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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Feb 27, 2021 20:12:27 GMT 1
Has to go his tactics will get us relegated. i think the truth his its the players and w hile carloshas made mistakes he certainly isnt to blame for the goals conceded today and we still have plenty to play for and noone else would make a difference. lets just see what happens but i certainly dont think we are down but what will be will be dont panic its only a game! I'd say he is to blame, not only today but on regular occasions. Its his tactics that have our fullbacks right up the pitch leaving us exposed at the back. He said in his presser after the game today that he brought REG in at right back to make us more solid defensively and then completely abandoned that at half time when we were only one goal down and having played well for most of the fist half. It was right to bring Rowe on for his attacking ability but not at the expense of leaving us wide open at the back. He could have switched to a back three, but didn't. I think he's looking more clueless by the game with his tactics.
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Post by willo on Feb 27, 2021 20:15:00 GMT 1
Carlos is responsible for the first team, training, team selection & tactics, not difficult understand, he needs to go & quick, it's not working - UTT. Tactic she. Have nothing to do with players not. Doing there jobs you can lead a horse to water but cannot make it drink it I understand your point but believe me it goes a lot deeper than tactics but don't worry it ain't over by a long way You say that positive but we are in a deep slump, a defeat on Tuesday and rightly or wrongly, I think the coach will be relieved of his duties. It may not be “over by a long way” but we are losing virtually every game and running out of games. Relegation to League 1, when avoidable, will really upset a lot of people and they WILL vote with their wallets next season because that is the one way they can get across how they feel. Some, bizarrely, seem content for it to happen and that we will simply rebuild for a return and it’s not that easy as a fair few clubs have found out.
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Post by JonsonClarkParis on Feb 27, 2021 20:15:16 GMT 1
Sack him now just for survival. Feel for him.
Best thing Carlos can do is walk away whilst he still can
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Post by specialun on Feb 27, 2021 20:20:31 GMT 1
i think the truth his its the players and w hile carloshas made mistakes he certainly isnt to blame for the goals conceded today and we still have plenty to play for and noone else would make a difference. lets just see what happens but i certainly dont think we are down but what will be will be dont panic its only a game! I'd say he is to blame, not only today but on regular occasions. Its his tactics that have our fullbacks right up the pitch leaving us exposed at the back. He said in his presser after the game today that he brought REG in at right back to make us more solid defensively and then completely abandoned that at half time when we were only one goal down and having played well for most of the fist half. It was right to bring Rowe on for his attacking ability but not at the expense of leaving us wide open at the back. He could have switched to a back three, but didn't. I think he's looking more clueless by the game with his tactics. Think you’re being generous at tactics Sept / Oct we had a clear shape, aim to press and attack - since then I’ve no idea I haven’t got a clue what shape we’re playing, he tinkers far too much, players look confused. If Hogg isn’t starting we’ve lost the game (6 defeats in 7 he’s missed) He made a change to keep tighter then gave up on it 45 later The system vs Wycombe was beyond laughable We certainly don’t press like we did now But ultimately we can’t defend, we have conceded 26 in 12 away games - and he hasn’t addressed it. That’s basic
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Post by kennyk2 on Feb 27, 2021 20:22:52 GMT 1
That's quite interesting... still little movement on the poll - 69% want him to stay.
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Post by huddersfc on Feb 27, 2021 20:36:14 GMT 1
I am still not 100% either way tbh, but im leaning more towards sacking him. That is by no means taking away from the utter shit show that Phil has given him. He just cant seem to get any fight out of the players and going into the last part of a relegation battle you need someone to organise the players, you need someone who realises that their way of doing things doesnt work with the injuries we have and the quality of player we have. We play Derby midweek in a big relegation 6 pointer and we turn in that level of performance. Today we go 1-0 down and completely fold. That isnt the trademark of a team who is up for the fight. I really dont like mentioning the Cowleys and I was never their biggest fan, but in recent games like Derby and today, we would have realised the situation we were in, conceding goals for fun, desperate for points, and we would have probably ground out at least 1 result.
If I was CC I would probably walk out to save my reputation. At the moment he would probably walk away looking in a good light to any potential employers in the future, but if he takes us down, he will struggle big time. His tactics wont cut it in League 1, and you dread to think the level of player available to him if we got relegated. The team is League 1 standard now.
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Post by araucaria on Feb 27, 2021 20:40:44 GMT 1
I am still not 100% either way tbh, but im leaning more towards sacking him. That is by no means taking away from the utter shit show that Phil has given him. He just cant seem to get any fight out of the players and going into the last part of a relegation battle you need someone to organise the players, you need someone who realises that their way of doing things doesnt work with the injuries we have and the quality of player we have. We play Derby midweek in a big relegation 6 pointer and we turn in that level of performance. Today we go 1-0 down and completely fold. That isnt the trademark of a team who is up for the fight. I really dont like mentioning the Cowleys and I was never their biggest fan, but in recent games like Derby and today, we would have realised the situation we were in, conceding goals for fun, desperate for points, and we would have probably ground out at least 1 result. If I was CC I would probably walk out to save my reputation. At the moment he would probably walk away looking in a good light to any potential employers in the future, but if he takes us down, he will struggle big time. His tactics wont cut it in League 1, and you dread to think the level of player available to him if we got relegated. The team is League 1 standard now. Derby and Swansea away last season were at pretty much the same stage and we did grind out a point at Derby and equalised late on at Swansea only to concede almost immediately.
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Post by goodbet on Feb 27, 2021 20:53:38 GMT 1
If he stays i don't think that he is the man to get us out of league one.
Warnock got us out of that league by selling our better players and replacing them with power and strength. We would need a big budget to get players that can play their way through the strong arm tactics they will encounter there.
We have struggled with the more robust teams even when we were winning games this season. For me if we do go down we must replace him.
What we do between now and the end of the season is possibly already too late.
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Feb 27, 2021 20:58:52 GMT 1
That's quite interesting... still little movement on the poll - 69% want him to stay. Run it again from scratch and I bet you see a different percentage. It might still be in his favour but not so heavily.
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Post by philatrickstarbuck on Feb 27, 2021 21:06:00 GMT 1
Just changed my mind....but sacking CC will not change anything. PH has made a rod for his own back if he does get rid. How many millions for managers? that could have been invested on the team. The mind fecking boggles...🤯
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Post by boooothy on Feb 27, 2021 21:06:36 GMT 1
We’ve supposedly been recruiting players to match system/coach. We can’t sack Carlos without scrapping the whole new approach we were adamant less than a year ago was the only way forward.
A new coach would reset Phil’s 3/4/5 transfer windows that we need.
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Post by Ross83 on Feb 27, 2021 21:10:24 GMT 1
In.
Only because it would be Schofield, some wildcard from non league or someone decent's assistant.
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Post by ambryboy on Feb 27, 2021 21:12:31 GMT 1
That's quite interesting... still little movement on the poll - 69% want him to stay. It's called apathy, Kenny.
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Feb 27, 2021 21:14:08 GMT 1
I'm sure most of us want a change in ownership but that is highly unlikely and certainly not going to make a difference on the pitch in the next 10 games. We need to stay up. Those who think that we would be challenging in league one clearly haven't been paying attention to the standard of the recruitment in the last 3 years. Would you trust this lot not to sell the quality we have and replace with freebies? We need to stay up, somehow.
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Post by brighousebandbred on Feb 27, 2021 21:14:14 GMT 1
We’ve supposedly been recruiting players to match system/coach. We can’t sack Carlos without scrapping the whole new approach we were adamant less than a year ago was the only way forward. A new coach would reset Phil’s 3/4/5 transfer windows that we need. Feel sorry for cc. But bullshit we’ve been recruiting for cc system. We’ve been recruiting on the back foot missing most first targets resulting in panic buys. Look at the state of our striker situation .
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Post by waggers on Feb 27, 2021 21:16:20 GMT 1
CC does not have the players to play the way he wants to play, and he doesn't know any other way of playing. He can't stop this slide, only a small number of managers could and the ones that could cost too much and/or wouldn't touch us with a bargepole.
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Post by Ox Terrier on Feb 27, 2021 21:25:54 GMT 1
That's quite interesting... still little movement on the poll - 69% want him to stay. Reset the poll and let’s see what the results say.
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Post by philatrickstarbuck on Feb 27, 2021 21:31:37 GMT 1
Reckon PH should take DH to no win no fee claims court. He has surely been had. Sure he knows the right peeps in his line of business...
& i've had 15 glasses of Tiger from my blade machine. Ignore me my fellow Town supporters. I do apologise.
UTT 🔵⚪🔵
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Post by Stewpot on Feb 27, 2021 21:31:40 GMT 1
You'd need an extra strength defibrillator to put some life back into some of those signings we've made this season. CC didn't buy that crock of shite.
Almost qualifies as a miracle worker that we aren't already 10 points adrift. I'm not joking.
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Feb 27, 2021 21:42:19 GMT 1
You'd need an extra strength defibrillator to put some life back into some of those signings we've made this season. CC didn't buy that crock of shite.Almost qualifies as a miracle worker that we aren't already 10 points adrift. I'm not joking. I'm sure your right, but he must have know he wouldn't be in charge of transfers when he signed his contract, so he still has to take a lot of the blame.
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Post by philatrickstarbuck on Feb 27, 2021 21:47:00 GMT 1
How long had CC been with us when he got his new contract & how long was it for for?
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Post by philatrickstarbuck on Feb 27, 2021 21:49:55 GMT 1
6 months? & an extra two years?
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Post by philatrickstarbuck on Feb 27, 2021 21:51:09 GMT 1
For him & all his staff?
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Post by kennyk2 on Feb 27, 2021 21:52:37 GMT 1
That's quite interesting... still little movement on the poll - 69% want him to stay. Run it again from scratch and I bet you see a different percentage. It might still be in his favour but not so heavily. Ah! The old ploy... if you don't get the result you wanted first time, do it again.
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Post by philatrickstarbuck on Feb 27, 2021 21:52:46 GMT 1
PH has really f##ked up on this one hasn't he 🙈
Hope I am wrong 🤔
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Feb 27, 2021 21:57:07 GMT 1
Run it again from scratch and I bet you see a different percentage. It might still be in his favour but not so heavily. Ah! The old ploy... if you don't get the result you wanted first time, do it again. Its nowt to do with getting the result I want but we've lost another three games since most folk posted their opinion on this.
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Post by kennyk2 on Feb 27, 2021 22:01:03 GMT 1
Ah! The old ploy... if you don't get the result you wanted first time, do it again. Its nowt to do with getting the result I want but we've lost another three games since most folk posted their opinion on this. To be honest, they have the option to just change it.
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Post by Tinpot on Feb 27, 2021 22:02:30 GMT 1
Questions: 1) Can CC keep us up? 2) Could anyone else keep us in the division? 3) Is CC the right man to lead a charge for promotion from Lg1?
Questions 1 & 2, probably not. Question 3, I ask because Grant McCann was the man in charge at Hull when they went through their freefall last year. He's still there & although their form has stuttered somewhat in Feb they're still serious candidates to bounce back first time.
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Feb 27, 2021 22:07:40 GMT 1
Its nowt to do with getting the result I want but we've lost another three games since most folk posted their opinion on this. To be honest, they have the option to just change it. Well yes they do but how many have bothered to do so? You were saying that 69% were still in favour of him staying. I'm suggesting, without any evidence, that the majority who might have changed their mind, probably haven't amended their poll choice.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Feb 27, 2021 22:08:40 GMT 1
I can't say I'm for a revolving door on managers, so I'm not sure what sacking him would achieve, basically from here on in it's the run in to the end of the season, a crucial critical time. As someone pointed out it would only be Schofield until the end of the season or the appointment process would take too long to make any significant difference.
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