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Post by terriers321 on Feb 27, 2021 22:11:19 GMT 1
Questions: 1) Can CC keep us up? 2) Could anyone else keep us in the division? 3) Is CC the right man to lead a charge for promotion from Lg1? Questions 1 & 2, probably not. Question 3, I ask because Grant McCann was the man in charge at Hull when they went through their freefall last year. He's still there & although their form has stuttered somewhat in Feb they're still serious candidates to bounce back first time. I'm sticking with Corberan. I had us down as dead certs for relegation at the start of the season and was pretty amazed at some of the performances he was getting out of them at the start. I dont see who we could realistically get to change the fortunes of this bag of shit squad around in such a short space of time.
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Post by Waterloo Terrier on Feb 27, 2021 22:12:04 GMT 1
I think it’s gone too far to be salvageable now. But what is staggering to me is the club aren’t offering him any real support. Derby have got McClaren supporting Rooney, Corberan has Leigh Bromby, who has no real experience at first team level. Bloke has no-one to turn too, why not get someone to help him sort out the defence like Graham Jones at Newcastle.
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Post by ambryboy on Feb 27, 2021 22:13:00 GMT 1
Run it again from scratch and I bet you see a different percentage. It might still be in his favour but not so heavily. Ah! The old ploy... if you don't get the result you wanted first time, do it again. As advocated by wee nippy as you affectionately call her.
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Post by kennyk2 on Feb 27, 2021 22:14:44 GMT 1
Ah! The old ploy... if you don't get the result you wanted first time, do it again. As advocated by wee nippy as you affectionately call her. I was going to include her as an example, but I didn't think that many would know who Wee Nippy Sweetie was.
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Feb 27, 2021 22:18:42 GMT 1
As advocated by wee nippy as you affectionately call her. I was going to include her as an example, but I didn't think that many would know who Wee Nippy Sweetie was. As a fellow resident of Jockland, I fucking do! Pardon me for swearing but in her case anything should go.
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Post by Stewpot on Feb 27, 2021 22:19:10 GMT 1
You'd need an extra strength defibrillator to put some life back into some of those signings we've made this season. CC didn't buy that crock of shite.Almost qualifies as a miracle worker that we aren't already 10 points adrift. I'm not joking. I'm sure your right, but he must have know he wouldn't be in charge of transfers when he signed his contract, so he still has to take a lot of the blame. I'm sure that is so, but if those names we desperately ended up signing were put on a fag packet as indicative of the types we were planning to bring in and presented to CC during the interview, he'd have run all the way back to the sanctuary of Elland Road in quick time. I think so anyway!
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Feb 27, 2021 22:20:50 GMT 1
I'm sure your right, but he must have know he wouldn't be in charge of transfers when he signed his contract, so he still has to take a lot of the blame. I'm sure that is so, but if those names we desperately ended up signing were put on a fag packet as indicative of the types we were planning to bring in and presented to CC during the interview, he'd have run all the way back to the sanctuary of Elland Road in quick time. I think so anyway! I'm sure you're right again. Its a shit show all round.
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Post by ambryboy on Feb 27, 2021 22:21:53 GMT 1
As advocated by wee nippy as you affectionately call her. I was going to include her as an example, but I didn't think that many would know who Wee Nippy Sweetie was. We Sassenachs are loving the current tale of machiavellian intrigue amongst the higher echelons of the SNP.
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Post by kennyk2 on Feb 27, 2021 22:25:34 GMT 1
I was going to include her as an example, but I didn't think that many would know who Wee Nippy Sweetie was. We Sassenachs are loving the current tale of machiavellian intrigue amongst the higher echelons of the SNP. Oh don't worry. We are lapping it up, up here. I've got friends who took a day off work yesterday just to watch it live.
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Post by Towner47 on Feb 27, 2021 22:30:08 GMT 1
He can definitely go for me .Problem would be who to replace him Anyway that's then end of my season card renewal. toys out of pram!
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Post by Towner47 on Feb 27, 2021 22:30:38 GMT 1
My money my choice after 50 years
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2021 23:17:59 GMT 1
We’re literally the laughing stock of the league, every team says worst side they’ve played against this season, skint potless chairman, manager sent to the cleaners, bunch of conmen execs and one of the thickest directors of football in charge of transfers I’ve ever heard speak about the game. If we stay up which we probably won’t it shouldn’t be a celebration.
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Post by tvor on Feb 27, 2021 23:30:09 GMT 1
Questions: 1) Can CC keep us up? 2) Could anyone else keep us in the division? 3) Is CC the right man to lead a charge for promotion from Lg1? Questions 1 & 2, probably not. Question 3, I ask because Grant McCann was the man in charge at Hull when they went through their freefall last year. He's still there & although their form has stuttered somewhat in Feb they're still serious candidates to bounce back first time. Think the answers to 1 and 2 depend on which players are available. We look thin at the moment but that’s down to injuries. That doesn’t mean I think that we are necessarily top 6 material but we’ll lose some decent players if we’re relegated. If that does happen it’ll be a slog to get back for whoever is in charge. I’m praying it doesn’t.
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Post by Armchair Pundit on Feb 28, 2021 0:06:22 GMT 1
At the moment I’m saying “in” purely because I cannot see us getting any better.
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Post by Dan on Feb 28, 2021 1:41:42 GMT 1
In an ideal world I would like to see Carlos managing Town next season, once we've cleared out the dead wood in the summer, and have a go with a largely new squad.
However, relegation would be a disaster and if we lose on Tuesday we will be dangerously flirting with that. Win on Tuesday and we can be 10 points clear, but if we lose, I think Phil would and should consider pulling the trigger and bringing a fire fighter in.
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Post by Stavros on Feb 28, 2021 2:21:41 GMT 1
In. Only because it would be Schofield, some wildcard from non league or someone decent's assistant. Cos 'someone decents assistant' is bad yeah?......
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Post by FloridaTerrier on Feb 28, 2021 3:07:06 GMT 1
We all looked at our bare thin squad in pre season and thought we would be dead certs for relegation. We failed to prepare for this season, knowing the season was going to be more intense, back to back games in a shorter period of time. Yet, we thinned the squad, we didn't replace our better players. Ultimately, were paying the price. Signed players on the cheap, players on the decline, and gave the head coach nothing to swing with. It's largely disappointing knowing CC doesn't have a fully fit squad to chose from, I do believe we would be in a much better situation than we are in now.
First take, is the entire club needs an overhaul, and no time to do it. I am hoping that we can back CC and he see us safe. Remove: Marsh and Bromby, absolutely useless the pair of them, and about as much use as a split condom. Having an INVESTMENT IN THE SQUAD, and truly go for it.
Problem is, with the current regime, where does that investment come from? We part ways with CC, and replace him with who? How does the new manager fix our awful and below par squad?
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Post by KiwiPom on Feb 28, 2021 4:43:06 GMT 1
We cerainly need to be more defensive away from home - maybe play for a point or a lucky win. He doesn't seem to know how to change things defensively and yesterday he seemed to loose the plot after half time with the some of the changes seemingly making the squad weaker and less effective. Five at the back and four in midfield with the full backs playing deeper perhaps? Doubt he'd be able to organise that sort of system though.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2021 5:04:30 GMT 1
My money my choice after 50 years Indeed it is and after fifty years you certainly aren't a bit part supporter so my comment I withdraw.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2021 5:09:45 GMT 1
We’re literally the laughing stock of the league, every team says worst side they’ve played against this season, skint potless chairman, manager sent to the cleaners, bunch of conmen execs and one of the thickest directors of football in charge of transfers I’ve ever heard speak about the game. If we stay up which we probably won’t it shouldn’t be a celebration. Once again what garbage you spout what would be a celebration is you talking sense
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2021 5:14:02 GMT 1
We all looked at our bare thin squad in pre season and thought we would be dead certs for relegation. We failed to prepare for this season, knowing the season was going to be more intense, back to back games in a shorter period of time. Yet, we thinned the squad, we didn't replace our better players. Ultimately, were paying the price. Signed players on the cheap, players on the decline, and gave the head coach nothing to swing with. It's largely disappointing knowing CC doesn't have a fully fit squad to chose from, I do believe we would be in a much better situation than we are in now. First take, is the entire club needs an overhaul, and no time to do it. I am hoping that we can back CC and he see us safe. Remove: Marsh and Bromby, absolutely useless the pair of them, and about as much use as a split condom. Having an INVESTMENT IN THE SQUAD, and truly go for it. Problem is, with the current regime, where does that investment come from? We part ways with CC, and replace him with who? How does the new manager fix our awful and below par squad? Changing the coach will solve nothing
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Post by 747max on Feb 28, 2021 5:14:58 GMT 1
Questions: 1) Can CC keep us up? 2) Could anyone else keep us in the division? 3) Is CC the right man to lead a charge for promotion from Lg1? Questions 1 & 2, probably not. Question 3, I ask because Grant McCann was the man in charge at Hull when they went through their freefall last year. He's still there & although their form has stuttered somewhat in Feb they're still serious candidates to bounce back first time. Think the answers to 1 and 2 depend on which players are available. We look thin at the moment but that’s down to injuries. That doesn’t mean I think that we are necessarily top 6 material but we’ll lose some decent players if we’re relegated. If that does happen it’ll be a slog to get back for whoever is in charge. I’m praying it doesn’t. We'll lose some decent players if we go down 😂😂😂
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Post by detox on Feb 28, 2021 9:02:53 GMT 1
We’re literally the laughing stock of the league, every team says worst side they’ve played against this season, skint potless chairman, manager sent to the cleaners, bunch of conmen execs and one of the thickest directors of football in charge of transfers I’ve ever heard speak about the game. If we stay up which we probably won’t it shouldn’t be a celebration. Simply not true..... Rooney admitted we bossed the 1st half at Derby..as have other managers, and we were ripping through PNE yesterday, at will..in that 1st half...had we taken our chances we'd have only lost 2-3... .. What we do have is that fatefull and disaterous mix of being weak at both ends of the pitch... It's errors that's killing us, we played ok yesterday but for that..and then when the games gone, heads go down and confidecne is once again shattered.. We're 100% getting relegated and it's a shame ..a real shame..and I'm going to point my finger at one man who is 100% responsible for this demise...Dean Hoyle. sorry, but he has to carry the can for this as he took the (deserved) praise for promotion...
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Feb 28, 2021 9:08:16 GMT 1
If we approached real life in the way that some supporters approach this sort of situation you'd end up broke, pissed off and you'd very quickly have no-one left to blame...
This board gets more tedious after every defeat.
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Post by isitjustme on Feb 28, 2021 9:13:19 GMT 1
Our player recruitment and our choice of manager are completely incompatible. Manager needs better players to play his prefered style, and we don't have the finances to support that style. One will have to change. And I suspect it's never going to be the financial support. Unless the manager adapts his style of play to suit the lack of quality within the squad, then the writing is on the wall unfortunately.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2021 9:17:03 GMT 1
If we approached real life in the way that some supporters approach this sort of situation you'd end up broke, pissed off and you'd very quickly have no-one left to blame... This board gets more tedious after every defeat. There isn’t a more dull “debate” than the “who shall we blame?” discussion. Madness how the same conversation is recycled after each defeat, and then not even given a thought when we win. It’s very clear to see what this board is turning into.
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Post by specialun on Feb 28, 2021 9:19:43 GMT 1
I read some comments suggesting Corberan may walk to avoid damaging his reputation
What reputation?!
Nobody had ever heard of him 12 months ago
What is there to protect?
Reputation as a youth coach? Perhaps. But he won’t play any of the outfield young players. When he was forced to with Rowe, he did well - dropped 2 games later
Perhaps it’s the 8 games he managed at Doxa in Cyprus when he won 1 out of 8?
Or the 15 he lasted whilst managing Ermis in Cyprus - he won 6 there
His record here P35 W10 D6 L19 is the worst record of any manager we’ve had in the Championship in over 30 years aside from Siewert’s few games at start of last
His overall managerial record P58 W17 D10 L31 is dreadful
Our current run won’t affect his ability to hold Bielsa’s bags
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Post by Wagner Uber Alles on Feb 28, 2021 9:20:06 GMT 1
Think the answers to 1 and 2 depend on which players are available. We look thin at the moment but that’s down to injuries. That doesn’t mean I think that we are necessarily top 6 material but we’ll lose some decent players if we’re relegated. If that does happen it’ll be a slog to get back for whoever is in charge. I’m praying it doesn’t. We'll lose some decent players if we go down 😂😂😂 We still possess some very decent players. The problem is that we also have some deadwood as well as relying on inexperienced players. That, and playing the wrong system for some of those players. For example, if you’re a decent and very experienced defender who has always kicked the ball out of danger, and now to be expected to instead pass it around and build up from the back, it’s asking for trouble because it’s not ingrained and automatic in them. Same problem with asking a player to play out of their natural position, they may more mistakes and reaction time is slower because it’s not ingrained. Look what happened when CC played LoB at left back, it led directly to him conceding 3 goals in succession.
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Post by terriers2000 on Feb 28, 2021 9:39:26 GMT 1
The injury's we have Harry Toffolo (back) 5 weeks until he is back Jonathan Hogg (calf) back for QPR Carel Eiting (knee) late march or early april Rolando Aarons (hamstring) mid march Josh Koroma (hamstring) hopefully early march but back end of March Danny Grant (hamstring) should be training next week Danny Ward (calf) out of for season probably Christopher Schindler (knee) out of the season Jaden Brown (suspended)available for tuesday
When we get some of these players back like koroma hogg aarons we'll look better but if we do go down I know fans will blame carlos for his tactics and training ways but other than Schindler we should be okay when all these go back but need them back asap
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Post by Ox Terrier on Feb 28, 2021 10:00:49 GMT 1
Its nowt to do with getting the result I want but we've lost another three games since most folk posted their opinion on this. To be honest, they have the option to just change it. How do you change it? I’m on an iPhone and it’s not just a case of selecting the other option.
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