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Post by H7 on Aug 14, 2021 22:01:25 GMT 1
I get this viewpoint totally however we are playing Championship football, every game has high stakes, we cannot carry passengers and unfortunately he is simply not good enough. He doesn't need a break he needs to leave, find his level and go have a decent career wherever that is. Football is a ruthless industry and especially for a goalkeeper there is nowhere to hide and he's just not up to it at this level. He's still very young for a goalkeeper, but I agree it maybe looks like his distribution and general composure will not be good enough at this level. But, he is one of only 3 keepers we have, and was thrown in the team today, as he was last season when he needed games in the reserve team or on loan. You think he shouldn't be starting, fine, who else would've started today then?What I don't like, ppl are holding him personally responsible for the failure of the club to bring in an adequate goalkeeper. He's a young lad, possibly out of his depth, he's one of our own and you have scum in the home end booing him at the start of the second half.. Correct I don't think he should start for us but to answer your question no one else could have possibly started today and that is a failing of the club not to bring in 2 championship competent goalkeepers and the main reason for the torrid time Ryan is having.
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Post by Dillinger on Aug 14, 2021 22:15:01 GMT 1
He's still very young for a goalkeeper, but I agree it maybe looks like his distribution and general composure will not be good enough at this level. But, he is one of only 3 keepers we have, and was thrown in the team today, as he was last season when he needed games in the reserve team or on loan. You think he shouldn't be starting, fine, who else would've started today then?What I don't like, ppl are holding him personally responsible for the failure of the club to bring in an adequate goalkeeper. He's a young lad, possibly out of his depth, he's one of our own and you have scum in the home end booing him at the start of the second half.. Correct I don't think he should start for us but to answer your question no one else could have possibly started today and that is a failing of the club not to bring in 2 championship competent goalkeepers and the main reason for the torrid time Ryan is having. Agreed. And yet here we are, with a whole thread dedicated to piling in on Ryan Schofield..
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Aug 14, 2021 22:17:17 GMT 1
I don't care who we put in goal on Tuesday but it can't be Ryan, the club are doing him no favours, it's getting like bullying. The players have had a long time with no fans in but, partly due to the dross we have been served up over the last few years, things are going to get very toxic, very quickly.
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Post by morleyterrier on Aug 14, 2021 22:22:31 GMT 1
Let’s all blame Schofield when the real villain is the twat that has us having to behave like a league 1 club financially.
How the hell can we compete at this level with one hand tied behind our back because of that fucking parasite.
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Post by SaudiTerrier on Aug 14, 2021 22:22:38 GMT 1
He, like a few other players, coaches, and members of then senior management team, needs to fuck off.
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Aug 14, 2021 22:34:54 GMT 1
I don't care who we put in goal on Tuesday but it can't be Ryan, the club are doing him no favours, it's getting like bullying. The players have had a long time with no fans in but, partly due to the dross we have been served up over the last few years, things are going to get very toxic, very quickly. Agree. No decent minded person would blame the lad. Having seen how he struggled for the majority of last season it’s shameful that the club are putting him through it again, even more so in front of fans.
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Post by boooothy on Aug 14, 2021 22:51:30 GMT 1
Let’s see if the MK Dons reserve keeper is any good before we go into total meltdown. Today might turn out to be a long term blessing
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Post by tonytiler on Aug 14, 2021 23:43:43 GMT 1
Schofield has no confidence so the defenders in front of him are forever in a panic and so it festers right through the team.However he is a young lad who is not ready for the kind of pressure that playing in this division creates so if he isnt or cant be taken out of the firing line then,we are up the shit creek without a paddle. But he is not the only one who isnt up to scratch,Turton,Holmes,Ward and maybe Sarr are just not up to it so try some others ffs.
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Post by Convictatthemac on Aug 15, 2021 5:24:49 GMT 1
Correct I don't think he should start for us but to answer your question no one else could have possibly started today and that is a failing of the club not to bring in 2 championship competent goalkeepers and the main reason for the torrid time Ryan is having. Agreed. And yet here we are, with a whole thread dedicated to piling in on Ryan Schofield.. The only reason the fans are piling in on Ryan is because the club don’t see he’s not up to it. It wouldn’t matter if it was Ryan, a bloke randomly picked off the street or Leno at Arsenal. If you aren’t performing then the fans look directly at you, it doesn’t just happen at Huddersfield, it happens at every club around the world. The reality is the club are totally irresponsible for putting Ryan in this position. If Nichols were to pick up a long term injury the day after the window closes, then we would be in a disastrous position of relying on Ryan until the January window. If you aren’t good enough to play regularly, then you aren’t good enough to be a number 2 keeper. You might think it’s unfair, you might think people are scum, but the reality is Ryan chose to be a professional footballer, it comes with a lot of good and a lot of bad. If people keep the criticism to his actual game and don’t get personal, I don’t have an issue.
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Post by positive plus + pompous on Aug 15, 2021 6:29:22 GMT 1
He's still very young for a goalkeeper, but I agree it maybe looks like his distribution and general composure will not be good enough at this level. But, he is one of only 3 keepers we have, and was thrown in the team today, as he was last season when he needed games in the reserve team or on loan. You think he shouldn't be starting, fine, who else would've started today then?What I don't like, ppl are holding him personally responsible for the failure of the club to bring in an adequate goalkeeper. He's a young lad, possibly out of his depth, he's one of our own and you have scum in the home end booing him at the start of the second half.. Correct I don't think he should start for us but to answer your question no one else could have possibly started today and that is a failing of the club not to bring in 2 championship competent goalkeepers and the main reason for the torrid time Ryan is having. They failed twice last year to bring in two keepers better than schofield too (pereira and Leutwiler), how is that actually possible? The recruitment team need sacking immediately.
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Post by Convictatthemac on Aug 15, 2021 8:05:09 GMT 1
Correct I don't think he should start for us but to answer your question no one else could have possibly started today and that is a failing of the club not to bring in 2 championship competent goalkeepers and the main reason for the torrid time Ryan is having. They failed twice last year to bring in two keepers better than schofield too (pereira and Leutwiler), how is that actually possible? The recruitment team need sacking immediately. I feel the same, but I also feel that the issues run deeper than just the recruiting team.
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Post by Dillinger on Aug 15, 2021 8:24:09 GMT 1
Agreed. And yet here we are, with a whole thread dedicated to piling in on Ryan Schofield.. The only reason the fans are piling in on Ryan is because the club don’t see he’s not up to it. It wouldn’t matter if it was Ryan, a bloke randomly picked off the street or Leno at Arsenal. If you aren’t performing then the fans look directly at you, it doesn’t just happen at Huddersfield, it happens at every club around the world. The reality is the club are totally irresponsible for putting Ryan in this position. If Nichols were to pick up a long term injury the day after the window closes, then we would be in a disastrous position of relying on Ryan until the January window. If you aren’t good enough to play regularly, then you aren’t good enough to be a number 2 keeper. You might think it’s unfair, you might think people are scum, but the reality is Ryan chose to be a professional footballer, it comes with a lot of good and a lot of bad. If people keep the criticism to his actual game and don’t get personal, I don’t have an issue. The critism I don't mind, every fan is entitled to thier view. It's the ridicule, and the making it personal I have an issue with.
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Post by garyroberts'leftfoot on Aug 15, 2021 9:10:39 GMT 1
Let’s see if the MK Dons reserve keeper is any good before we go into total meltdown. Today might turn out to be a long term blessing To be fair, he wasn't their reserve keeper. He was interviewed in the programme and said that when he wouldn’t sign a new contract their manager decided to play the keeper who would be their first choice this season.
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Post by garyroberts'leftfoot on Aug 15, 2021 9:17:02 GMT 1
Mitrovic currently has 54% for skysports goal of the day. Embarrassing.
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Post by Jello Biafra on Aug 15, 2021 10:04:59 GMT 1
Unfortunately, it doesn’t look like it’s merely a confidence issue with Schofield. The lad has fundamental flaws in his game that he shouldn’t have at this stage in his development. It’s looking more and more like he’s become a project for this Clem character and one that he’s now too committed to that he’s become blinded by. Schofield’s only strength appears to be shot stopping, and even then he doesn’t keep hold of the ball like he should. The areas that he’s lacking in: decision making, aerial prowess, decisiveness, speed off his line, dominance of his penalty area, distribution etc are all fundamental to modern goalkeeping and he’s weak at them all. I wouldn’t mind as much if he was doing what’s expected, but drops the odd bollock - but he just doesn’t do these things at all. The defence then has to work round all these failings, as well as do their own jobs, and then you end up with performances like yesterday. As things stand, and if he doesn’t get some proper coaching from someone significantly better than this Clem, Schofield is going to be a very lucky lad if he ever goes on to make a career out of professional football.
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Post by space hardware on Aug 15, 2021 10:08:18 GMT 1
Unfortunately, it doesn’t look like it’s merely a confidence issue with Schofield. The lad has fundamental flaws in his game that he shouldn’t have at this stage in his development. It’s looking more and more like he’s become a project for this Clem character and one that he’s now too committed to that he’s become blinded by. Schofield’s only strength appears to be shot stopping, and even then he doesn’t keep hold of the ball like he should. The areas that he’s lacking in: decision making, aerial prowess, decisiveness, speed off his line, dominance of his penalty area, distribution etc are all fundamental to modern goalkeeping and he’s weak at them all. I wouldn’t mind as much if he was doing what’s expected, but drops the odd bollock - but he just doesn’t do these things at all. The defence then has to work round all these failings, as well as do their own jobs, and then you end up with performances like yesterday. As things stand, and if he doesn’t get some proper coaching from someone significantly better than this Clem, Schofield is going to be a very lucky lad if he ever goes on to make a career out of professional football. Agree with all that. On the "shot stopping" thing, isn't that the bare minimum that a goalkeeper should excel at? It's kind of their job to stop shots, surely.
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Post by willo on Aug 15, 2021 10:56:46 GMT 1
How much longer does Nicholls have to self isolate for? Surely the 10 days is up come Tuesday unless it’s a longer isolation period for folk in Huddersfield. Playing Schofield again will be plain cruel, like throwing slaves in with the lions.
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Post by ritchie on Aug 15, 2021 12:08:11 GMT 1
Town fans jeering him and doing "oooooh" when he was on the ball are absolute cretins. I was more annoyed at our fans than the result.
The lad shouldnt be playing, its not his fault he is, and his confidence is shot. Get another keeper in Hoyle
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Aug 15, 2021 12:11:29 GMT 1
His calamitous errors aside he did actually make one or two decent saves, he does appear to be a decent shot stopper at times but every other part of his game is lacking.
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Post by Porrohman on Aug 15, 2021 12:12:44 GMT 1
Unfortunately I’d say he was at fault for the 4th goal - again being slow to react and not coming off his line quicker It was either stay on your line or commit early and get rid. He did neither and ended up making it a fairly simple dink for Cavaleiro When Caveleiro was running towards goal for the 5th I said to the lad that sits next to me "look how much of the far side of the goal he's showing him" and lo and behold he passes it straight into the goal there
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Aug 15, 2021 12:13:55 GMT 1
Mitrovic currently has 54% for skysports goal of the day. Embarrassing. I think it's the fact that he had lost his footing and still managed to score on the way down, luck like that is something we could do with at Town.
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Aug 15, 2021 13:58:11 GMT 1
His calamitous errors aside he did actually make one or two decent saves, he does appear to be a decent shot stopper at times but every other part of his game is lacking. Problem there is that a big majority of shots saved are preventable should he ever consider venturing off his line.
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Post by Torquayterrier on Aug 15, 2021 14:51:09 GMT 1
As others have said if you want him sent away to another club to get regular games then any lg1 or 2 coach looking at that from yesterday are not going to want him in their first 11. I fear the only option is getting someone else in as 2nd choice behind Nicholls or someone better than him to go straight in at no1 either way Schofield drops to no3 or lower in order and just gets to work out of the spotlight of competitive games. If he cant improve in development games then get rid. Keeper too important a position to be gifting teams a 2 goal start in 2nd tier football.
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Post by WackyWorld on Aug 15, 2021 15:07:14 GMT 1
One thing i will say about ryan is that i thought he was an amazing keeper for his age a couple of seasons ago. Was a great shot stopper and kept us in it. So you wonder what has happened in the last 2/3 Years? Is it his confidence? or does he just need to move to s league 1/2 side?
He will have to play again on Tuesday so hopefully for his sake, he has one last decent performance
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Post by theravymoomin on Aug 15, 2021 18:59:20 GMT 1
Last season I felt quite sorry for him and thought he did well in quite a lot of games, was hoping he was going to do something over the summer to improve, ( bit like John stead in 2003) but obviously improve different attributes. These last 2 games I am lost for words, the goals yesterday were shocking, he looks so helpless, weather he’s a nice guy or not, he needs to be dropped when nicholls is back, we need another keeper aswell, as I don’t think Nichols is championship quality
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Post by shawsie on Aug 15, 2021 19:13:21 GMT 1
One thing i will say about ryan is that i thought he was an amazing keeper for his age a couple of seasons ago. Was a great shot stopper and kept us in it. So you wonder what has happened in the last 2/3 Years? Is it his confidence? or does he just need to move to s league 1/2 side? He will have to play again on Tuesday so hopefully for his sake, he has one last decent performance He is a good shot stopper....but in the head coach's deluded philosophy of play everything out from the back he like most of his defenders has a fundamental flaw......he cant bloody do it consistently! Nobody wants to watch hoof it everywhere but unless you have players comfortable with their ball at feet or strong enough mentally to admit a failing and get it out of the danger area when needed then you are doomed to fail. Having miscontrolled it just kick the bugger out of play and re-set. Poor ball back from thomas yes - but dont compound the initial error! Just seen the goals on sky......christ some of the defending was beneath pathetic. The lad needs to rebuild his confidence with a loan for me cos there is talent there.......but he wont do it when asked to do things he simply isnt able to do well enough at this level yet.
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Post by keithAM11532 on Aug 15, 2021 20:11:20 GMT 1
He ended up on his arse inside his own net yet again. In my life I have never seen any keeper (for any team) who does that so often. We should have had a season competition to see how many times he does that so at least there is something to look forward to.
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Post by huddersfc on Aug 15, 2021 20:21:47 GMT 1
He ended up on his arse inside his own net yet again. In my life I have never seen any keeper (for any team) who does that so often. We should have had a season competition to see how many times he does that so at least there is something to look forward to. You could almost make a game of it for each game he plays, never mind over a season. My game of choice over the last 2 seasons has been to guess the time of the first shot on target.
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Post by birchencliffe on Aug 15, 2021 20:32:48 GMT 1
As a keeper Ryan is shite its not his fault now paying customers are in the ground there is no hiding place. It is not his fault if i could steal a living earning top dollar i would and when i lived in London i did . Fair play to the lad... take the boos and jeers thats fucking life ..he aint the only one at Town stealing a living it starts at the top and trickles down.
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Post by andyeastleake on Aug 15, 2021 20:53:21 GMT 1
Last season I felt quite sorry for him and thought he did well in quite a lot of games, was hoping he was going to do something over the summer to improve, ( bit like John stead in 2003) but obviously improve different attributes. These last 2 games I am lost for words, the goals yesterday were shocking, he looks so helpless, weather he’s a nice guy or not, he needs to be dropped when nicholls is back, we need another keeper aswell, as I don’t think Nichols is championship quality Comment in bold absolutely (I said very similar on page 2 of this thread - even so far as the JS reference). I'm very he's not come back physically stronger because LBF if he was stronger he'd be able to command his box better and that would increase his confidence. 10 Kg (preferably muscle but TBH fat wouldn't be that bad) would make a big difference IMHO. He is a good shot stopper, but clearly that's not enough, but it's enough to imply he shouldn't be written off just yet. I've not seen enough of Nicholl's yet to be confident of an opinion but he was impressive at Wednesday, looked confident and did all that was asked of him. If we need another keeper it's because it simply isn't fair on RS to play him at the moment, his confidence is shot. PS I hate the fact certain words produce emojis. I intended to say disappointed.
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