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Post by Terrier Ramone on Jun 9, 2021 8:56:16 GMT 1
It will be awful seeing him manage against us but he'll always be a hero for me, gave me the best season I've had supporting Town in 50 years
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2021 10:08:40 GMT 1
It will be awful seeing him manage against us but he'll always be a hero for me, gave me the best season I've had supporting Town in 50 years If it happens I welcome him back to English football and as for many will not forget the big contribution he made to this club despite the sad ending smashing bloke and true fans will always be grateful, |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2021 10:12:42 GMT 1
It will be awful seeing him manage against us but he'll always be a hero for me, gave me the best season I've had supporting Town in 50 years If it happens I welcome him back to English football and as for many will not forget the big contribution he made to this club despite the sad ending smashing bloke and true fans will always be grateful, If the ground is able to be fully opened, I imagine there will be a significant number of people who choose to pay on the day just to be able to give the guy a proper send off. |
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Post by tepidterrier on Jun 9, 2021 10:24:11 GMT 1
The more comments I read from their fans the less I want him to take the job. The fans being 100% behind him and creating the atmosphere we did was such a big factor in the momentum that got us promoted. WBA fans are coming across as entitled and plain stupid.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Jun 9, 2021 10:31:34 GMT 1
town vs west Brom then first game plus picture the scene. Carlos waits over a year to meet the fans and we spend 90 mins declaring our love for Wagner Quite apt that I caught a bit of the Cloughie film the other night. The scene where Revie comes back into the stands when Brian is in the dugout. That was obviously a film script, but the similarities are there... |
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Jun 9, 2021 10:34:41 GMT 1
he's just another ex-manager. Once kick off comes he'll be the enemy.
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Jun 9, 2021 10:37:05 GMT 1
he's just another ex-manager. Once kick off comes he'll be the enemy. I just don't get the 1st bit of this thought process... & neither does your avatar by the look of him/her  |
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Post by dugnet on Jun 9, 2021 10:45:48 GMT 1
I find it peculiar that anyone would be overly negative towards DW. I am sure he would admit to some mistakes but the collective was responsible for the failure to use the Premier League opportunity to make the club better overall.
DW embedded himself in the club and created an atmosphere that was special. His place in our history should be assured for years to come.
The problem that we all have, whether we choose to admit it or not, because things have become a struggle it is painful to see someone who was so successful for us with another team. If we were doing better this wouldn't be an issue, but as we aren't and if he is successful, (and I wish him all the best) the rancour with how things have gone at Town will continue.
We are reliant on PH and team turning things round. It is also true that what DW does in the future doesn't really impact us. That said there is a potential horrible irony that the fixture list could cruelly mean that WBA could relegate Town, I know this is doom laden but how often does sport throw up these type of circumstances? Were that to happen it would really be the final nail in the coffin for the way the club has been run since Stamford Bridge.
Perhaps the positive spin is to use the potential rivalry with DW as something to spur the club onto elevating itself out of the malaise it has got itself into.
Whatever happens I will be always grateful to DW (and CB) and wish him all the very best.
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Post by Baby-face Frankenstein on Jun 9, 2021 10:51:06 GMT 1
I wonder if West Brom's Players Union representative has got wind of Wagner's tough training regime yet? Hoping the West Brom players won't be doing cartwheels when they find out what they'll have to be doing pre-season!!
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Post by detox on Jun 9, 2021 11:12:45 GMT 1
I feel a bit snubbed tbh, if Wagner was wanting a job back in the UK..why hasn't he come to us ?..We've been jilted !
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Post by Baby-face Frankenstein on Jun 9, 2021 11:18:25 GMT 1
I find it peculiar that anyone would be overly negative towards DW. I am sure he would admit to some mistakes but the collective was responsible for the failure to use the Premier League opportunity to make the club better overall. DW embedded himself in the club and created an atmosphere that was special. His place in our history should be assured for years to come. The problem that we all have, whether we choose to admit it or not, because things have become a struggle it is painful to see someone who was so successful for us with another team. If we were doing better this wouldn't be an issue, but as we aren't and if he is successful, (and I wish him all the best) the rancour with how things have gone at Town will continue. We are reliant on PH and team turning things round. It is also true that what DW does in the future doesn't really impact us. That said there is a potential horrible irony that the fixture list could cruelly mean that WBA could relegate Town, I know this is doom laden but how often does sport throw up these type of circumstances? Were that to happen it would really be the final nail in the coffin for the way the club has been run since Stamford Bridge. Perhaps the positive spin is to use the potential rivalry with DW as something to spur the club onto elevating itself out of the malaise it has got itself into. Whatever happens I will be always grateful to DW (and CB) and wish him all the very best. "That said there is a potential horrible irony that the fixture list could cruelly mean that WBA could relegate Town, I know this is doom laden but how often does sport throw up these type of circumstances? Were that to happen it would really be the final nail in the coffin for the way the club has been run since Stamford Bridge." Made me laugh, that. It would be even more horribly ironic if his West Brom side sent us down at the JSS in May 2022. But, you never know, maybe we'll see the other side of the irony coin and witness us putting a spoke in their promotion wheel. I can see it now: Championship Play-off Final 2022, Huddersfield Town v West Bromwich Albion, penalty shoot-out, Town leading 5-4 on penalties, up steps Christopher Schindler for West Brom to take their final penalty (Wagner has spoken to Olaf Rebbe at FC Nürnberg and secured a move to bring Schindler to West Brom in the January transfer window). Up steps Schindler...................and skies the ball over the stands, slipping and ending up on his arse in doing so. Now that would be the ultimate in horrible irony  |
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Post by dugnet on Jun 9, 2021 11:49:40 GMT 1
I find it peculiar that anyone would be overly negative towards DW. I am sure he would admit to some mistakes but the collective was responsible for the failure to use the Premier League opportunity to make the club better overall. DW embedded himself in the club and created an atmosphere that was special. His place in our history should be assured for years to come. The problem that we all have, whether we choose to admit it or not, because things have become a struggle it is painful to see someone who was so successful for us with another team. If we were doing better this wouldn't be an issue, but as we aren't and if he is successful, (and I wish him all the best) the rancour with how things have gone at Town will continue. We are reliant on PH and team turning things round. It is also true that what DW does in the future doesn't really impact us. That said there is a potential horrible irony that the fixture list could cruelly mean that WBA could relegate Town, I know this is doom laden but how often does sport throw up these type of circumstances? Were that to happen it would really be the final nail in the coffin for the way the club has been run since Stamford Bridge. Perhaps the positive spin is to use the potential rivalry with DW as something to spur the club onto elevating itself out of the malaise it has got itself into. Whatever happens I will be always grateful to DW (and CB) and wish him all the very best. "That said there is a potential horrible irony that the fixture list could cruelly mean that WBA could relegate Town, I know this is doom laden but how often does sport throw up these type of circumstances? Were that to happen it would really be the final nail in the coffin for the way the club has been run since Stamford Bridge." Made me laugh, that. It would be even more horribly ironic if his West Brom side sent us down at the JSS in May 2022. But, you never know, maybe we'll see the other side of the irony coin and witness us putting a spoke in their promotion wheel. I can see it now: Championship Play-off Final 2022, Huddersfield Town v West Bromwich Albion, penalty shoot-out, Town leading 5-4 on penalties, up steps Christopher Schindler for West Brom to take their final penalty (Wagner has spoken to Olaf Rebbe at FC Nürnberg and secured a move to bring Schindler to West Brom in the January transfer window). Up steps Schindler...................and skies the ball over the stands, slipping and ending up on his arse in doing so. Now that would be the ultimate in horrible irony You are right it could work both ways - or not at all (which I would settle for to be honest). Ideal scenario, DW does well and so do Town, that's the win-win. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2021 12:00:12 GMT 1
I wonder if West Brom's Players Union representative has got wind of Wagner's tough training regime yet? Hoping the West Brom players won't be doing cartwheels when they find out what they'll have to be doing pre-season!! This is what DW should be worried about. When he came to Town, there were no expectations and very few egos (once Vaughan had gone). We were a raggle-taggle bunch of misfits and outcasts - which played brilliantly into his hands. We were the underdogs. Now he's dealing with Premier League egos and players thinking they're too good to be playing Luton. Are they going to want to spend a week shitting in a carrier bag in the backwaters of Sweden? Will they accept being told they must double their training sessions if they want to be good enough? When you have a team of 'stars' it's hard justifying to people why your guys on £50k a week shouldn't be playing, but the ones on £5k a week should. It's a very, very different proposition to the one he last had in England. But one he has earned. |
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Post by Galpharmer on Jun 9, 2021 12:09:05 GMT 1
If it happens I welcome him back to English football and as for many will not forget the big contribution he made to this club despite the sad ending smashing bloke and true fans will always be grateful, If the ground is able to be fully opened, I imagine there will be a significant number of people who choose to pay on the day just to be able to give the guy a proper send off. Surely ‘true’ fans will have a season card? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2021 12:11:51 GMT 1
If the ground is able to be fully opened, I imagine there will be a significant number of people who choose to pay on the day just to be able to give the guy a proper send off. Surely ‘true’ fans will have a season card? You are only a true fan if you have both a season ticket AND didn't say anything bad about Phil's shirt. |
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Post by goodbet on Jun 9, 2021 12:25:02 GMT 1
Surely ‘true’ fans will have a season card? You are only a true fan if you have both a season ticket AND didn't say anything bad about Phil's shirt. So we don't have true fans then |
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Post by Baby-face Frankenstein on Jun 9, 2021 12:35:50 GMT 1
To go back to the original question, DW is certainly not going to be a Villain if it's WBA he's going to. So it's settled, he's a hero!
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Post by Porrohman on Jun 9, 2021 12:39:56 GMT 1
To go back to the original question, DW is certainly not going to be a Villain if it's WBA he's going to. So it's settled, he's a hero! He'd be a Villain if he went to WBA's neighours |
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Post by 28901 on Jun 9, 2021 13:18:31 GMT 1
I wonder if West Brom's Players Union representative has got wind of Wagner's tough training regime yet? Hoping the West Brom players won't be doing cartwheels when they find out what they'll have to be doing pre-season!! This is what DW should be worried about. When he came to Town, there were no expectations and very few egos (once Vaughan had gone). We were a raggle-taggle bunch of misfits and outcasts - which played brilliantly into his hands. We were the underdogs. Now he's dealing with Premier League egos and players thinking they're too good to be playing Luton. Are they going to want to spend a week shitting in a carrier bag in the backwaters of Sweden? Will they accept being told they must double their training sessions if they want to be good enough? When you have a team of 'stars' it's hard justifying to people why your guys on £50k a week shouldn't be playing, but the ones on £5k a week should. It's a very, very different proposition to the one he last had in England. But one he has earned. This is exactly as I see it. No one knew him and he didn't really know us. It won't be anything like the same there. Anyway who do those twats think they are? A decent side in the 70s, a yo yo cub for the last few years, but they were on their arse in division three with us in the late 80s, and since their one league champions trophy Town have been crowned three times. |
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Post by colnevalleyblue on Jun 9, 2021 13:18:55 GMT 1
Who do WBA fans want in?
Seen a few of their fans comments and unhappy about Wagner but if he can get Huddersfield Town promoted and keep us up, of course he can so it with them.
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Post by Torquayterrier on Jun 9, 2021 13:30:08 GMT 1
They seemed keen on Wilder but then the Chinese owner seems to have stepped in vetoing Wilder for some reason. That was how it was reported but don't know the truth of it. I don't know how good a fit WBA would be for Wagner tbh, he might have been better off at Wolves but that vacancy has gone now.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2021 13:39:57 GMT 1
They seemed keen on Wilder but then the Chinese owner seems to have stepped in vetoing Wilder for some reason. That was how it was reported but don't know the truth of it. I don't know how good a fit WBA would be for Wagner tbh, he might have been better off at Wolves but that vacancy has gone now. The reason is given amply by the interview the United owner gave after Wilder walked explaining the circumstances. Like Clough found out at Derby, no manager is bigger than the club (or the bloke who foots the bills) |
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Post by Mastercracker on Jun 9, 2021 13:43:10 GMT 1
This is what DW should be worried about. When he came to Town, there were no expectations and very few egos (once Vaughan had gone). We were a raggle-taggle bunch of misfits and outcasts - which played brilliantly into his hands. We were the underdogs. Now he's dealing with Premier League egos and players thinking they're too good to be playing Luton. Are they going to want to spend a week shitting in a carrier bag in the backwaters of Sweden? Will they accept being told they must double their training sessions if they want to be good enough? When you have a team of 'stars' it's hard justifying to people why your guys on £50k a week shouldn't be playing, but the ones on £5k a week should. It's a very, very different proposition to the one he last had in England. But one he has earned. This is exactly as I see it. No one knew him and he didn't really know us. It won't be anything like the same there. Anyway who do those twats think they are? A decent side in the 70s, a yo yo cub for the last few years, but they were on their arse in division three with us in the late 80s, and since their one league champions trophy Town have been crowned three times. All the midland clubs are as bad as each other for it. All much of a muchness (bar Villa) yet all think they are top flight dead certs. WBA are just another in the list of clubs with gates of circa 20-25k when in the top 2 divisions. You could probably stretch to about 25 other comparables. |
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Jun 9, 2021 14:06:05 GMT 1
he's just another ex-manager. Once kick off comes he'll be the enemy. I just don't get the 1st bit of this thought process... & neither does your avatar by the look of him/her it's not negative, I know what we achieved with him but that's history. I'm thinking of the here and now. |
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Jun 9, 2021 14:10:35 GMT 1
To go back to the original question, DW is certainly not going to be a Villain if it's WBA he's going to. So it's settled, he's a hero! He'd be a Villain if he went to WBA's neighours Technically, he'd be a Villan. |
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Post by ldotm on Jun 9, 2021 14:28:01 GMT 1
This whole obsession with the negative goal difference is pathetic. People have this notion that it was pure luck both WBA fans and even some of our own.
Yes we got hammered a few times but we were in the playoffs on merit and there were even points Brighton and Toon fans were worried about us catching them. Our game management generally was second to none, when we went ahead I felt confident we would go on to win, we didn’t score loads but we certainly wasn’t boring to watch.
Then he kept us up in our first year with a poor team in comparison to others and yes the wheels completely fell off 2nd year, down to numerous reasons but hasn’t Wilder done the exact same with a team that had a very good season and it’s not like they’ve spent nothing..
The 2nd season is always tough for newly promoted teams, the buzz isnt around as much, players get complacent and teams get found out and without the quality the other teams have, you start to get into a losing streak and it’s hard to get out of in this league.
He’s then taken over a sinking ship at Schalke and from the outside looking in clearly had a bit of a mare but that happens, some of the best managers have had dismal spells.
Any Town fan that plays down what Wagner did here or doesn’t appreciate the complete transformation he brought in, is a fool and basically won’t ever be happy when it comes to Town and would rather pick out negatives than celebrate the positives.
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Post by tepidterrier on Jun 9, 2021 14:28:47 GMT 1
They seemed keen on Wilder but then the Chinese owner seems to have stepped in vetoing Wilder for some reason. That was how it was reported but don't know the truth of it. I don't know how good a fit WBA would be for Wagner tbh, he might have been better off at Wolves but that vacancy has gone now. Wilder refused to work with a DOF and insisted on full control over signings. Looking at the calibre of players they signed in isolation, and then looking at how bad last season's signings were, I don't blame them for passing on him. Wagner on the other hand I'm sure would appreciate actually having a DOF to work alongside! |
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Post by Porrohman on Jun 9, 2021 14:32:26 GMT 1
He'd be a Villain if he went to WBA's neighours Technically, he'd be a Villan. Curses ! Foiled again 😁 |
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Post by morleyterrier on Jun 9, 2021 14:50:38 GMT 1
BE good to see him back in the game again (interviews etc).
Not a Club I dislike either.
Good luck to him.
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Post by lochnessterrier on Jun 9, 2021 15:12:30 GMT 1
BE good to see him back in the game again (interviews etc). Not a Club I dislike either. Good luck to him. Agreed. It would be a very different matter if he was going to Birmingham or the Wendies! |
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