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Post by blanquiazules on May 19, 2021 12:12:53 GMT 1
Let’s hope the Bradford chairman isn’t doing an interview at the same time cos it won’t be on our RL frequency if he is.
Good on PH for doing it, I’m not a fan of the way the club seems to being run of late but at least it’s communication.
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Post by dugnet on May 19, 2021 12:24:09 GMT 1
100%. The comments on this thread are far more embarrassing than his shirt. I couldn't personally give a stuff if he was wearing a tu-tu. Absolutely no wonder the club are less than enthusiastic about communicating with fans. Think the rule is that until he starts throwing tens of millions of his own money at the club like we deserve, then he's going to be a target for constant derision and criticism. I for one do NOT want him to throw "tens of millions" at the club. I want a coherent plan for a long term future. There are a number of points that are being missed. The fans, rightly or wrongly (entirely different debate), saw our time in the Premier League as being a platform for making the club better in the long term. We have all witnessed, despite significant investment in players, the club essentially return to where we where in November 1995 (before DW arrived). I think whatever anyone's views are we are all disappointed at that outcome. PH is now entering his 3rd season in charge. I think it is fair to say that we have been riding choppy waters in that period with poor performances on the pitch, a lack of belief and eroding confidence in the decisions taken in running the club. PH made some bold choices in the previous two years. He is clearly sticking with Carlos (this clip, taken entirely out of context, demonstrating player support for his coaching is a little naive as it proves nothing) so what I am interested to hear is how the squad will be shaped to enable CC to show how capable he is. This doesn't mean spending millions it means clearly demonstrating that there is cohesion in thought between the coaches and the football management side of the club. Statements such as; "we are looking to bring an attacking exciting brand of football to the club", are not supported by some of the transfers we have seen to date (noting that some have been entirely circumstantial e.g. Keogh). For a club with a limited budget we need everyone to be working to the same cause and aligned. This is essential when it comes to player recruitment. What I want to hear is that this is the case and to then see evidence of this in the recruitment decisions. At the moment I don't get that sense of harmony. As an example, and it is unfair to comment on someone we are only rumoured to be signing, but I don't understand how Jordan Rhodes fits our plan. The problem is that after 3 years of decline, immediately after such outstanding success, it is perfectly understandable that people are at least sceptical about the direction of the club. We want to hear something we believe in and then see that belief translate into improvements across the club. PH has not made a great job of convincing the majority of fans he is capable of taking us forward. Some of, most perhaps, is a legacy of what he inherited. I do however think he needs to be genuinely more empathetic towards the fans and actually recognise that most of us understand a lot more we are apparently given credit for. We have seen what the club is capable of on a low budget and that highlighted the potential the club has (for me not embracing that potential is the biggest disappointment of the Premier League legacy) so let's see if we can move forward together. Until we hear the interview we can't really say anymore. I would observe that for some, probably a majority, the only way PH is going to to start winning people over is by genuine progress on the pitch. He didn't start with a good hand and he's not necessarily improved it in 2 years. As for his shirt, it is a bit of humour nothing more. It does however show how much respect he has to earn when people are commenting on his wardrobe.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2021 12:34:37 GMT 1
To be fair, Phil doesn't make it easy for himself does he? Leaving aside the shirt, it just does not sound professional to have a player texting the owner & calling him mate... it just makes it sound like Phil is trying too hard to be one of the lads. Its the PLAYER who calls him mate! Not sure how Phil can be lambasted for that!? Maybe he's easy to engage and deal with, its not exactly a massive organisation and they all go to work at the same place, he probably has spent time getting to know some of the players, especially the seniors who aren't that far off being age-peers. I know I wouldn't be sending random texts to the CEO of my multi-billion pound workplace, but I certainly do have chatty conversations with directors who have 500+ people in their units and are accountable for budgets multiple times larger than Hudds Town. It's a demonstration of trust and appreciation...a good sign.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2021 12:38:50 GMT 1
2. What the fuck is he wearing? One can only presume he knew he was going to be on camera Its the 2021/22 home kit reveal. Blue and White stripes have gone.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on May 19, 2021 12:48:24 GMT 1
100%. The comments on this thread are far more embarrassing than his shirt. I couldn't personally give a stuff if he was wearing a tu-tu. Absolutely no wonder the club are less than enthusiastic about communicating with fans. Think the rule is that until he starts throwing tens of millions of his own money at the club like we deserve, then he's going to be a target for constant derision and criticism. You seem obsessed with this notion that the fans want him to spend tens if millions of pounds. Most of us just want the club to buy some better players than we already have and not be involved I constant relegation battles every year. I'm mystified by your constant patronising attitude to other Town fans who actually want the club to succeed.
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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man on May 19, 2021 13:01:09 GMT 1
Think the rule is that until he starts throwing tens of millions of his own money at the club like we deserve, then he's going to be a target for constant derision and criticism. You seem obsessed with this notion that the fans want him to spend tens if millions of pounds. Most of us just want the club to buy some better players than we already have and not be involved I constant relegation battles every year. I'm mystified by your constant patronising attitude to other Town fans who actually want the club to succeed. I've not seen any Town fans saying they want millions of spend. None. Just signings that show ambition and a sense of direction.
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Post by runner76 on May 19, 2021 13:08:49 GMT 1
Christ. I reckon this will resonate most with 18-40 year olds, who will at some point have been trapped into having a pissed up conversation with someone who looks exactly like that. The types that dress in a style that only they see as youthful (guaranteed he's also rocking some ill-fitting jeans whose label was big in 1996, Firetrap probably), lean into your personal space far too much, go to needless lengths to back up whatever dull points they've just made, and generally think all the young lasses fancy them, despite them laughing behind their back when they've been sent up to the bar for another round of Bacardi Breezers. Cringe on toast. ...in Jonnys or Ethos
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Post by Toxic Ted on May 19, 2021 13:18:20 GMT 1
At least he hasn’t got his initials printed on his shirt any more.
Fair play to him, he’s had a torrid couple of years and is owed a bit of luck. Hopefully he has a plan to see an upturn in our fortunes so we are all a bit happier and he can enjoy running the club he loves for a few years.
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Post by Dan on May 19, 2021 13:23:08 GMT 1
Onto 3 pages based on a 1 minute clip. What a club.
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Post by Jimuano on May 19, 2021 13:24:04 GMT 1
This imminent transfer window is his last chance saloon. I don't really care what he says in all his interviews. Maybe he's nervous and trying to impress?
We've all met management who love a dick measuring contest. Yeah he comes across a bit daft but the proof is in the pudding and how we go forward from here.
He asked us to judge him after 3 windows, but surely that can be extended to this window what with the state of the world in 2 of those windows.
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Post by aca00js on May 19, 2021 13:27:22 GMT 1
Not at all. I have no idea what he's going to say. I literally commented on what I saw with my own eyes (which I've since leached) and what I heard with my own ears (which I've now van gogh'd) Are you his mum or something? 😂 nope, just agree with the post you replied sarcastically to, the club and him are written off before they do anything at the moment and it’s getting boring. That is the clubs fault, their actions (or inactions) during the time he bought the club have created this mess.
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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man on May 19, 2021 13:28:38 GMT 1
This imminent transfer window is his last chance saloon. I don't really care what he says in all his interviews. Maybe he's nervous and trying to impress? We've all met management who love a dick measuring contest. Yeah he comes across a bit daft but the proof is in the pudding and how we go forward from here. He asked us to judge him after 3 windows, but surely that can be extended to this window what with the state of the world in 2 of those windows.On a serious note, I agree. This window is make or break. If he does not back the manager (and that doesn't mean spunking millions) hen he's had enough chances and wasted them. If he does, then he's bought himself more time. But even if he gest this right, he'll need a few good windows in a row before many fans are fully won over. This window will either be the nail in his coffin or a stay of execution.
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Post by Tinpot on May 19, 2021 13:53:42 GMT 1
Jesus Christ give the lad a day off, if he doesn't speak everybody kicks off if he does speak everybody kicks off. Its clear we are having a big summer of change lets see where we are come August and support the club being open with us. 100%. The comments on this thread are far more embarrassing than his shirt. I couldn't personally give a stuff if he was wearing a tu-tu. Absolutely no wonder the club are less than enthusiastic about communicating with fans. I like Phil, but they really aren't.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2021 14:05:05 GMT 1
100%. The comments on this thread are far more embarrassing than his shirt. I couldn't personally give a stuff if he was wearing a tu-tu. Absolutely no wonder the club are less than enthusiastic about communicating with fans. I like Phil, but they really aren't. His own fellow Directors have been known to rip the piss out off what he’s turned up in on occasions, so us mere mortals are definitely allowed an opinion 😉
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Post by benhomly on May 19, 2021 14:10:57 GMT 1
I like Phil, but they really aren't. His own fellow Directors have been known to rip the piss out off what he’s turned up in on occasions, so us mere mortals are definitely allowed an opinion 😉 I'm sure they have, but probably without the undercurrent of hate that you get on here.
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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man on May 19, 2021 14:20:15 GMT 1
I like Phil, but they really aren't. His own fellow Directors have been known to rip the piss out off what he’s turned up in on occasions, so us mere mortals are definitely allowed an opinion 😉 When the club was sold to him I asked someone extremely close to Dean about Phil. The response was that he was a bit of a flash prick. Would fly privately to London matches etc, and wore Louboutin shows cos the red soles were easy to spot and indicated his wealth.
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Post by ritchie on May 19, 2021 14:21:00 GMT 1
Some right judgemental twats on here ffs give him a break
No I wouldnt wear the tshirt. But I wouldnt really care if he turned up in a black string vest showing his nipple piercings.
Yes he's trying to reassure the fans that carlos is still here for a reason (other than being too tight to sack him) I dont think its that strange for (presumably the club captain) to have a bit of conversation with the chairman at the end of a season. I imagine something like the following
"thanks for your hard work this season hoggy" "no problem [man who pays my wages]. dissapointing second half of the season but back this bloke he's shit hot"
would not be classed as strange were it coming from dean hoyle. lets say first wagner summer..
No I dont particularly want to have him over for a BBQ, but neither would I hoyle. Yes he's fair game for some criticism so far, and he's not helped himself in some cases. would he have got involved in the club if he had a crystal ball/knew how much of a financial struggle it was going to be? Not a chance
Lets judge him after this summer, where he will (hopefully) have a bit more power to change things/spend some money..without hoyle down his neck questiniong why we bought a new coffee machine.
We've already signed 5 players, the one named is of good championship quality
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Post by aca00js on May 19, 2021 14:40:26 GMT 1
I think he is a twat and wouldn't want to spend any time with him, but if he does what he said and backs Carlos with the right level (not millions) to let Carlos achieve his aims then that is fine with me.
I don't think he will mind but hoping I'm proved wrong. I don't need to like him but I do need to trust him and so far is has failed on that.
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Post by goodbet on May 19, 2021 14:45:40 GMT 1
Some right judgemental twats on here ffs give him a break No I wouldnt wear the tshirt. But I wouldnt really care if he turned up in a black string vest showing his nipple piercings. Yes he's trying to reassure the fans that carlos is still here for a reason (other than being too tight to sack him) I dont think its that strange for (presumably the club captain) to have a bit of conversation with the chairman at the end of a season. I imagine something like the following "thanks for your hard work this season hoggy" "no problem [man who pays my wages]. dissapointing second half of the season but back this bloke he's shit hot" would not be classed as strange were it coming from dean hoyle. lets say first wagner summer.. No I dont particularly want to have him over for a BBQ, but neither would I hoyle. Yes he's fair game for some criticism so far, and he's not helped himself in some cases. would he have got involved in the club if he had a crystal ball/knew how much of a financial struggle it was going to be? Not a chance Lets judge him after this summer, where he will (hopefully) have a bit more power to change things/spend some money..without hoyle down his neck questiniong why we bought a new coffee machine. We've already signed 5 players, the one named is of good championship quality I am not been a fan of Phil's so far but I am prepared to sit and wait and see who our signings are before I buy a season ticket. I am not one for personal abuse and I will try and hold back my sarcastic side on transfers until the season starts. I am not sure that we have signed 5 players yet and I will only believe it when they are announced officially, that is however blue the unofficial announcement may come from.
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Post by The Sheriff Strikes Back on May 19, 2021 14:51:18 GMT 1
Jesus Christ give the lad a day off, if he doesn't speak everybody kicks off if he does speak everybody kicks off. Its clear we are having a big summer of change lets see where we are come August and support the club being open with us. 100% this. Although PH wouldn't be doing himself any harm if he took on some media training.
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Post by blueandwhitescarf on May 19, 2021 14:53:40 GMT 1
Is he announcing that Leigh Bromby is now Head of Wardrobe?
The shirt is either a poor fashion choice or a clever red herring. Surely no-one could have thought that that choice of shirt wouldn't provoke comment and now much of the expected criticism will be swamped by 'shirt-gate' comments or seen as personal attacks.
A clever defensive stratergy, perhaps Phil should get the training top on after all.
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Post by Larry David on May 19, 2021 14:54:50 GMT 1
I mean, not being Jean Paul Gaultier or owt like that but hells teeth what the hell is he wearing? I mean really, come on man. He is chairman of a football club, not a two bit drug dealer from Ravensthorpe. He reminds me of when David Brent went off the rails If his words are anything like the same quality of his t shirt we are screwed.
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Post by Captainslapper on May 19, 2021 15:28:26 GMT 1
I don't think anybody's ever suggested that, but we do expect him to spend some of the £50million plus we've earned in player sales since relegation and deliver on his promise to back the manager. Lets hope this interview and the promised monthly update (due this week) brings some good news and then we can start to get behind him and the club in general. I agree. As I see it, it’s make or break time. With Season Card sales being ( allegedly) slow , we need a statement and actions of real intent from the club. If we don’t get this then the club deserves all it gets but if we do see signs of positive intent it’s time to get back behind the club. The club isn't this other seperate entity. It IS the fans. If it 'get all it deserves' then its the fans who feel that. We're the only constant. We are the 'it'.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2021 15:28:27 GMT 1
Wait until he stands up and we see his shorts! Let's pray to God they're not short shorts. 🤢 Tom Selleck magnum PI style,,, nice.
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Post by Captainslapper on May 19, 2021 15:37:33 GMT 1
Think the rule is that until he starts throwing tens of millions of his own money at the club like we deserve, then he's going to be a target for constant derision and criticism. You seem obsessed with this notion that the fans want him to spend tens if millions of pounds. Most of us just want the club to buy some better players than we already have and not be involved I constant relegation battles every year. I'm mystified by your constant patronising attitude to other Town fans who actually want the club to succeed. And where is PH getting this money from for these better players? Earlier a poster implied we had £50m sat there waiting to be spent! Im not trying to patronise anyone, I just don't think some have a realistic view of the situation.. to the point that to get what they expect/ demand, it has to fall on the owner to start chucking in millions of his own money. And whilst expecting that money to be found from somewhere and spent, they won't renew their SC until it is.
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Post by sabailand on May 19, 2021 15:46:54 GMT 1
Think the rule is that until he starts throwing tens of millions of his own money at the club like we deserve, then he's going to be a target for constant derision and criticism. I for one do NOT want him to throw "tens of millions" at the club. Oh i dont know.
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Post by huddersfc on May 19, 2021 15:59:01 GMT 1
Honestly, I dont think that clip shows him in a good light, but its obviously only a very small part of the interview. I dont mean the shirt either, personally I couldnt care less what he wears at home tbh or even what he wears in general full stop. I just think that reading a personal players text out like that to try and justify why we are sticking with CC, is a bit amateurish and a bit desperate. I am not being funny, but we have limped home with 1 game to spare, after witnessing some really worrying, inept, gutless performances under the current manager. The first team played the second half of the season like they didnt want to be there or the manager there either, and to just laugh off concerns with a private text conversation with a player, isnt great in my opinion.
BUT its a 1 minute clip, so I will reserve a proper opinion until seeing the whole interview, and put everything in context. Ultimately though, he will be judged on the decisions he makes and how he has run the club and how he will run the club in the future. The only thing I would say though, is that he really does need to think before making certain comments in interviews. Comments like the 5 strikers and we dont have to sell players are stupid and put you on the back foot.
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Post by Amigo on May 19, 2021 16:02:13 GMT 1
Let's be honest what ever he says can/will be spun to the most negative way possible as will anything he doesn't say. The vast majority of Chairmen/owners don't bother doing interviews and it's easy to see why.
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Post by Dan on May 19, 2021 16:03:54 GMT 1
Another snippet:
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on May 19, 2021 16:12:16 GMT 1
Sounds promising. Fingers crossed we get them over the line in time for the new season.
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