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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2021 14:37:12 GMT 1
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Post by detox on May 25, 2021 14:55:58 GMT 1
probably thinks if Sarr and keogh can get picked, so could he...and he's right..
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Post by Captainslapper on May 25, 2021 15:45:14 GMT 1
Sarr and Keogh have both been way better than Hudson ever was for town IMO.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2021 15:56:52 GMT 1
Sarr and Keogh have both been way better than Hudson ever was for town IMO. FFS are you having a laugh ? Hudson played a pivotal role in our excellent start to 2016/17. Way better than Sarr or Keogh have been this season. Certainly didn't drop so many clangers as Sarr.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2021 16:30:04 GMT 1
Yep, well he's been paid for doing feck all for the last year or so, you'd imagine a guy of his age would be itching to get back into employment.
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Post by Captainslapper on May 25, 2021 17:08:29 GMT 1
Sarr and Keogh have both been way better than Hudson ever was for town IMO. FFS are you having a laugh ? Hudson played a pivotal role in our excellent start to 2016/17. Way better than Sarr or Keogh have been this season. Certainly didn't drop so many clangers as Sarr. All I remember about Hudson is that he couldn't get his feet off the ground for an aerial challenge,, he was slower than any other player I can remember and he made a steady stream of gaffs. The good start in 16/17 was despite Hudson IMO. Sarr and Keogh have both made blunders but their defending is much better than Hudsons was.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on May 25, 2021 17:22:48 GMT 1
Sarr and Keogh have both been way better than Hudson ever was for town IMO. Give over, Hudson was crap but these two akin to The Chuckle Brothers. I think the myth that Nabby Sarr can defend correctly needs dispelling ASAP.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2021 17:40:06 GMT 1
Sarr and Keogh have both been way better than Hudson ever was for town IMO. Give over, Hudson was crap but these two akin to The Chuckle Brothers. I think the myth that Nabby Sarr can defend correctly needs dispelling ASAP. Sarr's akin to the amateur golfer hitting a great shot. Yes, he can do it. But only now and again. Half of the time he's off the fairway !
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Post by Captainslapper on May 25, 2021 18:20:29 GMT 1
Disagree. I think Sarrs defending is actually very good. Tackling, blocking shots, winning headers, tracking runners. All way better than Hudson was for town.
Where his game falls down is when he has the ball at his feet because he is prone to make a disastrous pass, though to be fair he can also knock a lovely 50 yard ball out to a wide player every so often. There again I don't remember Hudson being Pirlo with the ball at his feet either!
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2021 18:46:26 GMT 1
Disagree. I think Sarrs defending is actually very good. Tackling, blocking shots, winning headers, tracking runners. All way better than Hudson was for town. Where his game falls down is when he has the ball at his feet because he is prone to make a disastrous pass, though to be fair he can also knock a lovely 50 yard ball out to a wide player every so often. There again I don't remember Hudson being Pirlo with the ball at his feet either! I recall Hudson playing Premier League football for more than one club and top end championship football for many seasons. What has Sarr done?
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Post by Captainslapper on May 25, 2021 19:35:28 GMT 1
Oh right, so we're judging Hudson at Town on what he did before he played for Town? You should have explained.
King and Simpson are two of the best players we've had in our team for donkeys years then.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on May 25, 2021 19:58:57 GMT 1
Disagree. I think Sarrs defending is actually very good. Tackling, blocking shots, winning headers, tracking runners. All way better than Hudson was for town. Where his game falls down is when he has the ball at his feet because he is prone to make a disastrous pass, though to be fair he can also knock a lovely 50 yard ball out to a wide player every so often. There again I don't remember Hudson being Pirlo with the ball at his feet either! Put it this way, in the last 2 seasons Sarr has been the mainstay in defence of a team that were relegated and then a mainstay at one the conceded a horrendous amount of goals and weren't far of relegation.
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Post by Venezuelan Pete on May 25, 2021 19:59:34 GMT 1
Should've given him the job full time until the end of that season, we were going down and the pressure was off. It would have given us time to find the correct replacement in time for the summer.
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Post by digs on May 25, 2021 21:29:51 GMT 1
Disagree. I think Sarrs defending is actually very good. Tackling, blocking shots, winning headers, tracking runners. All way better than Hudson was for town. Where his game falls down is when he has the ball at his feet because he is prone to make a disastrous pass, though to be fair he can also knock a lovely 50 yard ball out to a wide player every so often. There again I don't remember Hudson being Pirlo with the ball at his feet either! I recall Hudson playing Premier League football for more than one club and top end championship football for many seasons. What has Sarr done? Tbf Sarrs played for Lyon,Sporting and Red Star,played in the Europa league,Hudson only played a hand full of games in the Premier,Cardiff got rid of him soon as they got there,he was another that came to the Town retirement home
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on May 25, 2021 21:42:00 GMT 1
I recall Hudson playing Premier League football for more than one club and top end championship football for many seasons. What has Sarr done? Tbf Sarrs played for Lyon,Sporting and Red Star,played in the Europa league,Hudson only played a hand full of games in the Premier,Cardiff got rid of him soon as they got there,he was another that came to the Town retirement home He played 32 games in total for those clubs, speaks volumes.
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Post by digs on May 25, 2021 22:04:49 GMT 1
Tbf Sarrs played for Lyon,Sporting and Red Star,played in the Europa league,Hudson only played a hand full of games in the Premier,Cardiff got rid of him soon as they got there,he was another that came to the Town retirement home He played 32 games in total for those clubs, speaks volumes. He's far from the worst defender to pull a Town shirt on,
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on May 25, 2021 22:32:27 GMT 1
He played 32 games in total for those clubs, speaks volumes. He's far from the worst defender to pull a Town shirt on, True but he's far from the best as well. He's very average, just another one in a long line if average signings. I can't remember the last time I was actually excited about a signing we made.
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Post by ambryboy on May 25, 2021 22:52:38 GMT 1
Should've given him the job full time until the end of that season, we were going down and the pressure was off. It would have given us time to find the correct replacement in time for the summer. Spot on, just posted the same (before I saw your post) on the Why Can't We Be Like - Brighton Or Norwich Or Burnley? thread.
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Post by RickDangerous on May 25, 2021 22:59:58 GMT 1
Hudson was okay for us. Well past his best, no where near as good as Sarr is, all the chopping and changing and having no one to come in for him when he was out of form was abit unfortunate for him this season. If I remember rightly Hudson had Joel Lynch next to him, who around that time was pretty good!
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Post by impact on May 25, 2021 23:55:11 GMT 1
Disagree. I think Sarrs defending is actually very good. Tackling, blocking shots, winning headers, tracking runners. All way better than Hudson was for town. Where his game falls down is when he has the ball at his feet because he is prone to make a disastrous pass, though to be fair he can also knock a lovely 50 yard ball out to a wide player every so often. There again I don't remember Hudson being Pirlo with the ball at his feet either! You also thought Anthony Gerrard was very good so I'll take that with a pinch of salt.
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Post by Captainslapper on May 26, 2021 0:07:51 GMT 1
Disagree. I think Sarrs defending is actually very good. Tackling, blocking shots, winning headers, tracking runners. All way better than Hudson was for town. Where his game falls down is when he has the ball at his feet because he is prone to make a disastrous pass, though to be fair he can also knock a lovely 50 yard ball out to a wide player every so often. There again I don't remember Hudson being Pirlo with the ball at his feet either! You also thought Anthony Gerrard was very good so I'll take that with a pinch of salt. Would have been POTS but for Clayton one season. I don't give a shit what you take it with.
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Post by The Sheriff Strikes Back on May 26, 2021 1:06:31 GMT 1
You also thought Anthony Gerrard was very good so I'll take that with a pinch of salt. Would have been POTS but for Clayton one season. I don't give a shit what you take it with. Which season is that?
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Post by Essex Terrier on May 26, 2021 2:33:11 GMT 1
Hudson was okay for us. Well past his best, no where near as good as Sarr is, all the chopping and changing and having no one to come in for him when he was out of form was abit unfortunate for him this season. If I remember rightly Hudson had Joel Lynch next to him, who around that time was pretty good! I often think Sarr and Lynch have (had?) similarities....if only because each could make you gasp at their ability/skills one moment, then commit the most horrendous gaff the next.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on May 26, 2021 6:50:30 GMT 1
Would have been POTS but for Clayton one season. I don't give a shit what you take it with. Which season is that? The one in his dream, absolute tragic centre back.
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Post by Tinpot on May 26, 2021 7:12:33 GMT 1
Should've given him the job full time until the end of that season, we were going down and the pressure was off. It would have given us time to find the correct replacement in time for the summer. Wasn't eligible due to PL rules about coaching badges.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on May 26, 2021 7:35:07 GMT 1
Should've given him the job full time until the end of that season, we were going down and the pressure was off. It would have given us time to find the correct replacement in time for the summer. Wasn't eligible due to PL rules about coaching badges. Judging by Seiwerts performance or Martin from Wakefield, which was more likely given what went on, these coaching badges didn't really do him many favours did they?
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Post by Tinpot on May 26, 2021 8:15:35 GMT 1
Wasn't eligible due to PL rules about coaching badges. Judging by Seiwerts performance or Martin from Wakefield, which was more likely given what went on, these coaching badges didn't really do him many favours did they? I don't know, those 5 league points we achieved during his entire tenure at the club were invaluable! But yeah, Hudson was ineligible, Siewert wasn't. We'd probably have got a few more points if we'd kept Hudson a bit longer but we'd have still gone down, and might have given Siewert more time in 19/20 to turn it around. On balance - if we had to employ somebody utterly inept as our Jan - I'm glad we appointed him sooner rather than later.
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Post by Captainslapper on May 26, 2021 8:59:21 GMT 1
Would have been POTS but for Clayton one season. I don't give a shit what you take it with. Which season is that? 2013/14 He was the only player that came close to Clayton really IMO but shared second place in the BWF awards with Dixon. www.htafc.com/news/2014/april/clayton-wins-bwf-player-of-the-year/Apparently he wasn't a lovely person and was related to Stevie G and some couldn't get past those vital things when assessing a player's performances. But in terms of consistency, reliability and quality he was a very good player for us at that time.
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Post by Captainslapper on May 26, 2021 9:02:20 GMT 1
The one in his dream, absolute tragic centre back. Seems a lot of people had the same dream. Your view must have been obscured by your 'spend more money Hoyle! ' banner.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2021 10:11:02 GMT 1
I recall Hudson playing Premier League football for more than one club and top end championship football for many seasons. What has Sarr done? Tbf Sarrs played for Lyon,Sporting and Red Star,played in the Europa league,Hudson only played a hand full of games in the Premier,Cardiff got rid of him soon as they got there,he was another that came to the Town retirement home And yet without him the chances are we'd never have seen the EPL. He made 26 appearances that season, and played a vital part alongside Schindler whilst Hefele slowly came up to speed and was gradually eased into action. We collected more points and conceded fewer goals in the first half of that season (where Hudson played more games at centre half) compared to the second (where Hefele did). He knows exactly what his limits were at age 35 - but he certainly didn't let himself or the club down in that final season, and I guess thats partly why Wagner gave him such freedom to pick and choose the role he'd have etc, presumably the similar conversations that are now ongoing with Richard Keogh.
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