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Post by townrwe on Jul 19, 2021 14:36:31 GMT 1
No they aren't. Should be level 1 to 3.
Level 1 - low level abuse, low level racial or homophobic opinion and language. Probably other things included in this. I.e call someone a c***, tell them to fuck off, homosexuals are deviants, Christians are all alcoholics.. just examples.
Range of sanctions - warning to 2 week ban.
Level 2- moderate abuse, abusing an admin, borderline extreme racial, sexual or homophobic language.
Range of sanctions - 2 to 8 week ban.
Level 3 - Leeds fan, extreme abuse including threatening language, extreme racial, sexual or homophobic language
Range of sanctions - 8 week to lifetime ban.
If you have 100 level one offences that is where you stay, just continue to be hit with 2 week bans time and time again, same at level 2, level 3 If you survive a life ban first time. Second offense your a gonner.
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Post by kennyk2 on Jul 19, 2021 14:40:50 GMT 1
You can tell by the amount of people that have fucked the forum off that the admins are doing an impeccable job of upholding the unquestionable and unwavering rules. Interestingly, I've had more people tell me they no longer frequent this site because of the behaviour of some posters (including those involved in and related to this discussion) than the conduct of the admins. Indeed, on Saturday morning at my son's footy training I was chatting with a DATM member who admitted to having considered no longer visiting here. They also confirmed they had often considered challenging posts like this that resulted in Oti's ban but thinking better of it as they felt they'd immediately become a target. Do I think we admins are perfect? far from itDo I believe we all have the best interests of the wider board at heart? Absolutely This board remains the only real forum of note for Town fans. Others, as you know, have come and go. We get, typically, hundreds of members viewing daily and even more guests. I can't speak for Kenny or Rigsdon (despite what you have asserted) as they have their own minds, but I do sometimes ask myself why I bother giving up time to admin this place, given the abuse it brings from people that I would otherwise not get. But when issues like this crop up, we get private messages of support from the silent majority. Those who do shy away from commenting on the more contentious topics for fear of putting themselves in the crosshairs. These massages are often the reason I decide not to return to the fold and hang up my admin "hat". That, and the power makes me harder than industrial strength viagra, as you well know. I am. |
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Post by townrwe on Jul 19, 2021 14:43:52 GMT 1
As I see it, If you get a yellow card one week and then another the week after then you don't get a ban, you need 5 over a few weeks to be in trouble. Level 1
If you get a red, you get 3 to 8 matches off generally from a professional foul, to biting or spitting. Level 2.
If you get caught taking steroids, or chew someone's ear off, or make a serious offensive comment you get probably 12 weeks to 4 years, for the first offense and then lifetime ban for the second.
Just because you got a yellow last week doesn't make the yellow this week any worse.
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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man (Destabiliser) on Jul 19, 2021 15:21:22 GMT 1
As I see it, If you get a yellow card one week and then another the week after then you don't get a ban, you need 5 over a few weeks to be in trouble. Level 1 If you get a red, you get 3 to 8 matches off generally from a professional foul, to biting or spitting. Level 2. If you get caught taking steroids, or chew someone's ear off, or make a serious offensive comment you get probably 12 weeks to 4 years, for the first offense and then lifetime ban for the second. Just because you got a yellow last week doesn't make the yellow this week any worse. As I see it, your suggestions here highlight that the admin role isn't for everyone... |
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Post by artysid on Jul 19, 2021 15:34:06 GMT 1
You can tell by the amount of people that have fucked the forum off that the admins are doing an impeccable job of upholding the unquestionable and unwavering rules. Do you genuinely believe having a set of rules that try to ensure people interact decently between each other is the main reasons people leave this forum, as opposed to reading some of the intolerant abusive posts some posters believe are an acceptable way to interact with others ? Am I right in assuming you believe the rules are too restrictive at the moment and need relaxing even more? Apologies if I've got that wrong. |
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Post by Wingman on Jul 19, 2021 15:45:34 GMT 1
Gag_N_Bone_Man (Destabiliser), just a suggestion, this may already be in play but I’m not sure. Would it work better if each Admin had a section of the site to control, I.e you took Off Topic and the politics board, Kenny took TOTT, and Rigodon a collection of everything else? You’d all still need to adjudicate issues but at least there would be one admin who answers to a board? Just an idea. Bin it if it’s rubbish 😂.
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Post by El Mel on Jul 19, 2021 17:03:14 GMT 1
You can tell by the amount of people that have fucked the forum off that the admins are doing an impeccable job of upholding the unquestionable and unwavering rules. Do you genuinely believe having a set of rules that try to ensure people interact decently between each other is the main reasons people leave this forum, as opposed to reading some of the intolerant abusive posts some posters believe are an acceptable way to interact with others ? Am I right in assuming you believe the rules are too restrictive at the moment and need relaxing even more? Apologies if I've got that wrong. The rules define the forum mate, you know how many characters used to post on here that don't bother anymore. It all feels a bit - 'Family Stand' these days. The reporting system just allows folk to grass up people they don't like, until eventually, they are gone. |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jul 19, 2021 17:12:59 GMT 1
Do you genuinely believe having a set of rules that try to ensure people interact decently between each other is the main reasons people leave this forum, as opposed to reading some of the intolerant abusive posts some posters believe are an acceptable way to interact with others ? Am I right in assuming you believe the rules are too restrictive at the moment and need relaxing even more? Apologies if I've got that wrong. The rules define the forum mate, you know how many characters used to post on here that don't bother anymore. It all feels a bit - 'Family Stand' these days. The reporting system just allows folk to grass up people they don't like, until eventually, they are gone. Everyone hates me and I'm still here |
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Post by sapphireblue on Jul 19, 2021 17:20:58 GMT 1
The rules define the forum mate, you know how many characters used to post on here that don't bother anymore. It all feels a bit - 'Family Stand' these days. The reporting system just allows folk to grass up people they don't like, until eventually, they are gone. Everyone hates me and I'm still here Reported. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2021 17:28:51 GMT 1
You can tell by the amount of people that have fucked the forum off that the admins are doing an impeccable job of upholding the unquestionable and unwavering rules. Do you genuinely believe having a set of rules that try to ensure people interact decently between each other is the main reasons people leave this forum, as opposed to reading some of the intolerant abusive posts some posters believe are an acceptable way to interact with others ? Am I right in assuming you believe the rules are too restrictive at the moment and need relaxing even more? Apologies if I've got that wrong. I've spoken to a fair few people who've either: - been a poster, but stopped posting - rubbernecked, either as a registered member or as a guest - been put off even visiting from how people have described it. I'm hearing three reasons, not necessarily mutually-exclusive. 1. It seems overwhelmingly negative. Fair, IMO. Whether it's representative of the Town fan base or not, I've no idea - though it doesn't tally too much with the Town fans I know in person. That said - Town Twitter is pretty negative on the whole, in my experience. Town Facebook is generally very negative - along with a lot of other adjectives I won't mention here. Maybe football supporters in general are prone to negativity? Probably, I'd posit. Just listen to the Man United fans' despair at the very idea of dropping out of the Top Four under Moyes - Jesus wept. Is it a Yorkshire trait - "if tha always expects the worst, tha will never be disappointed" - maybe. Is it because from the second season in the PL onwards, we've been a bit bobbins? Maybe, but it goes back further than that. Personally, I do feel that there are a hardcore of DATM "supporters" who seem to revel in misery. Not mentioning any names, you know who you are. 2. It's not representative. This is a tricky one. I don't want to generalise, but I dare say most DATM posters are of a certain age, generally male, generally white. The age thing, I suspect, is because forums are considered a slightly outdated form of Internet discussion. The latter two, might just reflect the fan-base, but more likely it's more nuanced than that. 3. It's toxic. Hard to argue with this. I'd imagine a lot of people might take one look at the politics board and think "fuck this", and never come back. This is partly why I've been so active as a (haha) "social justice warrior" recently. I like DATM, but I take on board what people are saying about it. Is it because people who are kicked off for being bigots? I'm calling bullshit on that. Is it down to the admins? Nah. |
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Post by Porrohman on Jul 19, 2021 17:43:54 GMT 1
If you want REALLY stupid, I've just received a 24hr ban from FB for posting a cartoon another member of DATM sent be showing Bozo having a Covid test, at the door of no 10, where he's put the cotton bud in his ear and it goes straight through the other ear. I've been banned for posting nudity and/or sexually explicit content, it contains neither unless someone at FB HQ gets turned on by a cartoon Bozo 🤨
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Post by turbo2 on Jul 19, 2021 17:53:21 GMT 1
If you want REALLY stupid, I've just received a 24hr ban from FB for posting a cartoon another member of DATM sent be showing Bozo having a Covid test, at the door of no 10, where he's put the cotton bud in his ear and it goes straight through the other ear. I've been banned for posting nudity and/or sexually explicit content, it contains neither unless someone at FB HQ gets turned on by a cartoon Bozo 🤨 Please put that on here. Sounds funny |
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Post by townrwe on Jul 19, 2021 17:55:43 GMT 1
As I see it, If you get a yellow card one week and then another the week after then you don't get a ban, you need 5 over a few weeks to be in trouble. Level 1 If you get a red, you get 3 to 8 matches off generally from a professional foul, to biting or spitting. Level 2. If you get caught taking steroids, or chew someone's ear off, or make a serious offensive comment you get probably 12 weeks to 4 years, for the first offense and then lifetime ban for the second. Just because you got a yellow last week doesn't make the yellow this week any worse. As I see it, your suggestions here highlight that the admin role isn't for everyone... In that case I imagine it's definitely not for you. Folk offer constructive input but the dictatorship of melts decide to do what it wants. Remind me who this forum is running for? Your job is to encourage as many people from as diverse a background to have the opportunity to enjoy interacting with the forum, it is not to dictate what can be said and who can say what depending on if you like them or not. |
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Post by Porrohman on Jul 19, 2021 17:57:33 GMT 1
If you want REALLY stupid, I've just received a 24hr ban from FB for posting a cartoon another member of DATM sent be showing Bozo having a Covid test, at the door of no 10, where he's put the cotton bud in his ear and it goes straight through the other ear. I've been banned for posting nudity and/or sexually explicit content, it contains neither unless someone at FB HQ gets turned on by a cartoon Bozo 🤨 Please put that on here. Sounds funny I don't know how to actually put the cartoon on here but I screenshot the FB page and put it on Twitter, in disgust, I'll share that and hope it shows properly. |
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Post by Porrohman on Jul 19, 2021 17:57:56 GMT 1
Edit : I challenged the decision and they admitted they got it wrong, I'm no longer in jail 😁
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Post by mids on Jul 19, 2021 17:58:04 GMT 1
The rules define the forum mate, you know how many characters used to post on here that don't bother anymore. It all feels a bit - 'Family Stand' these days. The reporting system just allows folk to grass up people they don't like, until eventually, they are gone. Everyone hates me and I'm still here I don't hate you. In fact you're one of my favourites on here. Sorry. Hope that's not a yellow card offence, on top of my cry for leniency for Otium  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2021 18:05:56 GMT 1
Hello all - been a while.
As an ex-admin I want to make you aware of one very important thing.
This is a free-to-run Proboards forum - not one person ‘owns’ it or makes money from it - it’s for the fans, always has been.
However - if content of a certain persuasion is posted - then pro boards are very quick to issue a warning and/or a takedown notice. They can scuttle this entire board in a heartbeat - I’ve seen and dealt with the threats before.
Worth having the context whilst you are all getting frothy at the mouth.
The job SUCKS BALLS - admins deserve a medal, easy or not.
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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man (Destabiliser) on Jul 19, 2021 18:47:46 GMT 1
Your job is to encourage as many people from as diverse a background to have the opportunity to enjoy interacting with the forum, it is not to dictate what can be said and who can say what depending on if you like them or not. If you believe this sentence, you should agree with sanctions for posts including racist, homophobic or other views that would potentially prevent people from a diverse background from.feeling welcome here. |
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Post by Manx Terrier on Jul 19, 2021 19:42:50 GMT 1
Sorry about a long post. The present rules are not fit for purpose and need revising and simplifying. They should be designed primarily to protect abuse of specific forum members and not be about hurting feelings of individuals or groups. As an example have a look at Liverpool FC Forum Rules below and they are clear, straight forward and simple to understand and the type of thing we need. Ours are long, complicated and quite unfair in places. It is at the end a football forum and it's focus should be preventing abuse - not stopping comments that might upset people. Forum Rules ---------------- 1. The following are UNACCEPTABLE and will likely result in a permanent ban or a severe warning. Posts will also be deleted. 1.1 RACIST abuse of another forum member. 1.2 SPAM / ADVERTISING ( This forum doesn't offer advertising for free. If you want to post a commercial link or engage in advertising then please email us first - business@lfcreds.com ) 1.3 TICKET TOUTING ( ie. selling a ticket over face value + reasonable postage costs ) 1.4 BULLYING OR ABUSIVE POSTS aimed at a fellow poster. We do understand that occasionally emotion can run high but any concerted and continuing abuse aimed at another poster will be classed as trolling and will result in action. Forum Guidelines ------------------- Please stick to our clear guidelines to get the best experience out of the forum 2.1 DO NOT TROLL - The spirit of the forum has been maintained because of our determination to remove users who engage in baiting, trolling and deliberately winding up other users. We have banned a number of members even with very high post counts on the forum and will do so again. 2.2 DON'T SIGN UP WITH A FAKE EMAIL ADDRESS/USING PROXY SOFTWARE - If you signed up to the forum with a fake or disposable email address it is likely that you will see your account restricted, and you could lose access to it. 2.3 FANS OF OTHER CLUBS WELCOME - As long as you're not an idiot. If you come to talk sense and decent football chat you're welcome. If you're on a wind up or here to troll Liverpool fans you will be banned and your posts will be deleted. 2.4 SWEARING IS ALLOWED (BUT NOT IN TOPIC TITLES) - when you first sign up an automatic word-censor is in place. If you are an adult and can take a bit of industrial language - you can switch this off as one of your member profile options. This is a football forum and there may be words used that could be heard at football grounds. 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Post by sapphireblue on Jul 19, 2021 20:06:53 GMT 1
Sorry about a long post. As an example have a look at Liverpool FC Forum Rules below and they are clear, straight forward and simple to understand and the type of thing we need. Ours are long, complicated and quite unfair in places. It is at the end a football forum and it's focus should be preventing abuse - not stopping comments that might upset people. Forum Rules ---------------- 1. The following are UNACCEPTABLE and will likely result in a permanent ban or a severe warning. Posts will also be deleted. 1.1 RACIST abuse of another forum member. So rasist abuse is okay as long as it's not against another forum member. Really??? Fuck them right off if that's the case. And if you think that is "the kind of thing we need" shame on you Manx., |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2021 20:24:50 GMT 1
What makes a football forum, at the end of the day, any different from any other corner of the internet? Racists get a longer leash? What does that mean?
Has anybody learned anything?
This is where the problem is. It doesn’t need slack - it needs dealing with. Football thinks it can be different because bullshit.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jul 19, 2021 20:36:25 GMT 1
2.5 DO NOT POST IN ALL CAPITAL LETTERS - Posting in all caps is rude.
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Post by Manx Terrier on Jul 19, 2021 20:37:09 GMT 1
Sorry about a long post. As an example have a look at Liverpool FC Forum Rules below and they are clear, straight forward and simple to understand and the type of thing we need. Ours are long, complicated and quite unfair in places. It is at the end a football forum and it's focus should be preventing abuse - not stopping comments that might upset people. Forum Rules ---------------- 1. The following are UNACCEPTABLE and will likely result in a permanent ban or a severe warning. Posts will also be deleted. 1.1 RACIST abuse of another forum member. So rasist abuse is okay as long as it's not against another forum member. Really??? Fuck them right off if that's the case. And if you think that is "the kind of thing we need" shame on you Manx., Well if you had read more than three lines of the rules you would have seen that the administrators are given the " right to ban users either temporarily or permanently depending on the severity of offences either listed or unlisted above " which should cover your point. So they have very wide powers indeed. These words need to be given more prominence. I don't think rules can cover everything and you would need to rely on the common sense of the administrators. |
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Post by townrwe on Jul 19, 2021 20:40:17 GMT 1
Your job is to encourage as many people from as diverse a background to have the opportunity to enjoy interacting with the forum, it is not to dictate what can be said and who can say what depending on if you like them or not. If you believe this sentence, you should agree with sanctions for posts including racist, homophobic or other views that would potentially prevent people from a diverse background from.feeling welcome here. Exactly, but should be reflective of the level of offense. Homosexuals been deviants is hardly up there with offensive posts or abuse that could be used, I'd say its very much a level of warning about future cinduct, you could go down a warning, final warning, week ban, reoccurring two week ban. I think that would be enough after the first or second two week ban. I'm not even sure it really deserves a warning in that instance. I would have probably accepted that as an expression of free speech, despite disagreeing with it. It's at a level similar to a vegan calling meat eaters murderers |
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Post by sapphireblue on Jul 19, 2021 20:54:12 GMT 1
So rasist abuse is okay as long as it's not against another forum member. Really??? Fuck them right off if that's the case. And if you think that is "the kind of thing we need" shame on you Manx., Well if you had read more than three lines of the rules you would have seen that the administrators are given the " right to ban users either temporarily or permanently depending on the severity of offences either listed or unlisted above " which should cover your point. So they have very wide powers indeed. These words need to be given more prominence. I don't think rules can cover everything and you would need to rely on the common sense of the administrators. I read every word of your post but cut out the rest so folks didn't have to scroll through all the bullshit. So don't try and patronise me. "The present rules are not fit for purpose and need revising and simplifying. They should be designed primarily to protect abuse of specific forum members and not be about hurting feelings of individuals or groups." That gem was from you. You then go on to post the vaguest set of rules imaginable that, at your own admission, depend on admin discretion. Rule one should read. "Racist abuse or language will not be tolerated, at all." No caveats, no sub-clauses, nothing added. It's simple. Do you agree? |
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Post by El Mel on Jul 19, 2021 21:02:14 GMT 1
Well if you had read more than three lines of the rules you would have seen that the administrators are given the " right to ban users either temporarily or permanently depending on the severity of offences either listed or unlisted above " which should cover your point. So they have very wide powers indeed. These words need to be given more prominence. I don't think rules can cover everything and you would need to rely on the common sense of the administrators. I read every word of your post but cut out the rest so folks didn't have to scroll through all the bullshit. So don't try and patronise me. "The present rules are not fit for purpose and need revising and simplifying. They should be designed primarily to protect abuse of specific forum members and not be about hurting feelings of individuals or groups." That gem was from you. You then go on to post the vaguest set of rules imaginable that, at your own admission, depend on admin discretion. Rule one should read. "Racist abuse or language will not be tolerated, at all." No caveats, no sub-clauses, nothing added. It's simple. Do you agree? Im fairness it looked to me like you'd cut it to make Manx look bad. That's how I read it. You seem to be attempting to discredit him for sharing another forums rules. |
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Post by Stewpot on Jul 19, 2021 21:06:15 GMT 1
If you want REALLY stupid, I've just received a 24hr ban from FB for posting a cartoon another member of DATM sent be showing Bozo having a Covid test, at the door of no 10, where he's put the cotton bud in his ear and it goes straight through the other ear. I've been banned for posting nudity and/or sexually explicit content, it contains neither unless someone at FB HQ gets turned on by a cartoon Bozo 🤨 I received a 72 hour ban for the use of the word "faggots". Context is all though, it was a discussion on your favourite comfort foods you used to enjoy for tea. I presume it doesn't transfer well to the other side of the pond, argued my case but they were having none of it! |
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Post by sapphireblue on Jul 19, 2021 21:08:20 GMT 1
I read every word of your post but cut out the rest so folks didn't have to scroll through all the bullshit. So don't try and patronise me. "The present rules are not fit for purpose and need revising and simplifying. They should be designed primarily to protect abuse of specific forum members and not be about hurting feelings of individuals or groups." That gem was from you. You then go on to post the vaguest set of rules imaginable that, at your own admission, depend on admin discretion. Rule one should read. "Racist abuse or language will not be tolerated, at all." No caveats, no sub-clauses, nothing added. It's simple. Do you agree? Im fairness it looked to me like you'd cut it to make Manx look bad. That's how I read it. You seem to be attempting to discredit him for sharing another forums rules. Not at all. Unless he agrees with them. Edit. I don't need to discredit him, he's doing a perfectly good job on his own. |
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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man (Destabiliser) on Jul 19, 2021 22:38:22 GMT 1
So rasist abuse is okay as long as it's not against another forum member. Really??? Fuck them right off if that's the case. And if you think that is "the kind of thing we need" shame on you Manx., Well if you had read more than three lines of the rules you would have seen that the administrators are given the " right to ban users either temporarily or permanently depending on the severity of offences either listed or unlisted above " which should cover your point. So they have very wide powers indeed. These words need to be given more prominence. I don't think rules can cover everything and you would need to rely on the common sense of the administrators. So based on these rules, if we applied them, Oti being banned is fine and dandy. |
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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man (Destabiliser) on Jul 19, 2021 22:40:57 GMT 1
If you believe this sentence, you should agree with sanctions for posts including racist, homophobic or other views that would potentially prevent people from a diverse background from.feeling welcome here. Exactly, but should be reflective of the level of offense. Homosexuals been deviants is hardly up there with offensive posts or abuse that could be used, I'd say its very much a level of warning about future cinduct, you could go down a warning, final warning, week ban, reoccurring two week ban. I think that would be enough after the first or second two week ban. I'm not even sure it really deserves a warning in that instance. I would have probably accepted that as an expression of free speech, despite disagreeing with it. It's at a level similar to a vegan calling meat eaters murderers I'm actually starting to agree with the premise of this thread. The rules do need revision. We need a rule that allows an instant ban for unforgivable levels of stupidity. |
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