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Post by tockyterrier on Aug 15, 2022 13:36:05 GMT 1
It becomes all the more bizarre when you read back on DS’s quotes in the recent press conference Pre Preston. Saying he was doing very well and could potentially play against them. It seamed a case of Schofield trying to save his bacon to me - bring on 3 who are tried and tested in the hopes it stems the bleeding and doesn't end 6/7-0 instead of giving a young lad a go. Signs of someone under pressure. 3 down in a toxic atmosphere not really the time to make a debut to a young lad. 2 up is the time to do it IMO. |
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Post by k1man999 on Aug 15, 2022 13:43:35 GMT 1
Spoke to Danny on Saturday was in the FM stand like a lot of B team players are game day
He's ready to play and hinted he'd asked to go on loan but club reluctant to let him.
Hope he gets a chance soon.
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Post by halifaxterrier9 on Aug 15, 2022 15:12:58 GMT 1
He’s not. DS is petrified of another loss. Doesn’t want to start or have a player that’s never played as even a sub, to be relied upon for Town. Proves he’s no bottle at all and that’s his downfall and what will eventually lead to him getting shifted. I’ve nowt against DS, he shouldn’t really be in this position right now but why not try something you haven’t already? Koroma should be dropped simple as that and Grant is good enough for Town as we will come to see, he’s certainly better than a few in that squad anyway. Lose today and if he’s not on the bench at least Tuesday, DS has lost the plot This the same DS that has just given a debut to Etienne Camara? Yeah that DS, easy to do when we are 2-1 up at home with 7 minutes left. No balls when we are losing though to give a young one that opportunity to turn a game on its head potentially, as opposed to reverting back to a tried and tested player on the decline. Can't compare bringing a player on for a debut in a winning situation to not doing it when losing. It screams bottling and its what separates a manager with a good instinct. Didn't even try him against Preston at all, nor in the squad at Birmingham or for Stoke. Is he good enough? I reckon he's a damn sight better than two players on our bench currently and the lad will give it everything as he's summat to prove. DS hopefully has some minerals tomorrow and whacks him in the squad. Lets give him a debut then? I'm not against DS but he's probably skull fucked him with that squad selection at Preston and reverting back to old |
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Post by VLP Fan Club on Aug 15, 2022 15:14:04 GMT 1
This the same DS that has just given a debut to Etienne Camara? Yeah that DS, easy to do when we are 2-1 up at home with 7 minutes left. No balls when we are losing though to give a young one that opportunity to turn a game on its head potentially, as opposed to reverting back to a tried and tested player on the decline. Can't compare bringing a player on for a debut in a winning situation to not doing it when losing. It screams bottling and its what separates a manager with a good instinct. Didn't even try him against Preston at all, nor in the squad at Birmingham or for Stoke. Is he good enough? I reckon he's a damn sight better than two players on our bench currently and the lad will give it everything as he's summat to prove. DS hopefully has some minerals tomorrow and whacks him in the squad. Lets give him a debut then? I'm not against DS but he's probably skull fucked him with that squad selection at Preston and reverting back to old I'd argue that it's more ballsy to sub a young kid on with 7 minutes left with only a 1 goal lead..... buy hey ho |
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Post by halifaxterrier9 on Aug 15, 2022 15:26:42 GMT 1
Yeah that DS, easy to do when we are 2-1 up at home with 7 minutes left. No balls when we are losing though to give a young one that opportunity to turn a game on its head potentially, as opposed to reverting back to a tried and tested player on the decline. Can't compare bringing a player on for a debut in a winning situation to not doing it when losing. It screams bottling and its what separates a manager with a good instinct. Didn't even try him against Preston at all, nor in the squad at Birmingham or for Stoke. Is he good enough? I reckon he's a damn sight better than two players on our bench currently and the lad will give it everything as he's summat to prove. DS hopefully has some minerals tomorrow and whacks him in the squad. Lets give him a debut then? I'm not against DS but he's probably skull fucked him with that squad selection at Preston and reverting back to old I'd argue that it's more ballsy to sub a young kid on with 7 minutes left with only a 1 goal lead..... buy hey ho Fresh legs in midfield to shore it up as such, seen enough to know he's the ability and we have seen that from Grant too, not an attacking player to try get a draw from a losing position..... That would be ballsy.... "O get us a goal son, make your mark,lets get something from this".... But hey ho |
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Post by bobrobterrier on Aug 15, 2022 16:41:37 GMT 1
Surely they let him go on loan. Theres no shortage of suitors. He cannot be playing B team games for another 5 months.
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Post by Tinpot on Aug 15, 2022 16:46:26 GMT 1
Yeah that DS, easy to do when we are 2-1 up at home with 7 minutes left. No balls when we are losing though to give a young one that opportunity to turn a game on its head potentially, as opposed to reverting back to a tried and tested player on the decline. Can't compare bringing a player on for a debut in a winning situation to not doing it when losing. It screams bottling and its what separates a manager with a good instinct. Didn't even try him against Preston at all, nor in the squad at Birmingham or for Stoke. Is he good enough? I reckon he's a damn sight better than two players on our bench currently and the lad will give it everything as he's summat to prove. DS hopefully has some minerals tomorrow and whacks him in the squad. Lets give him a debut then? I'm not against DS but he's probably skull fucked him with that squad selection at Preston and reverting back to old I'd argue that it's more ballsy to sub a young kid on with 7 minutes left with only a 1 goal lead..... buy hey ho Agreed. A 1 goal lead does not make for a game that has been decided. Suppose Etienne Camara had made a blooper that led to a Stoke equaliser. Suppose they then got a late winner in a game we looked destined to win. Right or wrong, it was a bold move, and a lot of pressure on a young lad's shoulders, particularly given our star to the season, that win was precious & it points to a lot of trust being placed in EC. Conversely, 3 goals down with 5 minutes remaining the game has gone, the pressure is off. Go & express yourself. Nothing to lose. Didn't Sorba Thomas get his first real taste of action when we were already 5-0 down at Norwich? Provided one of our rare bright moments with a sublime cross to Ward that he (just) failed to get on the end of. Whatever the reason is, I don't think it's lack of guts or a cautious approach from DS that's keeping Grant out of the side. |
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Post by Tinpot on Aug 15, 2022 16:52:03 GMT 1
Surely they let him go on loan. Theres no shortage of suitors. He cannot be playing B team games for another 5 months. Agreed. That's one thing that's bothered me about this transfer window is that there are loads of B Team prospects who look like having their development stifled as so few have gone on loan to get 1st team football. Grant is one of about a dozen or more players that I feel would benefit from a loan. Doesn't even have to be that high a level now. Even if they're potentially Championship-ready now, I'd take some of them going to Halifax or some other National League side ahead of B Team. At least they'd be playing in games that matter. |
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Post by Big Ern on Aug 15, 2022 16:55:45 GMT 1
Surely they let him go on loan. Theres no shortage of suitors. He cannot be playing B team games for another 5 months. Agreed. That's one thing that's bothered me about this transfer window is that there are loads of B Team prospects who look like having their development stifled as so few have gone on loan to get 1st team football. Grant is one of about a dozen or more players that I feel would benefit from a loan. Doesn't even have to be that high a level now. Even if they're potentially Championship-ready now, I'd take some of them going to Halifax or some other National League side ahead of B Team. At least they'd be playing in games that matter. Isn't he out of contract at the end of the season though? If he goes out on loan and bosses it he may just decide to leave on a free at the end of the season. He needs ro play here. |
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Post by Tinpot on Aug 15, 2022 17:23:14 GMT 1
Agreed. That's one thing that's bothered me about this transfer window is that there are loads of B Team prospects who look like having their development stifled as so few have gone on loan to get 1st team football. Grant is one of about a dozen or more players that I feel would benefit from a loan. Doesn't even have to be that high a level now. Even if they're potentially Championship-ready now, I'd take some of them going to Halifax or some other National League side ahead of B Team. At least they'd be playing in games that matter. Isn't he out of contract at the end of the season though? If he goes out on loan and bosses it he may just decide to leave on a free at the end of the season. He needs ro play here. Yes, but with the option for us to extend another year. www.htafc.com/news/2020/december/transfer-ireland-u21-international-danny-grant-signs/ |
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Post by Tinpot on Aug 15, 2022 19:14:30 GMT 1
Agreed. That's one thing that's bothered me about this transfer window is that there are loads of B Team prospects who look like having their development stifled as so few have gone on loan to get 1st team football. Grant is one of about a dozen or more players that I feel would benefit from a loan. Doesn't even have to be that high a level now. Even if they're potentially Championship-ready now, I'd take some of them going to Halifax or some other National League side ahead of B Team. At least they'd be playing in games that matter. Serious questions would need to be asked of the B team system along with loan manager Dave Fox if some of them ended up at Halifax Depends which ones we're referring to, but broadly I agree. The point I was trying to make though is that for those who need first team football, even if there's no suitable offers from leagues 1 or 2, I'd expect them to make more progress playing competitive first team football in the 5th tier than stagnating in the B Team. |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Aug 18, 2022 19:10:46 GMT 1
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Post by Wagner Uber Alles on Aug 18, 2022 22:58:37 GMT 1
Danny Grant? Isn’t he that young Irish player we bought 15 years ago and for unfathomable reasons no manager ever played him, now about to retire from the game?
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Post by Tinpot on Aug 19, 2022 12:11:57 GMT 1
Danny Grant? Isn’t he that young Irish player we bought 15 years ago and for unfathomable reasons no manager ever played him, now about to retire from the game? Hardly unfathomable. He's been injured multiple times & had a couple of bad reactions to Covid. Most of the time he's been here he's been unavailable. |
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Aug 19, 2022 12:46:25 GMT 1
He desperately needs a loan at a good level imo
That he didn’t play a minute in that Preston debacle was pretty telling
Fleetwood would be a great move at a good level. Hopefully he goes there and shows what he’s got
We also need to get Rowe on loan asap as he looks to have stalled and isn’t near the first team squad let alone the first 11
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Post by mosher on Aug 19, 2022 15:32:31 GMT 1
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Post by bobrobterrier on Aug 30, 2022 15:50:00 GMT 1
Aarons gone and with Koroma close to leaving, what do we do with the lad? Fleetwood are waiting in the wings.
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Post by townarentbest on Aug 30, 2022 16:04:27 GMT 1
Aarons gone and with Koroma close to leaving, what do we do with the lad? Fleetwood are waiting in the wings. Could be a good move, he's not better than Pat Jones, so would be getting no game time at all with us. |
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Post by k1man999 on Aug 30, 2022 16:04:58 GMT 1
Aarons gone and with Koroma close to leaving, what do we do with the lad? Fleetwood are waiting in the wings. Give him a chance Until he has had an opportunity how can we really assess him. Jones was not on anyone's lips but now some think he is the savior DS will play mainly tried and tested from last year to save his job, unfortunately this will be his undoing as some of those look a bit too comfortable. |
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Post by VLP Fan Club on Aug 30, 2022 16:09:53 GMT 1
Aarons gone and with Koroma close to leaving, what do we do with the lad? Fleetwood are waiting in the wings. Suspect he'll be made to stay and be 3rd/4th choice and any injuries he could then be within a chance of making the bench. Shame for the lad but seems the most likely outcome now. |
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Post by workshyfop on Aug 30, 2022 16:19:57 GMT 1
We’ve still got Connor Mahoney, if anyone rates him down there.
Any ideas on what’s happened to Aaron Rowe? Injured again or just not fancied by the coaching staff?
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Post by VLP Fan Club on Aug 30, 2022 16:22:31 GMT 1
We’ve still got Connor Mahoney, if anyone rates him down there. Any ideas on what’s happened to Aaron Rowe? Injured again or just not fancied by the coaching staff? Fall out between player and club. |
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Post by workshyfop on Aug 30, 2022 16:36:50 GMT 1
We’ve still got Connor Mahoney, if anyone rates him down there. Any ideas on what’s happened to Aaron Rowe? Injured again or just not fancied by the coaching staff? Fall out between player and club. Shame. Looked a good prospect. |
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Post by typical on Aug 30, 2022 16:41:02 GMT 1
We’ve still got Connor Mahoney, if anyone rates him down there. Any ideas on what’s happened to Aaron Rowe? Injured again or just not fancied by the coaching staff? Fall out between player and club. This isn’t a surprise, didn’t he post something about us ‘going to lose again’ whilst we were in the prem? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2022 21:11:34 GMT 1
Aarons gone and with Koroma close to leaving, what do we do with the lad? Fleetwood are waiting in the wings. Give him a chance Until he has had an opportunity how can we really assess him. Jones was not on anyone's lips but now some think he is the savior DS will play mainly tried and tested from last year to save his job, unfortunately this will be his undoing as some of those look a bit too comfortable. Do you remember the team he put out against Millwall after the two rons went? A really young team. This season he has played Spencer, Jones, Camara and REG with Chapman as backup keeper. Not sure if Diarra is injured but I would expect to see him get some game time this season as well. I don't think it is a reluctance on Danny's part, I think the lads who will play are the ones considered good enough by the coaching staff. |
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Post by bobrobterrier on Sept 1, 2022 16:44:51 GMT 1
Harrogate loan close. Could’ve gone to fleetwood but club wanted them to cover more of his wages. 🤡
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Post by VLP Fan Club on Sept 1, 2022 16:50:51 GMT 1
Harrogate loan close. Could’ve gone to fleetwood but club wanted them to cover more of his wages. 🤡 League 2…. Thought he’d of got better then that |
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Post by ldotm on Sept 1, 2022 16:51:29 GMT 1
Harrogate loan close. Could’ve gone to fleetwood but club wanted them to cover more of his wages. 🤡 Harrogate are basically our B Team now |
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Post by tepidterrier on Sept 1, 2022 16:54:29 GMT 1
Harrogate loan close. Could’ve gone to fleetwood but club wanted them to cover more of his wages. 🤡 Harrogate are basically our B Team now isn't there a limit on loanees from one club allowed in another club's squad now? The Udinese rule |
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Sept 1, 2022 16:54:55 GMT 1
Harrogate loan close. Could’ve gone to fleetwood but club wanted them to cover more of his wages. 🤡 Shame I won’t be seeing them at Sutton tomorrow though I’m guessing he’d only be on the bench even if eligible to play. |
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