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[paullow1]

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Heading into the World Cup break, 2022 hasn't been too bad a year.

Can't believe the turnaround. A £210* outlay across the two windows should have seen Newcastle comfortably in the midtable positions, and moving away from where they have been these past 10 years or so, but to actually be mixing it with the established sides, beating many of them, and gaining 18 more points than Man Utd, and 15 points more than Chelsea since January, considering their respective spending to already much superior squads, is absolutely insane. Averaging 2 points per game for basically a full year.

*Isak, £60m of that total, has only played 3 matches, those being home draws against Bournemouth and Palace and our only defeat of the season against Liverpool, so he's barely contributed thus far, and will be 'like a new signing' when he returns.

Many won't like the source of the money, understandably, and certainly won't like the fact they are miles ahead of schedule, but Howe has done an amazing job, especially considering Joelinton, Schaar, Longstaff, Shelvey (not this season), Willock, Almiron, Wilson, even Murphy, have been integral parts of the run.

West Ham spent £150m this summer (£30m more than Newcastle) yet they are a point clear of the drop.

[nicovaesen]

Nov 13, 2022 0:22:35 GMT 1 paullow1 said:

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Heading into the World Cup break, 2022 hasn't been too bad a year.

Can't believe the turnaround. A £210* outlay across the two windows should have seen Newcastle comfortably in the midtable positions, and moving away from where they have been these past 10 years or so, but to actually be mixing it with the established sides, beating many of them, and gaining 18 more points than Man Utd, and 15 points more than Chelsea since January, considering their respective spending to already much superior squads, is absolutely insane. Averaging 2 points per game for basically a full year.

*Isak, £60m of that total, has only played 3 matches, those being home draws against Bournemouth and Palace and our only defeat of the season against Liverpool, so he's barely contributed thus far, and will be 'like a new signing' when he returns.

Many won't like the source of the money, understandably, and certainly won't like the fact they are miles ahead of schedule, but Howe has done an amazing job, especially considering Joelinton, Schaar, Longstaff, Shelvey (not this season), Willock, Almiron, Wilson, even Murphy, have been integral parts of the run.

West Ham spent £150m this summer (£30m more than Newcastle) yet they are a point clear of the drop.

You think you spaffing on about being a rich club to a club who is currently bottom of the championship is cool? Carry on taking the dirty money and celebrate fans dressed as Arabs for as long as it lasts. Hope you get as bored as the man shity lot with winning by whatever margin then looking horrified when you lose.

[themanfromatlantis]

Paul, you’re a reasonable poster on here.

But I think Newcastle and how they performed tonight, showing a load of gamesmanship, coupled with the pundits blowing smoke up your backside, are starting to make the Toon one of those clubs that have well and truly sold your soul to the devil.

I used to think you were a fair club, a great and nutcase fanbase, but you’re going to become very plastic very quickly.

Congratulations on another club who’ll fit perfectly into the franchise football of the future…

[Amigo]

Nov 13, 2022 0:27:38 GMT 1 nicovaesen said:

Nov 13, 2022 0:22:35 GMT 1 paullow1 said:

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Heading into the World Cup break, 2022 hasn't been too bad a year.

Can't believe the turnaround. A £210* outlay across the two windows should have seen Newcastle comfortably in the midtable positions, and moving away from where they have been these past 10 years or so, but to actually be mixing it with the established sides, beating many of them, and gaining 18 more points than Man Utd, and 15 points more than Chelsea since January, considering their respective spending to already much superior squads, is absolutely insane. Averaging 2 points per game for basically a full year.

*Isak, £60m of that total, has only played 3 matches, those being home draws against Bournemouth and Palace and our only defeat of the season against Liverpool, so he's barely contributed thus far, and will be 'like a new signing' when he returns.

Many won't like the source of the money, understandably, and certainly won't like the fact they are miles ahead of schedule, but Howe has done an amazing job, especially considering Joelinton, Schaar, Longstaff, Shelvey (not this season), Willock, Almiron, Wilson, even Murphy, have been integral parts of the run.

West Ham spent £150m this summer (£30m more than Newcastle) yet they are a point clear of the drop.

You think you spaffing on about being a rich club to a club who is currently bottom of the championship is cool? Carry on taking the dirty money and celebrate fans dressed as Arabs for as long as it lasts. Hope you get as bored as the man shity lot with winning by whatever margin then looking horrified when you lose.

If it was some random Newcastle fan jumping on here just to gloat then I'd agree but this poster and contributed hundreds of posts to the forum and isn't a wum. Had that post really done any harm for such a bizarre response? If you don't like it ignore it, there's no need for a rant.

They've done incredible this season, they've not bought a new team they've brought in the right players for the right positions and more importantly they've vastly improved what they already had (I say "they", largely it's down to Howe). I'm sure I heard the only 2 sides they'd lost to at home since Howe took over a year ago was Liverpool and City which is amazing really.

[space hardware]

We saw Newcastle as a rival as little as three years ago.

"Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in a while you could miss it."

[paullow1]

Nov 13, 2022 0:27:38 GMT 1 nicovaesen said:

Nov 13, 2022 0:22:35 GMT 1 paullow1 said:

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Heading into the World Cup break, 2022 hasn't been too bad a year.

Can't believe the turnaround. A £210* outlay across the two windows should have seen Newcastle comfortably in the midtable positions, and moving away from where they have been these past 10 years or so, but to actually be mixing it with the established sides, beating many of them, and gaining 18 more points than Man Utd, and 15 points more than Chelsea since January, considering their respective spending to already much superior squads, is absolutely insane. Averaging 2 points per game for basically a full year.

*Isak, £60m of that total, has only played 3 matches, those being home draws against Bournemouth and Palace and our only defeat of the season against Liverpool, so he's barely contributed thus far, and will be 'like a new signing' when he returns.

Many won't like the source of the money, understandably, and certainly won't like the fact they are miles ahead of schedule, but Howe has done an amazing job, especially considering Joelinton, Schaar, Longstaff, Shelvey (not this season), Willock, Almiron, Wilson, even Murphy, have been integral parts of the run.

West Ham spent £150m this summer (£30m more than Newcastle) yet they are a point clear of the drop.

You think you spaffing on about being a rich club to a club who is currently bottom of the championship is cool? Carry on taking the dirty money and celebrate fans dressed as Arabs for as long as it lasts. Hope you get as bored as the man shity lot with winning by whatever margin then looking horrified when you lose.

Your current league position is obviously unfortunate, although 7 points from 5 games surely shows signs of heading in the right direction, but it's also not too relevant to this particular thread, and it's not like the two clubs are bitter rivals or anything. I was just adding an update to an already long running thread with 800+ replies as the league is just about to go on a 6 week for the World Cup. Sorry.

[Orinoco]

I like Eddie Howe , he is a good manager, he has also proved he doesn't need an open wallet to build a successful team, loved Brentfords win today at money city.
The silly money spent our days is ruining the game any proper footie fan can see that.

[Orinoco]

Nov 13, 2022 0:39:54 GMT 1 Amigo said:

Nov 13, 2022 0:27:38 GMT 1 nicovaesen said:

You think you spaffing on about being a rich club to a club who is currently bottom of the championship is cool? Carry on taking the dirty money and celebrate fans dressed as Arabs for as long as it lasts. Hope you get as bored as the man shity lot with winning by whatever margin then looking horrified when you lose.

If it was some random Newcastle fan jumping on here just to gloat then I'd agree but this poster and contributed hundreds of posts to the forum and isn't a wum. Had that post really done any harm for such a bizarre response? If you don't like it ignore it, there's no need for a rant.

They've done incredible this season, they've not bought a new team they've brought in the right players for the right positions and more importantly they've vastly improved what they already had (I say "they", largely it's down to Howe). I'm sure I heard the only 2 sides they'd lost to at home since Howe took over a year ago was Liverpool and City which is amazing really.

I agree, paullow is a good poster on here, Newcastle haven't gone mad splashing the cash, they have a good manager who has spent well. Howe will be next England manager IMO. Probably by January!!

[runner76]

Just be amazing to see the Top cabal break. Love to see Newcastle break in .

[Terrier Ramone]

I've always had a soft spot for Newcastle, my big concern is that it's probably only a matter of time that a lot of their superb fanbase are priced out of season tickets there.

[themanfromatlantis]

Nov 13, 2022 2:43:42 GMT 1 runner76 said:

Just be amazing to see the Top cabal break. Love to see Newcastle break in .

Yes, and to see it happen with a more traditional on the field manner, as opposed to a club who’ve bought a ticket to the top table.

[benhomly]

Nov 13, 2022 1:32:10 GMT 1 Orinoco said:

Nov 13, 2022 0:39:54 GMT 1 Amigo said:

If it was some random Newcastle fan jumping on here just to gloat then I'd agree but this poster and contributed hundreds of posts to the forum and isn't a wum. Had that post really done any harm for such a bizarre response? If you don't like it ignore it, there's no need for a rant.

They've done incredible this season, they've not bought a new team they've brought in the right players for the right positions and more importantly they've vastly improved what they already had (I say "they", largely it's down to Howe). I'm sure I heard the only 2 sides they'd lost to at home since Howe took over a year ago was Liverpool and City which is amazing really.

I agree, paullow is a good poster on here, Newcastle haven't gone mad splashing the cash, they have a good manager who has spent well. Howe will be next England manager IMO. Probably by January!!

He might be one day but can’t see it in January should Southgate balls it up at the World Cup. Why would he leave a presumably much better paid job at this stage of his career? More chance of Potter if Chelsea lose patience with him but can’t see that either. They’ll probably stick with Southgate when we bow out meekly at the 1/4 final stage.

[overtonterrierspirit]

They must be delighted with the work Howe is doing.
Irrespective of the owners, he’s built a team which contains players like Willock, Longstaff and Murphy who are playing out of their skins.
In addition to this big money buys like Joelinton and Almiron who were previously being regarded as flops now look sensational players.

[drewden]

I think it is great to see other clubs coming on board and rattling the cages of the ever boring top 6 clubs dominating, was great to see Brentford smashing City yesterday.

[araucaria]

Be fair; they haven't won a trophy of any kind since 1969 (and that competition doesn't exist any more); their last domestic success was in 1955 and when they last won the league it prevented the team finishing second from winning it for a fourth time in a row. Those Arabs are obviously committed to a bit of levelling up.

[sabailand]

Nov 13, 2022 0:27:38 GMT 1 nicovaesen said:

Nov 13, 2022 0:22:35 GMT 1 paullow1 said:

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Heading into the World Cup break, 2022 hasn't been too bad a year.

Can't believe the turnaround. A £210* outlay across the two windows should have seen Newcastle comfortably in the midtable positions, and moving away from where they have been these past 10 years or so, but to actually be mixing it with the established sides, beating many of them, and gaining 18 more points than Man Utd, and 15 points more than Chelsea since January, considering their respective spending to already much superior squads, is absolutely insane. Averaging 2 points per game for basically a full year.

*Isak, £60m of that total, has only played 3 matches, those being home draws against Bournemouth and Palace and our only defeat of the season against Liverpool, so he's barely contributed thus far, and will be 'like a new signing' when he returns.

Many won't like the source of the money, understandably, and certainly won't like the fact they are miles ahead of schedule, but Howe has done an amazing job, especially considering Joelinton, Schaar, Longstaff, Shelvey (not this season), Willock, Almiron, Wilson, even Murphy, have been integral parts of the run.

West Ham spent £150m this summer (£30m more than Newcastle) yet they are a point clear of the drop.

You think you spaffing on about being a rich club to a club who is currently bottom of the championship is cool? Carry on taking the dirty money and celebrate fans dressed as Arabs for as long as it lasts. Hope you get as bored as the man shity lot with winning by whatever margin then looking horrified when you lose.

Bit unfair there mate, paullow1 is a decent poster who dosnt come on here on the wind up, im not jealous of Newcastle but i wish we had those Arab millions, where we are is a fkn fantastic alternative isnt it.

[softboy]

Let’s have a separate thread for every league club. That way the ones above us in the football pyramid could come on here and gloat and the ones below us can say how they wish they were as successful as HTAFC.

[ram]

Nice to see Paullow has re-surfaced,it got me thinking where the other Newcastle fan who posted on here has got to. Used an emoji of a chap smoking ,went by the moniker It,s me Mick.

[ringdisco]

Nov 13, 2022 11:55:29 GMT 1 sabailand said:

Nov 13, 2022 0:27:38 GMT 1 nicovaesen said:

You think you spaffing on about being a rich club to a club who is currently bottom of the championship is cool? Carry on taking the dirty money and celebrate fans dressed as Arabs for as long as it lasts. Hope you get as bored as the man shity lot with winning by whatever margin then looking horrified when you lose.

Bit unfair there mate, paullow1 is a decent poster who dosnt come on here on the wind up, im not jealous of Newcastle but i wish we had those Arab millions, where we are is a fkn fantastic alternative isnt it.

Rather the club folded that have Saudi money. The worst part of it, is maybe all the shithead fans running around with hijabs etc.

[sabailand]

Nov 13, 2022 12:47:12 GMT 1 ringdisco said:

Nov 13, 2022 11:55:29 GMT 1 sabailand said:

Bit unfair there mate, paullow1 is a decent poster who dosnt come on here on the wind up, im not jealous of Newcastle but i wish we had those Arab millions, where we are is a fkn fantastic alternative isnt it.

Rather the club folded that have Saudi money. The worst part of it, is maybe all the shithead fans running around with hijabs etc.

Rather the club folded, are you serious?

[rockwall]

Nov 13, 2022 12:47:12 GMT 1 ringdisco said:

Nov 13, 2022 11:55:29 GMT 1 sabailand said:

Bit unfair there mate, paullow1 is a decent poster who dosnt come on here on the wind up, im not jealous of Newcastle but i wish we had those Arab millions, where we are is a fkn fantastic alternative isnt it.

Rather the club folded that have Saudi money. The worst part of it, is maybe all the shithead fans running around with hijabs etc.

Give your head a shake. Utter horrible comment.
Sounds a bit more like jealousy from you. You absolute card.

[rothwellterrier]

Not every Newcastle fan is onboard with the new owners.

[paullow1]

Nov 13, 2022 20:22:41 GMT 1 rothwellterrier said:

Not every Newcastle fan is onboard with the new owners.

Fair play to them if they feel that strongly about it. One of the local YouTubers interviewed them about it yesterday:





I can truthfully say though out of everyone I know personally - relatives, friends, colleagues / associates, clients etc. I literally don't know a single person who is against the takeover and currently not happy with where the club is, and where it is heading.

[themanfromatlantis]

If you spend a nett £500m in the next 2 seasons to secure a CL spot, will you think that’s been hard earned and deserved?

Or will it feel a bit tainted?

[aloadofdbullocks]

Win at all costs. Nah not for me.

Howe is doing great at moment but to take it to the real contending level they are gonna need the Saudi state to cough up big style.

[turbo2]

Nov 13, 2022 23:19:02 GMT 1 themanfromatlantis said:

If you spend a nett £500m in the next 2 seasons to secure a CL spot, will you think that’s been hard earned and deserved?

Or will it feel a bit tainted?

I like paullow. Always been a very level headed contributor to this site.

The big clubs moaning about them trying to break into the top 6 is laughable. As if they’ve not just been chucking money at it for years.

Most of the rich folk backing these clubs can be questioned on how they’ve made their money.

Personally I’d love someone with bags of cash to try something with us.

[paullow1]

Nov 13, 2022 23:19:02 GMT 1 themanfromatlantis said:

If you spend a nett £500m in the next 2 seasons to secure a CL spot, will you think that’s been hard earned and deserved?

Or will it feel a bit tainted?

At the moment, I don't think our outlay is anything particularly crazy, certainly in relative terms. £115m during the 2021/22 season (summer and January) and £120 (thus far) during 2022/23 is kind of what you'd expect from a club looking to finish upper mid table, and miles away from some of the figures we have seen from the established 'bigger' teams in recent years.

As I say, West Ham spent £150 this summer, over £100m on Paqueta, Scamacca, and Aguerd alone, Wolves spent more than us this summer, and while it's cooled down this past year or so, Everton have spent over £550m since Mishori came on board in 2016, so our current spend levels are nothing unusual in this era, and to be currently 3rd in the table, and being in and around the top 4 over a 34 match period throughout 2022, massively outperforming the likes of Man Utd and Chelsea (as shown on the above graph) is simply astonishing, and IMO far more to do with the coaching of existing players, in addition to some shrewd necessary signings, to generate a surprise winning formula, far better than anyone could have realistically expected.

Going forward, while I don't think we'll have that type of outlay you mention, and expect it to continue to be more measured and sustainable, if, hypothetically, we were to drop that type of money in such a short period of time then I could certainly understand away fans frustrations and the 'oil club', 'bloody money', 'sold your soul' accusations, and it possibly would feel less deserved than what it currently does at the moment, but then again, it's not my money, and we've already seen two English clubs experience an enormous injection of wealth in the past 20 years and subsequently surpass Newcastle in terms of overall trophies, all time / Premier League points, general stature etc., so if we were wanting to compete with those (potentially fellow) inflated clubs as well as the 3 biggest clubs in England on a consistent and long term basis, and to get back to the regular top 2/3/4/5/6 finishes like we experienced between 1993 and 2004, then the way the game has gone, we probably would need that type of outlay, or close to it, and as long as there was the same admirable effort and commitment from the players like we saw yesterday, a buzzing atmosphere around the city and stadium, and a continued general connection and togetherness from the staff, players, and fans, I think I could just about live with that more tainted (potential) success, should it materialise.

[turbo2]

Chelsea and citeh both classed as top 6 clubs. Both nowhere until rich folk got hold of them 20 years ago. Don’t think until the money turned up either could class themselves as bigger than Newcastle.

Some folk have principles that would say they’d rather be utter rubbish than accept this money. The vast majority I would suggest don’t care where the money comes from.

The biggest problem is it’s just another club with boat loads of cash, transfer prices rise, wages rise and yet there’s still only the same number of trophies

[Captainslapper]

Id say Newcastle are a bigger club than both Man City and Chelsea in terms of their core fanbase.
Watching the Brentford game on Saturday it was noticeable how many empty seats there were at the Etihad.
Lot of their new fans obviously not bothered about a game against 'the likes of ' Brentford.

that doesnt happen at Newcastle even when theyre struggling, never mind when theyre the dominant force in the game.

What I like about Newcastle,, as appose to Chelsea. Arsenal, Spurs, Man Utd, Liverpool....is that theyre just a much bigger version of Town, in that pretty much all their fanbase comes from that place. Its a 'local club'.. just a very big one.
Maybe that will change over time if they become dominant.. It will be doing at Man City Id guess.

Since moving north I know quite a few Newcastle fans and none of then could care less about the source of the money they now have.
Think that would be the same at every club.. the vast majority wouldn't care. If a Saudi prince bought Town I wouldn't.

There'll always be people who do and thats fair enough, some people have very strong principles, though I wonder how they get through life if they insist on not personally doing business with ( buying products from ) any nation who are guilty of some level of persecution, including bumping people off.
That must be a huge daily challenge!

[Mastercracker]

Nov 14, 2022 9:55:32 GMT 1 Captainslapper said:

Id say Newcastle are a bigger club than both Man City and Chelsea in terms of their core fanbase.
Watching the Brentford game on Saturday it was noticeable how many empty seats there were at the Etihad.
Lot of their new fans obviously not bothered about a game against 'the likes of ' Brentford.

that doesnt happen at Newcastle even when theyre struggling, never mind when theyre the dominant force in the game.

What I like about Newcastle,, as appose to Chelsea. Arsenal, Spurs, Man Utd, Liverpool....is that theyre just a much bigger version of Town, in that pretty much all their fanbase comes from that place. Its a 'local club'.. just a very big one.
Maybe that will change over time if they become dominant.. It will be doing at Man City Id guess.

Since moving north I know quite a few Newcastle fans and none of then could care less about the source of the money they now have.
Think that would be the same at every club.. the vast majority wouldn't care. If a Saudi prince bought Town I wouldn't.

There'll always be people who do and thats fair enough, some people have very strong principles, though I wonder how they get through life if they insist on not personally doing business with ( buying products from ) any nation who are guilty of some level of persecution, including bumping people off.
That must be a huge daily challenge!

Think that's still similar with Man City tbh, it just that their core is probably 35k-40k rather than 50k-55k. You see the odd rare Citeh shirt on kids round here in the Manc side of Hudds but nothing compared to Man U, Liverpool, Arsenal and fucking PSG

Man City should probably have left their ground as it was around the 40k mark, although the derision they get as though they were previously some kind of Town size club is silly and seems to be driven by Liverpool - who as we knows empty seats are just full of tourists instead for games against us/brentford.

Happy for Newcastle or anyone to upset the status quo tbh, as they are all a bunch of tossers. Also helps that my Mrs is a Newcastle fan so I now get roped into watching a decent side on TV rather than one that's barely better than my own