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Post by Matt1908 on Aug 3, 2022 12:28:00 GMT 1
Snoozed and loosed on the mcatee deal. That's 8 targets now missed out on. So so unprofessional! For a club like ours, working on a budget like ours that is so, so shit. Just so we can keep a track on progress etc do you have any names? Presuming: James Mcatee Carlton Morris Sorinola*? Others surely mentioned elsewhere that I have missed whilst dipping in and out on here
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Post by King Curtis on Aug 3, 2022 12:30:03 GMT 1
We might have been at the time. Other clubs putting in better proposals, the departure of the head coach & the arrival of Anjorin may have pushed us down the pecking order. As much as I'd have loved to see him here, I just don't see where he fits in the side. Unless DS is going to go with a more narrow system, where would he play. Rudoni and Tino aren't wingers and neither is he. Why have we tried to 'hijack' a deal today then? Or is that just a line we've been fed to appease folk?
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Post by jqhtfc on Aug 3, 2022 12:30:22 GMT 1
Snoozed and loosed on the mcatee deal. That's 8 targets now missed out on. So so unprofessional! For a club like ours, working on a budget like ours that is so, so shit. Just so we can keep a track on progress etc do you have any names? Presuming: James Mcatee Carlton Morris Sorinola*? Others surely mentioned elsewhere that I have missed whilst dipping in and out on here Flemming Josh Laurent Rinomhota
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Post by Amigo on Aug 3, 2022 12:37:14 GMT 1
Snoozed and loosed on the mcatee deal. That's 8 targets now missed out on. So so unprofessional! Ridiculous to say it's unprofessional to miss out on (your made up figure) 8 targets. Chelsea are an obvious example, how many targets have they reportedly missed out on this summer? So is that 8 players we definitely wanted to sign and have in the squad now then because that would have given us a bloody big squad! Or is it 8 players you've seen us linked with on twitter that have gone elsewhere?
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Post by King Curtis on Aug 3, 2022 12:41:41 GMT 1
Club/Examiner have deffo fed us a line this morning.
Alan Nixon has actually said nothing of the sort about Mcatee to Town today.
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Post by Gold Coast Terrier on Aug 3, 2022 12:44:28 GMT 1
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Post by 4 pts on Aug 3, 2022 13:01:18 GMT 1
As much as I'd have loved to see him here, I just don't see where he fits in the side. Unless DS is going to go with a more narrow system, where would he play. Rudoni and Tino aren't wingers and neither is he. Why have we tried to 'hijack' a deal today then? Or is that just a line we've been fed to appease folk? Just going off what we witnessed the other day. I know its only one game but Schofield seems to play a wide formation. I don't see him dropping Sorba (plus Mahoney) to accommodate a narrow system to fit 3-4 central players in the team. If we brought him in, we would then have 3 similar ish players in Rudoni, Tino and Mcatee. I suppose you could also add Holmes to that as well. As I said, I would love him here. He seems highly rated at City and their fans seem to give him some glowing reports, but I just don't see him fitting our style of play, which I don't like btw
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Post by prepare on Aug 3, 2022 13:03:10 GMT 1
Why have we tried to 'hijack' a deal today then? Or is that just a line we've been fed to appease folk? Just going off what we witnessed the other day. I know its only one game but Schofield seems to play a wide formation. I don't see him dropping Sorba (plus Mahoney) to accommodate a narrow system to fit 3-4 central players in the team. If we brought him in, we would then have 3 similar ish players in Rudoni, Tino and Mcatee. I suppose you could also add Holmes to that as well.Ā As I said, I would love him here. He seems highly rated at City and their fans seem to give him some glowing reports, but I just don't see him fitting our style of play, which I don't like btwĀ load of bullshine aboutmcatee
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2022 13:15:48 GMT 1
Mcatee is not actually over yet, Paul Harsley is important in this deal he knows James well and a last minute conversation has delayed the announcement of the move to Sheffield United.
I actually expect the deal to Sheffield Utd to happen but there is a little doubt and we have had conversations in the last 24 hours.
The biggest positive is even if we donāt make this signing we are still on the look out for more quality additions.
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Post by ambryboy on Aug 3, 2022 13:37:56 GMT 1
Mcatee is not actually over yet, Paul Harsley is important in this deal he knows James well and a last minute conversation has delayed the announcement of the move to Sheffield United. I actually expect the deal to Sheffield Utd to happen but there is a little doubt and we have had conversations in the last 24 hours. The biggest positive is even if we donāt make this signing we are still on the look out for more quality additions. To add to our growing portfolio of ones who we were so close to signing but that we couldn't quite get over the line.
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Aug 3, 2022 13:51:45 GMT 1
Snoozed and loosed on the mcatee deal. That's 8 targets now missed out on. So so unprofessional!
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Aug 3, 2022 13:58:41 GMT 1
Snoozed and loosed on the mcatee deal. That's 8 targets now missed out on. So so unprofessional! For a club like ours, working on a budget like ours that is so, so shit. Just so we can keep a track on progress etc do you have any names? Presuming: James Mcatee Carlton Morris Sorinola*? Others surely mentioned elsewhere that I have missed whilst dipping in and out on here Do you think we should have paid Ā£2m for Carlton Morris? Do you think we should have signed McAtee and Rudoni and Tino? Whilst also having Thomas, Holmes, Koroma, Mahoney, Aarons, Danny Grant, Aaron Rowe etc etc Sorinola has to my knowledge not been mentioned on here, care to explain what went on there? Some people need to get a grip and realise that we are going to lose out on targets because we have a tight budget. It's not 'so so shit', it's basic economics.
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Post by Matt1908 on Aug 3, 2022 14:03:56 GMT 1
When a club is working on a limited budget and then identifies talent that fits within that budget it is surely imperative to actually process some of those transactions as the pond we are fishing in is much smaller than other clubs in our league. It is frustrating as we were so close last year and to see us going backwards just reminds me of the 'sleepwalking into relegation' quote. *That isn't me saying we will get relegated btw.
What genuinely is our ambition this year? Is it to break even? Reduce debt? play attacking/positive football? Top 6? Avoid relegation?
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Post by Matt1908 on Aug 3, 2022 14:04:43 GMT 1
For a club like ours, working on a budget like ours that is so, so shit. Just so we can keep a track on progress etc do you have any names? Presuming: James Mcatee Carlton Morris Sorinola*? Others surely mentioned elsewhere that I have missed whilst dipping in and out on here Do you think we should have paid Ā£2m for Carlton Morris? Do you think we should have signed McAtee and Rudoni and Tino? Whilst also having Thomas, Holmes, Koroma, Mahoney, Aarons, Danny Grant, Aaron Rowe etc etc Sorinola has to my knowledge not been mentioned on here, care to explain what went on there? Some people need to get a grip and realise that we are going to lose out on targets because we have a tight budget. It's not 'so so shit', it's basic economics. Also Sorinola is the LB at Swansea, he was mentioned on here - I don't know how genuine the interest was hence the *?
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Aug 3, 2022 14:33:45 GMT 1
When a club is working on a limited budget and then identifies talent that fits within that budget it is surely imperative to actually process some of those transactions as the pond we are fishing in is much smaller than other clubs in our league. It is frustrating as we were so close last year and to see us going backwards just reminds me of the 'sleepwalking into relegation' quote. *That isn't me saying we will get relegated btw. What genuinely is our ambition this year? Is it to break even? Reduce debt? play attacking/positive football? Top 6? Avoid relegation? How do you know that these players fit within our budget? Imagine us being a guy at an auction with Ā£100 that he wants to spend on a vase. He already bought a vase for Ā£20 and paid Ā£50 to borrow another vase for a year. Should he be spending another Ā£100 on a third vase when actually his chair has just broken and he has nothing to sit on? Wouldn't it be better to buy a chair rather than that really nice vase? Especially as he now has 7 vases and 3 of them will have to stay in the cupboard? Does that mean he's 'so so shit' at buying vases, or just that he's priced out of buying that particular vase? Or he's already got too many vases I presume you were equally saying that the club was 'so so great' for signing a Japanese international left-back that's going to the World Cup? Is he not going to be better than this lad that's gone to Swansea? Or Rudoni or Anjorin?
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Aug 3, 2022 14:36:39 GMT 1
When a club is working on a limited budget and then identifies talent that fits within that budget it is surely imperative to actually process some of those transactions as the pond we are fishing in is much smaller than other clubs in our league. It is frustrating as we were so close last year and to see us going backwards just reminds me of the 'sleepwalking into relegation' quote. *That isn't me saying we will get relegated btw. What genuinely is our ambition this year? Is it to break even? Reduce debt? play attacking/positive football? Top 6? Avoid relegation? How do you know that these players fit within our budget? Imagine us being a guy at an auction with Ā£100 that he wants to spend on a vase. He already bought a vase for Ā£20 and paid Ā£50 to borrow another vase for a year. Should he be spending another Ā£100 on a third vase when actually his chair has just broken and he has nothing to sit on? Wouldn't it be better to buy a chair rather than that really nice vase? Especially as he now has 7 vases and 3 of them will have to stay in the cupboard? Does that mean he's 'so so shit' at buying vases, or just that he's priced out of buying that particular vase? Or he's already got too many vases I presume you were equally saying that the club was 'so so great' for signing a Japanese international left-back that's going to the World Cup? Is he not going to be better than this lad that's gone to Swansea? Or Rudoni or Anjorin? I'd be questioning why he's ended up with a broken chair when he appeared to have a cast iron throne to sit on when he arrived at the auction.
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Post by Matt1908 on Aug 3, 2022 14:39:51 GMT 1
I will give credit to the club where it is due, the signings of Yuta, Rudoni and Anjorin appears to be excellent bits of business.
The rest is conjecture as you say but there is an element of frustration at where we were and where we 'seemingly' are now, surely you can recognise that?
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Post by Teddington Ted on Aug 3, 2022 14:55:19 GMT 1
If we have to go much further down our list weāll end up re-signing Jason Puncheon.
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Post by bigfatmonkey on Aug 3, 2022 14:59:41 GMT 1
When a club is working on a limited budget and then identifies talent that fits within that budget it is surely imperative to actually process some of those transactions as the pond we are fishing in is much smaller than other clubs in our league. It is frustrating as we were so close last year and to see us going backwards just reminds me of the 'sleepwalking into relegation' quote. *That isn't me saying we will get relegated btw. What genuinely is our ambition this year? Is it to break even? Reduce debt? play attacking/positive football? Top 6? Avoid relegation? How do you know that these players fit within our budget? Imagine us being a guy at an auction with Ā£100 that he wants to spend on a vase. He already bought a vase for Ā£20 and paid Ā£50 to borrow another vase for a year. Should he be spending another Ā£100 on a third vase when actually his chair has just broken and he has nothing to sit on? Wouldn't it be better to buy a chair rather than that really nice vase? Especially as he now has 7 vases and 3 of them will have to stay in the cupboard? Does that mean he's 'so so shit' at buying vases, or just that he's priced out of buying that particular vase? Or he's already got too many vases I presume you were equally saying that the club was 'so so great' for signing a Japanese international left-back that's going to the World Cup? Is he not going to be better than this lad that's gone to Swansea? Or Rudoni or Anjorin? We also had the largest squad in the whole EFL last season, so it's not like we're scrimping on numbers when it comes to playing staff. If anyone wants the facts of that, check the squad registration lists published by the EFL. We maxed out on the 25 man squad then had 33 registered contracted u21 players (think this is is B Team / youths excluding those just on scholarships). A total of 58 players, which is three more than the second most, QPR.
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Aug 3, 2022 15:52:17 GMT 1
Snoozed and loosed on the mcatee deal. That's 8 targets now missed out on. So so unprofessional! Second time I've seen it in this thread. What does " " mean? Internet says Wrong Side Driving Friday which makes no sense. I'm getting too old for all this sh*t.
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Post by King Curtis on Aug 3, 2022 15:58:25 GMT 1
Second time I've seen it in this thread. What does " " mean? Internet says Wrong Side Driving Friday which makes no sense. I'm getting too old for all this sh*t. Switch to desktop version and you can see the emoji mate š
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Post by iangreaves on Aug 3, 2022 16:00:10 GMT 1
A cynic may suspect the club waited until the player had sorted another club then suggested we tried to sign him but just missed out.
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Post by boooothy on Aug 3, 2022 16:03:40 GMT 1
If we have to go much further down our list weāll end up re-signing Jason Puncheon. Siewart, Puncheon and every decision made onwards in that season. Every single person associated should have resigned on mass that summer and let us throw rotten tomatoes at them.
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Aug 3, 2022 16:40:40 GMT 1
Second time I've seen it in this thread. What does " " mean? Internet says Wrong Side Driving Friday which makes no sense. I'm getting too old for all this sh*t. It's an emoji that appears on desktop but not on mobile - it's the little guy holiday up a board saying "source?" on it.
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Post by unclembenza on Aug 3, 2022 16:50:15 GMT 1
I will give credit to the club where it is due, the signings of Yuta, Rudoni and Anjorin appears to be excellent bits of business. The rest is conjecture as you say but there is an element of frustration at where we were and where we 'seemingly' are now, surely you can recognise that? Never seen yuta play how can you say that?? Rudoni is average Anjorin was poor last year
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Post by Ianster on Aug 3, 2022 16:56:22 GMT 1
I will give credit to the club where it is due, the signings of Yuta, Rudoni and Anjorin appears to be excellent bits of business. The rest is conjecture as you say but there is an element of frustration at where we were and where we 'seemingly' are now, surely you can recognise that? Never seen yuta play how can you say that?? Rudoni is average Anjorin was poor last year Rudoni isnāt average heās a good young player!!!
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Aug 3, 2022 16:57:41 GMT 1
I will give credit to the club where it is due, the signings of Yuta, Rudoni and Anjorin appears to be excellent bits of business. The rest is conjecture as you say but there is an element of frustration at where we were and where we 'seemingly' are now, surely you can recognise that? Never seen yuta play how can you say that?? Rudoni is average Anjorin was poor last year What are you basing Rudoni being āaverageā on? How often have you seen him play to say that?
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Post by salfordterrier on Aug 3, 2022 17:02:09 GMT 1
I will give credit to the club where it is due, the signings of Yuta, Rudoni and Anjorin appears to be excellent bits of business. The rest is conjecture as you say but there is an element of frustration at where we were and where we 'seemingly' are now, surely you can recognise that? Never seen yuta play how can you say that?? Rudoni is average Anjorin was poor last year I hope our coaching team donāt make the same rash judgements as you do after only less than 30 minutes of evidence.
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Post by 4 pts on Aug 3, 2022 17:55:44 GMT 1
I will give credit to the club where it is due, the signings of Yuta, Rudoni and Anjorin appears to be excellent bits of business. The rest is conjecture as you say but there is an element of frustration at where we were and where we 'seemingly' are now, surely you can recognise that? Never seen yuta play how can you say that?? Rudoni is average Anjorin was poor last year Nobody knows if Rudoni will make the step up, but to call him average is out of order. If reports are correct that he cost around Ā£600k after scoring a quarter of Wimbledons total league goals last season and assisted 5, then it isn't bad business. Twine cost Ā£4-5m and didn't play in a shithouse side that only won 6 games in the league. At least give the lad a chance and if Schofield plays him in his preferred position, then hopefully he'll kick on to another level
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Post by COWSHEDPHIL on Aug 3, 2022 18:46:48 GMT 1
Rudoni looks like he has some spark to me. I can see him being a great signing. It's the centre midfield and centre attack that's alarming.
Did Holmes even touch the ball in the first half? Not all his fault of course, but we are woefully weak in this area.
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