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Post by ACW on Aug 13, 2022 18:34:28 GMT 1
It's you who's talking shite. That game is the closest thing I've ever seen to a team throwing a game in all my years watching Town. We didn't give a fuck. Are you saying we tried to win the game? Zero point. No idea what that means. If you think we tried to win the game in question then you can't have been there. |
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Post by Terry Jacko on Aug 13, 2022 18:39:03 GMT 1
Could not make out a single word he said due to the sound system in the main stand where I was, either that or he was absolutely hammered.
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Post by omegasupreme on Aug 13, 2022 19:11:15 GMT 1
No idea what that means. If you think we tried to win the game in question then you can't have been there. It means there’s no point us discussing. There were a lot of games towards the end of that season that we played poor. However that doesn’t detract from the fact that Warnocks team played some really good football against us that day (I was there). It contrasts too much with the stereotype that people like to subscribe to. |
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Post by ACW on Aug 13, 2022 19:35:39 GMT 1
No idea what that means. If you think we tried to win the game in question then you can't have been there. It means there’s no point us discussing. There were a lot of games towards the end of that season that we played poor. However that doesn’t detract from the fact that Warnocks team played some really good football against us that day (I was there). It contrasts too much with the stereotype that people like to subscribe to. You are right, there is no more point discussing this. And I was there too. |
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Post by mosher on Aug 14, 2022 11:40:06 GMT 1
Warnock to Danny "The footballs too exciting and attractive at the moment, here's what you should do........" Always thought the notion of Warnock playing boring football was completely mythical. I remember him bringing his Leeds team in 2012 and we lost 2-4. Then in 2017 (promotion season), brought his Cardiff team and we lost 0-3 from memory. Both played us off the park. I would say he’s a pragmatic winner if anything. Exactly Omega, and he's still getting crap about the style of football when he was OUR manager. 93 was my first regular season as a ST holder and that season and the season after were anything but dull. Some of the wing play and centre forward play was outstanding. Also think it's a myth it was all long ball; we got the ball forward quickly but it wasn't just hooooooof. Hefele and others are loved for their diagonal passes and long PASSES under Wagner, which is precisely what the team did under Warnock IMO! |
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Post by omegasupreme on Aug 14, 2022 16:42:29 GMT 1
Always thought the notion of Warnock playing boring football was completely mythical. I remember him bringing his Leeds team in 2012 and we lost 2-4. Then in 2017 (promotion season), brought his Cardiff team and we lost 0-3 from memory. Both played us off the park. I would say he’s a pragmatic winner if anything. Exactly Omega, and he's still getting crap about the style of football when he was OUR manager. 93 was my first regular season as a ST holder and that season and the season after were anything but dull. Some of the wing play and centre forward play was outstanding. Also think it's a myth it was all long ball; we got the ball forward quickly but it wasn't just hooooooof. Hefele and others are loved for their diagonal passes and long PASSES under Wagner, which is precisely what the team did under Warnock IMO! Completely agree. |
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Post by Junior & Onuora on Aug 14, 2022 16:59:46 GMT 1
Always thought the notion of Warnock playing boring football was completely mythical. I remember him bringing his Leeds team in 2012 and we lost 2-4. Then in 2017 (promotion season), brought his Cardiff team and we lost 0-3 from memory. Both played us off the park. I would say he’s a pragmatic winner if anything. Exactly Omega, and he's still getting crap about the style of football when he was OUR manager. 93 was my first regular season as a ST holder and that season and the season after were anything but dull. Some of the wing play and centre forward play was outstanding. Also think it's a myth it was all long ball; we got the ball forward quickly but it wasn't just hooooooof. Hefele and others are loved for their diagonal passes and long PASSES under Wagner, which is precisely what the team did under Warnock IMO! Admit it, you loved that kick-off routine when Jeppo and Boothy would pretend to talk to each other and then we'd knock it to Paul Reid on the left wing... EVERY FOOKING TIME |
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Post by King Curtis on Aug 14, 2022 17:20:35 GMT 1
Warnock to Danny "The footballs too exciting and attractive at the moment, here's what you should do........" Always thought the notion of Warnock playing boring football was completely mythical. I remember him bringing his Leeds team in 2012 and we lost 2-4. Then in 2017 (promotion season), brought his Cardiff team and we lost 0-3 from memory. Both played us off the park. I would say he’s a pragmatic winner if anything. I think it is mythical tbf. I don't think Warnock sides have ever been labelled as boring... Or have they? And I've missed it? |
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Post by ldr on Aug 14, 2022 18:20:20 GMT 1
I think his main strength was delivering simple messages. He knew his players inside out and he knew the opposition better. He gave personal messages to each player and a collective ‘let’s get stuck right in’ to the team as a whole.
If you didn’t follow those personal instructions….however, you still get the feeling that lads would run through a burning forest covered in petrol for him.
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Post by Mastercracker on Aug 14, 2022 19:51:55 GMT 1
Exactly Omega, and he's still getting crap about the style of football when he was OUR manager. 93 was my first regular season as a ST holder and that season and the season after were anything but dull. Some of the wing play and centre forward play was outstanding. Also think it's a myth it was all long ball; we got the ball forward quickly but it wasn't just hooooooof. Hefele and others are loved for their diagonal passes and long PASSES under Wagner, which is precisely what the team did under Warnock IMO! Admit it, you loved that kick-off routine when Jeppo and Boothy would pretend to talk to each other and then we'd knock it to Paul Reid on the left wing... EVERY FOOKING TIME Funny thing is everybody kicks off similar to this now, even Man City. Pass it back to a central defender, launch it diagonally to try to gain early territory. |
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Post by Orinoco on Aug 14, 2022 19:59:59 GMT 1
Is Simon Webster coming back?
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Post by mosher on Aug 15, 2022 8:38:43 GMT 1
Exactly Omega, and he's still getting crap about the style of football when he was OUR manager. 93 was my first regular season as a ST holder and that season and the season after were anything but dull. Some of the wing play and centre forward play was outstanding. Also think it's a myth it was all long ball; we got the ball forward quickly but it wasn't just hooooooof. Hefele and others are loved for their diagonal passes and long PASSES under Wagner, which is precisely what the team did under Warnock IMO! Admit it, you loved that kick-off routine when Jeppo and Boothy would pretend to talk to each other and then we'd knock it to Paul Reid on the left wing... EVERY FOOKING TIME Hahaha no, actually, that used to frustrate the hell out of me. Would have been okay if Reidy (or Dalts when he played there) actually took control of the ball once it was fired towards them  |
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Post by mosher on Aug 15, 2022 16:08:15 GMT 1
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Post by Captainslapper on Aug 15, 2022 16:32:21 GMT 1
Always thought the notion of Warnock playing boring football was completely mythical. I remember him bringing his Leeds team in 2012 and we lost 2-4. Then in 2017 (promotion season), brought his Cardiff team and we lost 0-3 from memory. Both played us off the park. I would say he’s a pragmatic winner if anything. Exactly Omega, and he's still getting crap about the style of football when he was OUR manager. 93 was my first regular season as a ST holder and that season and the season after were anything but dull. Some of the wing play and centre forward play was outstanding. Also think it's a myth it was all long ball; we got the ball forward quickly but it wasn't just hooooooof. Hefele and others are loved for their diagonal passes and long PASSES under Wagner, which is precisely what the team did under Warnock IMO! The first season under Warnock was dreadful I thought. That was probably the worst team I can remember for town, Even worse than Wadsworths IMO. At least it was up until March. Can remember going to a game about February at Leeds Road. We were 2nd bottom and we were playing the team at the bottom. Might have been Brighton and we got cuffed 1-3 in front of about 4500 fans. Utter shite it was. Then we somehow did well in the auto glass thing and that spurred us on in the league from nowhere. We won away at Stockport in the QF 1-0 despite being backs to the wall throughout. They'd just hammered us in the league but we somehow won that day as Stockport and Alun Armstrong in particular missed glorious chance after glorious chance. And the rest as they say is history, but if wed lost that night in that cup we'd have gone down IMO. Started at the new stadium in the 4th tier without Warnock probably. |
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Post by shawsie on Aug 16, 2022 1:19:43 GMT 1
Exactly Omega, and he's still getting crap about the style of football when he was OUR manager. 93 was my first regular season as a ST holder and that season and the season after were anything but dull. Some of the wing play and centre forward play was outstanding. Also think it's a myth it was all long ball; we got the ball forward quickly but it wasn't just hooooooof. Hefele and others are loved for their diagonal passes and long PASSES under Wagner, which is precisely what the team did under Warnock IMO! The first season under Warnock was dreadful I thought. That was probably the worst team I can remember for town, Even worse than Wadsworths IMO. At least it was up until March. Can remember going to a game about February at Leeds Road. We were 2nd bottom and we were playing the team at the bottom. Might have been Brighton and we got cuffed 1-3 in front of about 4500 fans. Utter shite it was. Then we somehow did well in the auto glass thing and that spurred us on in the league from nowhere. We won away at Stockport in the QF 1-0 despite being backs to the wall throughout. They'd just hammered us in the league but we somehow won that day as Stockport and Alun Armstrong in particular missed glorious chance after glorious chance. And the rest as they say is history, but if wed lost that night in that cup we'd have gone down IMO. Started at the new stadium in the 4th tier without Warnock probably. Worse than wadsworths?! Not a bloody chance - it wasnt great and we were in relegation danger for a while but he had to sell every jewel in the squad and reshape it. He did a brilliant job and but for his fall out terry fisher hed have done even better! Wadsworths team was that dull i briefly stopped coming to home games - we barely scored a goal in the first few months and then some sponsor said i will fund a striker for you. The monotone halfwit got lee ashcroft.....another dud to join bevan, youds, sharp, gavin et al. Dreadful time for the club made worse when you realised he got paid more than macari before him despite us geing unable to afford macari and jordan! |
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Post by mosher on Aug 16, 2022 8:41:27 GMT 1
The first season under Warnock was dreadful I thought. That was probably the worst team I can remember for town, Even worse than Wadsworths IMO. At least it was up until March. Can remember going to a game about February at Leeds Road. We were 2nd bottom and we were playing the team at the bottom. Might have been Brighton and we got cuffed 1-3 in front of about 4500 fans. Utter shite it was. Then we somehow did well in the auto glass thing and that spurred us on in the league from nowhere. We won away at Stockport in the QF 1-0 despite being backs to the wall throughout. They'd just hammered us in the league but we somehow won that day as Stockport and Alun Armstrong in particular missed glorious chance after glorious chance. And the rest as they say is history, but if wed lost that night in that cup we'd have gone down IMO. Started at the new stadium in the 4th tier without Warnock probably. Worse than wadsworths?! Not a bloody chance - it wasnt great and we were in relegation danger for a while but he had to sell every jewel in the squad and reshape it. He did a brilliant job and but for his fall out terry fisher hed have done even better! Wadsworths team was that dull i briefly stopped coming to home games - we barely scored a goal in the first few months and then some sponsor said i will fund a striker for you. The monotone halfwit got lee ashcroft.....another dud to join bevan, youds, sharp, gavin et al. Dreadful time for the club made worse when you realised he got paid more than macari before him despite us geing unable to afford macari and jordan! Yeah but he was recommended by Sir Bobby, how dare you |
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Post by mosher on Aug 16, 2022 9:00:12 GMT 1
Exactly Omega, and he's still getting crap about the style of football when he was OUR manager. 93 was my first regular season as a ST holder and that season and the season after were anything but dull. Some of the wing play and centre forward play was outstanding. Also think it's a myth it was all long ball; we got the ball forward quickly but it wasn't just hooooooof. Hefele and others are loved for their diagonal passes and long PASSES under Wagner, which is precisely what the team did under Warnock IMO! The first season under Warnock was dreadful I thought. That was probably the worst team I can remember for town, Even worse than Wadsworths IMO. At least it was up until March. Can remember going to a game about February at Leeds Road. We were 2nd bottom and we were playing the team at the bottom. Might have been Brighton and we got cuffed 1-3 in front of about 4500 fans. Utter shite it was. Then we somehow did well in the auto glass thing and that spurred us on in the league from nowhere. We won away at Stockport in the QF 1-0 despite being backs to the wall throughout. They'd just hammered us in the league but we somehow won that day as Stockport and Alun Armstrong in particular missed glorious chance after glorious chance. And the rest as they say is history, but if wed lost that night in that cup we'd have gone down IMO. Started at the new stadium in the 4th tier without Warnock probably. Maybe it's just the nostalgia playing tricks, but I thought we improved around or just after Christmas. Maybe not resultswise, but performances and actually looking like we had direction was certainly better. And I REALLY can't agree about the Wadsworth comment, I seriously contemplated accidentally losing my season ticket while he was in charge. Not just the football being shit, but the man himself used to put me to sleep |
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Post by Captainslapper on Aug 16, 2022 12:09:08 GMT 1
Maybe Im forgetting just how bad it was under Wadsworth!
But it was bloody awful under Warnock in that first season too. Think the amazing turnaround that lead to Wembley and then the whole end of an era thing with Leeds Road and that last game v Blackpool is what people remember from that season.
But we were utterly woeful until about March.
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Post by mosher on Aug 16, 2022 12:17:15 GMT 1
Don't worry Slapps, I acknowledge my memory (especially 90s/00s) has a green hazy fog around it Nostalgia aint what it used to be  |
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Post by shawsie on Aug 16, 2022 23:05:12 GMT 1
Maybe Im forgetting just how bad it was under Wadsworth! But it was bloody awful under Warnock in that first season too. Think the amazing turnaround that lead to Wembley and then the whole end of an era thing with Leeds Road and that last game v Blackpool is what people remember from that season. But we were utterly woeful until about March. Think you must be! From memory we drew away at runaway leaders reading that first season 0-0 and it could gave been 0-8. From there it felt things changed and we picked up - didnt scully and cowan arrive late on also......and they were huge improvements on hicks and wells! |
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Post by wildhogg on Aug 16, 2022 23:12:18 GMT 1
My abiding memory of Wadsworth (aside from the dreadful football) is driving home every game listening to him giving essentially the same unbelievably dull, repetitive, monotone radio interview after every single home defeat. Boring prick.
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Post by stinkypete on Aug 16, 2022 23:16:22 GMT 1
Even his stance in the dugout was boring, slumped against side of dugout!!
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Post by Captainslapper on Aug 16, 2022 23:51:11 GMT 1
Maybe Im forgetting just how bad it was under Wadsworth! But it was bloody awful under Warnock in that first season too. Think the amazing turnaround that lead to Wembley and then the whole end of an era thing with Leeds Road and that last game v Blackpool is what people remember from that season. But we were utterly woeful until about March. Think you must be! From memory we drew away at runaway leaders reading that first season 0-0 and it could gave been 0-8. From there it felt things changed and we picked up - didnt scully and cowan arrive late on also......and they were huge improvements on hicks and wells! Youre right we did draw 0-0 at reading in mid December but it didnt pick up much. We won 3 from the next 11 games, the last of those 11 being the home defeat by bottom of the table Brighton when we were second bottom. It picked up from late March and we went from relegation fodder to a comfortably safe finish in the end, winning 8 and drawing 3 of our last 11 games. Think Cowan and Scully came in around March time. Wasnt Cowan on loan initially? Then we signed him in the summer? But it was the cup run that really made the difference IMO. |
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Post by shawsie on Aug 17, 2022 9:12:48 GMT 1
Think you must be! From memory we drew away at runaway leaders reading that first season 0-0 and it could gave been 0-8. From there it felt things changed and we picked up - didnt scully and cowan arrive late on also......and they were huge improvements on hicks and wells! Youre right we did draw 0-0 at reading in mid December but it didnt pick up much. We won 3 from the next 11 games, the last of those 11 being the home defeat by bottom of the table Brighton when we were second bottom. It picked up from late March and we went from relegation fodder to a comfortably safe finish in the end, winning 8 and drawing 3 of our last 11 games. Think Cowan and Scully came in around March time. Wasnt Cowan on loan initially? Then we signed him in the summer? But it was the cup run that really made the difference IMO. Cowan and scully were integral to the improvement. A mix of energy and no nonsense defending and we ground out some results at last! Think jeppo came late that year also and was bang average until the following pre season got him really fit. The cup run ignited the fans though.....he wouldnt have got yr 2 in the current climate |
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Post by Porrohman on Aug 17, 2022 9:31:29 GMT 1
I would just like to say, that I WAS one of those 2,000 fans. Not a mysterious one that saw us get beat 10-0 by Man City or whatever. The rain was pouring down through a hole in the roof on me head the whole game. BUT... I had had the best fish n chips ever before the game, so I wasn't too angry. I was there that day, remember behind the away end being flooded before the game. Totally got piss wet through, but if my memory serves me right behind the goal there was no roof. Sure it was an open terrace. Remember the blokes with the big squeegees trying to push water off the pitch onto the, already flooded, track at the side 🙄 |
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Post by dalesterrier on Aug 19, 2022 7:00:42 GMT 1
I've just watched this and had a smile on my face all the way through. Great memories, interesting side stories and I loved his comments about the game changing. Yes it has changed but you still need to motivate your players. And he was definitely up there in that regard.
I'd imagine the event at the town hall will be an excellent evening
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Post by COWSHEDPHIL on Aug 19, 2022 7:19:06 GMT 1
Exactly Omega, and he's still getting crap about the style of football when he was OUR manager. 93 was my first regular season as a ST holder and that season and the season after were anything but dull. Some of the wing play and centre forward play was outstanding. Also think it's a myth it was all long ball; we got the ball forward quickly but it wasn't just hooooooof. Hefele and others are loved for their diagonal passes and long PASSES under Wagner, which is precisely what the team did under Warnock IMO! The first season under Warnock was dreadful I thought. That was probably the worst team I can remember for town, Even worse than Wadsworths IMO. At least it was up until March. Can remember going to a game about February at Leeds Road. We were 2nd bottom and we were playing the team at the bottom. Might have been Brighton and we got cuffed 1-3 in front of about 4500 fans. Utter shite it was. Then we somehow did well in the auto glass thing and that spurred us on in the league from nowhere. We won away at Stockport in the QF 1-0 despite being backs to the wall throughout. They'd just hammered us in the league but we somehow won that day as Stockport and Alun Armstrong in particular missed glorious chance after glorious chance. And the rest as they say is history, but if wed lost that night in that cup we'd have gone down IMO. Started at the new stadium in the 4th tier without Warnock probably. We lost at home to Barnet too and they’d not won all season. |
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Post by iangreaves on Aug 19, 2022 8:58:58 GMT 1
Man management - Warnock is a master of it.
And...... Bully's at the West Brom game. Half time team talk?
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