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Post by Captainslapper on Aug 19, 2022 8:59:35 GMT 1
I've just watched this and had a smile on my face all the way through. Great memories, interesting side stories and I loved his comments about the game changing. Yes it has changed but you still need to motivate your players. And he was definitely up there in that regard. I'd imagine the event at the town hall will be an excellent evening Thought it was funny how everyone had a nickname, inclusions Logan and Clayton ( Logey and Clayts ) who I barely remember even playing from that team. Sinbad, Scally, Bully, Boothy, Jeppo, Dunny, Trev.. All except Gary Crosby.. who is referred to as 'Crosby'. Which makes you think he wasnt particularly popular or maybe just didnt fit in somehow. That wouldn't surprise me as pretty much everyone in that side fell into 2 brackets... 'hard man' or 'local kid', and somehow Gary Crosby was neither. A bit of a flimsy, flouncing winger who'd dropped down the pyramid to end up at town. |
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Post by yappledapple on Aug 19, 2022 9:42:58 GMT 1
I've just watched this and had a smile on my face all the way through. Great memories, interesting side stories and I loved his comments about the game changing. Yes it has changed but you still need to motivate your players. And he was definitely up there in that regard. I'd imagine the event at the town hall will be an excellent evening Thought it was funny how everyone had a nickname, inclusions Logan and Clayton ( Logey and Clayts ) who I barely remember even playing from that team. Sinbad, Scally, Bully, Boothy, Jeppo, Dunny, Trev.. All except Gary Crosby.. who is referred to as 'Crosby'.
Which makes you think he wasnt particularly popular or maybe just didnt fit in somehow. That wouldn't surprise me as pretty much everyone in that side fell into 2 brackets... 'hard man' or 'local kid', and somehow Gary Crosby was neither. A bit of a flimsy, flouncing winger who'd dropped down the pyramid to end up at town. Or is it though. Those shortened names are typical football (or any team sport) 'bloke' nicknames. Many teams I've played in, if it works, the surname has been shortnened to end in a 'y'. My own was and still is the name that everyone calls me at work. 'Crosby' doesn't fit the shortening as it's already there and has the 'y' on it. 'Gazza' doesn't quite fit and had aready been taken! |
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Post by mosher on Aug 19, 2022 10:22:27 GMT 1
Thanks for posting that mate, some right memories nudged there  |
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Post by Venezuelan Pete on Aug 19, 2022 10:23:05 GMT 1
I've just watched this and had a smile on my face all the way through. Great memories, interesting side stories and I loved his comments about the game changing. Yes it has changed but you still need to motivate your players. And he was definitely up there in that regard. I'd imagine the event at the town hall will be an excellent evening Thought it was funny how everyone had a nickname, inclusions Logan and Clayton ( Logey and Clayts ) who I barely remember even playing from that team. Sinbad, Scally, Bully, Boothy, Jeppo, Dunny, Trev.. All except Gary Crosby.. who is referred to as 'Crosby'. Which makes you think he wasnt particularly popular or maybe just didnt fit in somehow. That wouldn't surprise me as pretty much everyone in that side fell into 2 brackets... 'hard man' or 'local kid', and somehow Gary Crosby was neither. A bit of a flimsy, flouncing winger who'd dropped down the pyramid to end up at town. Took me a while when he described the Wembley winning goal being scored by "Seebs". See-Bee = CB = Chris Billy! |
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Post by mosher on Aug 19, 2022 10:24:45 GMT 1
Thought it was funny how everyone had a nickname, inclusions Logan and Clayton ( Logey and Clayts ) who I barely remember even playing from that team. Sinbad, Scally, Bully, Boothy, Jeppo, Dunny, Trev.. All except Gary Crosby.. who is referred to as 'Crosby'. Which makes you think he wasnt particularly popular or maybe just didnt fit in somehow. That wouldn't surprise me as pretty much everyone in that side fell into 2 brackets... 'hard man' or 'local kid', and somehow Gary Crosby was neither. A bit of a flimsy, flouncing winger who'd dropped down the pyramid to end up at town. Took me a while when he described the Wembley winning goal being scored by "Seebs". See-Bee = CB = Chris Billy! Ditto VP, was racking my brain to try and fit Seebs into Billy's name, til I remembered his initials, thought I'd forgotten who scored the winner lol |
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Post by Captainslapper on Aug 19, 2022 10:54:20 GMT 1
Thought it was funny how everyone had a nickname, inclusions Logan and Clayton ( Logey and Clayts ) who I barely remember even playing from that team. Sinbad, Scally, Bully, Boothy, Jeppo, Dunny, Trev.. All except Gary Crosby.. who is referred to as 'Crosby'.
Which makes you think he wasnt particularly popular or maybe just didnt fit in somehow. That wouldn't surprise me as pretty much everyone in that side fell into 2 brackets... 'hard man' or 'local kid', and somehow Gary Crosby was neither. A bit of a flimsy, flouncing winger who'd dropped down the pyramid to end up at town. Or is it though. Those shortened names are typical football (or any team sport) 'bloke' nicknames. Many teams I've played in, if it works, the surname has been shortnened to end in a 'y'. My own was and still is the name that everyone calls me at work. 'Crosby' doesn't fit the shortening as it's already there and has the 'y' on it. 'Gazza' doesn't quite fit and had aready been taken! He'd be Crozzo surely? Or if they were being clever 'Bing'. |
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Post by 4 pts on Aug 19, 2022 11:57:03 GMT 1
Might not be everyones cup of tea and definitely an annoyance on the touchline, but I like the guy. Great little interview by Boothy - really enjoyed that
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Post by sabailand on Aug 19, 2022 14:23:43 GMT 1
Yes it was a great 20 mins watch, only took 10 minutes to make his mind up to sign Darren Bullock, and what a signing it was.
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Aug 19, 2022 18:04:02 GMT 1
Or is it though. Those shortened names are typical football (or any team sport) 'bloke' nicknames. Many teams I've played in, if it works, the surname has been shortnened to end in a 'y'. My own was and still is the name that everyone calls me at work. 'Crosby' doesn't fit the shortening as it's already there and has the 'y' on it. 'Gazza' doesn't quite fit and had aready been taken! He'd be Crozzo surely? Or if they were being clever 'Bing'. Was known as "Bing" during his Forest days. 👍 |
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Post by griffa on Aug 19, 2022 21:02:19 GMT 1
Colin's man management skills are exceptional. The quality of the football is questionable!
Let's hope that Danny gets to grip with the shortcoming's of our current team.
Want him to succeed - UTT.
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Post by wildhogg on Aug 19, 2022 23:34:06 GMT 1
I think if we're all being realistic based upon what's been seen so far, we'll need a Warnock-esque character in at our club around the Christmas/New Year mark. Hopefully then we'll have a chance of staying up and can plan ahead for a new longer-term option in advance of 23-24. Nothing personal against Schofield, but replacing one of the best managers in the league (and crucially one adept at making a silk purse out of sow's ear) with a virtual novice was utterly crazy.
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Post by ldr on Aug 20, 2022 0:11:27 GMT 1
I liked Gary Crosby.
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Post by Captainslapper on Aug 20, 2022 8:38:36 GMT 1
I think if we're all being realistic based upon what's been seen so far, we'll need a Warnock-esque character in at our club around the Christmas/New Year mark. Hopefully then we'll have a chance of staying up and can plan ahead for a new longer-term option in advance of 23-24. Nothing personal against Schofield, but replacing one of the best managers in the league (and crucially one adept at making a silk purse out of sow's ear) with a virtual novice was utterly crazy. A virtual novice... like Carlos was... or Wagner was you mean? Yeah, we've shown that virtual novices are a disaster have Town! Get a Stan Ternant in! Glad to know you think we'll still have a chance of staying up at Christmas though! LOL |
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Post by dalesterrier on Aug 20, 2022 9:25:06 GMT 1
I think if we're all being realistic based upon what's been seen so far, we'll need a Warnock-esque character in at our club around the Christmas/New Year mark. Hopefully then we'll have a chance of staying up and can plan ahead for a new longer-term option in advance of 23-24. Nothing personal against Schofield, but replacing one of the best managers in the league (and crucially one adept at making a silk purse out of sow's ear) with a virtual novice was utterly crazy. A virtual novice... like Carlos was... or Wagner was you mean? Yeah, we've shown that virtual novices are a disaster have Town! Get a Stan Ternant in! Glad to know you think we'll still have a chance of staying up at Christmas though! LOL I'm not necessarily agreeing with the above but both DW and CC had first team experience before they took the Town role. Yes at lower levels but still with teams where results mattered |
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Post by wildhogg on Aug 20, 2022 9:39:31 GMT 1
It's absolutely a fair point, but last season it was obvious to all concerned that our success was due to having a manager who was able to develop and get the most out of players either at the back end of their careers or completely unheralded. Add to that his tactical nous. He should gave been replaced by someone with a similar skill set. Promoting a chap from within who has no managerial experience just wasn't sensible, even if we were only a few weeks from the start of the season and had little time to work with. I'd much rather us have appointed Danny on a caretaker basis and had a look round for a suitable replacement.
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Post by Captainslapper on Aug 20, 2022 10:43:25 GMT 1
It's absolutely a fair point, but last season it was obvious to all concerned that our success was due to having a manager who was able to develop and get the most out of players either at the back end of their careers or completely unheralded. Add to that his tactical nous. He should gave been replaced by someone with a similar skill set. Promoting a chap from within who has no managerial experience just wasn't sensible, even if we were only a few weeks from the start of the season and had little time to work with. I'd much rather us have appointed Danny on a caretaker basis and had a look round for a suitable replacement. Time will tell I suppose. Think we'd developed a plan to promote from within. So do you throw your plans away at the time you need to implement them? Think its fair to say that Schofield will have played a part himself in getting the best out of those players last season as all the coaches will and theres value in the idea of continuity , which is what he offers. Any managerial appointment is a gamble. Largely a stab in the dark really. The managers we've had over recent times who have been most successful havent been experienced.. they've been novices. Certainly hadn't managed at anything like this level. No reason why Schofield can't be another one. Like Carlos was, he's been provided with some good signings this summer , just at the moment he's contending with a few existing players who are clearly struggling for form. Or he could end up being a mistake.. but so could appointing an experienced manager. |
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Post by Carlito Brigante on Aug 20, 2022 10:58:58 GMT 1
It's absolutely a fair point, but last season it was obvious to all concerned that our success was due to having a manager who was able to develop and get the most out of players either at the back end of their careers or completely unheralded. Add to that his tactical nous. He should gave been replaced by someone with a similar skill set. Promoting a chap from within who has no managerial experience just wasn't sensible, even if we were only a few weeks from the start of the season and had little time to work with. I'd much rather us have appointed Danny on a caretaker basis and had a look round for a suitable replacement. Time will tell I suppose. Think we'd developed a plan to promote from within. So do you throw your plans away at the time you need to implement them? Think its fair to say that Schofield will have played a part himself in getting the best out of those players last season as all the coaches will and theres value in the idea of continuity , which is what he offers. Any managerial appointment is a gamble. Largely a stab in the dark really. The managers we've had over recent times who have been most successful havent been experienced.. they've been novices. Certainly hadn't managed at anything like this level. No reason why Schofield can't be another one. Like Carlos was, he's been provided with some good signings this summer , just at the moment he's contending with a few existing players who are clearly struggling for form. Or he could end up being a mistake.. but so could appointing an experienced manager. For all Warnock achieved here, the first season was an absolute disaster for the first six months as players were moved on and new ones brought in who bought in to the manager’s methods. Schofield is going to have to manage with what he has got and that is always harder although he has been working with them for a good while. I just hope he gets them fired up before a game soon as the way we are starting games so far is worrying. |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Aug 20, 2022 19:11:09 GMT 1
We would have been promoted to the PL way before we did if he had stayed.
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Post by saintlyterrier on Aug 20, 2022 19:43:53 GMT 1
Please remember that Warnock f****d off the same day Town were promoted.
Money grabbing bastard.
Please -NO RETURN.
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Post by mosher on Aug 21, 2022 14:06:02 GMT 1
Please remember that Warnock f****d off the same day Town were promoted. Money grabbing bastard. Please -NO RETURN. This has got to be personal saintlyterrier There's plenty of anecdotal evidence to suggest what you've posted there is complete bollox (the money chasing bit). He didn't leave Town for money, there was a massive disagreement between him and Terry Fishnets. Warnock quit over that, only for the dick that was Fishnets to then quit weeks later. If it had been Warnock that stayed and TF left, I (and many others inside and outside football) think we'd have been PL before even Rubbery got involved! Not saying he has or hasn't been money grabbing before or since, but certainly wasn't a reason for him to dump Town. |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Aug 21, 2022 14:14:02 GMT 1
Please remember that Warnock f****d off the same day Town were promoted. Money grabbing bastard. Please -NO RETURN. This has got to be personal saintlyterrier There's plenty of anecdotal evidence to suggest what you've posted there is complete bollox (the money chasing bit). He didn't leave Town for money, there was a massive disagreement between him and Terry Fishnets. Warnock quit over that, only for the dick that was Fishnets to then quit weeks later. If it had been Warnock that stayed and TF left, I (and many others inside and outside football) think we'd have been PL before even Rubbery got involved! Not saying he has or hasn't been money grabbing before or since, but certainly wasn't a reason for him to dump Town. Here here. |
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Post by turbo2 on Aug 21, 2022 14:26:26 GMT 1
Please remember that Warnock f****d off the same day Town were promoted. Money grabbing bastard. Please -NO RETURN. This has got to be personal saintlyterrier There's plenty of anecdotal evidence to suggest what you've posted there is complete bollox (the money chasing bit). He didn't leave Town for money, there was a massive disagreement between him and Terry Fishnets. Warnock quit over that, only for the dick that was Fishnets to then quit weeks later. If it had been Warnock that stayed and TF left, I (and many others inside and outside football) think we'd have been PL before even Rubbery got involved! Not saying he has or hasn't been money grabbing before or since, but certainly wasn't a reason for him to dump Town. Everything is about money with warnock. Everything. His substitutions are famous for it. |
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Post by mosher on Aug 21, 2022 14:29:20 GMT 1
This has got to be personal saintlyterrier There's plenty of anecdotal evidence to suggest what you've posted there is complete bollox (the money chasing bit). He didn't leave Town for money, there was a massive disagreement between him and Terry Fishnets. Warnock quit over that, only for the dick that was Fishnets to then quit weeks later. If it had been Warnock that stayed and TF left, I (and many others inside and outside football) think we'd have been PL before even Rubbery got involved! Not saying he has or hasn't been money grabbing before or since, but certainly wasn't a reason for him to dump Town. Everything is about money with warnock. Everything. His substitutions are famous for it. Which is why I put the final sentence. The point I was making was that WASN'T the reason he left Town. |
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Post by Captainslapper on Aug 23, 2022 23:59:36 GMT 1
Are you sure?
The version of events I heard would say it WAS about money.
Centred around him opening his own club shop in the town centre and Fisher refusing.
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Post by colnevalleyblue on Aug 24, 2022 7:19:36 GMT 1
You can get the story from the horses mouth in September as he's on at the Town Hall. Not bought one because he's charging a small fortune but looks like tickets have nearly sold out!
I also thought it was to do with Warnock and his missus Sharon wanting to open a sports souvenir shop which also sold Town merchandise in the centre of Town.
He told Fisher about the plan, Fisher poured cold water over it, said it couldn't be done but then Fisher opened 'World of Soccer' on Cross Church Street and Warnock felt like Fisher had nicked his idea.
There was something in the Examiner about it a few years ago but I can't find the article now.
The line to Andy Booth, 'youre in F*cking Latvia' was in reference to his call up for the England U21s, he was either due to travel to Latvia to play for England after the Shrewsbury game, or had just got back from playing their.
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Post by mosher on Aug 24, 2022 10:49:21 GMT 1
Captainslapper & colnevalleyblue wow, I didn't know the ins and outs of it regarding the sports shop. Just got told by a friend of Fishnets that him and Warnock fell out and wouldn't work together again, no matter what. Thanks for the info. Still on Warnock's side regarding this though. Especially if cvb is right and Fishnets then robbed Colin's idea, cheeky bastard
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Post by prepare on Aug 24, 2022 12:10:20 GMT 1
This has got to be personal saintlyterrier There's plenty of anecdotal evidence to suggest what you've posted there is complete bollox (the money chasing bit). He didn't leave Town for money, there was a massive disagreement between him and Terry Fishnets. Warnock quit over that, only for the dick that was Fishnets to then quit weeks later. If it had been Warnock that stayed and TF left, I (and many others inside and outside football) think we'd have been PL before even Rubbery got involved! Not saying he has or hasn't been money grabbing before or since, but certainly wasn't a reason for him to dump Town. Here here. . Neil approached fisher about a shop in town to sell town stuff and other things fisher agreed then renamed on his word that was it the trust between manager and coach was broken Whatever the result at Wembley he was going It was a principle not money |
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Post by prepare on Aug 24, 2022 12:12:17 GMT 1
. Neil approached fisher about a shop in town to sell town stuff and other things fisher agreed then renagedon his word that was it the trust between manager and chairmanwas broken Whatever the result at Wembley he was going It was a principle not money |
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Post by mosher on Aug 24, 2022 16:08:29 GMT 1
Warnock has a place in Towns history of managers, I'm more concerned about the future, not the past. Agree, which is why I said I'd welcome him back in an advisory role to help Danny. An old head for guidance kind of thing. I don't want him back as manager, mainly because it would definitely only be short term. Much as it's a cheap option, I do quite like this continuity idea. |
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Post by workshyfop on Aug 25, 2022 14:19:01 GMT 1
Wagner back now against West Brom … no pressure, Danny!
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