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Post by yoy on Aug 17, 2022 8:11:40 GMT 1
I did warn of this at the end of last season when everyone was bigging him up saying he was the best thing dance sliced bread and worth 10 million quid. He's gone the total other way now, back to looking like a non league player. The lad is trying though but looks out of form and out of confidence. The smug glee at a player’s loss of form. Really odd. |
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Post by ldotm on Aug 17, 2022 8:13:40 GMT 1
The “billy big bollocks” and “he thinks he’s already made it” are just lazy comments and I think it’s piss poor personally, that fans are trying to stick the knife in & make it bigger than it needs to be.
He’s been terrible, no doubting that. But to say he’s not trying etc is nonsense. They get tracked on running stats & I’m sure it would not be going unnoticed if he was half arsing it.
Sorba thrives off the crowd, you can see that with his post dance celebrations last year. He needs an arm around him and a confidence boost not a plethora of abuse.
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Aug 17, 2022 8:20:42 GMT 1
The “billy big bollocks” and “he thinks he’s already made it” are just lazy comments and I think it’s piss poor personally, that fans are trying to stick the knife in & make it bigger than it needs to be. He’s been terrible, no doubting that. But to say he’s not trying etc is nonsense. They get tracked on running stats & I’m sure it would not be going unnoticed if he was half arsing it. Sorba thrives off the crowd, you can see that with his post dance celebrations last year. He needs an arm around him and a confidence boost not a plethora of abuse. I’d go with this. He hasn’t all of a sudden lost all of the skills he showed last season. He’s been poor so far this season there’s no getting away from this but I haven’t seen anyone better in this league at delivering a dead ball. I’m sure he’ll come good again . |
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Post by Captainslapper on Aug 17, 2022 8:36:48 GMT 1
The “billy big bollocks” and “he thinks he’s already made it” are just lazy comments and I think it’s piss poor personally, that fans are trying to stick the knife in & make it bigger than it needs to be. He’s been terrible, no doubting that. But to say he’s not trying etc is nonsense. They get tracked on running stats & I’m sure it would not be going unnoticed if he was half arsing it. Sorba thrives off the crowd, you can see that with his post dance celebrations last year. He needs an arm around him and a confidence boost not a plethora of abuse. Agree with that. Theres a similarity with Koroma in a way. Both arriving from non league and after a settling in period both making a massive impression.. perhaps an unexpectedly good one on both occasions! And now both players seemingly way off what they had been showing and totally bereft of all confidence. Think in both players its amazing how they have gone from such good form to where they are now. Koroma has the excuse of a long spell out with injury..Thomas maybe the excuse of the Wales thing and last seasons heartache acting as a distraction.. But both are in the same place just now. Nothing they attempt seems to come off. They both seem well behind the pace of the game and are forever making the wrong choices in games. And you can tell both are extremely frustrated with themselves. The harder they try, the worse it seems to get. Think both just need patience from the crowd and for something to just go right for them. One moment of quality they can successfully pull off and build on. Short term id take Thomas out of the firing line. Use him from the bench for a while and hope he comes on and makes a real impact against some tiring defenders. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2022 9:02:14 GMT 1
The “billy big bollocks” and “he thinks he’s already made it” are just lazy comments and I think it’s piss poor personally, that fans are trying to stick the knife in & make it bigger than it needs to be. He’s been terrible, no doubting that. But to say he’s not trying etc is nonsense. They get tracked on running stats & I’m sure it would not be going unnoticed if he was half arsing it. Sorba thrives off the crowd, you can see that with his post dance celebrations last year. He needs an arm around him and a confidence boost not a plethora of abuse. Fully agree. Also anyone who has been, or still is, an angry footballer (I know because I was one) knows how counterproductive it is. You spend too much time being cross, at the ref, teammates, yourself, whatever, and it effects your game. Sorba was an angry man regularly last season, and that was when it was going well. It may be he has been told to chill, try and get that anger out of his game and concentrate on more on the positives. This may be why he smiles rather than looking apoplectic as he often did last season. A lot has changed around him in the team and coaching staff and that needs to gel. They all need time to settle and get their mojo back. Lets cut them some slack. |
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Post by tepidterrier on Aug 17, 2022 9:09:04 GMT 1
The “billy big bollocks” and “he thinks he’s already made it” are just lazy comments and I think it’s piss poor personally, that fans are trying to stick the knife in & make it bigger than it needs to be. He’s been terrible, no doubting that. But to say he’s not trying etc is nonsense. They get tracked on running stats & I’m sure it would not be going unnoticed if he was half arsing it. Sorba thrives off the crowd, you can see that with his post dance celebrations last year. He needs an arm around him and a confidence boost not a plethora of abuse. the same comments came out suspiciously quickly when he had a very brief dip in form last season |
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Post by Captainslapper on Aug 17, 2022 9:26:16 GMT 1
The “billy big bollocks” and “he thinks he’s already made it” are just lazy comments and I think it’s piss poor personally, that fans are trying to stick the knife in & make it bigger than it needs to be. He’s been terrible, no doubting that. But to say he’s not trying etc is nonsense. They get tracked on running stats & I’m sure it would not be going unnoticed if he was half arsing it. Sorba thrives off the crowd, you can see that with his post dance celebrations last year. He needs an arm around him and a confidence boost not a plethora of abuse. the same comments came out suspiciously quickly when he had a very brief dip in form last season Think its because there are some fans who can't see 'playing badly' and 'not trying' as two separate things that dont have to go together. Its rarely the case that they do in reality. |
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Post by terriers2000 on Aug 17, 2022 9:41:08 GMT 1
Next game drop him on the bench and see how that effects him
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Post by isobelle1992 on Aug 17, 2022 9:52:04 GMT 1
The “billy big bollocks” and “he thinks he’s already made it” are just lazy comments and I think it’s piss poor personally, that fans are trying to stick the knife in & make it bigger than it needs to be. He’s been terrible, no doubting that. But to say he’s not trying etc is nonsense. They get tracked on running stats & I’m sure it would not be going unnoticed if he was half arsing it. Sorba thrives off the crowd, you can see that with his post dance celebrations last year. He needs an arm around him and a confidence boost not a plethora of abuse. Agree with that. Theres a similarity with Koroma in a way. Both arriving from non league and after a settling in period both making a massive impression.. perhaps an unexpectedly good one on both occasions! And now both players seemingly way off what they had been showing and totally bereft of all confidence. Think in both players its amazing how they have gone from such good form to where they are now. Koroma has the excuse of a long spell out with injury..Thomas maybe the excuse of the Wales thing and last seasons heartache acting as a distraction.. But both are in the same place just now. Nothing they attempt seems to come off. They both seem well behind the pace of the game and are forever making the wrong choices in games. And you can tell both are extremely frustrated with themselves. The harder they try, the worse it seems to get. Think both just need patience from the crowd and for something to just go right for them. One moment of quality they can successfully pull off and build on. Short term id take Thomas out of the firing line. Use him from the bench for a while and hope he comes on and makes a real impact against some tiring defenders. You could make similar comments about some goalkeepers etc. needing crowd support to maintain/develop confidence. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2022 9:56:23 GMT 1
How can the lad who used to travel by public transport from the east end of London to Borehamwood in Hertfordshire to continue playing football after being let go by West Ham, and earn a living in the building trade at the same time be called a 'Billy big bollocks'? What nonsense.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Aug 17, 2022 9:58:05 GMT 1
Next game drop him on the bench and see how that effects him Rest him on the bench??? Cut his training sessions down to some gentle jogging(he managed quite a bit of that last night). Or just up his contract and see if that motivates? Danny a bit frightened to drop him? Playing with 10 men at the moment and the 11th is a bit of a hazard. Im running and chasing fucking shadows with Sorba in front of me at the moment and poor old Ruffels is next to feel the ire of the Town fans who apparently just watch Sorba when he takes set pieces?? The common denominator in full backs looking poor is Sorba... Put him up the pitch and leave him there, organise further back in the knowledge that he isnt coming too far back, too often. |
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Post by brighousebandbred on Aug 17, 2022 10:01:14 GMT 1
How can the lad who used to travel by public transport from the east end of London to Borehamwood in Hertfordshire to continue playing football after being let go by West Ham, and earn a living in the building trade at the same time be called a 'Billy big bollocks'? What nonsense. Not exactly hard most young lads work a long week and play football most days of the week and pay for the privilege, not having it that any footballer can’t let things go to their heads it’s possible in all walks of life especially sport. |
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Post by drumriggend on Aug 17, 2022 10:01:18 GMT 1
I'd be interested to hear the rationale for switching him over to the left side. Surely tonight would have been a decent opportunity for him to try and rediscover some form up against a central midfielder filling in at left back... This.. Our most threatening player last year.. Played every game ont right or RWB.. So Schofield suddenly decided to play him ont left 🤷🤷  .. It’s madness.. Play him in his best position ffs.. 🤬 |
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Post by upthetown on Aug 17, 2022 10:04:30 GMT 1
He seemed to have a big dip in form from October until New Year last season. His set pieces were great but in open play he seemed off the boil and out of form. I don’t think it’s a lack of effort and I think the smile/laugh was frustration when he missed! He clearly cares.
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Aug 17, 2022 10:11:38 GMT 1
Carlos got Sorba fit and playing well most of last season in a well oiled team and seemed far more motivated than we see at present
Schofield isnt Corberan and certainly doesnt seem to be getting the best out of the squad
Sorba needs to get his form and fitness levels back fast as he could be putting his world cup place at risk
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Post by 3Pipe on Aug 17, 2022 10:13:16 GMT 1
Nothing they attempt seems to come off. Didn't Thomas cross the ball for Nakayama's goal the other day? Wouldn't swear to it but I was under the impression he did. I wouldn't say they were totally bereft of confidence. In Sorba's case, I think he's lacking focus and concentration. Can't read into Koroma last night, he got about 6 minutes, if that. One moment where he received the ball out wide and literally had nobody showing for a pass, had to try and cut back, ended up losing possession. Both players sadly off-form but I wouldn't say totally bereft of confidence. In Thomas's case it would help if he took things on the pitch a bit more seriously and focused himself. Whilst they're both not completely bereft of confidence, I'm not sure the manager has the presence to instill much of a reaction from his players, hence the poor starts. If we'd come out of the traps properly last night we'd have got at least a point from the game. |
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Post by Ross83 on Aug 17, 2022 10:14:00 GMT 1
I hope the laughing and smiling when he puts in a shocker of a final ball or shot is just a nerves thing as it's really starting to piss me off! His final ball of late has been woeful. Becoming the new RVLP!
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Post by Ibiza Town on Aug 17, 2022 10:21:19 GMT 1
The “billy big bollocks” and “he thinks he’s already made it” are just lazy comments and I think it’s piss poor personally, that fans are trying to stick the knife in & make it bigger than it needs to be. He’s been terrible, no doubting that. But to say he’s not trying etc is nonsense. They get tracked on running stats & I’m sure it would not be going unnoticed if he was half arsing it. Sorba thrives off the crowd, you can see that with his post dance celebrations last year. He needs an arm around him and a confidence boost not a plethora of abuse. I’d go with this. He hasn’t all of a sudden lost all of the skills he showed last season. He’s been poor so far this season there’s no getting away from this but I haven’t seen anyone better in this league at delivering a dead ball. I’m sure he’ll come good again . He’s pushing too hard to break a run of bad form , and it’s making it worse Needs time off and some mature coaching advice |
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Post by colnevalleyblue on Aug 17, 2022 10:23:40 GMT 1
I wonder if alot of Thomas' apparent dip in form is due to it being his second season in professional football?
He talked alot last season about how exciting it was to be playing first team football in the championship and as a young and new professional there is little expectation or weight of pressure on your shoulders.
He started the season really well last year and had the momentum but this season has been a difficult start, I think attacking players all need that confidence to get the best out of themselves and the longer he plays like he is doing, that confidence is going to drift further away.
Wonder if it was a similar thing that happened to Koroma. Looks a shadow of himself when compared to the covid season. Personally think Koroma needs time a spell on loan in league 1 to rebuild that confidence and get regular playing time.
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Post by harris on Aug 17, 2022 10:25:52 GMT 1
I hope the laughing and smiling when he puts in a shocker of a final ball or shot is just a nerves thing as it's really starting to piss me off! His final ball of late has been woeful. Becoming the new RVLP! Nothing wrong with playing with a smile on your face. If you’re taking it as a ‘HAHA! I just fucked this up let’s all laugh at town fans’ then that’s up to you |
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Aug 17, 2022 10:29:42 GMT 1
I'd be interested to hear the rationale for switching him over to the left side. Surely tonight would have been a decent opportunity for him to try and rediscover some form up against a central midfielder filling in at left back... The rationale for switching him to the left is surely to accommodate the Villa loanee KK-H, or at least that's the way that I see it. Thomas is NOT a left-winger, never has been. He's wasted there. Get him back on the right and let's see him get back to his old A-game. |
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Post by Captainslapper on Aug 17, 2022 10:40:15 GMT 1
Agree with that. Theres a similarity with Koroma in a way. Both arriving from non league and after a settling in period both making a massive impression.. perhaps an unexpectedly good one on both occasions! And now both players seemingly way off what they had been showing and totally bereft of all confidence. Think in both players its amazing how they have gone from such good form to where they are now. Koroma has the excuse of a long spell out with injury..Thomas maybe the excuse of the Wales thing and last seasons heartache acting as a distraction.. But both are in the same place just now. Nothing they attempt seems to come off. They both seem well behind the pace of the game and are forever making the wrong choices in games. And you can tell both are extremely frustrated with themselves. The harder they try, the worse it seems to get. Think both just need patience from the crowd and for something to just go right for them. One moment of quality they can successfully pull off and build on. Short term id take Thomas out of the firing line. Use him from the bench for a while and hope he comes on and makes a real impact against some tiring defenders. You could make similar comments about some goalkeepers etc. needing crowd support to maintain/develop confidence. Absolutely. Especially young ones. Fans can make a player or break them |
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Post by Captainslapper on Aug 17, 2022 10:46:11 GMT 1
Nothing they attempt seems to come off. Didn't Thomas cross the ball for Nakayama's goal the other day? Wouldn't swear to it but I was under the impression he did. I wouldn't say they were totally bereft of confidence. In Sorba's case, I think he's lacking focus and concentration. Can't read into Koroma last night, he got about 6 minutes, if that. One moment where he received the ball out wide and literally had nobody showing for a pass, had to try and cut back, ended up losing possession. Both players sadly off-form but I wouldn't say totally bereft of confidence. In Thomas's case it would help if he took things on the pitch a bit more seriously and focused himself. Whilst they're both not completely bereft of confidence, I'm not sure the manager has the presence to instill much of a reaction from his players, hence the poor starts. If we'd come out of the traps properly last night we'd have got at least a point from the game. He might have done, I dont know. But it was a corner. Where I think he's struggling is when he has to make instant in-game choices. And its those decisions that he keeps getting wrong now. Its not coming naturally to him this season, like he's over-thinking everything. Its form and confidence IMO When he can take his time and just put over a set piece, he's still more than capable of a great delivery. |
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Aug 17, 2022 11:31:42 GMT 1
I'd be interested to hear the rationale for switching him over to the left side. Surely tonight would have been a decent opportunity for him to try and rediscover some form up against a central midfielder filling in at left back... This.. Our most threatening player last year.. Played every game ont right or RWB.. So Schofield suddenly decided to play him ont left 🤷🤷 .. It’s madness.. Play him in his best position ffs.. 🤬 Whilst I agree that he should be on the right or nowhere, it was Coreberan who first used him on the left. That's were he played (again ineffectively) at Wembley. |
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Post by Ross83 on Aug 17, 2022 11:55:54 GMT 1
I hope the laughing and smiling when he puts in a shocker of a final ball or shot is just a nerves thing as it's really starting to piss me off! His final ball of late has been woeful. Becoming the new RVLP! Nothing wrong with playing with a smile on your face. If you’re taking it as a ‘HAHA! I just fucked this up let’s all laugh at town fans’ then that’s up to you I'm not saying there is, but when you put an "easy ball" into the box 4ft over the head of the person you aimed for.. or miss a sitter and equaliser in the 87th minute then smile or laugh it off it tends to give the impression you're not that bothered. |
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Post by Orinoco on Aug 17, 2022 12:06:12 GMT 1
Maybe he is after a move away.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Aug 17, 2022 12:35:57 GMT 1
Maybe he is after a move away. His form needs to improve for that. |
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Post by Tiro on Aug 17, 2022 12:47:46 GMT 1
I'd be interested to hear the rationale for switching him over to the left side. Surely tonight would have been a decent opportunity for him to try and rediscover some form up against a central midfielder filling in at left back... This.. Our most threatening player last year.. Played every game ont right or RWB.. So Schofield suddenly decided to play him ont left 🤷🤷 .. It’s madness.. Play him in his best position ffs.. 🤬 I think it says more about our squad depth than anything. |
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Post by Henry Mcgee on Aug 17, 2022 13:05:31 GMT 1
Bloody hell - we're 4 games in! Thomas went through very patchy spells last season where his general play was really poor - but his redemption is his delivery. His rise has been incredibly fast - he'll have ups and downs - and he never has been a worldy - but overall I'm glad he's ours.
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Post by Orinoco on Aug 17, 2022 13:07:25 GMT 1
Maybe he is after a move away. His form needs to improve for that. You ain't wrong there, if it is why he's having the dip in form he needs to up his game. |
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