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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2023 8:21:24 GMT 1
He absolutely should be given more time under a better manager. There's no doubt in my mind that Warnock would have had him firing and back to (something like) his best. We were daft to let him go. 100%, although as another poster alluded to, him still been here may not have allowed Koroma to come to the fore, although a fully firing JK on the left and Sorba on the right would have been something to behold.
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Post by Detective Boyle on Apr 26, 2023 8:23:36 GMT 1
I personally hope we sell him for what we can get (1-2mil?) and invest it in better quality and characters.
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Post by impact on Apr 26, 2023 8:44:17 GMT 1
He absolutely should be given more time under a better manager. There's no doubt in my mind that Warnock would have had him firing and back to (something like) his best. We were daft to let him go. There is no chance he wants to come back. I don't think I've ever seen our own player jeered at our home crowd, sung that he's shit or been sung "give us a " when his loan side is losing. He is our player. He nearly carried us to promotion to the Premier league. We have some embarrassing fans.
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Post by ambryboy on Apr 26, 2023 9:11:41 GMT 1
He absolutely should be given more time under a better manager. There's no doubt in my mind that Warnock would have had him firing and back to (something like) his best. We were daft to let him go. There is no chance he wants to come back. I don't think I've ever seen our own player jeered at our home crowd, sung that he's shit or been sung "give us a " when his loan side is losing. He is our player. He nearly carried us to promotion to the Premier league. We have some embarrassing fans. I sincerely hope the actions of a small number of pre-pubescent knobheads don't influence our transfer policy but sadly it has probably tainted his view of our club.
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Post by Captainslapper on Apr 26, 2023 9:17:40 GMT 1
There is no chance he wants to come back. I don't think I've ever seen our own player jeered at our home crowd, sung that he's shit or been sung "give us a " when his loan side is losing. He is our player. He nearly carried us to promotion to the Premier league. We have some embarrassing fans. I sincerely hope the actions of a small number of pre-pubescent knobheads don't influence our transfer policy but sadly it has probably tainted his view of our club. That is true, but I think its fair to say its been a two way street in terms of knobheadness. As someone said, Thomas being here might have stopped Koroma getting the chances hes had, and think its fair to say Koroma has looked the vastly better player of the two in a Town shirt this season.
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Post by rockwall on Apr 26, 2023 9:26:27 GMT 1
Were we though? We probably wouldn't have seen a rejuvenated Koroma. He had lost all confidence, it was obvious he didn't want to be here. A minority of young moronic fans shouting and giving him online abuse regarding 'young girl'. Best thing was to let him go temporarily, and depending on what he and the club want, hopefully a reset going into a new season. He went because he fell out with Fotheringham, Rumoured to have... Just like the Hogg punching MF rumour. Rumours were that ST wasn't liked by many senior pros and Lees had a bust up with ST. All because of his arrogance and attitude (once again, only rumoured) Ultimately, as I said, him going temporary was the best option.
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Post by detox on Apr 26, 2023 10:07:22 GMT 1
Was Sorba a bad influence on Koroma? Whatever, I think Thomas will be off, after the abuse he got (albeit from a small minority although he got a bit on DATM too).
If Warnock stayed however, he'd get him sorted.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Apr 26, 2023 10:53:50 GMT 1
I personally hope we sell him for what we can get (1-2mil?) and invest it in better quality and characters. Better to sell and roll the dice on what the replacement might be? Or better to get the new mgmt team to get their arms round him and see if they can reignite his form? The problem on places like this, is that most things are hearsay, none of us know if he had a bust up, if his attitude is crap etc. He came from non-league, we gave him the opportunity and I would think he’ll always be grateful to Town for that. If he can see that with new ownership, a new mgmt team (& hopefully Championship survival) there’s a real chance of progress, why wouldn’t he knuckle down and go again? He won’t be worth a great deal in the transfer market just now, which means him & his agent will want him to increase his stock price a bit more. I think there’s definitely a Championship level player in there, being transferred for a couple of £m is probably not the best business. But then again, I know feckall about what’s happening behind the scenes and if he’s a bad Penny or not.
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Post by waggers on Apr 26, 2023 11:43:04 GMT 1
I personally hope we sell him for what we can get (1-2mil?) and invest it in better quality and characters. Better to sell and roll the dice on what the replacement might be? Or better to get the new mgmt team to get their arms round him and see if they can reignite his form? The problem on places like this, is that most things are hearsay, none of us know if he had a bust up, if his attitude is crap etc. He came from non-league, we gave him the opportunity and I would think he’ll always be grateful to Town for that. If he can see that with new ownership, a new mgmt team (& hopefully Championship survival) there’s a real chance of progress, why wouldn’t he knuckle down and go again? He won’t be worth a great deal in the transfer market just now, which means him & his agent will want him to increase his stock price a bit more. I think there’s definitely a Championship level player in there, being transferred for a couple of £m is probably not the best business. But then again, I know feckall about what’s happening behind the scenes and if he’s a bad Penny or not. I'd like the new manager (if Neil doesn't stay which he likely won't) to do a great bit of man management and get Sorba back in the right frame of mind. As you say we don't know the full true story there's always a load of tripe spoken by people claiming to know the ins and outs. With the right manager in a team with a bit of momentum he's a great asset in this division.
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Post by ldr on Apr 26, 2023 11:50:30 GMT 1
For me, he’s a very frustrating player to watch. Undoubtedly, he is a great asset at set pieces but in open play, he winds me up to high heaven. He pulls out of some tackles and also does that action like he’s going to go all in, then pulls out. Fake aggression I call it.
He doesn’t have a turn of pace and rarely gets in behind a defender as they know they can easily out muscle him. I watched last night and what summed him up was him starting the handbags with Cork but quickly fleeing the scene once it started looking tasty.
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Post by aksaiblue on Apr 26, 2023 11:52:51 GMT 1
ST has been great for Town, he didn't light the fires this season, but then who did?? Colin would have got him back on track, but alas that didn't happen and as a result I think Sorba will be off, better to concentrate on keeping Josh with the offer of an improved contract.
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Post by impact on Apr 26, 2023 12:30:29 GMT 1
There is no chance he wants to come back. I don't think I've ever seen our own player jeered at our home crowd, sung that he's shit or been sung "give us a " when his loan side is losing. He is our player. He nearly carried us to promotion to the Premier league. We have some embarrassing fans. I sincerely hope the actions of a small number of pre-pubescent knobheads don't influence our transfer policy but sadly it has probably tainted his view of our club. It was more than a handful. And they weren't pre-pubescent.
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Post by Oblong of Dreams on Apr 26, 2023 13:42:42 GMT 1
There is no chance he wants to come back. I don't think I've ever seen our own player jeered at our home crowd, sung that he's shit or been sung "give us a " when his loan side is losing. He is our player. He nearly carried us to promotion to the Premier league. We have some embarrassing fans. I sincerely hope the actions of a small number of pre-pubescent knobheads don't influence our transfer policy but sadly it has probably tainted his view of our club. When this very thread starts with a post slagging the lad off, I don't think you can put it all down to "pre-pubescent knobheads"
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Post by Oblong of Dreams on Apr 26, 2023 13:47:23 GMT 1
He went because he fell out with Fotheringham, Rumoured to have... Just like the Hogg punching MF rumour. Rumours were that ST wasn't liked by many senior pros and Lees had a bust up with ST. All because of his arrogance and attitude (once again, only rumoured) Ultimately, as I said, him going temporary was the best option. I really hope Hoggy did punch Buzz... If we get conclusive proof that it happened, we should give the lad TWO testimonials
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Post by Wingman on Apr 26, 2023 13:52:10 GMT 1
I’d expect Koroma and Sorba to both go this Summer. Bags of talent but I suspect Sorba wants to try his hand at a so-called bigger club to break into the Wales team consistently.
Koroma’s agent will be talking him up to other Champ teams after his recent run.
Shame as on form, these two could supply Simpson, Rhodes, Harratt, Hudlin et al with some tasty crosses.
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Post by mosher on Apr 26, 2023 14:08:52 GMT 1
I’d expect Koroma and Sorba to both go this Summer. Bags of talent but I suspect Sorba wants to try his hand at a so-called bigger club to break into the Wales team consistently. Koroma’s agent will be talking him up to other Champ teams after his recent run. Shame as on form, these two could supply Simpson, Rhodes, Harratt, Hudlin et al with some tasty crosses. Agree, unfortunately, I think they'll both be out the door. Hope I'm wrong though because as you say if they were both on top form our strikers could have a field day. Reminiscent of Boothy/Jepson getting crosses from Reid and Billy/Baldry.
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Post by ambryboy on Apr 26, 2023 14:32:02 GMT 1
I sincerely hope the actions of a small number of pre-pubescent knobheads don't influence our transfer policy but sadly it has probably tainted his view of our club. When this very thread starts with a post slagging the lad off, I don't think you can put it all down to "pre-pubescent knobheads" OK, just knobheads then
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Post by royrace on Apr 26, 2023 15:25:48 GMT 1
I’d expect Koroma and Sorba to both go this Summer. Bags of talent but I suspect Sorba wants to try his hand at a so-called bigger club to break into the Wales team consistently. Koroma’s agent will be talking him up to other Champ teams after his recent run. Shame as on form, these two could supply Simpson, Rhodes, Harratt, Hudlin et al with some tasty crosses. Based on the fact he cant get in the Blackburn starting eleven that looks unlikely. Was brilliant for us last season and we finished third, played a huge part, bring him back into the fold if we survive and see what the next manager can get out of him. The only surprising thing about him falling out with MF is that more players didn't. Same with Koroma, might be a case of better the devil you know for both players although giving Koroma a long deal might be a mistake based on how bad he looked prior to Warnock arriving. He's looked good enough for any champ team since though. Just goes to show how important man management is. Sorba was a revelation last season, I don't think we should forget that. His set pieces alone made a huge difference.
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Post by keithAM11532 on Apr 26, 2023 15:44:21 GMT 1
Footballers are fickle beasts. We have seen that often enough over the years. I would like to think he will come back, new owner, new manager, new squad (most likley, as there is sure to be somewhat of a mini clearout). On the other hand I wont be crying in my beer if he leaves for pastures new. Good luck to him.
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Post by Captainslapper on Apr 26, 2023 16:12:27 GMT 1
I’d expect Koroma and Sorba to both go this Summer. Bags of talent but I suspect Sorba wants to try his hand at a so-called bigger club to break into the Wales team consistently. Koroma’s agent will be talking him up to other Champ teams after his recent run. Shame as on form, these two could supply Simpson, Rhodes, Harratt, Hudlin et al with some tasty crosses. Based on the fact he cant get in the Blackburn starting eleven that looks unlikely. Was brilliant for us last season and we finished third, played a huge part, bring him back into the fold if we survive and see what the next manager can get out of him. The only surprising thing about him falling out with MF is that more players didn't. Same with Koroma, might be a case of better the devil you know for both players although giving Koroma a long deal might be a mistake based on how bad he looked prior to Warnock arriving. He's looked good enough for any champ team since though. Just goes to show how important man management is. Sorba was a revelation last season, I don't think we should forget that. His set pieces alone made a huge difference. Id say he was a revelation up to xmas last season. After that I thought he was on a steady decline to the end of the season...which he carried on into this one. hes looking like a one season ( well half a season ) wonder at the moment IMO.
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Post by duncfost01 on Apr 26, 2023 16:17:31 GMT 1
Apparently he is driving everyone mad at Blackburn. Not the best liked and that comes from one of their 1st team players.
Big ego.
Sell and move on for me.
Koroma I would offer a contract.
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Post by bells ringing :) on Apr 26, 2023 16:22:02 GMT 1
Apparently he is driving everyone mad at Blackburn. Not the best liked and that comes from one of their 1st team players. Big ego. Sell and move on for me. Koroma I would offer a contract. I have also been told this , by very reliable sources at Town. His ego has become out of control, this is one of the season why we took blackburns offer.
I have seen far better players at Town then Thomas, yet they were not given the level of excuses that this guy has been given.
I hope we do sell and move on, there are many players out there, with far more talent than Thomas, with a dam less ego.
Last season the team carried him, this year we could not carry a glorified set piece taker.
Warnock thinks he could have got a tune out of Thomas, Warnock question for you "what if Thomas didn't want to be got a tun out of ?
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Post by galpharm2400 on Apr 26, 2023 16:33:21 GMT 1
He was good for us last season. He wasnt this season. He might be good next season if we stay here but if a good offer comes in and there is no guarantee it will, he can go for me. That he did nothing the other night and still managed to get involved in stupidity says a lot, im afraid.
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Post by brighousebandbred on Apr 26, 2023 18:56:24 GMT 1
A strange view. When fans don’t rate a player ( due to simple things like work rate etc) they are called pubescent knobheads etc. but if they themselves rate the player , they are obviously not pubescent knobheads. Personally I will let the club decide his fate, and either way not too bothered .
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Post by Teddington Ted on Apr 26, 2023 19:01:16 GMT 1
Good stats, poor player.
Be honest - if he’s in space behind the defence does anyone ever think he will do anything? Poor technically, poor mentally. Lacks nous and composure. Take his set pieces away and he’s basically Junior Mendes with bigger hair.
Needs to move to get a big contract before he’s rumbled. We should take what we can get for him and count ourselves lucky.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Apr 26, 2023 19:18:46 GMT 1
Good stats, poor player. Be honest - if he’s in space behind the defence does anyone ever think he will do anything? Poor technically, poor mentally. Lacks nous and composure. Take his set pieces away and he’s basically Junior Mendes with bigger hair. Needs to move to get a big contract before he’s rumbled. We should take what we can get for him and count ourselves lucky. This x100 I haven't missed watching him one bit. His hissy fits on the floor after being fairly dispossessed did my head in.
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Post by 28901 on Apr 26, 2023 21:05:14 GMT 1
For me, he’s a very frustrating player to watch. Undoubtedly, he is a great asset at set pieces but in open play, he winds me up to high heaven. He pulls out of some tackles and also does that action like he’s going to go all in, then pulls out. Fake aggression I call it. He doesn’t have a turn of pace and rarely gets in behind a defender as they know they can easily out muscle him. I watched last night and what summed him up was him starting the handbags with Cork but quickly fleeing the scene once it started looking tasty. Always crosses from miles out as well, rather than run at them. Maybe he was told to.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2023 21:36:40 GMT 1
Next season we need to build a team. Players who play for each other and the club. If we get recruitment right this summer, plus the players we have, I think we can do better than Sorba. I think, for all his set piece delivery, he is quite one dimensional. Maybe a good manager could improve him but it may be too late at Town. I think a move will be best for him and us.
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Post by rockwall on Apr 26, 2023 22:13:21 GMT 1
He will end up plying his trade bottom end champ/top end LG1.
Doesn't have enough end product for me to go higher.
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Post by 28901 on Apr 26, 2023 23:14:14 GMT 1
A strange view. When fans don’t rate a player ( due to simple things like work rate etc) they are called pubescent knobheads etc. but if they themselves rate the player , they are obviously not pubescent knobheads. Personally I will let the club decide his fate, and either way not too bothered . I don't think you know what pre pubescent knobheads were saying about him on social media. Nothing to do with him as a player. Spreading appalling unsubstantiated and incorrect rumours as facts. Can you even imagine what its like to be labelled a peadophile on social media?
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