King Curtis
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Post by King Curtis on Aug 27, 2022 21:08:48 GMT 1
MK Dons fans did say he’ll play 4, miss 4 You can be the best player in the world but if you’re going to miss as many games as you play, what’s the point? Michael Owen was a superb goalscorer but after that first injury at Real Madrid, he missed more games than he played and was never the same player. The injury that ruined Owen happened a long time before he went to Madrid. |
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Post by sapphireblue on Aug 27, 2022 21:09:49 GMT 1
we were so lucky today. west brom must be absolutely gutted. Bullshit. |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Aug 27, 2022 21:20:52 GMT 1
we were so lucky today. west brom must be absolutely gutted. Bullshit. You must be one of the handful that thought we weren't because West Brom could have easily strolled off with 3 points today with a bit better finishing. |
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Post by Tim Nice But Dim on Aug 27, 2022 21:25:29 GMT 1
That is really worrying if Schofield thought Russell was excellent, even a little kid behind me kept saying to his dad "that player is crap".
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Post by htafcdreams on Aug 27, 2022 21:30:48 GMT 1
Thought it was a decent game against WBA interms of entertainment.
WBA I thought in the first half were very poor. Poor shape and sloppy passes across the field. Thought in the first half Town were the better side however it was really two moments of brilliance by Tino which allowed us to be 2-0 up. Town had a decent shape and more organised in the first half verses other matches this season.
In the second half we struggled, lost our shape and WBA looked the better side. We struggled to keep possession and control the game
Positives, I thought Ruffles had on of his best performances in. Town shirt after a very poor start this season. However I do think WBA didn’t do their homework as they predominantly went down Towns right.
Nichols was superb again. Some super saves in each half and kept Town in the game. Nicholls has been immense again this season interms of saves.
Tino was exceptional and expect that to be one of the best goals in his career.
Camara was positive when he came on and provided well needed energy in the middle.
Sorba was better today interms of helping out teammates defensively as he’s been up the field many times and not getting back.
Turton had a solid game and no mistakes.
REG had a decent game.
Negatives. I thought the Schofield should of changed things earlier. Again Rhodes getting 10 mins I feel is unfair with Ward picking up a knock at 60 mins and decided to play him even thought wasn’t moving right. Rhodes deserves more opportunities as Ward I feel isn’t in the same form as last year.
Russell, was reasonable in the first half but when the tempo of the game picked up in the second half he looked a passenger. Russell often misplaced passes, too slow, lost the ball when trying to run with the ball. Camara looked more suited to closing space down, tackles and moving with the ball.
We’ve not seen much of Boyle but from what I’ve seen I’m not sure this level is for him. Got away with the foul on Grant today. He’s excellent in the air but tackling/playing at feet he seems too slow and often opposition too quick for him. It’s sad really as he’s come back to home club and it’s looking like limited game time.
Rudoni is a bright spark and gifted player but unfortunately today not many long passes came off, more errors than we’ve seen before in second half. Did wonder if tiredness was creeping in as had done so much running today ( maybe Russell’s shift too interms of running on the pitch)
Overall I think Schofield is getting there slowly and maybe some more signings will help the options off the bench. The central midfield area seems to be missing something. Rudoni is a great player and well suited. Hogg getting older, who will replace him (no way Russell) and that 3rd player to help the central area.
Think there are some players who have been use to playing a certain way under Carlos and they aren’t easy to change to suit Schofield more direct style of play.
UTT
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Post by sapphireblue on Aug 27, 2022 21:33:50 GMT 1
You must be one of the handful that thought we weren't because West Brom could have easily strolled off with 3 points today with a bit better finishing. Oh Eeyore, you think a handful out of 18,000 might disagree with you. You are so far up your own pipe it's untrue. |
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Post by araucaria on Aug 27, 2022 21:38:30 GMT 1
I'd "like" this post twice if I could. We don't know if Schofield will turn out to be a great coach or not, but if the reports of him being "highly rated within the game" are accurate (and tbf I've only heard that from within the club) then he deserves the time we afforded Carlos at the very least. It's clear to anyone with eyes and a brain that what's holding WBA back is their "experienced" manager. Would I swap Schofield for Bruce? Not in a million years. It's not as if we've got stacks of cash to throw at someone like Sean Dyche either. I’d give us more chance of staying up under Bruce than Schofield. Hey lou, didn't you take over from Bruce in this division many years ago? |
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Post by griffa on Aug 27, 2022 21:41:38 GMT 1
Apologies was airing my frustrations with the wider negative crew on here there. The concerns are valid but I believe they are being addressed Fair enough. I hope they are being addressed, because I don't really want to watch Nicholls whacking the ball up to an isolated Ward all season. Agree with your comments, I sit in that area of the ground, almost inline with the tackle, not a penalty for me - UTT. |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Aug 27, 2022 21:43:12 GMT 1
Fair enough. I hope they are being addressed, because I don't really want to watch Nicholls whacking the ball up to an isolated Ward all season. Agree with your comments, I sit in that area of the ground, almost inline with the tackle, not a penalty for me - UTT. Clear penalty, just shown it on the highlights programme. |
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Aug 27, 2022 21:44:20 GMT 1
That is really worrying if Schofield thought Russell was excellent, even a little kid behind me kept saying to his dad "that player is crap". A Head Coach supporting a player who is currently struggling with form and confidence. Not sure what's really worrying you? |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Aug 27, 2022 21:50:36 GMT 1
That is really worrying if Schofield thought Russell was excellent, even a little kid behind me kept saying to his dad "that player is crap". A Head Coach supporting a player who is currently struggling with form and confidence. Not sure what's really worrying you? Yeah but why would you say a player was excellent when he wasn't? Why not just say he didn't play well,he knows that and he's a good player and he'll come good again? Not just come out and make yourself look stupid by saying he was excellent when 18000 folk can see with their own eyes he was anything but. |
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Post by offsideclyde on Aug 27, 2022 22:00:59 GMT 1
Very lucky today.
WBA by far the better team.
Thank god we have a premier League quality keeper.
A point we should be very happy to steal.
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Aug 27, 2022 22:02:56 GMT 1
Russell needed to step up today with Hogg missing.
He didn’t.
He only thrives when he has space.
He only has space when Hogg plays.
Overall, with a patched up defence I thought a point today was just about right.
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Post by stevvy on Aug 27, 2022 22:03:00 GMT 1
Bloody annoying to throw away a 2 goal lead, but at the same time we played some decent stuff at times, albeit in the 2nd half they did seem to pick us apart with ease at times, but I think we did reasonably enough.
Could have been better obviously, but at the same time it was a billion times better than the first half of the Burnley and Birmingham games in particular.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2022 22:16:16 GMT 1
The biggest worry for me at the moment is the fitness of the players. They all seem battered after an hour or so. Schofield was slow to make a sub today. Tino was struggling to move before the equaliser then he got brought off. He should have been off 5-10 mins earlier. We’ve just had a 10 day break from games and DS mentioned how well they used them 10 days, but as far as I can see we’re still not fit. Which ones looked tired? Danny explained Tino’s tiredness. Who else looked tired? Did you see Ruffels run and shot near the end? Sorba covered acres of ground start to finish. KKH was like a whippet all game. They passed through us, they didn’t run around us. |
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Aug 27, 2022 22:17:55 GMT 1
The biggest worry for me at the moment is the fitness of the players. They all seem battered after an hour or so. Schofield was slow to make a sub today. Tino was struggling to move before the equaliser then he got brought off. He should have been off 5-10 mins earlier. We’ve just had a 10 day break from games and DS mentioned how well they used them 10 days, but as far as I can see we’re still not fit. Which ones looked tired? Danny explained Tino’s tiredness. Who else looked tired? Did you see Ruffels run and shot near the end? Sorba covered acres of ground start to finish. KKH was like a whippet all game. They passed through us, they didn’t run around us. Agree. And Sorba looked much like his old self today. |
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Post by harris on Aug 27, 2022 22:18:59 GMT 1
Russell needed to step up today with Hogg missing. He didn’t. He only thrives when he has space. He only has space when Hogg plays. Overall, with a patched up defence I thought a point today was just about right. He only had space when O’Brien played, he’s struggled with Hogg plenty of times already this seasom |
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Post by benhomly on Aug 27, 2022 22:19:03 GMT 1
I'm still at a loss as to what Schofield's tactical philosophy is. There was some lovely individual bits of play amongst all that but no control of the game, that gaping hole between the defence and midfield again, and some of that ridiculous disorganised ball chasing defending we saw in Carlos' first season. 2 cracking goals from Tino, what a player. Ruffels would've been a great goal but it made me laugh as it was just another first time hoof from him. Entertaining game of football but I think we're definitely in trouble here. I was prepared to be patient for the first few games, but at the end of the day we're in the relegation zone. Now I'm wondering how long is long enough Were you still laughing to yourself when you saw on the highlights that it was anything but another first time hoof from Ruffels? If that had been Tino no doubt you’d have been disappointed that a great strike hadn’t resulted in his hat trick. Town fans eh? You couldn’t make it up. |
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Post by harris on Aug 27, 2022 22:20:16 GMT 1
The biggest worry for me at the moment is the fitness of the players. They all seem battered after an hour or so. Schofield was slow to make a sub today. Tino was struggling to move before the equaliser then he got brought off. He should have been off 5-10 mins earlier. We’ve just had a 10 day break from games and DS mentioned how well they used them 10 days, but as far as I can see we’re still not fit. Which ones looked tired? Danny explained Tino’s tiredness. Who else looked tired? Did you see Ruffels run and shot near the end? Sorba covered acres of ground start to finish. KKH was like a whippet all game. They passed through us, they didn’t run around us. The fact we couldn’t hold onto the ball for more than 5 seconds that second half, and didn’t press them whatsoever, suggests we were definitely tired as a whole |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2022 22:21:30 GMT 1
Russell needed to step up today with Hogg missing. He didn’t. He only thrives when he has space. He only has space when Hogg plays. Overall, with a patched up defence I thought a point today was just about right. I haven’t quite got my head around Russell. He can do some good stuff then look completely nonplussed. There wasn’t much link up play between him and Rudoni but that could just be them not playing much together yet. He looks like he needs to get more fired up when he plays. His work hassling their player before our second goal he should be doing all the time. |
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Post by harris on Aug 27, 2022 22:21:37 GMT 1
On a plus note I thought Ruffels actually looked decent today for the first time this season. Strong and quick and so close to a worldie to win it. Hopefully this is the start of a turton esque rise
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Aug 27, 2022 22:25:01 GMT 1
Which ones looked tired? Danny explained Tino’s tiredness. Who else looked tired? Did you see Ruffels run and shot near the end? Sorba covered acres of ground start to finish. KKH was like a whippet all game. They passed through us, they didn’t run around us. The fact we couldn’t hold onto the ball for more than 5 seconds that second half, and didn’t press them whatsoever, suggests we were definitely tired as a whole If we are tired as a whole after 5 games, what's the issue? Is it the general fitness of the players? Given the importance put on fitness these days within the game, one has to ask, why would we be tired as a 'whole'? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2022 22:25:08 GMT 1
Which ones looked tired? Danny explained Tino’s tiredness. Who else looked tired? Did you see Ruffels run and shot near the end? Sorba covered acres of ground start to finish. KKH was like a whippet all game. They passed through us, they didn’t run around us. The fact we couldn’t hold onto the ball for more than 5 seconds that second half, and didn’t press them whatsoever, suggests we were definitely tired as a whole Nothing to do with tiredness. Poor link up play and we dropped deep, again, when they upped their game. Also we pressed them very well last 10-15 minutes. We got our tails up and went for them. We need more of that. It is not tiredness though. |
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Post by nicovaesen on Aug 27, 2022 23:06:21 GMT 1
You must be one of the handful that thought we weren't because West Brom could have easily strolled off with 3 points today with a bit better finishing. [br So could we |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Aug 27, 2022 23:10:56 GMT 1
You must be one of the handful that thought we weren't because West Brom could have easily strolled off with 3 points today with a bit better finishing. [br So could we Aside from Rhodes header did we have any chances? |
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Post by griffa on Aug 27, 2022 23:11:17 GMT 1
Which ones looked tired? Danny explained Tino’s tiredness. Who else looked tired? Did you see Ruffels run and shot near the end? Sorba covered acres of ground start to finish. KKH was like a whippet all game. They passed through us, they didn’t run around us. The fact we couldn’t hold onto the ball for more than 5 seconds that second half, and didn’t press them whatsoever, suggests we were definitely tired as a whole Giving the ball away in our own half is criminal, frequently with a misplaced pass - UTT. |
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Post by richhtfc on Aug 27, 2022 23:11:23 GMT 1
Thought it was a decent game against WBA interms of entertainment. WBA I thought in the first half were very poor. Poor shape and sloppy passes across the field. Thought in the first half Town were the better side however it was really two moments of brilliance by Tino which allowed us to be 2-0 up. Town had a decent shape and more organised in the first half verses other matches this season. In the second half we struggled, lost our shape and WBA looked the better side. We struggled to keep possession and control the game Positives, I thought Ruffles had on of his best performances in. Town shirt after a very poor start this season. However I do think WBA didn’t do their homework as they predominantly went down Towns right. Nichols was superb again. Some super saves in each half and kept Town in the game. Nicholls has been immense again this season interms of saves. Tino was exceptional and expect that to be one of the best goals in his career. Camara was positive when he came on and provided well needed energy in the middle. Sorba was better today interms of helping out teammates defensively as he’s been up the field many times and not getting back. Turton had a solid game and no mistakes. REG had a decent game. Negatives. I thought the Schofield should of changed things earlier. Again Rhodes getting 10 mins I feel is unfair with Ward picking up a knock at 60 mins and decided to play him even thought wasn’t moving right. Rhodes deserves more opportunities as Ward I feel isn’t in the same form as last year. Russell, was reasonable in the first half but when the tempo of the game picked up in the second half he looked a passenger. Russell often misplaced passes, too slow, lost the ball when trying to run with the ball. Camara looked more suited to closing space down, tackles and moving with the ball. We’ve not seen much of Boyle but from what I’ve seen I’m not sure this level is for him. Got away with the foul on Grant today. He’s excellent in the air but tackling/playing at feet he seems too slow and often opposition too quick for him. It’s sad really as he’s come back to home club and it’s looking like limited game time. Rudoni is a bright spark and gifted player but unfortunately today not many long passes came off, more errors than we’ve seen before in second half. Did wonder if tiredness was creeping in as had done so much running today ( maybe Russell’s shift too interms of running on the pitch) Overall I think Schofield is getting there slowly and maybe some more signings will help the options off the bench. The central midfield area seems to be missing something. Rudoni is a great player and well suited. Hogg getting older, who will replace him (no way Russell) and that 3rd player to help the central area. Think there are some players who have been use to playing a certain way under Carlos and they aren’t easy to change to suit Schofield more direct style of play. UTT Pretty much agree with this word for word. We are light in the middle and back because of injuries and I’m hoping the club know this all too well and we’ll see some incomings soon. |
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Post by griffa on Aug 27, 2022 23:13:42 GMT 1
Aside from Rhodes header did we have any chances? Ruffels hit the post, with keeper beaten, Jordan had another chance, when the WBA tackled him, ball went for a corner - UTT. |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Aug 27, 2022 23:16:20 GMT 1
Aside from Rhodes header did we have any chances? Ruffels hit the post, with keeper beaten, Jordan had another chance, when the WBA tackled him, ball went for a corner - UTT. The Ruffels one isn't a chance per se, it's just a speculative drive, he hit it well mind but anything struck from 25 yards out is not a chance and the Rhodes one is a half chance. We created nothing today basically. |
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Post by turbo2 on Aug 27, 2022 23:20:38 GMT 1
The biggest worry for me at the moment is the fitness of the players. They all seem battered after an hour or so. Schofield was slow to make a sub today. Tino was struggling to move before the equaliser then he got brought off. He should have been off 5-10 mins earlier. We’ve just had a 10 day break from games and DS mentioned how well they used them 10 days, but as far as I can see we’re still not fit. Said exactly that coming out of the ground. We’re just not fit. Blowing out of our arses after 60 mins, some long before that. Lots of positive stuff today against a decent wba. Still think we need a couple of bodies in. |
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