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Post by Tinpot on Aug 30, 2022 13:48:12 GMT 1
Was told this one was done on Friday, believe that still to be the case. UTT I won't believe it until I see his first interview on YouTube. Oh. Wait..
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Post by Tinpot on Aug 30, 2022 16:39:48 GMT 1
My last post aged well, Lees with new deal through to 2025 😅 Surprised they've given him that long considering his age. With the new deals for Lees, Turton & Hogg, it doesn't bode well for any ambitions we might have, as none of these are PL standard. Dean Whitehead wasn't Premier League standard in 2017/18 either. Nor was Hef. Having Championship standard players under contract when you're in the PL isn't a problem.
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Post by runner76 on Aug 30, 2022 16:48:19 GMT 1
Was told this one was done on Friday, believe that still to be the case. UTT I won't believe it until I see his first interview on YouTube. Oh. Wait.. I won't believe it until Maynard confirms it
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Aug 30, 2022 17:11:02 GMT 1
Surprised they've given him that long considering his age. With the new deals for Lees, Turton & Hogg, it doesn't bode well for any ambitions we might have, as none of these are PL standard. Dean Whitehead wasn't Premier League standard in 2017/18 either. Nor was Hef. Having Championship standard players under contract when you're in the PL isn't a problem. It is if you want to stay there and your squad's full of them. Whitehead had several years PL experience. Hefele only played twice as he was injured for most of that season, so we'll never know how he'd have faired if he'd remained fully fit. Whilst being decent Championship players, Turton and Lees have never played in the PL and its unlikely they ever will.
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Post by bluesandtwos on Aug 30, 2022 18:07:46 GMT 1
Dean Whitehead wasn't Premier League standard in 2017/18 either. Nor was Hef. Having Championship standard players under contract when you're in the PL isn't a problem. It is if you want to stay there and your squad's full of them. Whitehead had several years PL experience. Hefele only played twice as he was injured for most of that season, so we'll never know how he'd have faired if he'd remained fully fit. Whilst being decent Championship players, Turton and Lees have never played in the PL and its unlikely they ever will. You are really worried about getting good championship players on long contracts because it could cause us a problem in the Premiership? That is really a concern for you?
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Post by Tinpot on Aug 30, 2022 18:18:49 GMT 1
Dean Whitehead wasn't Premier League standard in 2017/18 either. Nor was Hef. Having Championship standard players under contract when you're in the PL isn't a problem. It is if you want to stay there and your squad's full of them. Whitehead had several years PL experience. Hefele only played twice as he was injured for most of that season, so we'll never know how he'd have faired if he'd remained fully fit. Whilst being decent Championship players, Turton and Lees have never played in the PL and its unlikely they ever will. What's the alternative? Don't give them extended contracts and then need to buy a ready made replacement there and then? Being in a situation where you're desperate is not a great position from which to negotiate with either the player or the selling club. If that squad have just got you promoted, the chances are that even the players who aren't good enough for the PL are going to have suitors in the Championship. If we'd beaten Forest at Wembley do you honestly believe that the salary of (say) Ryan Schofield would have been a major factor in preventing us from adapting in the Premier League? Or that nobody in the Championship would be interested in signing Matty Pearson?
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Aug 30, 2022 19:28:00 GMT 1
It is if you want to stay there and your squad's full of them. Whitehead had several years PL experience. Hefele only played twice as he was injured for most of that season, so we'll never know how he'd have faired if he'd remained fully fit. Whilst being decent Championship players, Turton and Lees have never played in the PL and its unlikely they ever will. What's the alternative? Don't give them extended contracts and then need to buy a ready made replacement there and then? Being in a situation where you're desperate is not a great position from which to negotiate with either the player or the selling club. If that squad have just got you promoted, the chances are that even the players who aren't good enough for the PL are going to have suitors in the Championship. If we'd beaten Forest at Wembley do you honestly believe that the salary of (say) Ryan Schofield would have been a major factor in preventing us from adapting in the Premier League? Or that nobody in the Championship would be interested in signing Matty Pearson? I'm talking about offering long contracts to players aged 30 years plus. They're unlikely to get any better and I don't see the need to extend by three years when they still had another year to go.
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Aug 30, 2022 19:31:12 GMT 1
It is if you want to stay there and your squad's full of them. Whitehead had several years PL experience. Hefele only played twice as he was injured for most of that season, so we'll never know how he'd have faired if he'd remained fully fit. Whilst being decent Championship players, Turton and Lees have never played in the PL and its unlikely they ever will. You are really worried about getting good championship players on long contracts because it could cause us a problem in the Premiership? That is really a concern for you? At a time when money is obviously tight, the priority for me should be signing/tying down younger players to long contacts, not players who are unlikely to get any better.
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Post by alexdire on Aug 30, 2022 19:37:39 GMT 1
It is if you want to stay there and your squad's full of them. Whitehead had several years PL experience. Hefele only played twice as he was injured for most of that season, so we'll never know how he'd have faired if he'd remained fully fit. Whilst being decent Championship players, Turton and Lees have never played in the PL and its unlikely they ever will. You are really worried about getting good championship players on long contracts because it could cause us a problem in the Premiership? That is really a concern for you? I'd love us to sign good championship players. But we aren't. We seem to be signing good lower and non-league players.
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Post by Next Manager coming soon on Aug 30, 2022 20:08:10 GMT 1
Barnsley Chronicle reporter says Helik is at the Barnsley game tonight. Would suggest nothing remotely close to me 🤔
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Post by bluesandtwos on Aug 30, 2022 20:31:51 GMT 1
You are really worried about getting good championship players on long contracts because it could cause us a problem in the Premiership? That is really a concern for you? At a time when money is obviously tight, the priority for me should be signing/tying down younger players to long contacts, not players who are unlikely to get any better. Young players have potential, that is all. You can sign them to long contracts and they may be great and may not be, Josh Koroma is an example. When you have players like Hogg, Lees and Turton, who have a proven record with other teams as well as us then it makes sense to keep hold of them. The youngsters you think are a priority will not develop anywhere near as quickly, or as well, without the older pros to help them.
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Post by bluesandtwos on Aug 30, 2022 20:33:11 GMT 1
You are really worried about getting good championship players on long contracts because it could cause us a problem in the Premiership? That is really a concern for you? I'd love us to sign good championship players. But we aren't. We seem to be signing good lower and non-league players. I think this is about extending the contracts of experienced players that have proven themselves at Championship level, not the ones being brought in.
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Post by johncoddington5 on Aug 30, 2022 21:15:22 GMT 1
Barnsley Chronicle reporter says Helik is at the Barnsley game tonight. Would suggest nothing remotely close to me 🤔 Helix hasn’t played since March because of injury. Let’s not wish for a signing who can’t play for several weeks
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Post by digs on Aug 31, 2022 8:13:37 GMT 1
Barnsley Chronicle reporter says Helik is at the Barnsley game tonight. Would suggest nothing remotely close to me 🤔 Helix hasn’t played since March because of injury. Let’s not wish for a signing who can’t play for several weeks won't make much difference,he will still have to sit on the bench untill he's deemed bad enough to play in our team
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Post by mosher on Aug 31, 2022 9:28:40 GMT 1
Pissed myself laughing, but I wonder if Brererton Carlos Sanchez Diaz (or whatever the fuck he's called now) thought the same kind of thing before Chile came calling?
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Post by daltonterrier44 on Aug 31, 2022 14:15:23 GMT 1
Alan Nixon tweeted we are trying to get Will Boyle out on loan as we’re trying for other defenders, this could be what’s holding the Helik deal back.
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Post by shawsie on Aug 31, 2022 16:31:38 GMT 1
Alan Nixon tweeted we are trying to get Will Boyle out on loan as we’re trying for other defenders, this could be what’s holding the Helik deal back. If it is then despite my earlier post some might have licence to moan a bit!
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Post by Lightcliffe Terrier on Aug 31, 2022 16:36:50 GMT 1
Alan Nixon tweeted we are trying to get Will Boyle out on loan as we’re trying for other defenders, this could be what’s holding the Helik deal back. Bet Barnsley would take Boyle his old Cheltenham manager is there now?
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Post by Toxic Ted on Aug 31, 2022 17:18:30 GMT 1
Great stuff!
Sign Boyle, realise he’s not good enough 3 weeks into the season but can’t replace him until we find some other mugs to pay his wages. The price of doing everything on the cheap.
50p says he’s on the bench on Saturday and the gaffer declares he has full confidence in his abilities!
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Aug 31, 2022 17:21:24 GMT 1
Great stuff! Sign Boyle, realise he’s not good enough 3 weeks into the season but can’t replace him until we find some other mugs to pay his wages. The price of doing everything on the cheap. 50p says he’s on the bench on Saturday and the gaffer declares he has full confidence in his abilities! If you mean our bench, I'll take you up on that.
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Post by ldotm on Aug 31, 2022 17:25:07 GMT 1
Great stuff! Sign Boyle, realise he’s not good enough 3 weeks into the season but can’t replace him until we find some other mugs to pay his wages. The price of doing everything on the cheap. 50p says he’s on the bench on Saturday and the gaffer declares he has full confidence in his abilities! Relax.. at least they’ve realised and taking action to replace with better players, instead of accepting it and not doing a thing. It’s almost like nobody else makes wrong decisions in the transfer window…
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Post by dm on Aug 31, 2022 17:25:18 GMT 1
Was anyone under the impression Boyle WAS going to be Championship quality?
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Post by Toxic Ted on Aug 31, 2022 17:37:42 GMT 1
Great stuff! Sign Boyle, realise he’s not good enough 3 weeks into the season but can’t replace him until we find some other mugs to pay his wages. The price of doing everything on the cheap. 50p says he’s on the bench on Saturday and the gaffer declares he has full confidence in his abilities! If you mean our bench, I'll take you up on that. Right you are. If he’s not I’ll put a shiny 50p in a charity tin on your behalf. Alright with you?
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Aug 31, 2022 17:39:10 GMT 1
If you mean our bench, I'll take you up on that. Right you are. If he’s not I’ll put a shiny 50p in a charity tin on your behalf. Alright with you? You better put it in now because we don't play until Sunday
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Post by Toxic Ted on Aug 31, 2022 17:47:04 GMT 1
This is why I’ll never be rich. Well played 🙌
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Post by Porrohman on Aug 31, 2022 18:28:23 GMT 1
Was anyone under the impression Boyle WAS going to be Championship quality? Ted 😉
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Post by terriers2000 on Aug 31, 2022 18:28:43 GMT 1
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Aug 31, 2022 18:29:21 GMT 1
He's just confirmed Mbete as well
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Post by ruggedivy on Aug 31, 2022 18:31:19 GMT 1
Like it when a plan comes together
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Post by boooothy on Aug 31, 2022 18:35:30 GMT 1
Those 2 would be outstanding signings in my book and transform the look of our starting 11.
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