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Post by yorik on Aug 30, 2022 11:06:06 GMT 1
For all the money Forest have spent they still don't have a 15 goal striker to help keep them up very light weight up front for all there huffing and puffing,Lingard at some point will spot out his dummy and just run around in circles. Forest and Bournemouth to go down for me, Fulham I can see just staying up because of Mitrovitch goals. What goes around comes around with Forest and will be in financial trouble next season in the championship
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Post by turbo2 on Aug 30, 2022 11:08:13 GMT 1
The most amusing thing about all of Forest’s signings is, despite signing 67 new players, they don’t have a proper striker. I believe they’ve signed like 3 players for every position, except up front. Honestly not sure why they need the depth of Renan Lodi, Richards and Toff at left back - as much as I was fuming when he left for them, I kind of feel sorry for the bloke, once Richards is back fit he’s 3rd choice. They actually played well against spurs but like you say, no real strikers bought. I really do think this isn’t going to end well for them. 18 already in through the door and apparently 2 more to come. Not sure how many have left but they could have 4 teams worth of players. Relegation will see them go bust big time. The Greek owner probably thinks the EU will bail them out when it all implodes.
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Post by 3Pipe on Aug 30, 2022 11:32:04 GMT 1
John Robertson was one hell of a player though.
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Post by foxtrot666 on Aug 30, 2022 11:37:31 GMT 1
The most amusing thing about all of Forest’s signings is, despite signing 67 new players, they don’t have a proper striker. I believe they’ve signed like 3 players for every position, except up front. Honestly not sure why they need the depth of Renan Lodi, Richards and Toff at left back - as much as I was fuming when he left for them, I kind of feel sorry for the bloke, once Richards is back fit he’s 3rd choice.Back on loan in January.
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Post by Galpharmer on Aug 30, 2022 12:17:17 GMT 1
Can’t even be arsed posting Nottingham. Hope the hypocritical wankers go down because of VAR, then go bust. Twice.
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Aug 30, 2022 12:18:38 GMT 1
John Robertson was one hell of a player though. A proper winger who rarely strayed more than a couple of yards from the touchline.
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Aug 30, 2022 12:46:47 GMT 1
A quick Google tells me that Marinakis is worth about £600m. Mad sums that he's spent this summer, not just in terms of transfer fees but the wage bill must have doubled or more.
All very risky because they were miles away from being competitive at premier league level with their squad at the end of last season, minus the loan players.
Cooper does seem to be a pretty good manager, although not quite as good as the hype makes out. Think they're hugely reliant on Johnson and need Awoniyi to make the grade as a premier league quality striker because I don't see where they're getting goals from really.
They were naively attacking on Sunday, if Spurs were properly at it they could have had a good few more. Would've thought they'd be better off playing on the counter because their back 3 looks incredibly vulnerable to a fast break.
They've had a relatively easy start so far, if they don't win against Bournemouth then it puts them in a tricky spot. As we know it's very important to get off to a strong start otherwise the belief can drain from players that haven't played at this level before.
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Post by Tinpot on Aug 30, 2022 13:43:05 GMT 1
And, hopefully, they'll fail miserably, get relegated and go bust And like Blackburn after lording it over us with Rhodes, they'll be on here asking if we want to donate to their protest against the owners who ran them into the ground. TBF whilst there were a few Bertie Big Bollocks types from Blackburn U don't think they were in Forest's league in that regard. But yeah, fuck em.
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Post by Orinoco on Aug 30, 2022 14:06:35 GMT 1
John Robertson was one hell of a player though. So was Archie Gemmill.
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Post by Gold Coast Terrier on Aug 30, 2022 14:09:20 GMT 1
And like Blackburn after lording it over us with Rhodes, they'll be on here asking if we want to donate to their protest against the owners who ran them into the ground. TBF whilst there were a few Bertie Big Bollocks types from Blackburn U don't think they were in Forest's league in that regard. But yeah, fuck em. Yeah all clubs have them but I’m actually amazed just how insufferable Forest’s fan base seems to be. I’ve seen West Ham fans mentioning it too, after they’ve been ‘bantered’ over Lingard.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Aug 30, 2022 14:19:49 GMT 1
They need to use their momentum, which is unlikely to happen tomorrow v Man C.
After that they have a run of games where they might fancy themselves to get a few points, but if that doesn’t go well that momentum will be all but shot.
The PL, it’s a battle for 17th place for most clubs, what a sad indictment of elite sport. Their owner is clearly trying to keep them there for the money alone, which if he succeeds will he invest or cream off the top?
As much as I would like to return to the PL, the biggest achievement will actually be getting there, it’s the journey to achieve success that means something. After that it all falls flat knowing the odds are stacked against you, and as much as I loved the Chelsea game to retain our status, it’s not the same feeling as actually winning something tangible.
Winning survival isn’t really sport is it…
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Post by galpharm2400 on Aug 30, 2022 14:37:42 GMT 1
They need to use their momentum, which is unlikely to happen tomorrow v Man C. After that they have a run of games where they might fancy themselves to get a few points, but if that doesn’t go well that momentum will be all but shot. The PL, it’s a battle for 17th place for most clubs, what a sad indictment of elite sport. Their owner is clearly trying to keep them there for the money alone, which if he succeeds will he invest or cream off the top? As much as I would like to return to the PL, the biggest achievement will actually be getting there, it’s the journey to achieve success that means something. After that it all falls flat knowing the odds are stacked against you, and as much as I loved the Chelsea game to retain our status, it’s not the same feeling as actually winning something tangible. Winning survival isn’t really sport is it… Spending tens of millions plus, just to be the least worst??? Leicester did ok to break the monopoly but its unlikely to be allowed to happen again. Lower premier teams dont care about the league cup so a survival and a bit of an FA cup run is the limit of their multi million pound 'ambition'. Championship has more to offer for me but success here for us is top 6 and give it a go, at the moment. I personally dont think its as expensive an aim as some others do.
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Post by townarentbest on Aug 30, 2022 14:39:51 GMT 1
Bournemouth are a massive 1 point behind the absolutely scarily awesome Notts Forest but having played Liverpool, Arsenal and Man City already. Ridiculous. Thats a fair point. But I watched the forest spurs game the other day and forest look like a side capable of staying up to me. Dont think Bournemouth do. Bournemouth do however look like the kind of project/challenge that David Wagner might take on?
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Post by Mastercracker on Aug 30, 2022 14:47:07 GMT 1
They need to use their momentum, which is unlikely to happen tomorrow v Man C. After that they have a run of games where they might fancy themselves to get a few points, but if that doesn’t go well that momentum will be all but shot. The PL, it’s a battle for 17th place for most clubs, what a sad indictment of elite sport. Their owner is clearly trying to keep them there for the money alone, which if he succeeds will he invest or cream off the top? As much as I would like to return to the PL, the biggest achievement will actually be getting there, it’s the journey to achieve success that means something. After that it all falls flat knowing the odds are stacked against you, and as much as I loved the Chelsea game to retain our status, it’s not the same feeling as actually winning something tangible. Winning survival isn’t really sport is it… Given what they've spent and what their wage bill is now there won't be anything to cream off the top. Their wage bill will be up around the £100m mark now.
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Post by Dan on Aug 30, 2022 14:56:24 GMT 1
Thats a fair point. But I watched the forest spurs game the other day and forest look like a side capable of staying up to me. Dont think Bournemouth do. Bournemouth do however look like the kind of project/challenge that David Wagner might take on? Bournemouth looked doomed before a ball was even kicked. Be interested to see what manager takes on a club destined for relegation...
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Post by townarentbest on Aug 30, 2022 15:24:53 GMT 1
Bournemouth do however look like the kind of project/challenge that David Wagner might take on? Bournemouth looked doomed before a ball was even kicked. Be interested to see what manager takes on a club destined for relegation... One that fancies their chances of seeing good investment next summer, and who has to manage a top flight club this season if he wants to continue to meet the regulations and be allowed to manage in England next season onwards?
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Post by drumriggend on Aug 30, 2022 15:43:58 GMT 1
c****..
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Post by sonny on Aug 30, 2022 16:19:10 GMT 1
Forest will stay up. Time will pass. They will discover for all the zillions spent they are the new Stoke. And they will wonder what the point of it all is.
Bournemouth situation is amusing. The owner talks about the club being 'sustainable' after years of hurling cash at a club with 5000 supporters. Their death spiral is around the corner.
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Post by brighousebandbred on Aug 30, 2022 17:11:35 GMT 1
Forest will stay up. Time will pass. They will discover for all the zillions spent they are the new Stoke. And they will wonder what the point of it all is. Bournemouth situation is amusing. The owner talks about the club being 'sustainable' after years of hurling cash at a club with 5000 supporters. Their death spiral is around the corner. Very true but how sad that football has gone this way, no club can now even dream about the miracle of competing never mind winning the league now, the game has gone. Forest spend nearly 200 million in promotion and it’s nothing . The global super powers of football spend that for fun every year. Man Utd literally just splashed it on Antony and Cassamero . Can totally see how owners like DH try to run clubs sensibly because the alternative is frightening.
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Post by Terriersmad on Aug 30, 2022 17:31:36 GMT 1
Forest will stay up. Time will pass. They will discover for all the zillions spent they are the new Stoke. And they will wonder what the point of it all is. Bournemouth situation is amusing. The owner talks about the club being 'sustainable' after years of hurling cash at a club with 5000 supporters. Their death spiral is around the corner. Forest needed momentum and their early season run hasn't really built any. They haven't scored enough goals either. One analyst or another worked out that each goal in the division is worth a point. At the moment, they're punching above their goals because of the small number of games played. We'll see how things go later in the season. Bournemouth have a Russian owner who has suddenly decided to go down the route of sustainability now after years of throwing money at it. I'll say nothing further. I may be wrong in my implications, but I sincerely doubt it.
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Post by bluedogs, Esq. on Aug 30, 2022 17:51:46 GMT 1
John Robertson was one hell of a player though. So was Archie Gemmill. Rather controversial so was Pierre van Hooijdonk.
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Post by jim59 on Aug 30, 2022 17:55:33 GMT 1
Forest fans not very positive about Toffolo
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Post by Orinoco on Aug 30, 2022 17:58:56 GMT 1
Rather controversial so was Pierre van Hooijdonk. Remember him most for the wonder goal v Argies i was only young at the time!!
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Aug 30, 2022 18:12:55 GMT 1
Whilst I wish them all the bad luck in the world you can’t help but admire the effort Florists are making to stop in the premier league ,see they have already signed Toffolo replacement ,you can see why the prem league went to the effort they did to ensure they went up instead of us . It’s all sad but they are with the big boys and trying their hardest to stay there ,maybe risky but the benefits are there for all to see if they pull it off . Absolutely ridiculous football is dead. I really hope they go bust and liquidated asap
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Post by richhtfc on Aug 30, 2022 18:29:42 GMT 1
Bournemouth looked doomed before a ball was even kicked. Be interested to see what manager takes on a club destined for relegation... One that fancies their chances of seeing good investment next summer, and who has to manage a top flight club this season if he wants to continue to meet the regulations and be allowed to manage in England next season onwards? I’d be amazed if he got a premier league job now, I think his stock has fallen quite a bit after Shalke & Young Boys
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Post by Galpharmer on Aug 30, 2022 18:57:02 GMT 1
One that fancies their chances of seeing good investment next summer, and who has to manage a top flight club this season if he wants to continue to meet the regulations and be allowed to manage in England next season onwards? I’d be amazed if he got a premier league job now, I think his stock has fallen quite a bit after Shalke & Young Boys Young Boys have killed many a career. Apart from Cliff.
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Aug 30, 2022 19:10:12 GMT 1
Rather controversial so was Pierre van Hooijdonk. Remember him most for the wonder goal v Argies i was only young at the time!! Pedant alert *Gemmill's goal was against the Dutch in Argentina.
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Post by aloadofdbullocks on Aug 30, 2022 19:13:33 GMT 1
Bournemouth are a massive 1 point behind the absolutely scarily awesome Notts Forest but having played Liverpool, Arsenal and Man City already. Ridiculous. Thats a fair point. But I watched the forest spurs game the other day and forest look like a side capable of staying up to me. Dont think Bournemouth do. Aye but you are condemning Bournemouth based on four matches, three of which were possibly against the top three sides in the Premier league but on the WBA thread you don’t agree with Town fans when they express their concerns as it’s only been 5 games so far?🤔
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Post by Orinoco on Aug 30, 2022 19:40:45 GMT 1
Remember him most for the wonder goal v Argies i was only young at the time!! Pedant alert *Gemmill's goal was against the Dutch in Argentina. i was only 12 knew argentina the country was involved!!.
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Post by Porrohman on Aug 30, 2022 19:46:40 GMT 1
Remember him most for the wonder goal v Argies i was only young at the time!! Pedant alert *Gemmill's goal was against the Dutch in Argentina. I was trying to think of PVH scoring against Argentina 🙄😁
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