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Post by terrierbite on Aug 30, 2022 6:21:49 GMT 1
Whilst I wish them all the bad luck in the world you can’t help but admire the effort Florists are making to stop in the premier league ,see they have already signed Toffolo replacement ,you can see why the prem league went to the effort they did to ensure they went up instead of us .
It’s all sad but they are with the big boys and trying their hardest to stay there ,maybe risky but the benefits are there for all to see if they pull it off .
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Post by Porrohman on Aug 30, 2022 6:32:51 GMT 1
And, hopefully, they'll fail miserably, get relegated and go bust
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Aug 30, 2022 7:04:27 GMT 1
“you can see why the prem league went to the effort they did to ensure they went up instead of us”
This flat earth has a lot to answer for.
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Post by houllierspal on Aug 30, 2022 7:18:04 GMT 1
Be great to see them relegated on the last day of the season courtesy of a wrong/none VAR decision
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Post by Wingman on Aug 30, 2022 7:27:11 GMT 1
Interesting to watch from afar. They’re really trying to make sure they stay up but the danger is that so many new faces don’t gel, or that the squad gets unsettled by the number of new faces. You can only play so many per match.
Plus, (imo) Lingaard is a mercenary, who will walk after this year, and could easily down tools if he doesn’t get back into the England frame. Add to that the likes of Boly who has refused to sit on Wolves bench for a game and Aurier who was allegedly a bad apple at Spurs, and you have a possible recipe for future turmoil.
They’re gambling the PL money big style and if it doesn’t come off, they will be in trouble. Sadly, I think they’ll survive easily, as the likes of Bournemouth just don’t have the depth to survive. As I said to start with, an interesting approach. If it works other teams could follow suit in the future, scarily!
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Post by Gold Coast Terrier on Aug 30, 2022 7:41:10 GMT 1
And, hopefully, they'll fail miserably, get relegated and go bust And like Blackburn after lording it over us with Rhodes, they'll be on here asking if we want to donate to their protest against the owners who ran them into the ground. |
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Post by richhtfc on Aug 30, 2022 7:50:48 GMT 1
Has the potential to go very wrong for them, I’ll be amazed if Cooper can gel this many new players quickly enough.
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Post by tepidterrier on Aug 30, 2022 8:06:48 GMT 1
It is interesting how being a perceived bad loser is expressed in English by so many different taste buds.
In that we're salty that Forest went up after decisions went against us.
We're bitter that they are/were the media darlings and we didn't get our credit where it was due.
Our reactions to goading by their fans and players have been a bit unsavoury, and the whole affair with the ref, losing Lewis and Toff, just left a sour taste.
The law of averages dictates we'll get a sweet taste of something soon. Maybe it's in the oven already, or Marinakis maybe will bomb the bakery!
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Post by leroy212 on Aug 30, 2022 8:50:22 GMT 1
Makes you wonder if toff will play, started so far, but then they sign a new left. Wonder if it will affect morale of some players
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Post by Captainslapper on Aug 30, 2022 9:05:50 GMT 1
Toffolo seems to be playing much higher up the pitch than he did for us. Practically a winger.
You look at the difference between Forest and Bouremouth
One has gone up, not really strengthened much and are now facing 9 months of being regularly cuffed, occasionally humiliated before their inevitable relegation.
The other is massively 'going for it' and has signed practically 2 full teams of big signings..all of whome will see themselves as first team starters.
I think they'll stay up from what ive seen. Player unrest is probably their biggest danger.
If they do go down though they could be in a club ending mess.
As I type just been on news that Bournemouth have sacked Parker. Takes them up and 4 games later gets the sack! Footballs a mad world.
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Post by aloadofdbullocks on Aug 30, 2022 9:10:46 GMT 1
Toffolo seems to be playing much higher up the pitch than he did for us. Practically a winger. You look at the difference between Forest and Bouremouth One has gone up, not really strengthened much and are now facing 9 months of being regularly cuffed, occasionally humiliated before their inevitable relegation. The other is massively 'going for it' and has signed practically 2 full teams of big signings..all of whome will see themselves as first team starters. I think they'll stay up from what ive seen. Player unrest is probably their biggest danger. If they do go down though they could be in a club ending mess. As I type just been on news that Bournemouth have sacked Parker. Takes them up and 4 games later gets the sack! Footballs a mad world. Bournemouth are a massive 1 point behind the absolutely scarily awesome Notts Forest but having played Liverpool, Arsenal and Man City already. Ridiculous. |
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Post by ldr on Aug 30, 2022 9:12:45 GMT 1
Toffolo seems to be playing much higher up the pitch than he did for us. Practically a winger. You look at the difference between Forest and Bouremouth One has gone up, not really strengthened much and are now facing 9 months of being regularly cuffed, occasionally humiliated before their inevitable relegation. The other is massively 'going for it' and has signed practically 2 full teams of big signings..all of whome will see themselves as first team starters. I think they'll stay up from what ive seen. Player unrest is probably their biggest danger. If they do go down though they could be in a club ending mess. As I type just been on news that Bournemouth have sacked Parker. Takes them up and 4 games later gets the sack! Footballs a mad world. I think Parker was sacked for what he said after the Liverpool drubbing. He looked a broken man but he took aim at the owners and pretty much threw his players under a bus. He gave an exemplary lesson on how to lose the boardroom and the dressing room in one afternoon! |
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Post by leroy212 on Aug 30, 2022 9:14:57 GMT 1
Toffolo seems to be playing much higher up the pitch than he did for us. Practically a winger. You look at the difference between Forest and Bouremouth One has gone up, not really strengthened much and are now facing 9 months of being regularly cuffed, occasionally humiliated before their inevitable relegation. The other is massively 'going for it' and has signed practically 2 full teams of big signings..all of whome will see themselves as first team starters. I think they'll stay up from what ive seen. Player unrest is probably their biggest danger. If they do go down though they could be in a club ending mess. As I type just been on news that Bournemouth have sacked Parker. Takes them up and 4 games later gets the sack! Footballs a mad world. Bournemouth are a massive 1 point behind the absolutely scarily awesome Notts Forest but having played Liverpool, Arsenal and Man City already. Ridiculous. seems a daft thing to do, but his post match interview the other day did seem to have a few digs at the board, which cant have helped his cause |
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Post by richhtfc on Aug 30, 2022 9:18:30 GMT 1
Toffolo seems to be playing much higher up the pitch than he did for us. Practically a winger. You look at the difference between Forest and Bouremouth One has gone up, not really strengthened much and are now facing 9 months of being regularly cuffed, occasionally humiliated before their inevitable relegation. The other is massively 'going for it' and has signed practically 2 full teams of big signings..all of whome will see themselves as first team starters. I think they'll stay up from what ive seen. Player unrest is probably their biggest danger. If they do go down though they could be in a club ending mess. As I type just been on news that Bournemouth have sacked Parker. Takes them up and 4 games later gets the sack! Footballs a mad world. I think Parker was sacked for what he said after the Liverpool drubbing. He looked a broken man but he took aim at the owners and pretty much threw his players under a bus. He gave an exemplary lesson on how to lose the boardroom and the dressing room in one afternoon! Agreed, if he hadn’t said there could be more drubbings coming or words to that effect he’d possibly still be there. I think he’s overrated to be honest. |
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Post by townrwe on Aug 30, 2022 9:18:51 GMT 1
Not buying the quality. They have paid premier league money on a decent championship squad... recruitment for me is questionable, failed premier league players and bad apples and some championship players.
A few poor results and the wheels could come off quickly or they survive and are left scratching their heads next season when FFP will already be at its limit.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Aug 30, 2022 9:20:44 GMT 1
The Bournemouth statement mentions something about running a sustainable club?
Probably just a convenient excuse for getting rid.
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Post by space hardware on Aug 30, 2022 9:22:46 GMT 1
The Bournemouth statement mentions something about running a sustainable club? Probably just a convenient excuse for getting rid. Good luck to them if they genuinely want to run a "sustainable" club in the PL on gates of 11k and what must be an absolutely tiny commercial operation 😂 |
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Post by ldr on Aug 30, 2022 9:25:58 GMT 1
I can see Forest turning into a soap opera this season. It could go either way imo.
A couple of things I’ve noticed. Firstly, Cooper doesn’t really have a plan B and he’s going to fucking need one as the season progresses. Despite the stupid plaudits after the Spurs game, he got totally outcoached. I saw a Forest side going hell for leather with almost zero threat in front of goal. The counter attacking of Spurs murdered them.
Secondly, that atmosphere at the City Ground will soon pipe down once the novelty has worn off and teams have worked out how to nullify them.
Finally, as last season, the players are fucking gassed after 70 minutes. They go too hard too early in every game and that attitude will see them dropping vital points in crucial games.
It’s going to be an interesting watch!
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Post by ldr on Aug 30, 2022 9:27:10 GMT 1
The Bournemouth statement mentions something about running a sustainable club? Probably just a convenient excuse for getting rid. Good luck to them if they genuinely want to run a "sustainable" club in the PL on gates of 11k and what must be an absolutely tiny commercial operation 😂 A club built entirely on paying stupid wages. |
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Post by crux on Aug 30, 2022 9:27:33 GMT 1
To be fair, Toffolo and O'Brien have looked OK when I've seen them. Hopefully they play as 'gung ho' against City on Wednesday as they did against Spurs - if so the 9-0 record may get beaten, with Haaland getting all 10 🤞
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Post by Sio on Aug 30, 2022 9:30:01 GMT 1
I've never wanted a club to fail so much in my life.
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Post by benhomly on Aug 30, 2022 9:35:22 GMT 1
I can see Forest turning into a soap opera this season. It could go either way imo. A couple of things I’ve noticed. Firstly, Cooper doesn’t really have a plan B and he’s going to fucking need one as the season progresses. Despite the stupid plaudits after the Spurs game, he got totally outcoached. I saw a Forest side going hell for leather with almost zero threat in front of goal. The counter attacking of Spurs murdered them. Secondly, that atmosphere at the City Ground will soon pipe down once the novelty has worn off and teams have worked out how to nullify them. Finally, as last season, the players are fucking gassed after 70 minutes. They go too hard too early in every game and that attitude will see them dropping vital points in crucial games. It’s going to be an interesting watch! I think it's wishful thinking on our part, think they'll comfortably get enough points against the bottom half of the table. Hope I'm wrong. Watched the game out of interest to see how Toff and Lewis played and neither looked out of place. Spurs were poor on the day, if they'd counter attacked anything like they did against us when we were in the Prem then maybe they would have murdered them but they certainly didn't murder them on Sunday. A scuffed shot by Kane early on and a late goal to seal it doesn't suggest an easy win. Son was a shadow of the player he was last season. |
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Post by joek on Aug 30, 2022 9:48:07 GMT 1
The Bournemouth statement mentions something about running a sustainable club? Probably just a convenient excuse for getting rid. If we’d have won at Wembley we’d have been in a similar position to them but have an even more inferior squad (for Premier League level) than they have. I wouldn’t have wanted us to do anything remotely like Forest have done (not that we would have) and this would have been an incredibly difficult season for us at that level. Still wish we’d won of course. Gap between Prem and Championship getting ridiculous now. Thought Bournemouth probably had beat squad in division last year and still going to be incredible if they stay up. |
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Post by griffa on Aug 30, 2022 9:57:49 GMT 1
Football Roulette - the winnings are then paid to anyone who has placed a successful bet, or not as the case would be!
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Post by ldr on Aug 30, 2022 9:58:30 GMT 1
I can see Forest turning into a soap opera this season. It could go either way imo. A couple of things I’ve noticed. Firstly, Cooper doesn’t really have a plan B and he’s going to fucking need one as the season progresses. Despite the stupid plaudits after the Spurs game, he got totally outcoached. I saw a Forest side going hell for leather with almost zero threat in front of goal. The counter attacking of Spurs murdered them. Secondly, that atmosphere at the City Ground will soon pipe down once the novelty has worn off and teams have worked out how to nullify them. Finally, as last season, the players are fucking gassed after 70 minutes. They go too hard too early in every game and that attitude will see them dropping vital points in crucial games. It’s going to be an interesting watch! I think it's wishful thinking on our part, think they'll comfortably get enough points against the bottom half of the table. Hope I'm wrong. Watched the game out of interest to see how Toff and Lewis played and neither looked out of place. Spurs were poor on the day, if they'd counter attacked anything like they did against us when we were in the Prem then maybe they would have murdered them but they certainly didn't murder them on Sunday. A scuffed shot by Kane early on and a late goal to seal it doesn't suggest an easy win. Son was a shadow of the player he was last season. ‘Murder’ doesn’t have to be pretty! Spurs countered them about 10/12 times. Son missed a one on one, Peresic had two great chances, Kane another. Also the missed penalty. Forest had the Yates header as a clear cut chance. Despite the noise and the pundit arse-licking, Spurs could have won that 4 or 5 without getting out of second gear. |
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Post by King Curtis on Aug 30, 2022 9:58:56 GMT 1
Toffolo seems to be playing much higher up the pitch than he did for us. Practically a winger. You look at the difference between Forest and Bouremouth One has gone up, not really strengthened much and are now facing 9 months of being regularly cuffed, occasionally humiliated before their inevitable relegation. The other is massively 'going for it' and has signed practically 2 full teams of big signings..all of whome will see themselves as first team starters. I think they'll stay up from what ive seen. Player unrest is probably their biggest danger. If they do go down though they could be in a club ending mess. As I type just been on news that Bournemouth have sacked Parker. Takes them up and 4 games later gets the sack! Footballs a mad world. 100% This sacking is naff all to do with any footballing reasons. It's club politics. |
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Post by Captainslapper on Aug 30, 2022 10:09:24 GMT 1
Toffolo seems to be playing much higher up the pitch than he did for us. Practically a winger. You look at the difference between Forest and Bouremouth One has gone up, not really strengthened much and are now facing 9 months of being regularly cuffed, occasionally humiliated before their inevitable relegation. The other is massively 'going for it' and has signed practically 2 full teams of big signings..all of whome will see themselves as first team starters. I think they'll stay up from what ive seen. Player unrest is probably their biggest danger. If they do go down though they could be in a club ending mess. As I type just been on news that Bournemouth have sacked Parker. Takes them up and 4 games later gets the sack! Footballs a mad world. Bournemouth are a massive 1 point behind the absolutely scarily awesome Notts Forest but having played Liverpool, Arsenal and Man City already. Ridiculous. Thats a fair point. But I watched the forest spurs game the other day and forest look like a side capable of staying up to me. Dont think Bournemouth do. |
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Post by colnevalleyblue on Aug 30, 2022 10:12:46 GMT 1
Fulham have made a good start to life back in the top tier and if I was a betting man I'd tip them to stay up this time, it’s cost them a lot of money but as it’s been spread over the course of 4 or 5 years, doesn’t seem as big a gamble as what Forest are doing, although they did spend something in the region of £100 million the same year we came down from the Prem...and they were crap. But Fulham have proven that they are good at bouncing back up, Forest haven’t shown that yet.
Got to accept that Forest’s ‘story’ is far more interesting than what we’d have done (for the neutral), think we’d have spent about 25% what Forest have done and comfortably finished bottom of the league.
Apart from Bournemouth Im really not sure who is going to be relegated in the Premier league but even if Forest survive this time, I reckon they’ll fall hard and fall fast. Except for LOB I doubt they’ll get any profit on the players that they’ve bought and now they’ve demonstrated a willingness to pay over the odds both fee’s and salaries (with the exception of LOB) if these signings don’t work out and they have to dip in the market in 6 months time or 12 months time, they’ll be faced with paying a premium again.
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Post by Orinoco on Aug 30, 2022 10:22:17 GMT 1
Bournemouth are a massive 1 point behind the absolutely scarily awesome Notts Forest but having played Liverpool, Arsenal and Man City already. Ridiculous. Thats a fair point. But I watched the forest spurs game the other day and forest look like a side capable of staying up to me. Dont think Bournemouth do. i agree there, they looked decent, altough i didnt see thw whole game, just on MOTD.Spurs are a top 6 side and in the champions league, Forest will certainly pick up points against some of the so called lesser prem teams. i can just see them scraping it, like Town in the 1st season. |
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Post by typical on Aug 30, 2022 10:57:04 GMT 1
The most amusing thing about all of Forest’s signings is, despite signing 67 new players, they don’t have a proper striker. I believe they’ve signed like 3 players for every position, except up front.
Honestly not sure why they need the depth of Renan Lodi, Richards and Toff at left back - as much as I was fuming when he left for them, I kind of feel sorry for the bloke, once Richards is back fit he’s 3rd choice.
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