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Post by boooothy on Aug 31, 2022 21:51:28 GMT 1
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Post by ben1987 on Aug 31, 2022 21:51:49 GMT 1
So no doubt I’ll get murdered for defending this team against the unrelenting negativity on here, but in my humble opinion we have been the better team tonight, have hit the bar twice and have looked better in possession than City. We have been outdone by a cross in the box again and must address this before the window ends, and conceding a 2nd after hitting the post at the other end. Schofield made the right substitutions at the right time but will no drought get slaughtered because we’ve lost again. We are 6 games in with a lot of new players and a new coach and some patience is surely required. We will play worse than this tonight and win. Keep the faith or go do one ffs I’m happy to get into an argument over your post, not that I don’t respect your opinion because I do but the fact that we’ve lost when we were the better team is even more worrying. Last season we finished third and play off finalist runners up, now we are second bottom only because Coventrys pitch is a cow field. We were solid last season and prided ourself defensively. This season we are defensively clueless. I don’t know what Schofields changed that Carlos did but it isn’t working. The excuses need to stop now. I don’t accept that we have loads of new players in, we have some, just like other teams and if we had any ambition about us we’d have done our business early. Instead we will be scrapping for players in the final hour on Thursday. I think we are nailed on relegation candidates, no two ways about it. There’s zero identity, I have no clue what our tactics are or style is apart from a losing one. I see nothing in the players that suggest they believe in DS. I’m usually positive on Town but I’m losing my shit now. The club seem hell bent on making this season as difficult as possible. I’m staggered at the amount of Town fans who see no wrong in what’s currently going on. All that rebuild since Hoyle last owned us has literally collapsed. Now we have a club and large sections of the fan base (not pointing the finger at you) who before a ball was kicked and now are quite happy to just survive this season. We finished third last season, how fucking low are the clubs expectations and targets that just surviving is acceptable? It’s beyond embarrassing how utterly tinpot we are and for all the hate that Forest fans had for us, now, in hindsight, they were right. We are too small time to be anywhere near the PL. Fans are and rightly are already voting with their feet. |
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Post by Niggled on Aug 31, 2022 21:51:53 GMT 1
surely if we are losing on Saturday something needs to be sang towards hoyle or the board What about Sunday ? |
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Post by buckers on Aug 31, 2022 21:52:31 GMT 1
We best Stoke who are massively out of sorts themselves, but in that game we showed passion and fought. That’s all gone again. Schofield sadly has to go this can’t carry on. The Simpson deal sums the club up at the minute. The Stoke game was similar to this one. Could have gone either way but we took our chances. Tonight we didn't and the opposition did. We were never behind against Stoke. We outplayed them all the first half. It was only a 20 min spell in the second when they looked dangerous. After schofield to his credit change things we won the game. |
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Aug 31, 2022 21:52:41 GMT 1
I didn’t think it was that bad. The set pieces arnt going in and the defenders arnt as good as last year (hopefully rectified tomorrow) Apart from that not too much different to last season. Decent manager gets us to mid table comfortably. The longer this tacticless confusion goes on, the harder it's going to be to turn some of these players around. Last season was all about control and fine margins. This season we haven't had any control and are a long way off our opponents (Stoke aside). |
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Aug 31, 2022 21:52:49 GMT 1
Make sure a certain person doesnt sell the club silver to pay the electric bill
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Post by k1man999 on Aug 31, 2022 21:53:25 GMT 1
Last season we edged a lot of games
Nichols made more saves than any other keeper in the league which is strange for a team top end of a league.
We had some luck so far we've had next to none,but we shouldn't be conceding header off wells or falling apart like we do when countered against (this is where OB is massively missed)
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Aug 31, 2022 21:53:55 GMT 1
surely if we are losing on Saturday something needs to be sang towards hoyle or the board We won’t lose on Saturday What about Sunday? |
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Post by est1908 on Aug 31, 2022 21:54:12 GMT 1
surely if we are losing on Saturday something needs to be sang towards hoyle or the board There's a poster who needs to win a bet, but I can't remember who it was??? A Ted I think..... |
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Aug 31, 2022 21:54:16 GMT 1
So no doubt I’ll get murdered for defending this team against the unrelenting negativity on here, but in my humble opinion we have been the better team tonight, have hit the bar twice and have looked better in possession than City. We have been outdone by a cross in the box again and must address this before the window ends, and conceding a 2nd after hitting the post at the other end. Schofield made the right substitutions at the right time but will no drought get slaughtered because we’ve lost again. We are 6 games in with a lot of new players and a new coach and some patience is surely required. We will play worse than this tonight and win. Keep the faith or go do one ffs I’m happy to get into an argument over your post, not that I don’t respect your opinion because I do but the fact that we’ve lost when we were the better team is even more worrying. Last season we finished third and play off finalist runners up, now we are second bottom only because Coventrys pitch is a cow field. We were solid last season and prided ourself defensively. This season we are defensively clueless. I don’t know what Schofields changed that Carlos did but it isn’t working. The excuses need to stop now. I don’t accept that we have loads of new players in, we have some, just like other teams and if we had any ambition about us we’d have done our business early. Instead we will be scrapping for players in the final hour on Thursday. I think we are nailed on relegation candidates, no two ways about it. There’s zero identity, I have no clue what our tactics are or style is apart from a losing one. I see nothing in the players that suggest they believe in DS. I’m usually positive on Town but I’m losing my shit now. The club seem hell bent on making this season as difficult as possible. I’m staggered at the amount of Town fans who see no wrong in what’s currently going on. All that rebuild since Hoyle last owned us has literally collapsed. Now we have a club and large sections of the fan base (not pointing the finger at you) who before a ball was kicked and now are quite happy to just survive this season. We finished third last season, how fucking low are the clubs expectations and targets that just surviving is acceptable? It’s beyond embarrassing how utterly tinpot we are and for all the hate that Forest fans had for us, now, in hindsight, they were right. We are too small time to be anywhere near the PL. Fans are and rightly are already voting with their feet.  |
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Post by buckers on Aug 31, 2022 21:54:22 GMT 1
Because it's his job to make sure the players are doing their jobs. Come off it now, the guy hasn't got a clue what he's doing. Yeah you're right. He should have run on and scored the sitters and reminded Nicholls what his hands are for the 2nd. We created more than enough chances. Players didn't take them. BEHAVE!!! The book stops with the manager. We’re gonna start blaming our player of the season last season now. Fuck. Me. Rigid. |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Aug 31, 2022 21:55:33 GMT 1
Said it after the game on Sat. We need someone to fill the gap that O' Brien has left. His momentum took 2-3 players out of the game. Anjorin seems to do that, but not as consistently & obviously an issue with him getting through 90 mins for some reason. Rudoni tries as well, but he's still a work in progress.
Ah well, onwards and upwards. I'm sure Forest fans were saying similar things at this stage last season, what will it take for us to get our mojo back and build a half decent unbeaten run. We look a little off that just now, but let's keep backing these lads...
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Post by buckers on Aug 31, 2022 21:55:42 GMT 1
So no doubt I’ll get murdered for defending this team against the unrelenting negativity on here, but in my humble opinion we have been the better team tonight, have hit the bar twice and have looked better in possession than City. We have been outdone by a cross in the box again and must address this before the window ends, and conceding a 2nd after hitting the post at the other end. Schofield made the right substitutions at the right time but will no drought get slaughtered because we’ve lost again. We are 6 games in with a lot of new players and a new coach and some patience is surely required. We will play worse than this tonight and win. Keep the faith or go do one ffs I’m happy to get into an argument over your post, not that I don’t respect your opinion because I do but the fact that we’ve lost when we were the better team is even more worrying. Last season we finished third and play off finalist runners up, now we are second bottom only because Coventrys pitch is a cow field. We were solid last season and prided ourself defensively. This season we are defensively clueless. I don’t know what Schofields changed that Carlos did but it isn’t working. The excuses need to stop now. I don’t accept that we have loads of new players in, we have some, just like other teams and if we had any ambition about us we’d have done our business early. Instead we will be scrapping for players in the final hour on Thursday. I think we are nailed on relegation candidates, no two ways about it. There’s zero identity, I have no clue what our tactics are or style is apart from a losing one. I see nothing in the players that suggest they believe in DS. I’m usually positive on Town but I’m losing my shit now. The club seem hell bent on making this season as difficult as possible. I’m staggered at the amount of Town fans who see no wrong in what’s currently going on. All that rebuild since Hoyle last owned us has literally collapsed. Now we have a club and large sections of the fan base (not pointing the finger at you) who before a ball was kicked and now are quite happy to just survive this season. We finished third last season, how fucking low are the clubs expectations and targets that just surviving is acceptable? It’s beyond embarrassing how utterly tinpot we are and for all the hate that Forest fans had for us, now, in hindsight, they were right. We are too small time to be anywhere near the PL. Fans are and rightly are already voting with their feet. Finally some sense |
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Post by kennyk2 on Aug 31, 2022 21:55:42 GMT 1
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Post by jqhtfc on Aug 31, 2022 21:55:52 GMT 1
Midfield is a huge issue, need a midfielder in tomorrow who can grab hold of a game and control it for us. We look a very poor side, we have odd moments in games but we never sustain pressure on a side and rely on us being clinical. Hopefully we can bring 3 or 4 in tomorrow. That’s the issue for me we just can’t control a game or sustain any real pressure like you said, the amount of time we lose the ball is criminal and there’s zero movement in midfield so we don’t break the lines. Something just doesn’t feel right though so many are underperforming. |
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Post by Up the Duff. on Aug 31, 2022 21:55:55 GMT 1
So no doubt I’ll get murdered for defending this team against the unrelenting negativity on here, but in my humble opinion we have been the better team tonight, have hit the bar twice and have looked better in possession than City. We have been outdone by a cross in the box again and must address this before the window ends, and conceding a 2nd after hitting the post at the other end. Schofield made the right substitutions at the right time but will no drought get slaughtered because we’ve lost again. We are 6 games in with a lot of new players and a new coach and some patience is surely required. We will play worse than this tonight and win. Keep the faith or go do one ffs I’m happy to get into an argument over your post, not that I don’t respect your opinion because I do but the fact that we’ve lost when we were the better team is even more worrying. Last season we finished third and play off finalist runners up, now we are second bottom only because Coventrys pitch is a cow field. We were solid last season and prided ourself defensively. This season we are defensively clueless. I don’t know what Schofields changed that Carlos did but it isn’t working. The excuses need to stop now. I don’t accept that we have loads of new players in, we have some, just like other teams and if we had any ambition about us we’d have done our business early. Instead we will be scrapping for players in the final hour on Thursday. I think we are nailed on relegation candidates, no two ways about it. There’s zero identity, I have no clue what our tactics are or style is apart from a losing one. I see nothing in the players that suggest they believe in DS. I’m usually positive on Town but I’m losing my shit now. The club seem hell bent on making this season as difficult as possible. I’m staggered at the amount of Town fans who see no wrong in what’s currently going on. All that rebuild since Hoyle last owned us has literally collapsed. Now we have a club and large sections of the fan base (not pointing the finger at you) who before a ball was kicked and now are quite happy to just survive this season. We finished third last season, how fucking low are the clubs expectations and targets that just surviving is acceptable? It’s beyond embarrassing how utterly tinpot we are and for all the hate that Forest fans had for us, now, in hindsight, they were right. We are too small time to be anywhere near the PL. Fans are and rightly are already voting with their feet. Bang on |
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Post by jakeg on Aug 31, 2022 21:56:39 GMT 1
You are either incredibly naive or have never watched a game of football. This performance leaves me even more worried. These are bang average and they’ve been significantly better in both boxes. We are in deep trouble Well I’m 64 and strongly suspect I’ve watched a few 100 more matches in my time than you but it’s all about opinions and ours clearly differ - which is fine I kinda don't disagree with either of you really. That was so far away from the sort of appalling performace that many on here seem to revel in. In essence it was a game that should have been a draw based on pretty much everything I saw (having watched 45 years worth of games so feel I have a reasonable capacity to have an opinion). But i agree the simple thing with football is that you need to be better in your box and theirs. With that you succeed. Without it you don't. I don't think we did too much wrong in creating chances but weren't clinical and probably unlucky. More worrying is that pretty much 3 chances for Bristol and two goals. Is it coaching? Is it recruitment? Is it plater error? Is it all of those? Dunno. I don't think we are anywhere near as shit as some.on here seem to.want us to.be but it's frustrating we are where we are after last season. Last word. Rudoni. Well played lad |
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Post by ACW on Aug 31, 2022 21:56:52 GMT 1
The Stoke game was similar to this one. Could have gone either way but we took our chances. Tonight we didn't and the opposition did. We were never behind against Stoke. We outplayed them all the first half. It was only a 20 min spell in the second when they looked dangerous. After schofield to his credit change things we won the game. I thought the game versus Stoke was even. It ebbed and flowed. Both teams had chances and we took ours. Just because we won 3-1 that day doesn't mean we dominated the game. We didn't. And just because we lost 2-0 tonight doesn't mean we were battered. We weren't. |
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Aug 31, 2022 21:58:49 GMT 1
Well I’m 64 and strongly suspect I’ve watched a few 100 more matches in my time than you but it’s all about opinions and ours clearly differ - which is fine I kinda don't disagree with either of you really. That was so far away from the sort of appalling performace that many on here seem to revel in. In essence it was a game that should have been a draw based on pretty much everything I saw (having watched 45 years worth of games so feel I have a reasonable capacity to have an opinion). But i agree the simple thing with football is that you need to be better in your box and theirs. With that you succeed. Without it you don't. I don't think we did too much wrong in creating chances but weren't clinical and probably unlucky. More worrying is that pretty much 3 chances for Bristol and two goals. Is it coaching? Is it recruitment? Is it plater error? Is it all of those? Dunno. I don't think we are anywhere near as shit as some.on here seem to.want us to.be but it's frustrating we are where we are after last season. Last word. Rudoni. Well played lad there is no wanting. people know we are relegation fodder as it stands. it's not rocket science. it is what it is. a fact. |
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Post by ACW on Aug 31, 2022 21:59:31 GMT 1
Midfield is a huge issue, need a midfielder in tomorrow who can grab hold of a game and control it for us. We look a very poor side, we have odd moments in games but we never sustain pressure on a side and rely on us being clinical. Hopefully we can bring 3 or 4 in tomorrow. That’s the issue for me we just can’t control a game or sustain any real pressure like you said, the amount of time we lose the ball is criminal and there’s zero movement in midfield so we don’t break the lines. Something just doesn’t feel right though so many are underperforming. Agreed. We can put decent moves together, but we don't sustain them. It's one decent move every 10-15 minutes. It's not enough. |
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Post by htfcterry on Aug 31, 2022 22:01:24 GMT 1
Same old story. Good for around 30 minutes of the game but shite for the remaining 60 minutes.
The team is unfit.
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Post by jakeg on Aug 31, 2022 22:01:33 GMT 1
We were never behind against Stoke. We outplayed them all the first half. It was only a 20 min spell in the second when they looked dangerous. After schofield to his credit change things we won the game. I thought the game versus Stoke was even. It ebbed and flowed. Both teams had chances and we took ours. Just because we won 3-1 that day doesn't mean we dominated the game. We didn't. And just because we lost 2-0 tonight doesn't mean we were battered. We weren't. Agreed and such is football. Plenty of games last season could have gone either way and we found a way ( although in the latter part of the season we just seemed to exude confidence that we knew how to.win.....missing at the moment) Fine margins. We aren't shit but we are nowhere near where we ended last season |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2022 22:02:20 GMT 1
How have some of those not gone in? So many right on the line, off the post, ball breaking their way not ours. We deserved better from that game. No we did not. By any stat you care to mention - possession, passing, shots on target etc etc we were second best. We were comfortably beaten, again, by a mediocre side who were well-organised and deseved it. Tino had an off night and therefore we created next to nothing until they sat back with their comfortable lead - familiar. Did anyone on this board expect Holmes to put his one on one chance with the goalie in ? I love Turton but the same applies for his chance. We got what we deserved tonight - and against Preston, Norwich,Birmingham etc etc. No we didn't. The only thing which got me cross tonight were the misplaced passes. If I am being critical, and Tino did have an off night, I don't think Hogg & Lees will do much playing it out from the back. It pinballed about and quite often ended up with the opposition. It is not a strong suit for either of them. I would like to see Camara get a chance in place of Russell. I know he is young but he may give us more movement. Rudoni had a lot of work to do and I didn't think he got much help from Russell. It may just be familiarisation but midfield link up play needs to improve. We can't play balls over the top for Ward or Rhodes to chase, unless they are absolutely spot on. The lack of pace was highlighted tonight when we did that. Those were Hogg's choices though and not Danny's. See what tomorrow brings. If it is a decent young 6'2" centre back and a young prop forward I will be happy with that. |
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Post by impact on Aug 31, 2022 22:02:38 GMT 1
Last season we edged a lot of games Nichols made more saves than any other keeper in the league which is strange for a team top end of a league. We had some luck so far we've had next to none,but we shouldn't be conceding header off wells or falling apart like we do when countered against (this is where OB is massively missed) Agree. I know people don't like or get xG, but we had a 22 goal swing on xG last year. 14 more goals scored than expected, likely mainly down to set pieces, and 8 fewer conceded than expected because we had the best keeper in the league. And that bit of luck. The Wells header is poor organisation, but the 2nd goal is poor from both Lees and Nicholls, 2 players who were stars last year. We've only scored 1 from set pieces that I can remember and we won the game. |
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Post by space hardware on Aug 31, 2022 22:03:35 GMT 1
So no doubt I’ll get murdered for defending this team against the unrelenting negativity on here, but in my humble opinion we have been the better team tonight, have hit the bar twice and have looked better in possession than City. We have been outdone by a cross in the box again and must address this before the window ends, and conceding a 2nd after hitting the post at the other end. Schofield made the right substitutions at the right time but will no drought get slaughtered because we’ve lost again. We are 6 games in with a lot of new players and a new coach and some patience is surely required. We will play worse than this tonight and win. Keep the faith or go do one ffs I’m happy to get into an argument over your post, not that I don’t respect your opinion because I do but the fact that we’ve lost when we were the better team is even more worrying. Last season we finished third and play off finalist runners up, now we are second bottom only because Coventrys pitch is a cow field. We were solid last season and prided ourself defensively. This season we are defensively clueless. I don’t know what Schofields changed that Carlos did but it isn’t working. The excuses need to stop now. I don’t accept that we have loads of new players in, we have some, just like other teams and if we had any ambition about us we’d have done our business early. Instead we will be scrapping for players in the final hour on Thursday. I think we are nailed on relegation candidates, no two ways about it. There’s zero identity, I have no clue what our tactics are or style is apart from a losing one. I see nothing in the players that suggest they believe in DS. I’m usually positive on Town but I’m losing my shit now. The club seem hell bent on making this season as difficult as possible. I’m staggered at the amount of Town fans who see no wrong in what’s currently going on. All that rebuild since Hoyle last owned us has literally collapsed. Now we have a club and large sections of the fan base (not pointing the finger at you) who before a ball was kicked and now are quite happy to just survive this season. We finished third last season, how fucking low are the clubs expectations and targets that just surviving is acceptable? It’s beyond embarrassing how utterly tinpot we are and for all the hate that Forest fans had for us, now, in hindsight, they were right. We are too small time to be anywhere near the PL. Fans are and rightly are already voting with their feet. 👆🏻 This |
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Post by Baby-face Frankenstein on Aug 31, 2022 22:03:38 GMT 1
Bristol City fans must be wandering off back home, shaking their noggins - albeit, no doubt, with big grins on their mugs - and wondering how on earth they won that game 2-0!! They won 2-0 because they were far better where it matters. Don’t be deceived by that performance. We deserved nothing. Thought we deserved the draw tbh on the chances created. Just lacking slightly in certain areas, i.e speed of thought and finding space quickly - can't quite put my finger on it but we look a little slow at times. Bristol shaded it with their aggression and winning second balls, but certainly won't be getting too smug about being one of the division's big boys. Us too, not. Plenty of time to fix things, though. |
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Post by jakeg on Aug 31, 2022 22:03:48 GMT 1
I kinda don't disagree with either of you really. That was so far away from the sort of appalling performace that many on here seem to revel in. In essence it was a game that should have been a draw based on pretty much everything I saw (having watched 45 years worth of games so feel I have a reasonable capacity to have an opinion). But i agree the simple thing with football is that you need to be better in your box and theirs. With that you succeed. Without it you don't. I don't think we did too much wrong in creating chances but weren't clinical and probably unlucky. More worrying is that pretty much 3 chances for Bristol and two goals. Is it coaching? Is it recruitment? Is it plater error? Is it all of those? Dunno. I don't think we are anywhere near as shit as some.on here seem to.want us to.be but it's frustrating we are where we are after last season. Last word. Rudoni. Well played lad there is no wanting. people know we are relegation fodder as it stands. it's not rocket science. it is what it is. a fact. I don't agree that we are relegation fodder. Am.i happy? No. Am.i worried? A bit. And there are PLENTY on here that seem to revel in chaos and the defeats. Just look at the page count on match threads when we win vs when we lose. A fact |
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Post by evidentlychickentown on Aug 31, 2022 22:05:53 GMT 1
I’m happy to get into an argument over your post, not that I don’t respect your opinion because I do but the fact that we’ve lost when we were the better team is even more worrying. Last season we finished third and play off finalist runners up, now we are second bottom only because Coventrys pitch is a cow field. We were solid last season and prided ourself defensively. This season we are defensively clueless. I don’t know what Schofields changed that Carlos did but it isn’t working. The excuses need to stop now. I don’t accept that we have loads of new players in, we have some, just like other teams and if we had any ambition about us we’d have done our business early. Instead we will be scrapping for players in the final hour on Thursday. I think we are nailed on relegation candidates, no two ways about it. There’s zero identity, I have no clue what our tactics are or style is apart from a losing one. I see nothing in the players that suggest they believe in DS. I’m usually positive on Town but I’m losing my shit now. The club seem hell bent on making this season as difficult as possible. I’m staggered at the amount of Town fans who see no wrong in what’s currently going on. All that rebuild since Hoyle last owned us has literally collapsed. Now we have a club and large sections of the fan base (not pointing the finger at you) who before a ball was kicked and now are quite happy to just survive this season. We finished third last season, how fucking low are the clubs expectations and targets that just surviving is acceptable? It’s beyond embarrassing how utterly tinpot we are and for all the hate that Forest fans had for us, now, in hindsight, they were right. We are too small time to be anywhere near the PL. Fans are and rightly are already voting with their feet. Bang on In fairness I never said that there’s nothing wrong - very clearly we need to Improve and I pointed out the problem with crosses, but the point I was making is that we are only 6 games in and I didn’t think tonight’s performance was anything like as dire as was being made out by the majority of posters on here. I thought we were unlucky not to score and also wasted some clear opportunities. At least we created them unlike in our first couple of games. I was just asking for a bit of patience as some of new signings look promising. |
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Post by rugbyterrier on Aug 31, 2022 22:06:26 GMT 1
I don't think anyone wants Town to fail but it was so obvious what was going to happen in the wake of Carlos going, best players going and Schofield's appointment
It's not rocket science or " wummery" it's just very sadly a logical conclusion of the self inflicted harm on our club.
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Post by griffa on Aug 31, 2022 22:07:28 GMT 1
How is this on Schofield. We've missed huge chances. We should be winning never mind drawing. So easy to just say sack him. How about players stop making so many individual errors at both ends. We have some decent players but like it or not they need a coach that will give them that belief. Schofield is just way out of his depth, he has to go! Danny out of his depth! |
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