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Post by terriers2000 on Aug 31, 2022 22:07:29 GMT 1
potless would of had enough of this
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Post by buckers on Aug 31, 2022 22:07:41 GMT 1
We were never behind against Stoke. We outplayed them all the first half. It was only a 20 min spell in the second when they looked dangerous. After schofield to his credit change things we won the game. I thought the game versus Stoke was even. It ebbed and flowed. Both teams had chances and we took ours. Just because we won 3-1 that day doesn't mean we dominated the game. We didn't. And just because we lost 2-0 tonight doesn't mean we were battered. We weren't. You telling me we didn’t dominate the first half? That’s what I said not the game. They had a 20 min period after half time were it was all Stoke. |
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Post by mrg on Aug 31, 2022 22:07:44 GMT 1
So no doubt I’ll get murdered for defending this team against the unrelenting negativity on here, but in my humble opinion we have been the better team tonight, have hit the bar twice and have looked better in possession than City. We have been outdone by a cross in the box again and must address this before the window ends, and conceding a 2nd after hitting the post at the other end. Schofield made the right substitutions at the right time but will no drought get slaughtered because we’ve lost again. We are 6 games in with a lot of new players and a new coach and some patience is surely required. We will play worse than this tonight and win. Keep the faith or go do one ffs I’m happy to get into an argument over your post, not that I don’t respect your opinion because I do but the fact that we’ve lost when we were the better team is even more worrying. Last season we finished third and play off finalist runners up, now we are second bottom only because Coventrys pitch is a cow field. We were solid last season and prided ourself defensively. This season we are defensively clueless. I don’t know what Schofields changed that Carlos did but it isn’t working. The excuses need to stop now. I don’t accept that we have loads of new players in, we have some, just like other teams and if we had any ambition about us we’d have done our business early. Instead we will be scrapping for players in the final hour on Thursday. I think we are nailed on relegation candidates, no two ways about it. There’s zero identity, I have no clue what our tactics are or style is apart from a losing one. I see nothing in the players that suggest they believe in DS. I’m usually positive on Town but I’m losing my shit now. The club seem hell bent on making this season as difficult as possible. I’m staggered at the amount of Town fans who see no wrong in what’s currently going on. All that rebuild since Hoyle last owned us has literally collapsed. Now we have a club and large sections of the fan base (not pointing the finger at you) who before a ball was kicked and now are quite happy to just survive this season. We finished third last season, how fucking low are the clubs expectations and targets that just surviving is acceptable? It’s beyond embarrassing how utterly tinpot we are and for all the hate that Forest fans had for us, now, in hindsight, they were right. We are too small time to be anywhere near the PL. Fans are and rightly are already voting with their feet. You don't know what Schofield has changed that Carlos didn't. Weve released pipa, sarr, colwill, toffolo and obrian from defence and replaced them with nakamura (whoes a good lad however we spell it) rudiani and Boyle. Hoyle has undone all the hardwork done the year before and needs to put down the glue tin before it's too late. Only Hoyle is responsible for this. Im not pushing the panic button at the end of August, we are not marooned. Anyone can see a back 3 that works is imperative. Releasing sarr cos he was on 9k now seems very naive. |
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Aug 31, 2022 22:07:46 GMT 1
there is no wanting. people know we are relegation fodder as it stands. it's not rocket science. it is what it is. a fact. I don't agree that we are relegation fodder. Am.i happy? No. Am.i worried? A bit. And there are PLENTY on here that seem to revel in chaos and the defeats. Just look at the page count on match threads when we win vs when we lose. A fact That's only natural. ranting is always more popular on forums. It's not only ours. Look at every other club forum and it's pretty much the same. |
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Post by Melc on Aug 31, 2022 22:07:53 GMT 1
We’ve lost to Birmingham now, and these. Both definitely lower half. No excuses about being unlucky. We’ve been rubbish in the key moments in the game again. I find the attitude of owner embarrassing. Fucking small minded market trader mentality. Do one you prick No doubting your feeling then. |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Aug 31, 2022 22:08:00 GMT 1
Said it after the game on Sat. We need someone to fill the gap that O' Brien has left. His momentum took 2-3 players out of the game. Anjorin seems to do that, but not as consistently & obviously an issue with him getting through 90 mins for some reason. Rudoni tries as well, but he's still a work in progress. Ah well, onwards and upwards. I'm sure Forest fans were saying similar things at this stage last season, what will it take for us to get our mojo back and build a half decent unbeaten run. We look a little off that just now, but let's keep backing these lads... Must have been a dozen games last season I left the game wondering how we got the result. Its a cock hairs difference between then and tonight other than the result went the other way. We start very poorly, its becoming a habit. We are allowing far too many balls to come into the box, its getting annoying now. One or two cant physically manage the division, thats criminal. We often look to have too many players and then look to be a couple down on the oppposition, thats poor tactics and a lack of graft added together. Pearsons loss is bigger than I first thought and Im not sure about the starting 11 tonight? We need to start better and we need to do everything quicker, its too laboured. |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Aug 31, 2022 22:08:05 GMT 1
Not sure, but if we're 2-1 up going into injury time there could be a few sweaty psalms in the stadium... |
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Post by drayltonboy (independent) on Aug 31, 2022 22:08:09 GMT 1
This is dire. So called supporters making same criticisms every game without ever giving substance to those criticisms. Fuck off and learn how to understand the game, or acknowledge your ignorance(asIdo mine) and say nowt. You are an embarrassment to yourself The substance is plain to see!!! We replaced the guy who took us to third with a bloke who has never managed a team before and who's professional career reached the dizzy heights of league 1. I'd retort in kind to your abuse but you ain't worth it. Since Hoyle came back the rot set in and now we are seeing that. From the playboff final to Boyle and Schofield...let that sink in Like when we replaced Powell, a man with much experience, with Wagner, who had never managed in the Cgampionship? You expected us to replace the players from the final, who increased by leaps and bounds, with like for like? Whilst you’re Fucking Off to learn about football, take extra courses in logic and player progression. Perhaps a better understanding of the English language too, if that is your demonstration of validation. Study hard. |
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Post by Yesss on Aug 31, 2022 22:08:55 GMT 1
So no doubt I’ll get murdered for defending this team against the unrelenting negativity on here, but in my humble opinion we have been the better team tonight, have hit the bar twice and have looked better in possession than City. We have been outdone by a cross in the box again and must address this before the window ends, and conceding a 2nd after hitting the post at the other end. Schofield made the right substitutions at the right time but will no drought get slaughtered because we’ve lost again. We are 6 games in with a lot of new players and a new coach and some patience is surely required. We will play worse than this tonight and win. Keep the faith or go do one ffs I’m happy to get into an argument over your post, not that I don’t respect your opinion because I do but the fact that we’ve lost when we were the better team is even more worrying. Last season we finished third and play off finalist runners up, now we are second bottom only because Coventrys pitch is a cow field. We were solid last season and prided ourself defensively. This season we are defensively clueless. I don’t know what Schofields changed that Carlos did but it isn’t working. The excuses need to stop now. I don’t accept that we have loads of new players in, we have some, just like other teams and if we had any ambition about us we’d have done our business early. Instead we will be scrapping for players in the final hour on Thursday. I think we are nailed on relegation candidates, no two ways about it. There’s zero identity, I have no clue what our tactics are or style is apart from a losing one. I see nothing in the players that suggest they believe in DS. I’m usually positive on Town but I’m losing my shit now. The club seem hell bent on making this season as difficult as possible. I’m staggered at the amount of Town fans who see no wrong in what’s currently going on. All that rebuild since Hoyle last owned us has literally collapsed. Now we have a club and large sections of the fan base (not pointing the finger at you) who before a ball was kicked and now are quite happy to just survive this season. We finished third last season, how fucking low are the clubs expectations and targets that just surviving is acceptable? It’s beyond embarrassing how utterly tinpot we are and for all the hate that Forest fans had for us, now, in hindsight, they were right. We are too small time to be anywhere near the PL. Fans are and rightly are already voting with their feet. 👏 Everything spot on, Dean is the root of the problem. |
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Post by tepidterrier on Aug 31, 2022 22:09:05 GMT 1
funny old game. it's interesting and a bit painful to see how the losing habit seeps back in. Bit of bad luck, but you make your own through stopping the other side from getting lucky. We weren't spectacular last season but we'd have brushed these aside with a gritty and defensively solid performance. This side could be perfectly fine this season with the right guidance and mentality.
Schofield hasn't learnt quickly enough and doesn't adapt in games enough for that to happen as it stands. He either needs more assistance, or to step back. He's still one coach down on Carlos. Dunno if that'd make any difference unless it's a new head coach though! For me he has til the end of September to meaningfully improve
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Post by Teddington Ted on Aug 31, 2022 22:11:52 GMT 1
We’re poorly drilled, look unfit but above all we lack legs and are soft.
Last year we had a winning mentality. Some call it luck, some call it down to a great keeper, some call it a reliance on set pieces. It was all that and more because we found whatever way required to win games. We could grind out ugly wins where our squad of freebies and L1 down to non league signings used organisation, will power and application to overcome far more talented sides.
I see no difference in us playing rubbish or in the view being ‘unlucky - we could have won that’.
Losing is habitual, as is winning. We’re a million miles from the level we need to be an a player or two won’t change that. As ever, the mentality is of mediocrity being acceptable. Managed decline. ‘Just do your best and hope it’s enough’.
We lack grit, balls and belief from top to bottom. The club feels like it is sinking back into the Siewart-esque malaise and no one has the desire or balls to snap us out of it.
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Aug 31, 2022 22:12:13 GMT 1
Unlucky tonight. Overall it was an improvement. We'll be fine
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Post by Big Ern on Aug 31, 2022 22:16:21 GMT 1
Said it after the game on Sat. We need someone to fill the gap that O' Brien has left. His momentum took 2-3 players out of the game. Anjorin seems to do that, but not as consistently & obviously an issue with him getting through 90 mins for some reason. Rudoni tries as well, but he's still a work in progress. Ah well, onwards and upwards. I'm sure Forest fans were saying similar things at this stage last season, what will it take for us to get our mojo back and build a half decent unbeaten run. We look a little off that just now, but let's keep backing these lads... Forest brought in a decent manager to stop the rot. |
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Post by buckers on Aug 31, 2022 22:16:26 GMT 1
Unlucky tonight. Overall it was an improvement. We'll be fine Wood for the trees pete lad |
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Post by runner76 on Aug 31, 2022 22:16:50 GMT 1
Unlucky tonight. Overall it was an improvement. We'll be fine Didn’t watch the game but I like that summary. UTT |
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Post by ldr on Aug 31, 2022 22:18:50 GMT 1
The last two posts sum up football and life in general. Complete opposites. One says we are shite and the other says we played decent. One says we’re doomed and the other says we’ll be reet.
I just don’t know what to believe anymore.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Aug 31, 2022 22:26:01 GMT 1
Unlucky tonight. Overall it was an improvement. We'll be fine Winning games and drawing games last season where it really, really could have gone the other way, has clouded a few supporters judgements when they are going the other way? I still have no idea exactly who we should have signed or who the manager should be but its clear we should have signed lots of 'other' players and got a new manager in. Im still passing on the doomed scenario. If we let as many crosses or balls into the box on Sunday I might change my mind though. If they dont learn by experience I will fall out with Danny and the team. Danny makes a few tough choices on players and tactics and lets see? |
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Post by rugbyterrier on Aug 31, 2022 22:27:38 GMT 1
The last two posts sum up football and life in general. Complete opposites. One says we are shite and the other says we played decent. One says we’re doomed and the other says we’ll be reet. I just don’t know what to believe anymore. The league table. |
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Aug 31, 2022 22:29:17 GMT 1
Crap at the back. Hogg is NOT a central defender!
Russell was abysmal yet again and looks a completely different player to last season.
Pat Jones did more in ten minutes than Rhodes & Ward did between them. I'd start Jones up front on Sunday alongside either Ward or Rhodes.
Rudoni was easily man of the match.
Its a must win game for Schofield on Sunday or he needs to go.
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Post by 66738 on Aug 31, 2022 22:29:24 GMT 1
Cashback Hoyle needs to sell up and let someone with ambition have a go. Who? All those that come out with comments like Dean needs to go or Hoyle out, need to consider who is there out there to step in? They are not queuing up that is for sure. Huddersfield is not awash with money. There isn’t many Town through and through fans with the amount of money it requires to take us on. And I can’t see anyone that’s not from these parts looking at us (a town in the cold, dull Yorkshire Pennines that is unfashionable, run down, and financially struggling. With a relatively small catchment area, sandwiched between the bright lights of two cities that have three teams between them that entertain tens of thousands in the Premier League), and thinking ‘Yes, that’s who I need to invest in. A mediocre Championship team that’s gonna make me no money whatsoever, in fact, it’s going to drain my hard earned bank balance just to keep the thing ticking over.’ Now for me, I think Phil taking over breathed new life into our club, and sadly it didn’t work out. We are back under Dean again and like last time it’s going stale again. The best thing for everyone would be for some Rich Town fan saviour to come in and rescue us, and inject some new life and enthusiasm into the club. But as above, it’s not impossible but is doubtful it would happen. So I have to remind myself, Yes Dean is not the perfect owner, but We have to be careful what we wish for, as our situation could be worse. A lot worse. |
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Post by goodbet on Aug 31, 2022 22:29:42 GMT 1
We have played a lot worse than we did tonight this season, but we were not good by by any measurement you care to make.
We lost LOB and Toff who had the energy and the pace in the team last season and we have not replaced it.
We have lost our coach who the players respected and we brought in players that were cost effective.
From being 3rd in the league the management of the club decided that they could afford to save some money by taking a backward step with the team, they obviously felt confident that we would not be relegated. There was no plan to build on last year no aim to get in the top 6, just to save money.
Apparently they have woken up to the possibility of relegation and we seem to be talking to 2 centre backs and striker (who may be one for the future) no midfielder. With proper planning we would not be making these last minute attempts to prop up the team. It could have more economical as well.
Well better late than never and I am sure that we all hope that this last minute dip in to the transfer arena can get us back up to mid table.
We don't seem to look at the team as a whole, if we have a position that needs strengthening we don't seem to take things in to consideration like the lack of pace in the side. If we were looking for a midfielder would they prioritise someone with hight and pace or look for someone with leadership qualities? It seems to be we look for the cheapest player that fits the position.
The way the club has been run the secrecy agreements and information coming out of the club has been poor and is upsetting the fans. I hope that somehow we find a way to move forward together, but even with the possible transfers tomorrow it will be next summer at the earliest we can hope to start looking at replicating last season.
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Post by Big Ern on Aug 31, 2022 22:29:55 GMT 1
The substance is plain to see!!! We replaced the guy who took us to third with a bloke who has never managed a team before and who's professional career reached the dizzy heights of league 1. I'd retort in kind to your abuse but you ain't worth it. Since Hoyle came back the rot set in and now we are seeing that. From the playboff final to Boyle and Schofield...let that sink in Like when we replaced Powell, a man with much experience, with Wagner, who had never managed in the Cgampionship? You expected us to replace the players from the final, who increased by leaps and bounds, with like for like? Whilst you’re Fucking Off to learn about football, take extra courses in logic and player progression. Perhaps a better understanding of the English language too, if that is your demonstration of validation. Study hard. 🤣 what a loser. Keep happy clapping down there in the doldrums where you feel we belong. Comparing Wagner to Schofield says everything you know about football. The sheer fact reactive Hoyle is frantically scrambling to bring in new players with one day left of the transfer window and 6 games gone (with 4 defeats) says everything you need to know about the shit show currently running the Club. Wagner aside every single one of his managerial appointments have been garbage. I even include Grayson in that who was swiftly dismissed after promotion. Of course you are right, we have no right to be in this division. Our natural place in your eyes is obviously league 2 and therefore we should be grateful we get to butt heads in the transfer market with the likes of Luton. |
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Post by tockyterrier on Aug 31, 2022 22:31:05 GMT 1
Convinced that a decent, experienced manager would be able to do something with our squad. Experienced like Carlos was? |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Aug 31, 2022 22:31:39 GMT 1
Said it after the game on Sat. We need someone to fill the gap that O' Brien has left. His momentum took 2-3 players out of the game. Anjorin seems to do that, but not as consistently & obviously an issue with him getting through 90 mins for some reason. Rudoni tries as well, but he's still a work in progress. Ah well, onwards and upwards. I'm sure Forest fans were saying similar things at this stage last season, what will it take for us to get our mojo back and build a half decent unbeaten run. We look a little off that just now, but let's keep backing these lads... Forest brought in a decent manager to stop the rot. It turned out to be a great appointment for them, their very own Wagner moment (with all due respect to Cloughie & Peter Taylor), but if we get rid of DS there's no guarantees. I'm just saying we need a kick start from somewhere, we're showing snippets of what we had last season, but for about 20% of the game. We really should have gone for the jugular at 2-0 up on Saturday, but we sat back & invited them on. I have to agree with others on here, that our defence isn't anywhere close to what it was last season, work to do there as well as midfield. I'm just not a big fan of moving Managers on after half a dozen games. There's zero patience in football any more. On the terraces and with some owners. |
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Post by boooothy on Aug 31, 2022 22:31:47 GMT 1
Rudoni cost almost a million, we’re willing to pay 500k for Simpson, Helik would cost in excess of a million.
That’s actually a lot more than i thought we’d spend and not the “cash back” that’s been made out on here.
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Post by Ox Terrier on Aug 31, 2022 22:32:12 GMT 1
The lad is taking City to the next level. Absolute monster of a player. Go and support them then this is a Huddersfield forum Up your arse. |
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Post by Melc on Aug 31, 2022 22:32:59 GMT 1
Said it after the game on Sat. We need someone to fill the gap that O' Brien has left. His momentum took 2-3 players out of the game. Anjorin seems to do that, but not as consistently & obviously an issue with him getting through 90 mins for some reason. Rudoni tries as well, but he's still a work in progress. Ah well, onwards and upwards. I'm sure Forest fans were saying similar things at this stage last season, what will it take for us to get our mojo back and build a half decent unbeaten run. We look a little off that just now, but let's keep backing these lads... Forest made a change in their coach after 8 games… the rest is history! |
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Post by ACW on Aug 31, 2022 22:33:02 GMT 1
I thought the game versus Stoke was even. It ebbed and flowed. Both teams had chances and we took ours. Just because we won 3-1 that day doesn't mean we dominated the game. We didn't. And just because we lost 2-0 tonight doesn't mean we were battered. We weren't. You telling me we didn’t dominate the first half? That’s what I said not the game. They had a 20 min period after half time were it was all Stoke. Yes, I am telling you I don't think we dominated the first half. Stoke had chances in the first half and a fair bit of possession. We'll agree to disagree on this one I think. |
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Post by Big Ern on Aug 31, 2022 22:35:06 GMT 1
Forest brought in a decent manager to stop the rot. It turned out to be a great appointment for them, their very own Wagner moment (with all due respect to Cloughie & Peter Taylor), but if we get rid of DS there's no guarantees. I'm just saying we need a kick start from somewhere, we're showing snippets of what we had last season, but for about 20% of the game. We really should have gone for the jugular at 2-0 up on Saturday, but we sat back & invited them on. I have to agree with others on here, that our defence isn't anywhere close to what it was last season, work to do there as well as midfield. I'm just not a big fan of moving Managers on after half a dozen games. There's zero patience in football any more. On the terraces and with some owners. In general I agree, however Schofield (as much as I love him for being one of my favourite players) just doesn't look up to it. He doesn't have the CV to point at and say he's been here before. It's a complete gamble that right now seems to be a terrible one. |
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Post by buckers on Aug 31, 2022 22:35:12 GMT 1
You telling me we didn’t dominate the first half? That’s what I said not the game. They had a 20 min period after half time were it was all Stoke. Yes, I am telling you I don't think we dominated the first half. Stoke had chances in the first half and a fair bit of possession. We'll agree to disagree on this one I think. Yeah definitely agree to disagree |
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