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Post by galpharm2400 on Sept 4, 2022 18:50:11 GMT 1
Game summary..
Town were dull and slow.
One comment, how is Pat Jones on the bench?
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Post by billy143 on Sept 4, 2022 18:53:20 GMT 1
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Sept 4, 2022 18:56:52 GMT 1
Jesus Christ. I’ve just seen the video footage and still images 60 seconds ago.
I didn’t realise it was actually over the line. I genuinely thought it wasn’t a goal as the ref’s watch didn’t buzz.
Not that it changes much but FFS.
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Post by sonny on Sept 4, 2022 18:57:55 GMT 1
We were let down by technology. But why on earth wasn't Nakayama taking the net off from there?
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Post by terryya on Sept 4, 2022 18:59:38 GMT 1
That is an excellent point - I also noticed that there had been a ball change. There are cameras high up in the stands It's similar to the Villa one in the PL a few years back. Keeper was blocking views from one side and the post would be obscuring as well. That Villa/Sheff U one also hit the back of the post. Seems a bit too much of a coincidence. |
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Post by Ibiza Town on Sept 4, 2022 19:01:57 GMT 1
I may get my head bitten off here but I don't think our squad is that bad, considering the financial restraints.
Several are well out of shape for some reason, and the organisation is all over the place.
Can be remedied and we can stay up, but some bold decisions need to be made.
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Post by bluestripe on Sept 4, 2022 19:03:30 GMT 1
Honestly, DS’s interviews scream out of his depth. They’re awful. “We lost today which is not good” - an actual quote Corberan may have said that last season too, but we couldn't decipher it. 🤪 |
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Sept 4, 2022 19:04:00 GMT 1
I may get my head bitten off here but I don't think our squad is that bad, considering the financial restraints. Several are well out of shape for some reason, and the organisation is all over the place. Can be remedied and we can stay up, but some bold decisions need to be made. I think most would agree. Even being light in midfield it's not a bottom 3 squad. There were 5 players played out of position today and no need to do it. Its quite obvious where the problem lies. |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Sept 4, 2022 19:05:15 GMT 1
We were let down by technology. But why on earth wasn't Nakayama taking the net off from there? We were let down for virtually 90 minutes, the technology was just another slap in the face. Schofield will talk it up again, some of the players will look in a mirror and tell themselves lies, again. We will continue to over play for no real purpose and we will fail to support the ball all over the pitch. Its hard to watch the dullness, when its winning games, never mind losing em. |
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Post by impact on Sept 4, 2022 19:06:47 GMT 1
There are cameras high up in the stands It's similar to the Villa one in the PL a few years back. Keeper was blocking views from one side and the post would be obscuring as well. That Villa/Sheff U one also hit the back of the post. Seems a bit too much of a coincidence. I thought that first of all. But the replay behind the goal shows how visible the ball was. There is no way it shouldn't have been able to see that. |
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Post by k1man999 on Sept 4, 2022 19:06:48 GMT 1
Schofield needs to fuck off then fuck off again then fuck off some more he's bloody clueless 3 atb yet ones a midfielder and ones a right back and we have a centre half sat on the bench !. Average player shit manager . Can't rush players in.. I never get this from us every one else throws new signings in or gives them minutes or a chance we don't. |
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Post by Waterloo Terrier on Sept 4, 2022 19:06:52 GMT 1
I may get my head bitten off here but I don't think our squad is that bad, considering the financial restraints. Several are well out of shape for some reason, and the organisation is all over the place. Can be remedied and we can stay up, but some bold decisions need to be made. It isn’t. We’ve got a problem in central midfield but Rudoni was running the game on his own at points. But there is no plan plus far, far too many of them are taking the piss. Watch their effort levels go up 50% under a new boss. |
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Post by impact on Sept 4, 2022 19:08:34 GMT 1
We were let down by technology. But why on earth wasn't Nakayama taking the net off from there? Because the keeper was sitting in it |
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Post by jqhtfc on Sept 4, 2022 19:11:44 GMT 1
The manager takes the blame, the players don’t even know how they’re set up to play, it’s just one or two players grabbing the game by the scruff of the neck I.e Rudoni That’s the issue for me, we can go on about a ball going over the etc but it’s put papering over the cracks that was appalling. Blackpool are shite and we’re just as bad I wouldn’t say it’s lack of effort it’s just not one player looks like they know what formation or style of football we’re trying to play, The experiment hasn’t worked dean go get a manager. |
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Post by bluebeard on Sept 4, 2022 19:14:35 GMT 1
Call it what you want today! but that was a clear goal and we were ro0bbed at 1-1 it's a different game then
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Post by billy143 on Sept 4, 2022 19:20:35 GMT 1
Jesus Christ. I’ve just seen the video footage and still images 60 seconds ago. I didn’t realise it was actually over the line. I genuinely thought it wasn’t a goal as the ref’s watch didn’t buzz. Not that it changes much but FFS. The picture was taken after the ball had hit the keepers stomach, it was a good 4 feet over the line |
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Post by ldr on Sept 4, 2022 19:22:27 GMT 1
Apologies if already mentioned.
Did anyone see Nicholas reacting angrily to one of our coaches trying to calm him down at the end? I wasn’t sure which coach it was but Nicholls pushed him away and the coach walked off to the Cowshed to clap the fans.
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Sept 4, 2022 19:36:09 GMT 1
Jesus Christ. I’ve just seen the video footage and still images 60 seconds ago. I didn’t realise it was actually over the line. I genuinely thought it wasn’t a goal as the ref’s watch didn’t buzz. Not that it changes much but FFS. The picture was taken after the ball had hit the keepers stomach, it was a good 4 feet over the line I was in the top tier, behind the goal, bang in centre near front row. Although it looked over from where I was, it’s hard to get perspective from my seat view. But yes, it looked well over the line to me at the time. |
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Post by specialun on Sept 4, 2022 19:39:00 GMT 1
I don’t care if the idiots watch didn’t buzz you could see from 80 yards away the ball was a yard over
Keeper tried to throw it out and it was still behind the line after that first attempt
The keeper is fully in the net apart from part of his leg
How neither of them gave the goal is beyond me
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Sept 4, 2022 19:43:08 GMT 1
Five minute break at Newport Pagnall services on my way home so obviously I’ve not read the comments on here.
No plan, no style of play, no determination, no ambition, no hope, no excitement, no thrills, no threat, no goals. Until things change dramatically within this club there’ll be no 450 mile round trips anymore to witness that shite.
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Post by Teddington Ted on Sept 4, 2022 19:46:14 GMT 1
We shouldn’t sack Schofield until Hoyle stands aside to get a proper CEO in place who can run a football club.
His history of appointing managers is utterly horrendous.
Our good seasons have all been under strong DoFs or, last year, a different owner with an experienced football man pulling the strings.
Left to his own devices Hoyle just employs clowns, burns his own money (which he then wants the club to refund) and spouts shite in empty PR rhetoric.
The club is rotting from the head down. Those calling on Schofield to resign need to aim their targets further up the greasy pole.
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Post by workshyfop on Sept 4, 2022 19:47:47 GMT 1
I'm far from convinced by Schofield and think he’s got a fair bit wrong tactics-wise, but do think we were the better team today and very unlucky with that decision which could have changed the game. Similarly at Bristol City, we could have sneaked a point. No point getting rid now unless we’re prepared to pay for someone with experience and back them. We’re in trouble, no doubt about that, and fully expect us to lose at QPR, but who could we afford to get in?
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Post by bluebeard on Sept 4, 2022 19:52:44 GMT 1
It wasn't great under Wagner and Carlos in the early days, but i agree it isn't good at the moment but that goal that never was today because of another plank of a referee that decision can change your season. This is the second tier of English football but the officials and so called technology is third world.
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Post by Teddington Ted on Sept 4, 2022 19:54:07 GMT 1
I'm far from convinced by Schofield and think he’s got a fair bit wrong tactics-wise, but do think we were the better team today and very unlucky with that decision which could have changed the game. Similarly at Bristol City, we could have sneaked a point. No point getting rid now unless we’re prepared to pay for someone with experience and back them. We’re in trouble, no doubt about that, and fully expect us to lose at QPR, but who could we afford to get in? Coulda woulda shoulda We fundamentally lack a will to win. We’ve got half a squad playing out of position with no game plan or tactical acumen. We can bang on about missed chances and poor decisions into the cows come home. The fact is, we can’t defend for toffee, our midfield is soft and slow, we have no gameplan to hold us together and the board are accepting of us being in a period of managed decline. We can all waste an evening talking about solutions and fixes. Unfortunately, until those with the power to change things decide that the current decline is too steep to accept, nothing will change. |
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Post by Teddington Ted on Sept 4, 2022 19:57:15 GMT 1
It wasn't great under Wagner and Carlos in the early days, but i agree it isn't good at the moment but that goal that never was today because of another plank of a referee that decision can change your season. This is the second tier of English football but the officials and so called technology is third world. Apart from when we played Boro off the park in Wagner’s first game and had 10 points after 6 games to sit 9th in the league at the start of Carlos’ reign? But yeah, let’s all focus on the ref’s broken watch 🤷♂️ |
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Post by impact on Sept 4, 2022 19:57:28 GMT 1
I'm far from convinced by Schofield and think he’s got a fair bit wrong tactics-wise, but do think we were the better team today and very unlucky with that decision which could have changed the game. Similarly at Bristol City, we could have sneaked a point. No point getting rid now unless we’re prepared to pay for someone with experience and back them. We’re in trouble, no doubt about that, and fully expect us to lose at QPR, but who could we afford to get in? Coulda woulda shoulda We fundamentally lack a will to win. We’ve got half a squad playing out of position with no game plan or tactical acumen. We can bang on about missed chances and poor decisions into the cows come home. The fact is, we can’t defend for toffee, our midfield is soft and slow, we have no gameplan to hold us together and the board are accepting of us being in a period of managed decline. We can all waste an evening talking about solutions and fixes. Unfortunately, until those with the power to change things decide that the current decline is too steep to accept, nothing will change. We can bang on about missed chances because we are missing far too many. The defence today was fine. We limited Blackpool to very little, apart from when players made terrible individual mistakes, eg Kelser for the goal, Nicholls and Hogg passing to Blackpool 20 yards out. We definitely didn't look all over the place defensively today. |
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Post by huddstim on Sept 4, 2022 20:01:51 GMT 1
Can anybody give me some examples of when promoting an assistant to the top job of the same club has worked out well? Bob Paisley |
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Post by finnmurphy1 on Sept 4, 2022 20:02:20 GMT 1
I may get my head bitten off here but I don't think our squad is that bad, considering the financial restraints. Several are well out of shape for some reason, and the organisation is all over the place. Can be remedied and we can stay up, but some bold decisions need to be made. I agree. We’ve actually signed some talented players. Coached correctly this isn’t a bottom 3 side at all |
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Post by shawsie on Sept 4, 2022 20:24:05 GMT 1
It wasn't great under Wagner and Carlos in the early days, but i agree it isn't good at the moment but that goal that never was today because of another plank of a referee that decision can change your season. This is the second tier of English football but the officials and so called technology is third world. There was however a pattern with both managers. Ive only seen 2 games live but im struggling with understanding how we set up to win - 1. We take risks at the back and its clear even nicholls has been impacted by the poor start. 2. There is no midfield - russell has to have legs around him - he hasnt and looks lost. Rudoni has flashes but has to play higher up the pitch to impact more consistently for me. 3. Thomas - an outstanding wide right player 6m ago is playing wide left to accomodate an underwhelming prem loanee - 2 positions significantly weaker than last yr as a result. 4. Three at the back should give balance- but turton uncomfortable on the left and boyle a strange signing on what ive seen. Levi was always going to be tough to replace (ditto toffs and LOB) but unless mbete can slip into that role comfortably i fear more pain ahead. 5. Where are we going to score goals? 7 league games and nilled in 4 of them.....thats relegation form. DS has not been given a great deal to work with - but the buck stops with him and there were no positives for me today. With every sub except jones we got worse........some big decisions lie ahead. Im not one to want managers sacking....but something has to give and quick because lets face it blackpool were a very average and limited team today and we never looked like winning. |
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Post by stevvy on Sept 4, 2022 21:07:40 GMT 1
In addition to the comment I made in another thread about Hogg basically being played as a CB, one other thing that's pissing me off is we literally have just 2 strikers, and the routine is 1 starts, 1 on the bench, and one replaces the other every game pretty much.
A game like today, losing 1-0, what is the fucking point of taking one off and putting the other on. Go for it. We're already losing, why not take off a defender or midfielder and play both of them up front, even just for the last 10mins. Go for it.
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