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Post by ldr on Sept 4, 2022 18:38:14 GMT 1
I think he deserves a game or two with Mbete and Helik in the team. It’s clear that the selections are due to him making the best of what he has got and I don’t think the likes of Ruffels are up to scratch. LM and MH could shake up the starting 11 Maybe! After the window shut, I thought the defence was the least of our problems. We looked to have brought in quality and added depth. He then plays every defender in the wrong fucking positions and doesn’t change it when he has the chance. I don’t know if the coaching team are trying to be clever whereas the basic requirement of coaching is square pegs in square holes, especially when you are paddling towards shit creek! |
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Sept 4, 2022 18:39:42 GMT 1
The problem is that Danny does not seem to be learning anything, we have played the same way each game, dominated none of them & the only way we look like scoring a goal is from a set piece. We were strong from set pieces last season when we had Lees, Pearson & Colwill attacking them, today we had Lees, Turton & Hogg! Yet still, with a total lack of height, Yuta was taking free kicks!
We are either all defending or all attacking, there is no playing through the thirds of the pitch & everyone's first thought is to keep possession by turning back, yet we always ending up blasting to Ward who is left totally isolated.
The young Villa lad had a nightmare first half & should have been off at HT with Turton moving to RWB & Helik coming on - how the Pole didn't get on the pitch is beyond me, unless he wasn't really fit, in which case, why the hell was he even on the bench.
Big well done to Pat Jones, who quickly became our best chance of creating anything.
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Post by Champers on Sept 4, 2022 18:39:44 GMT 1
The poll is pretty damning as it stands. 95% want him out, and we know important people ar the club read this site. I'd be very surprised if there isn't a Twitter "corner flag" announcement by lunchtime tomorrow.
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Post by portugalterrier on Sept 4, 2022 18:41:19 GMT 1
My my all the arseholes are on here tonight, personally apart from the finishing thought we played reasonably well, the goal should have been given and I don’t think we should be sacking the coach, reading the crap on here think I’ll be giving posting on here for a while, see you at QPR. UTT
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Post by huddersfc on Sept 4, 2022 18:41:23 GMT 1
Even after CC won about 1 in about 20 games the poll was about 50/50 in or out. Shows how utterly clueless and amateurish we look.
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Post by Sio on Sept 4, 2022 18:43:42 GMT 1
My my all the arseholes are on here tonight, personally apart from the finishing thought we played reasonably well, the goal should have been given and I don’t think we should be sacking the coach, reading the crap on here think I’ll be giving posting on here for a while, see you at QPR. UTT Arseholes because people can see pretty clearly what's happening? Look at the numbers on this poll. Consider that maybe you're the one with the detached viewpoint here. |
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Post by huddersfc on Sept 4, 2022 18:45:38 GMT 1
My my all the arseholes are on here tonight, personally apart from the finishing thought we played reasonably well, the goal should have been given and I don’t think we should be sacking the coach, reading the crap on here think I’ll be giving posting on here for a while, see you at QPR. UTT Arseholes because people can see pretty clearly what's happening? Look at the numbers on this poll. Consider that maybe you're the one with the detached viewpoint here. I think he is blinkered. Either that or visually impaired. |
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Post by rugbyterrier on Sept 4, 2022 18:45:56 GMT 1
My my all the arseholes are on here tonight, personally apart from the finishing thought we played reasonably well, the goal should have been given and I don’t think we should be sacking the coach, reading the crap on here think I’ll be giving posting on here for a while, see you at QPR. UTT You had too much Vinho Verde mate? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2022 18:46:08 GMT 1
It's Bromby who should get the sack for this hair brained idea. Thrown his friend under the bus.
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Post by aloadofdbullocks on Sept 4, 2022 18:46:47 GMT 1
We'd be in the same situation now if PH was still here. PH may have struck when the Iron was hot and backed one of the best managers in the country after a fantastic season. |
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Sept 4, 2022 18:46:47 GMT 1
My my all the arseholes are on here tonight, personally apart from the finishing thought we played reasonably well, the goal should have been given and I don’t think we should be sacking the coach, reading the crap on here think I’ll be giving posting on here for a while, see you at QPR. UTT Played reasonably well? I can’t remember a game where we played so many misplaced passes. We have an absolute gargantuan problem in midfield. |
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Post by halifaxterrier9 on Sept 4, 2022 18:47:07 GMT 1
I dont get why there is sympathy and no blame from some for DS. He took the job knowing exactly what he was getting. No one put a gun to his head and said you have to be the manager. He knew he was taking over a team that finished 3rd and got into the playoff final, therefore he knew the expectations would be high and he wouldnt be given long if we started badly. Anyone with a shred of decency and self respect, would have walked after 4 or 5 games playing that badly. How can he even look himself in the mirror knowing he is taking us closer and closer to the drop with each game. Someone must surely be telling him how abysmal and amateurish we look if he is too arrogant to see it himself. he clearly thinks from his interview after the game that he can turn it around. Ex player or not, I dont care, he needs to be shown the door, its a championship football club he is managing, not a kids fucking paddle pool. He took it? He ain’t saying no when it’s put on him. Pride would have him lead a team he’s attached to even though he knows he ain’t ready. It’s not his fault at all and folk need to stop blaming him. They’ve cocked up and put him in. Live and learn. Don’t blame him at all cba with the shit he’s getting. |
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Post by Ibiza Town on Sept 4, 2022 18:47:11 GMT 1
To assimilate so many new players whilst under pressure, and move on from the let down of the play off final, it would require considerable skills of even the best and most experienced manager.
It's a lot to ask of someone new to management.
I feel for the guy.
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 4, 2022 18:47:45 GMT 1
How can he get an ultimatum, the 2 fuckers in charge bollocksed up. This is on them. I agree completely but am putting myself in their shoes in that scenario. They never sack themselves Pity |
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Post by richhtfc on Sept 4, 2022 18:47:48 GMT 1
Very clear for me today that DS is not the man to take us forward, the players were so confused in that first half. No discernible style or strategy to the play and no cohesion, it was a very strange watch.
Hogg should only ever drop into defence if we are bullying a team and the wingbacks are pushing on, he’s never going to be a ball playing centre half, his passing isn’t sharp enough and he’s not big enough.
We looked like 11 individuals,, we should have murdered a weak Blackpool side today, but we didn’t appear to have any idea about how we were going to do it collectively.
We have a more than decent enough squad now, but we are so disjointed and unfortunately the responsibility for getting us to play as a team is the head coaches, and it really isn’t happening at the moment.
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Post by townrwe on Sept 4, 2022 18:48:42 GMT 1
He's lost the fans, he's lost the dressing room, the team weren't running for him and that was so evident when his two academy players came on and did run for him and he's lost himself aswell.
The interview after the game where he said he thought we were good in the first half...... it was fucking awful Danny, worst 45 minutes I've seen in a long time. I was ranting in the car on the way home, how can anyone be so deluded.
Square pegs in round holes, no tactical awareness and zero motivational characteristics. We need someone in tomorrow or we are just accepting the inevitable.
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Post by Larry David on Sept 4, 2022 18:49:00 GMT 1
My my all the arseholes are on here tonight, personally apart from the finishing thought we played reasonably well, the goal should have been given and I don’t think we should be sacking the coach, reading the crap on here think I’ll be giving posting on here for a while, see you at QPR. UTT I'll have a bit of what you are having. We didn't do enough of a home side to win the game. Poor in and out of possession and loads of players out of position. Look like a team with no direction or coaching. |
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Post by huddersfc on Sept 4, 2022 18:51:41 GMT 1
I dont get why there is sympathy and no blame from some for DS. He took the job knowing exactly what he was getting. No one put a gun to his head and said you have to be the manager. He knew he was taking over a team that finished 3rd and got into the playoff final, therefore he knew the expectations would be high and he wouldnt be given long if we started badly. Anyone with a shred of decency and self respect, would have walked after 4 or 5 games playing that badly. How can he even look himself in the mirror knowing he is taking us closer and closer to the drop with each game. Someone must surely be telling him how abysmal and amateurish we look if he is too arrogant to see it himself. he clearly thinks from his interview after the game that he can turn it around. Ex player or not, I dont care, he needs to be shown the door, its a championship football club he is managing, not a kids fucking paddle pool. He took it? He ain’t saying no when it’s put on him. Pride would have him lead a team he’s attached to even though he knows he ain’t ready. It’s not his fault at all and folk need to stop blaming him. They’ve cocked up and put him in. Live and learn. Don’t blame him at all cba with the shit he’s getting. Nonsense, if he knows he isnt ready he doesnt have to take it at all. Do you think a brain surgeon in training has a crack even though as you say "he knows he aint ready". You do whats best for your career and take advice if you need to. Cba with all the shit he is getting? He is a big boy. If I turned that wank out week after week, I would expect no end of criticism. |
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Post by thomo on Sept 4, 2022 18:53:32 GMT 1
My my all the arseholes are on here tonight, personally apart from the finishing thought we played reasonably well, the goal should have been given and I don’t think we should be sacking the coach, reading the crap on here think I’ll be giving posting on here for a while, see you at QPR. UTT Reasonably well? You’re joking right? |
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Post by halifaxterrier9 on Sept 4, 2022 18:53:53 GMT 1
He took it? He ain’t saying no when it’s put on him. Pride would have him lead a team he’s attached to even though he knows he ain’t ready. It’s not his fault at all and folk need to stop blaming him. They’ve cocked up and put him in. Live and learn. Don’t blame him at all cba with the shit he’s getting. Nonsense, if he knows he isnt ready he doesnt have to take it at all. Do you think a brain surgeon in training has a crack even though as you say "he knows he aint ready". You do whats best for your career and take advice if you need to. Cba with all the shit he is getting? He is a big boy. If I turned that wank out week after week, I would expect no end of criticism. 😂😂 yeah alright. Deans dealt him a bag of shite. Should have kept CC and done all they could to When he went they should have got a proper man. Went for the cheap easy route. But yeah Danny’s fault. Fickle town fans as usual. Messiah is blameless |
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Post by ldr on Sept 4, 2022 18:55:56 GMT 1
My my all the arseholes are on here tonight, personally apart from the finishing thought we played reasonably well, the goal should have been given and I don’t think we should be sacking the coach, reading the crap on here think I’ll be giving posting on here for a while, see you at QPR. UTT Why the aresholes comment? Concerned fans voicing their concerns on a football forum. Disagree and have your say but there’s fuck all need for insults. |
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Post by JonsonClarkParis on Sept 4, 2022 18:59:08 GMT 1
Everytime we get into a good position as a club. We royally fuck it up.
Even with the loss of Obrien Toffolo and corberan we should still of been in a position to challenge the top 12 as a minimum.
But no we always do the cheap option we have zero ambition and the next manager will be a cheap yes man aswell.
Go out and get Sean dyche, show some bloody ambition
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Post by Sio on Sept 4, 2022 18:59:39 GMT 1
I genuinely believe the only people currently clinging onto this whole experiment are those blindly devoted to Hoyle. DS has essentially become a representation of trusting Hoyle's judgement - to call him to be removed is saying that the hierarchy got it totally wrong.
If PH had made the decision to bring him in, Schofield would've been 100% backed to be fired.
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Post by huddersfc on Sept 4, 2022 19:00:35 GMT 1
Nonsense, if he knows he isnt ready he doesnt have to take it at all. Do you think a brain surgeon in training has a crack even though as you say "he knows he aint ready". You do whats best for your career and take advice if you need to. Cba with all the shit he is getting? He is a big boy. If I turned that wank out week after week, I would expect no end of criticism. 😂😂 yeah alright. Deans dealt him a bag of shite. Should have kept CC and done all they could to When he went they should have got a proper man. Went for the cheap easy route. But yeah Danny’s fault. Fickle town fans as usual. Messiah is blameless I dont disagree that he has been dealt a bad hand. But once again he took the job on. He KNEW the players he was going to be dealing with. He KNEW what was available budget wise. He KNEW what the expectation would be after a 3rd place finish. If that last sentence is aimed at me, then you couldnt be further away from my views at all. I am a big critic of DH and I have said my piece on him a number of times on here. But come on. A blind squirrel could set us up better than DS does. He cant get the basics right, and at this level, thats criminal. |
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Post by turbo2 on Sept 4, 2022 19:03:14 GMT 1
My my all the arseholes are on here tonight, personally apart from the finishing thought we played reasonably well, the goal should have been given and I don’t think we should be sacking the coach, reading the crap on here think I’ll be giving posting on here for a while, see you at QPR. UTT I normally stay off after a loss. But calling folk arseholes isn’t really fair. We were dreadful and have 4 points after 8 games. No pattern of play and folk playing out of position. It’s a very worrying time PS. See you at QPR |
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Post by halifaxterrier9 on Sept 4, 2022 19:03:34 GMT 1
😂😂 yeah alright. Deans dealt him a bag of shite. Should have kept CC and done all they could to When he went they should have got a proper man. Went for the cheap easy route. But yeah Danny’s fault. Fickle town fans as usual. Messiah is blameless I dont disagree that he has been dealt a bad hand. But once again he took the job on. He KNEW the players he was going to be dealing with. He KNEW what was available budget wise. He KNEW what the expectation would be after a 3rd place finish. If that last sentence is aimed at me, then you couldnt be further away from my views at all. I am a big critic of DH and I have said my piece on him a number of times on here. But come on. A blind squirrel could set us up better than DS does. He cant get the basics right, and at this level, thats criminal. Answer this Ya played for the club 10 years, they’re your team. Owner asks ya. Are ya saying no? You’re not. You’re gonna wing it out of pride and try. He’s had balls to try but he ain’t ready and I bet he knows it. Should have been interim manager with no pressure. Rushed appointment straight after Carlos goes. Strikes me as knee jerk from Dean and co. Isn’t Danny’s fault and I’ll defend him Everyone’s a different opinion and respect that. But it’s not his fault in my eyes |
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Post by aca00js on Sept 4, 2022 19:04:22 GMT 1
We'd be in the same situation now if PH was still here. PH may have struck when the Iron was hot and backed one of the best managers in the country after a fantastic season. I don't want to get into another PH v DH disccusion because its boring and done to death. But PH for a few reasons didn't have the finances to do that, we have done the same style of deals we did last season. |
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Post by Champers on Sept 4, 2022 19:06:20 GMT 1
My my all the arseholes are on here tonight, personally apart from the finishing thought we played reasonably well, the goal should have been given and I don’t think we should be sacking the coach, reading the crap on here think I’ll be giving posting on here for a while, see you at QPR. UTT You do realise you've pretty much called 95% of the fanbase 'arseholes' here? |
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Post by nabbysarratemyhamster on Sept 4, 2022 19:06:20 GMT 1
The bigger question for me is when we sack him as there is no way he sees out the season…. RL were saying we are likely to wait until the international break…. I don't get this school of thought, we should be appointing someone to give us the best chance of points against QPR and if not certainly a Wigan & Cardiff.
I said he’d be gone by 5pm tomorrow and I almost felt the later spending in the transfer window was with an eye on someone else being in charge, but I don’t know if this is because I want him gone.
Let’s see but think we all know he’s a dead man walking.
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Post by oldrain on Sept 4, 2022 19:06:24 GMT 1
Need the club to change more than just the coach the whole tip tap slow ‘’we want to play like Pep “ football sick of it I want to support team who gets into the opposition half then plays football today’s formation was a joke
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