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Post by halifaxterrier9 on Sept 4, 2022 19:07:46 GMT 1
I think he’s stood down before next game tbh.
Be town though to wait for international break. Tbh be ok then we will have our new signing ready then too. 😅😅
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Sept 4, 2022 19:13:28 GMT 1
The bigger question for me is when we sack him as there is no way he sees out the season…. RL were saying we are likely to wait until the international break…. I don't get this school of thought, we should be appointing someone to give us the best chance of points against QPR and if not certainly a Wigan & Cardiff. I said he’d be gone by 5pm tomorrow and I almost felt the later spending in the transfer window was with an eye on someone else being in charge, but I don’t know if this is because I want him gone. Let’s see but think we all know he’s a dead man walking. We cannot afford to lose to both Wigan and Cardiff at home. We have already given Brum and Blackpool 3 points. We are trying to ensure that we have 3 worse teams than us so handing crap teams 3 points is suicide.
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Post by huddersfc on Sept 4, 2022 19:13:51 GMT 1
I dont disagree that he has been dealt a bad hand. But once again he took the job on. He KNEW the players he was going to be dealing with. He KNEW what was available budget wise. He KNEW what the expectation would be after a 3rd place finish. If that last sentence is aimed at me, then you couldnt be further away from my views at all. I am a big critic of DH and I have said my piece on him a number of times on here. But come on. A blind squirrel could set us up better than DS does. He cant get the basics right, and at this level, thats criminal. Answer this Ya played for the club 10 years, they’re your team. Owner asks ya. Are ya saying no? You’re not. You’re gonna wing it out of pride and try. He’s had balls to try but he ain’t ready and I bet he knows it. Should have been interim manager with no pressure. Rushed appointment straight after Carlos goes. Strikes me as knee jerk from Dean and co. Isn’t Danny’s fault and I’ll defend him Everyone’s a different opinion and respect that. But it’s not his fault in my eyes I just dont get the view at all. You cant accept a job, knowing full well what you have to work with, having been at the club in the wings, then blame the owner after a few games, because you cant even set the team up properly. CC would have had more of a right to blame the owner if he was still in a job. He could rightfully say that his best players were sold from under his nose and werent replaced with similar quality. Then I would happily take your viewpoint. Whether I would take the job or not is completely irrelevant, im not in a position to be offered the manager of a championship football club. I have both accepted a promotion at work and I have also rejected a promotion because it wasnt right for me at the time.
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Post by stinkypete on Sept 4, 2022 19:14:42 GMT 1
Which manager worth his salt would want to manage us? We are a club dying on it's arse. Might as well stick with Schofield. That’s like being diagnosed with cancer and refusing chemo. My mum refused chemo as it wouldn’t have made a difference, terrible post that!
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Post by aloadofdbullocks on Sept 4, 2022 19:14:56 GMT 1
PH may have struck when the Iron was hot and backed one of the best managers in the country after a fantastic season. I don't want to get into another PH v DH disccusion because its boring and done to death. But PH for a few reasons didn't have the finances to do that, we have done the same style of deals we did last season. OK but if PH had DH finances he may have struck whilst the iron was hot. That particular tiny window of opportunity has now gone forever.
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Post by tonytiler on Sept 4, 2022 19:16:01 GMT 1
Dont blame schofield,i blame who put him in that position.Who exactly is going to want to come in?And if we wait till the break after another possible 3 losses then the likelyhood of getting anyone in who knows what the fuck he is doing, is highly unlikely.
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Post by ball on Sept 4, 2022 19:17:09 GMT 1
Reckon the deadline days signing buys him even more time. I feel sorry for him cos this isn’t the right place or time to be given your first head coach gig. Must be on a short timeline though
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Post by aca00js on Sept 4, 2022 19:18:36 GMT 1
I don't want to get into another PH v DH disccusion because its boring and done to death. But PH for a few reasons didn't have the finances to do that, we have done the same style of deals we did last season. OK but if PH had DH finances he may have struck whilst the iron was hot. That particular tiny window of opportunity has now gone forever. He doesn't so we would be in the same situation. Nothing would change if you swapped DH for PH
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Post by cuz on Sept 4, 2022 19:19:38 GMT 1
Did maynardblue say a while back that believed he will walk? Fingers crossef.
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Post by stinkypete on Sept 4, 2022 19:23:35 GMT 1
I genuinely believe the only people currently clinging onto this whole experiment are those blindly devoted to Hoyle. DS has essentially become a representation of trusting Hoyle's judgement - to call him to be removed is saying that the hierarchy got it totally wrong. If PH had made the decision to bring him in, Schofield would've been 100% backed to be fired. Exactly this!! They can’t stand to admit “Deano” has got it badly wrong! *awaits teddy’s out of pram/chuck your millions in/entitled comeback!!
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Post by jqhtfc on Sept 4, 2022 19:24:58 GMT 1
I feel for him too a point he should never have been given the role in the first place, club can go on about continuity but realistically it was the cheap option and it’s back fired massively. He’s been dealt a shit hand players sold and not really replaced to the standard required yet still expected to achieve playoffs with that and youth players. However some of his decisions are just baffling that side today was all over the place not style of football at all he’s not helping himself.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Sept 4, 2022 19:32:04 GMT 1
Should have gone to Belgium when he had the chance
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Post by Detective Boyle on Sept 4, 2022 19:35:45 GMT 1
The problem is that Danny does not seem to be learning anything, we have played the same way each game, dominated none of them & the only way we look like scoring a goal is from a set piece. We were strong from set pieces last season when we had Lees, Pearson & Colwill attacking them, today we had Lees, Turton & Hogg! Yet still, with a total lack of height, Yuta was taking free kicks! We are either all defending or all attacking, there is no playing through the thirds of the pitch & everyone's first thought is to keep possession by turning back, yet we always ending up blasting to Ward who is left totally isolated. The young Villa lad had a nightmare first half & should have been off at HT with Turton moving to RWB & Helik coming on - how the Pole didn't get on the pitch is beyond me, unless he wasn't really fit, in which case, why the hell was he even on the bench. Big well done to Pat Jones, who quickly became our best chance of creating anything. Don’t know whether anyone else saw it, but pretty sure the villa lads mum and brother were giving someone some stick next to the dugouts, for presumably giving the lad some stick when he came off. Which is brainless so good on them. He was making some brilliant runs that we just don’t have the ability to see our meet.
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Post by heffingdream44 on Sept 4, 2022 19:45:46 GMT 1
I just can’t believe Schofield has come out after the game and said that he thought we played well. The team was booed off at both half and full time. I think the fans and the club have totally different opinions of what good looks like.
A good manager would put a rocket up the player’s arses and make them in to a good team. There’s some bloody good players there, but they aren’t interested in playing for DS.
I’d sack Schofield tonight. Dean won’t though.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Sept 4, 2022 19:48:18 GMT 1
The problem is that Danny does not seem to be learning anything, we have played the same way each game, dominated none of them & the only way we look like scoring a goal is from a set piece. We were strong from set pieces last season when we had Lees, Pearson & Colwill attacking them, today we had Lees, Turton & Hogg! Yet still, with a total lack of height, Yuta was taking free kicks! We are either all defending or all attacking, there is no playing through the thirds of the pitch & everyone's first thought is to keep possession by turning back, yet we always ending up blasting to Ward who is left totally isolated. The young Villa lad had a nightmare first half & should have been off at HT with Turton moving to RWB & Helik coming on - how the Pole didn't get on the pitch is beyond me, unless he wasn't really fit, in which case, why the hell was he even on the bench. Big well done to Pat Jones, who quickly became our best chance of creating anything. Don’t know whether anyone else saw it, but pretty sure the villa lads mum and brother were giving someone some stick next to the dugouts, for presumably giving the lad some stick when he came off. Which is brainless so good on them. He was making some brilliant runs that we just don’t have the ability to see our meet. What he would have done with the ball if found in those positions is another matter. Seeing what he's produced so far tells me it would likely have been nothing productive
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Post by DuncShearer* on Sept 4, 2022 19:51:48 GMT 1
feel for him fuck him he's playing players out of position ffs bloke was an average player he's a shit manager fuck him off now if i was as shit at my job I'd be fired immediately. Do you kiss your loved ones with that vile mouth? You come across as a nasty fool. its honesty you clown 🤡
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Post by finnmurphy1 on Sept 4, 2022 19:59:10 GMT 1
Should have gone to Belgium when he had the chance Well, he likes to waffle..
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Post by halifaxterrier9 on Sept 4, 2022 20:00:12 GMT 1
Should have gone to Belgium when he had the chance Is that where it was?
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Post by workshyfop on Sept 4, 2022 20:08:56 GMT 1
Part of the problem is CC massively overachieved. Bottom three budget usually means a bottom three (rather than top three - one day people will marvel at the job he did) finish. Not saying Schofield is the right man or not, but the squad has got weaker year on year since relegation from the Premier League. There’s only one way that usually ends. The problems are higher than the coaching staff.
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Sept 4, 2022 20:12:00 GMT 1
Sack him no come the fuck on Not his problem and he got dealt a shit hand. Keep him as a coach and get a manager in that’s it your logic would be sound if he did not play players out of position.
5 at the back today. At home. Against Blackpool.
And we still lost.
Unforgivable. Time to go Mr Schofield. Time to go.
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Post by H7 on Sept 4, 2022 20:18:40 GMT 1
We have totally gambled on every front this season and it's going horribly, horribly wrong. Inaction now means accepting relegation.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Sept 4, 2022 20:21:16 GMT 1
Not sure what everyone is worried about, ShortbreadPete has already told us all its going to work out perfectly. He's seen in to the future
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Post by mrg on Sept 4, 2022 20:28:50 GMT 1
If we get a new manager in can Bromby please but the fuck out of first team affairs and just concentrate on bringing the players in. We completely undermine our managers/head coaches with this set up More like; bromby and Dean have royally fucked up here and employed ds as he's the one standing nearest and now bromby can't butt out I bet. As someone else gas said, the players looked pissed off. Ffs we put hoggy in at the back as a stop gap and now do it every 3rd game. It's a mess of Dean and Leighs making that they need to fix.
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Post by workshyfop on Sept 4, 2022 20:30:20 GMT 1
If we get a new manager in can Bromby please but the fuck out of first team affairs and just concentrate on bringing the players in. We completely undermine our managers/head coaches with this set up More like; bromby and Dean have royally fucked up here and employed ds as he's the one standing nearest and now bromby can't butt out I bet. As someone else gas said, the players looked pissed off. Ffs we put hoggy in at the back as a stop gap and now do it every 3rd game. It's a mess of Dean and Leighs making that they need to fix. It’s never Dean’s fault. He’ll happily tell you that!
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Post by bluestripe on Sept 4, 2022 20:30:21 GMT 1
Sack him no come the fuck on Not his problem and he got dealt a shit hand. Keep him as a coach and get a manager in that’s it your logic would be sound if he did not play players out of position. 5 at the back today. At home. Against Blackpool. And we still lost. Unforgivable. Time to go Mr Schofield. Time to go.
He did not play 5 at the back today.
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Post by halifaxterrier9 on Sept 4, 2022 20:30:58 GMT 1
Sack him no come the fuck on Not his problem and he got dealt a shit hand. Keep him as a coach and get a manager in that’s it your logic would be sound if he did not play players out of position.
5 at the back today. At home. Against Blackpool.
And we still lost.
Unforgivable. Time to go Mr Schofield. Time to go.
Way inexperienced. I’ve no coaching badges we need a goal. Answer isn’t Ruffels haha
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Post by Made In Yorkshire on Sept 4, 2022 20:33:05 GMT 1
Part of the problem is CC massively overachieved. Bottom three budget usually means a bottom three (rather than top three - one day people will marvel at the job he did) finish. Not saying Schofield is the right man or not, but the squad has got weaker year on year since relegation from the Premier League. There’s only one way that usually ends. The problems are higher than the coaching staff. OR Part of the problem is that CC did a fantastic job with the players available and it just shows how fortunate we were to have him as manager.
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Post by nicovaesen on Sept 4, 2022 20:36:59 GMT 1
If Schofield went tomorrow and dean appointed Wagner, would people be happy? Certainly a lot happier than I am now, at least Wagner demands a decent level of fitness!! This we looked absolutely bollocked after 35 minutes
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Post by space hardware on Sept 4, 2022 20:40:25 GMT 1
I can't believe anyone watching that today could say we played well.
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Sept 4, 2022 20:41:50 GMT 1
Not sure what everyone is worried about, ShortbreadPete has already told us all its going to work out perfectly. He's seen in to the future If having a dig at me helps you feel better that's fine with me. Let's be fair though, I did not use the word 'perfectly'. Things will work out but I said it required patience. I also said that it was too early to judge DS and that he needs more time. I stand by that.
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