Blueblood
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Post by Blueblood on Oct 1, 2022 17:13:44 GMT 1
Well what a set of complete fucking talentless fuckers.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Oct 1, 2022 17:14:04 GMT 1
Watching a team that consistently drop off, too deep, too quickly and too narrow, who then stay in there too long, is becoming hard to watch over and over.
We only intermitently play where the ball is and we end up in big lumps or miles away from each other, there is no idea of playing as units, its pretty much everyman for himself when they get the ball or are making a challenge.
Requires hard work to support the ball or your team mate all over the pitch
and its just not there.
Still picking players who can play, but will not or cant put the work required in and it costs us.
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drewden
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Post by drewden on Oct 1, 2022 17:14:16 GMT 1
Known it for years, but some on here have just confirmed to me we have a large number of knee-jerk reactionary crybabies, its pathetic, yes we were shit but give the bloke a fkn chance. I am afraid there is no choice, but that performance by H.T.F.C was the worst I have witnessed since I have supported them nearly 52 years. |
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Post by Big Ern on Oct 1, 2022 17:16:39 GMT 1
Cheap players, cheap head coach, cheap mindset. The problem sits at the top
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Oct 1, 2022 17:18:03 GMT 1
Didn't see it or listen to it but deciding MF is shit already truly is pathetic. He may well prove to be shit but you have got to give the bloke a chance. 6 games in charge will give us a better idea, & yes, we could be anchored at the bottom by then but what happened in the first 9 games is nowt to do with him. He's joined a team whose confidence is lower than a snake's testicles, if he proves he's not up to it, fine, have a go at him but it's ridiculous to say he's crap already.
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Post by Orinoco on Oct 1, 2022 17:18:09 GMT 1
at least M F will know what the task ahead is!!
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Post by colnevalleyblue on Oct 1, 2022 17:18:20 GMT 1
Known it for years, but some on here have just confirmed to me we have a large number of knee-jerk reactionary crybabies, its pathetic, yes we were shit but give the bloke a fkn chance. I am afraid there is no choice, but that performance by H.T.F.C was the worst I have witnessed since I have supported them nearly 52 years. It was the worst performance of the season but you've seen alot worse in 52 years. |
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Post by bradley1985 on Oct 1, 2022 17:19:47 GMT 1
Manager talks a good game but can’t back it up
Is that the fans fault ?
Should have kept his mouth closed - players don’t appear interested in him so far
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Post by ACW on Oct 1, 2022 17:20:20 GMT 1
Watching a team that consistently drop off, too deep, too quickly and too narrow, who then stay in there too long, is becoming hard to watch over and over. We only intermitently play where the ball is and we end up in big lumps or miles away from each other, there is no idea of playing as units, its pretty much everyman for himself when they get the ball or are making a challenge. Requires hard work to support the ball or your team mate all over the pitch and its just not there. Still picking players who can play, but will not or cant put the work required in and it costs us. Didn't see today's game, but that is what I've been seeing all season. As you say, we don't play in units and the positioning of the players is bizzare. Either on top of each other or nowhere near the man in possession. As you say, we look like a set of individuals playing with no clear identity or plan. And the support play - when attacking or defending - has been poor to say the least. |
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Post by waltzingthecowshed on Oct 1, 2022 17:20:41 GMT 1
Known it for years, but some on here have just confirmed to me we have a large number of knee-jerk reactionary crybabies, its pathetic, yes we were shit but give the bloke a fkn chance. I am afraid there is no choice, but that performance by H.T.F.C was the worst I have witnessed since I have supported them nearly 52 years. I agree but how is that the Fotheringhams fault ? his first week so he gets a pass he hasn’t had enough time to unstill anything yet ... ffs it’s the players !!! they will never be good enough some of them, face reality , no coach can make them into something that is an impossibility |
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buckers
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Post by buckers on Oct 1, 2022 17:22:06 GMT 1
Header that Rhodes should have easily cleared. Lees clears a cross straight onto Nichols , own goal Mbete with a piece of control that would embarrass a child, Helix retrieves the situation by putting the ball past Nichols for a player to score from 2 inches. Nichols did not make a single save, Reading are crap, we were appalling. Give me strength |
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drewden
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Post by drewden on Oct 1, 2022 17:22:36 GMT 1
I am afraid there is no choice, but that performance by H.T.F.C was the worst I have witnessed since I have supported them nearly 52 years. It was the worst performance of the season but you've seen alot worse in 52 years. No, that's the worst I have seen in 52 years, it was that bad, unless someone can remind me of a performance as bad. |
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Post by CurlyWurly on Oct 1, 2022 17:22:47 GMT 1
What's going on here then?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2022 17:22:58 GMT 1
I am afraid there is no choice, but that performance by H.T.F.C was the worst I have witnessed since I have supported them nearly 52 years. I agree but how is that the Fotheringhams fault ? his first week so he gets a pass he hasn’t had enough time to unstill anything yet ... ffs it’s the players !!! they will never be good enough some of them, face reality , no coach can make them into something that is an impossibility Because somehow we are miles worse than we were against cardiff, he’s just been tactically outclassed by Paul Ince. Great opportunity to start on a high and that’s as bad as it’s ever been, dropping Camara for Russell was criminal. |
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Post by buckers on Oct 1, 2022 17:23:54 GMT 1
I am afraid there is no choice, but that performance by H.T.F.C was the worst I have witnessed since I have supported them nearly 52 years. I agree but how is that the Fotheringhams fault ? his first week so he gets a pass he hasn’t had enough time to unstill anything yet ... ffs it’s the players !!! they will never be good enough some of them, face reality , no coach can make them into something that is an impossibility Fuck off in one game Chicho did? |
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Post by andyeastleake on Oct 1, 2022 17:23:58 GMT 1
I feel sorry for Fotheringham. I hope he’s locked the dressing room door and reading the riot act to that embarrassing shower of shite. Get them all back in to Canalside first thing tomorrow. TBF Fotheringham set the trend by dropping Camara & putting in Russell... ....after Camara had a MOTM performance & Russell has basically been dog-sh*8te all season. ....Seriously has he not bothered to watch any DVD of games we've played..... ....because it's a breathtaking decision if he has... This board was fairly positive two weeks ago ...& even after some pretty basic training footage... it's going to be toxic tonight |
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Post by softboy on Oct 1, 2022 17:24:48 GMT 1
He’s got a 0% win rate. Worst in our history. Lost all his away games. Conceeded 3 goals today which works out at just under 150 a season. Has to go. I think I’ve read the mood of the fans
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Post by detox on Oct 1, 2022 17:25:05 GMT 1
Cheap players, cheap head coach, cheap mindset. The problem sits at the top Card Shop-itis ... |
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Post by specialun on Oct 1, 2022 17:26:30 GMT 1
Can’t be judged on today or Tuesday or next Sun
Needs time - agree
But unfortunately for him that’s one thing he doesn’t have given he’s a nobody appointment - fans need to have something to cling to even if results aren’t there
I don’t agree with the point re low confidence - we won our last game!
He’s not helped himself by coming across as billy big bollocks from his 9 games as assistant at Hertha, talk of full throttle football - If you talk that you need to deliver quick!
Not helped himself dropping Camara - either suggests he hasn’t watch the last game (unlikely), poor decision of wants to show whose in charge… either way a daft move
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Post by waltzingthecowshed on Oct 1, 2022 17:28:13 GMT 1
Nichols Sorba Lees only starters from Wembley in the starting line up today it’s a total different proposition of a team we’ve lost too many competent players
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Post by waltzingthecowshed on Oct 1, 2022 17:31:13 GMT 1
I agree but how is that the Fotheringhams fault ? his first week so he gets a pass he hasn’t had enough time to unstill anything yet ... ffs it’s the players !!! they will never be good enough some of them, face reality , no coach can make them into something that is an impossibility Fuck off in one game Chicho did? Was that game so wonderful? Your not going to convince me it isn’t the players fault and Hoyle and that arse licker Bromby for this situation |
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Post by buckers on Oct 1, 2022 17:32:32 GMT 1
Fuck off in one game Chicho did? Was that game so wonderful? Your not going to convince me it isn’t the players fault and Hoyle and that arse licker Bromby for this situation We won didn’t we? Did we win that game? |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Oct 1, 2022 17:33:03 GMT 1
Watching a team that consistently drop off, too deep, too quickly and too narrow, who then stay in there too long, is becoming hard to watch over and over. We only intermitently play where the ball is and we end up in big lumps or miles away from each other, there is no idea of playing as units, its pretty much everyman for himself when they get the ball or are making a challenge. Requires hard work to support the ball or your team mate all over the pitch and its just not there. Still picking players who can play, but will not or cant put the work required in and it costs us. Didn't see today's game, but that is what I've been seeing all season. As you say, we don't play in units and the positioning of the players is bizzare. Either on top of each other or nowhere near the man in possession. As you say, we look like a set of individuals playing with no clear identity or plan. And the support play - when attacking or defending - has been poor to say the least. We are not a good fotballing side, we were not last season either. We made it hard for teams by covering each other and often simply swamping any attacking ideas they had, in between we scored from a set piece. Pearson is a big miss for us. Like it or not. Sorba was a passenger in games that we lost last season, he is a passenger all the time now. If we just considered passing forward first more often it would help. Teams sit on us, we are all in a lump or a line, we dont defend with width so when we do turn it over we have no fucker out near the wings to get out. We try the eye of the needle passing out or square ball or backwards, which just keeps the opposition up, or we just clear it 30 yards and it comes back. Its unbelievable how long opposition centre backs spend in our half? I watch clearances from the opponents go to their own men, they dont all come back , they dont all hang back like a bad smell, they have out balls. Reading were average to poor but we give those teams the space and time to play in our half, in and around our box and we pay for it. |
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Post by waltzingthecowshed on Oct 1, 2022 17:37:23 GMT 1
Was that game so wonderful? Your not going to convince me it isn’t the players fault and Hoyle and that arse licker Bromby for this situation We won didn’t we? Did we win that game? We won but was it that wonderful?It was an improvement Did it make you believe those players are good enough to keep that up all season it didn’t convince me it was a on off but I can understand how after such a shit show under Schofield you might have a different opinion but one game one win that’s no measure just like today |
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Post by waltzingthecowshed on Oct 1, 2022 17:40:06 GMT 1
Didn't see today's game, but that is what I've been seeing all season. As you say, we don't play in units and the positioning of the players is bizzare. Either on top of each other or nowhere near the man in possession. As you say, we look like a set of individuals playing with no clear identity or plan. And the support play - when attacking or defending - has been poor to say the least. We are not a good fotballing side, we were not last season either. We made it hard for teams by covering each other and often simply swamping any attacking ideas they had, in between we scored from a set piece. Pearson is a big miss for us. Like it or not. Sorba was a passenger in games that we lost last season, he is a passenger all the time now. If we just considered passing forward first more often it would help. Teams sit on us, we are all in a lump or a line, we dont defend with width so when we do turn it over we have no fucker out near the wings to get out. We try the eye of the needle passing out or square ball or backwards, which just keeps the opposition up, or we just clear it 30 yards and it comes back. Its unbelievable how long opposition centre backs spend in our half? I watch clearances from the opponents go to their own men, they dont all come back , they dont all hang back like a bad smell, they have out balls. Reading were average to poor but we give those teams the space and time to play in our half, in and around our box and we pay for it. 👏 Agree with everything you say here |
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flevans
Tom Cowan Terrier
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Post by flevans on Oct 1, 2022 17:41:03 GMT 1
My dad says I'm not allowed to support a different football team, not now not ever. It's like a bloody prison sentence
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Post by HalifaxTerrier on Oct 1, 2022 17:43:47 GMT 1
I feel sorry for Fotheringham. I hope he’s locked the dressing room door and reading the riot act to that embarrassing shower of shite. Get them all back in to Canalside first thing tomorrow. TBF Fotheringham set the trend by dropping Camara & putting in Russell... ....after Camara had a MOTM performance & Russell has basically been dog-sh*8te all season. ....Seriously has he not bothered to watch any DVD of games we've played..... ....because it's a breathtaking decision if he has... This board was fairly positive two weeks ago ...& even after some pretty basic training footage... it's going to be toxic tonight That’s my big gripe about today. I want to give him time etc but what the hell was that decision all about? Playing Sorba out of position grates on me too, I mean, he’s looked consistently dreadful in all other positions, either play him on the right from the off or drop him. It’s like we just try to shoehorn him in every week now. |
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Post by tepidterrier on Oct 1, 2022 17:46:17 GMT 1
What's going on here then? well if that's that bloke priced out of our games for the near future, then good. Completely get the frustration with how expensive it is to follow a team nowadays, but taking it out on Sorba is cowardly- he was only saying it to him because he's the scapegoat at the minute. |
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Post by Teddington Ted on Oct 1, 2022 17:47:33 GMT 1
The last three months have seen the hope, optimism, enthusiasm, spirit and soul sucked out of the club.
It was a huge job to turn around a similar situation following Siewart, cost big Phil a fortune in loan fees and wages.
To be back in the same scenario 3 years later is shambolic. Sadly, I’m not sure Hoyle & Bromby have the inclination or nous to repeat that escape.
A disappointing debut from MF. If you’re gonna turn up and talk the talk, you need to back it up far better than displays like that. Hopefully he’s a fast learner and gets some kind of response for Luton. I actually don’t mind losing but if such an insipid display becomes commonplace the pressure and questions will start to mount.
Reading are third and, realistically, today was a free hit. Sadly we missed entirely and will take very few positives from it going forward.
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Post by iangreaves on Oct 1, 2022 17:48:22 GMT 1
Feared the worst when I saw Russell’s name on the team sheet.
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