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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Oct 1, 2022 17:48:45 GMT 1
The last three months have seen the hope, optimism, enthusiasm, spirit and soul sucked out of the club. It was a huge job to turn around a similar situation under following Siewart, cost big Phil a fortune in loan fees and wages. To be back in the same scenario 3 years later is shambolic. Sadly, I’m not sure Hoyle & Bromby have the inclination or nous to repeat that escape. A disappointing debut from MF. If you’re gonna turn up and talk the talk, you need to back it up far better than displays like that. Hopefully he’s a fast learner and gets some kind of response for Luton. I actually don’t mind losing but if such an insipid display becomes commonplace the pressure and questions will start to mount. Reading are third and, realistically, today was a free hit. Sadly we missed entirely and will take very few positives from it going forward. Luton will stroll to three points. Hull is the must win game |
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Post by bogart on Oct 1, 2022 17:49:12 GMT 1
Known it for years, but some on here have just confirmed to me we have a large number of knee-jerk reactionary crybabies, its pathetic, yes we were shit but give the bloke a fkn chance. I am afraid there is no choice, but that performance by H.T.F.C was the worst I have witnessed since I have supported them nearly 52 years. My must have been bad I have seen some shockers over the same years. |
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Post by bogart on Oct 1, 2022 17:51:00 GMT 1
Manager talks a good game but can’t back it up Is that the fans fault ? Should have kept his mouth closed - players don’t appear interested in him so far Heck when did he start? oh yes this week for god's sake all his fault already. |
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Post by willo on Oct 1, 2022 17:53:26 GMT 1
Starting to remind me of the 87/88 season under “supermac”. A losing mentality we just couldn’t shake off with a manager out of ideas and a lot of us know what the endgame was then. Still time to sort things out but hell, it needs sorting sharpish.
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Post by tepidterrier on Oct 1, 2022 17:53:43 GMT 1
Can’t be judged on today or Tuesday or next Sun Needs time - agree But unfortunately for him that’s one thing he doesn’t have given he’s a nobody appointment - fans need to have something to cling to even if results aren’t there I don’t agree with the point re low confidence - we won our last game! He’s not helped himself by coming across as billy big bollocks from his 9 games as assistant at Hertha, talk of full throttle football - If you talk that you need to deliver quick! Not helped himself dropping Camara - either suggests he hasn’t watch the last game (unlikely), poor decision of wants to show whose in charge… either way a daft move He was at the Cardiff game apparently, which makes it more confusing. Russell must've shown something extra in training, or Camara might've had a little knock, who knows |
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Post by waltzingthecowshed on Oct 1, 2022 17:58:11 GMT 1
“You can see the quality in the squad “
Really !!!!!!!! Name these players of quality Mark
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Post by galpharm2400 on Oct 1, 2022 17:58:32 GMT 1
We are not a good fotballing side, we were not last season either. We made it hard for teams by covering each other and often simply swamping any attacking ideas they had, in between we scored from a set piece. Pearson is a big miss for us. Like it or not. Sorba was a passenger in games that we lost last season, he is a passenger all the time now. If we just considered passing forward first more often it would help. Teams sit on us, we are all in a lump or a line, we dont defend with width so when we do turn it over we have no fucker out near the wings to get out. We try the eye of the needle passing out or square ball or backwards, which just keeps the opposition up, or we just clear it 30 yards and it comes back. Its unbelievable how long opposition centre backs spend in our half? I watch clearances from the opponents go to their own men, they dont all come back , they dont all hang back like a bad smell, they have out balls. Reading were average to poor but we give those teams the space and time to play in our half, in and around our box and we pay for it. 👏 Agree with everything you say here Can I just thank the West Ham centre forward, who took ages to take a 25 yard out free kick , replacing the ball twice, spitting hard a few times and nodding his head at Creswell(a good free kick taker) before skillfully, belting the fucker into the top tier. It brightened my day and I have laughed out loud, the twat..😁😁 Bollocks he just scored..😳 |
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Post by tepidterrier on Oct 1, 2022 18:03:11 GMT 1
Known it for years, but some on here have just confirmed to me we have a large number of knee-jerk reactionary crybabies, its pathetic, yes we were shit but give the bloke a fkn chance. I am afraid there is no choice, but that performance by H.T.F.C was the worst I have witnessed since I have supported them nearly 52 years. Could buy Toffolo and O'Brien with the number of times I've heard that! (I promise it would still be a lot of money). It was shite but there's many worse. Even going by managers' first games, Mark Robins starting with a 6-1 defeat was far worse. The worst I've seen in the last few years was Bristol City 5-2 away early on under the Cowleys |
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Post by specialun on Oct 1, 2022 18:03:28 GMT 1
Crikey
We were great in the second half
They found it hard to find space against us
Just a few naive individual mistakes
Did we win?!
I’ll have a pint of whatever he’s having - presumably protecting the players rather than how he really sees it
Anyhow a horrible game at Luton away might just be what we need.
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Post by ACW on Oct 1, 2022 18:13:48 GMT 1
I am afraid there is no choice, but that performance by H.T.F.C was the worst I have witnessed since I have supported them nearly 52 years. Could buy Toffolo and O'Brien with the number of times I've heard that! (I promise it would still be a lot of money). It was shite but there's many worse. Even going by managers' first games, Mark Robins starting with a 6-1 defeat was far worse. The worst I've seen in the last few years was Bristol City 5-2 away early on under the Cowleys Some of our appearances live on Sky have delivered some absolute shockers. We always save them for the rest of the nation to see, don't we? The 7-1 at Barnsley. The mauling at Norwich a few seasons ago. The one that sticks in my mind is a 3-1 loss at Yeovil (League One?) on Sky that could easy have been double figures. The first half was one of the worst I've ever seen from a Town team. The commentators joked at half time that they didn't have time to show all the great Yeovil chances, never mind the half chances they created. In terms of shite performances, a 6-0 away thrashing at Swindon stands out (mid 90s?) and conceding 6 at Scunthorpe when Jacko was in charge. Today was shite, but there have been far, far worse performances. |
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Post by Teddington Ted on Oct 1, 2022 18:14:44 GMT 1
I am afraid there is no choice, but that performance by H.T.F.C was the worst I have witnessed since I have supported them nearly 52 years. Could buy Toffolo and O'Brien with the number of times I've heard that! (I promise it would still be a lot of money). It was shite but there's many worse. Even going by managers' first games, Mark Robins starting with a 6-1 defeat was far worse. The worst I've seen in the last few years was Bristol City 5-2 away early on under the Cowleys Ha, that was shite. I’d almost forgotten I was there. Thanks for the reminder 😩 |
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Post by alfredsterrier on Oct 1, 2022 18:17:47 GMT 1
In response to Camara not playing, it’s because we have to protect him?
I have to say I find it really disappointing if a 19 year old can’t play a whole game 2 weeks ago, train and then can’t play the next game.
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Post by Teddington Ted on Oct 1, 2022 18:21:56 GMT 1
In response to Camara not playing, it’s because we have to protect him? I have to say I find it really disappointing if a 19 year old can’t play a whole game 2 weeks ago, train and then can’t play the next game. Lazy excuse to cover a balls up. |
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Post by jim59 on Oct 1, 2022 18:29:00 GMT 1
Bromby please leave.
Dean get a manager.
Forgot this head coach crap
Administrators in charge modern disease!
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Post by araucaria on Oct 1, 2022 18:30:11 GMT 1
Starting to remind me of the 87/88 season under “supermac”. A losing mentality we just couldn’t shake off with a manager out of ideas and a lot of us know what the endgame was then. Still time to sort things out but hell, it needs sorting sharpish. Supermac's first game was a 3-2 defeat at Reading. We were 2-0 down at half-time, 3-0 later on, and two goals from Duncan Shearer brought us back into it. Three weeks later we lost away again... |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Oct 1, 2022 18:33:01 GMT 1
Crikey We were great in the second half They found it hard to find space against us Just a few naive individual mistakes Did we win?! I’ll have a pint of whatever he’s having - presumably protecting the players rather than how he really sees it Anyhow a horrible game at Luton away might just be what we need. At 2 0 I suspect their desire to find space lessened as the game went on.? The individual errors come from being in the wrong places, by choice, far too often. |
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Post by bigtruck on Oct 1, 2022 18:41:37 GMT 1
I listened to some of the tin foil hat brigade on here go on about how LB involved in team matters and laughed it off.
But I’m starting to think with players out of position, starting over others or being omitted altogether, there may be some truth in it.
As far as the game I switched off after the first half having watched 45 minutes of what looked like some shite Sunday league team.
All we did was foul and hoof it. It was absolutely diabolical to watch. Those saying he’s only had a week, how do you think it changes. He hasn’t come in and said “what I like to do is play really strong possession football and a high press, but today just twat it as far as you can and run around like dickheads. “ you instil a small amount of your game plan as quick as possible to show some change. If this is how he thinks football is played and said so in his interview then I think we need to check if Derren Brown is his agent.
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Post by buckers on Oct 1, 2022 18:46:08 GMT 1
We won didn’t we? Did we win that game? We won but was it that wonderful?It was an improvement Did it make you believe those players are good enough to keep that up all season it didn’t convince me it was a on off but I can understand how after such a shit show under Schofield you might have a different opinion but one game one win that’s no measure just like today Fuck wonderful! We’re bottom of the league!!! Get of the boards dick some of you! |
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Post by Is It Eidur Gudjohnsen on Oct 1, 2022 18:56:11 GMT 1
We won but was it that wonderful?It was an improvement Did it make you believe those players are good enough to keep that up all season it didn’t convince me it was a on off but I can understand how after such a shit show under Schofield you might have a different opinion but one game one win that’s no measure just like today Fuck wonderful! We’re bottom of the league!!! Get of the boards dick some of you! I thought we were still a point above Coventry, even after their win? Next week however… |
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Post by sabailand on Oct 1, 2022 18:56:14 GMT 1
Starting to remind me of the 87/88 season under “supermac”. A losing mentality we just couldn’t shake off with a manager out of ideas and a lot of us know what the endgame was then. Still time to sort things out but hell, it needs sorting sharpish. Supermac's first game was a 3-2 defeat at Reading. We were 2-0 down at half-time, 3-0 later on, and two goals from Duncan Shearer brought us back into it. Three weeks later we lost away again... I went to that one, it was day after the massive storm that weatherman Michael Fish said we wouldnt have, trees and branches all over the shop down there. |
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Post by ACW on Oct 1, 2022 18:58:21 GMT 1
In response to Camara not playing, it’s because we have to protect him? IMO we need to play Camara to protect the supporters from having to watch Russell. |
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Oct 1, 2022 19:07:27 GMT 1
Interesting to see who plays in the next game.
Hopefully available on iFollow?
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Post by runner76 on Oct 1, 2022 19:18:45 GMT 1
He’s got a 0% win rate. Worst in our history. Lost all his away games. Conceeded 3 goals today which works out at just under 150 a season. Has to go. I think I’ve read the mood of the fans I remember another manager who started on a 3-1 loss…. |
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Post by townrwe on Oct 1, 2022 19:34:44 GMT 1
Interesting to see who plays in the next game. Hopefully available on iFollow? Not sure where I would start, we don't have 11 capable players. Nichols Turton helik Lees Jackson Kasumu camara Sorba Rudoni Mahoney Tino No point in my opinion selecting ward or Rhodes as the ball is just bouncing off them and coming back to us.... we need to hope Simpson is some striker. |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Oct 1, 2022 19:35:21 GMT 1
He’s got a 0% win rate. Worst in our history. Lost all his away games. Conceeded 3 goals today which works out at just under 150 a season. Has to go. I think I’ve read the mood of the fans I remember another manager who started on a 3-1 loss…. Who? |
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Post by space hardware on Oct 1, 2022 19:37:47 GMT 1
I remember another manager who started on a 3-1 loss…. Who? Wagner |
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Post by Waterloo Terrier on Oct 1, 2022 19:39:43 GMT 1
Interesting to see who plays in the next game. Hopefully available on iFollow? Not sure where I would start, we don't have 11 capable players. Nichols Turton helik Lees Jackson Kasumu camara Sorba Rudoni Mahoney Tino No point in my opinion selecting ward or Rhodes as the ball is just bouncing off them and coming back to us.... we need to hope Simpson is some striker. Chico had the right idea. Keep it tight at the back and then Rhodes/Ward might nick one at the other end. If Russell ever ends up in a 2 man midfield for us again I’m going to lose it. Two of Kasumu, Camera, Hogg, Rudoni all the way. Mbete can have a stint in the B team after those first two appearances. |
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Post by Teddington Ted on Oct 1, 2022 19:42:56 GMT 1
Chico is entering Ken Monkou territory. I give it 2 years until he’s featuring in our ‘greatest manager ever’ polls.
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Post by rugbyterrier on Oct 1, 2022 19:51:10 GMT 1
Starting to remind me of the 87/88 season under “supermac”. A losing mentality we just couldn’t shake off with a manager out of ideas and a lot of us know what the endgame was then. Still time to sort things out but hell, it needs sorting sharpish. I agree , I saw far too many games that season. Still single, only just moved to Rugby and loved Town with a passion. Now 58 and have no desire to watch the clusterfook unfold that so many people have foreseen. How long til we here the classic Supermac quote " the third, fourth and seventh were definitely offside" after the Man City game. |
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Post by ronaldinio on Oct 1, 2022 19:52:25 GMT 1
Promised I would not comment……..but I have to because my club is going through a living car crash before our eyes.
The Reading fans also watching the Spurs game before ours at the excellent Jazz Cafe area - so nice when fans mix - were all puzzled by our position, even more so by the coach appointment but also pleasant and reassuring saying “you’ll turn it around ……just not today please!” To which I crossed my fingers at thinking could we?
Well , wow (again) I am now terrified as we are in free fall and don’t seem to realise it or care ….except maybe one or two of the players.
I won’t pick on people, but whatever the training pitch has had on it this last week was a waste of time, I’d even investigate the game for betting fraud as some of those errors are beyond odd.
Team spirit totally flat , players looking at each other puzzled, zero bonding and I’m afraid our new head coach will probably be out of a job come March 1st when safety is no longer a reality. We are in a very serious position and I am not being dramatic, I am being pragmatic……so how do we stop this? Fans can cheer (I personally never ever boo) but driving home to Oxfordshire afterwards I struggled to find one single positive, except Lees tearful exit after applauding our fans.
So Reading fans afterwards thought the match stats did not reflect the game, wished us well and shook hands on agreeing 7:1 would have been a fair scoreline.
Seriously worried - will still support - but very very worried
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