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Post by Captainslapper on Oct 11, 2022 9:26:18 GMT 1
We played some brilliant football under Bruce during the first 2/3's of his first season. All went to sh*t when Stewart was sold, though. It'd have been interesting to see what Jacko could have achieved with the money Rubery splashed. Well he tried to sign Lucketti and Irons but they didn't want to come, Jacko gets the boot Bruce comes in and they couldn't sign fast enough. Not sure about that. The version of events I heard with Kenny irons was that him and his agent were driving over for a meeting with Town discussing what sort of wage they were going to ask for and they agreed they'd try for £1k a week in the hope of getting somewhere near it. Then the first thing Ayre said to them in the meeting was Its £4k a week, take it or leave it. .. then they couldn't sign fast enough! |
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Post by Porrohman on Oct 11, 2022 9:31:50 GMT 1
Well he tried to sign Lucketti and Irons but they didn't want to come, Jacko gets the boot Bruce comes in and they couldn't sign fast enough. Not sure about that. The version of events I heard with Kenny irons was that him and his agent were driving over for a meeting with Town discussing what sort of wage they were going to ask for and they agreed they'd try for £1k a week in the hope of getting somewhere near it. Then the first thing Ayre said to them in the meeting was Its £4k a week, take it or leave it. .. then they couldn't sign fast enough! But we'd tried signing both under Jackson and they'd knocked us back, a "big name" manager comes in and they sign. Maybe if they'd known we were throwing money around they'd have risked coming under Jacko 🤔 |
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Post by araucaria on Oct 11, 2022 10:01:28 GMT 1
Classic memory error made by many fans. We’d already gone downhill massively several weeks before that - I can well remember Charlton playing us off the park at the McAlpine in late December and being embarrassingly poor at Blackburn and Birmingham in January. We didn’t sell Stewart until February. IIRC we sold him on 1st Feb. Not as though the results had been poor for a while, it was short enough at the time to call it a blip. Stewy's last game for us was a draw away at Palace. We weren't in free fall. Unfortunately that "blip" then continued long after the sale of Stewart. Curbishley pointedly didn't even mention us as contenders after they won here. We would surely have made the play-offs though if we hadn't sold him, or if Martin Smith hadn't been made of glass. |
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Post by Torquayterrier on Oct 11, 2022 10:15:46 GMT 1
I remember going away to Fulham where we completely capitulated (Lee Clark scored twice!).
Because the players came out from a corner near away end the staff had to walk fairly close to us, Bruce was doing his best to avoid any eye contact with Town fans at the end.
He must have known it was only a matter of time before was shown the door.
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Post by Captainslapper on Oct 11, 2022 10:30:53 GMT 1
Not sure about that. The version of events I heard with Kenny irons was that him and his agent were driving over for a meeting with Town discussing what sort of wage they were going to ask for and they agreed they'd try for £1k a week in the hope of getting somewhere near it. Then the first thing Ayre said to them in the meeting was Its £4k a week, take it or leave it. .. then they couldn't sign fast enough! But we'd tried signing both under Jackson and they'd knocked us back, a "big name" manager comes in and they sign. Maybe if they'd known we were throwing money around they'd have risked coming under Jacko 🤔 They knocked us back or Tranmere and Bury knocked us back? I certainly cant believe it would be the former if we had offered them what we eventually did. |
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Post by Tinpot on Oct 11, 2022 11:06:40 GMT 1
But we'd tried signing both under Jackson and they'd knocked us back, a "big name" manager comes in and they sign. Maybe if they'd known we were throwing money around they'd have risked coming under Jacko 🤔 They knocked us back or Tranmere and Bury knocked us back? I certainly cant believe it would be the former if we had offered them what we eventually did. I recall the narrative being that they wanted to play under a big name manager. How true that was, I don't know. |
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Post by Captainslapper on Oct 11, 2022 11:13:16 GMT 1
They knocked us back or Tranmere and Bury knocked us back? I certainly cant believe it would be the former if we had offered them what we eventually did. I recall the narrative being that they wanted to play under a big name manager. How true that was, I don't know. That was Rubery's excuse for ditching Jacko.. that we needed a 'big name' manager to attract players, sponsors etc... put the club in the news a bit more. I just find it a bit hard to believe that if we'd offered Kenny Irons £4k a week under Jacko that he wouldn't have jumped at coming here when he was probably on an eighth of that at Tranmere. Same for Lucketti. |
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Post by Tinpot on Oct 11, 2022 11:16:44 GMT 1
IIRC we sold him on 1st Feb. Not as though the results had been poor for a while, it was short enough at the time to call it a blip. Stewy's last game for us was a draw away at Palace. We weren't in free fall. Unfortunately that "blip" then continued long after the sale of Stewart. Curbishley pointedly didn't even mention us as contenders after they won here. We would surely have made the play-offs though if we hadn't sold him, or if Martin Smith hadn't been made of glass. He might not have - I don't know - but the league table said we were. It was a 5 horse race for autos - Man City, Charlton, Ipswich, Barnsley and ourselves when we sold Marcus Stewart - huge gap between 5th and 6th. www.11v11.com/league-tables/league-division-1/01-february-2000/As for not being contenders, we were above Charlton in 2nd place on New Years Day! www.11v11.com/league-tables/league-division-1/01-january-2000/ |
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Post by Porrohman on Oct 11, 2022 11:21:44 GMT 1
But we'd tried signing both under Jackson and they'd knocked us back, a "big name" manager comes in and they sign. Maybe if they'd known we were throwing money around they'd have risked coming under Jacko 🤔 They knocked us back or Tranmere and Bury knocked us back? I certainly cant believe it would be the former if we had offered them what we eventually did. Tbf, at that time, it would've been a sideways move for both of them. All I know is what I was told at the time, they weren't interested in signing for Town. Maybe we weren't offering that kind of money at that time until Bruce took over. Wasn't it Bruce who was looking through the contracts and saw what we were paying Chris Beech and got him a pay rise up to what the others were on 🤔 |
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Post by irverino on Sept 10, 2024 10:56:35 GMT 1
Back at JSS a fortnight today......Blackpool at home 24th Sept @7-45pm.
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Post by aksaiblue on Sept 10, 2024 12:07:26 GMT 1
Back at JSS a fortnight today......Blackpool at home 24th Sept @7-45pm. You never know, he may be gone again by then  |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Sept 10, 2024 12:13:29 GMT 1
Bring your cabbages
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Post by Tinpot on Sept 10, 2024 12:28:47 GMT 1
When I saw the title of this thread I thought Blackpool were even worse than us for sacking managers quickly!
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Post by jared on Sept 10, 2024 12:49:02 GMT 1
Why not just start a new thread?
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Post by townarentbest on Sept 13, 2024 17:15:44 GMT 1
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Post by irverino on Sept 13, 2024 17:24:30 GMT 1
Until EFL move it (which they haven't) then I don't think it gets picked up by the others.....Defo Tues 24th, both Town & Blackpool are selling tickets again for new date. |
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Post by bogart on Sept 16, 2024 17:11:21 GMT 1
He looked a tad overweight on Saturday.
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Post by benroberts on Sept 16, 2024 17:24:46 GMT 1
Any particular Saturday in the last 20 years?
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Post by bogart on Sept 17, 2024 11:14:00 GMT 1
Oh you are awful.
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Post by Wagner Uber Alles on Sept 18, 2024 13:16:13 GMT 1
I don’t understand the hate for Bruce. He’s not the best manager out there, but he’s definitely not the worst. I reckon if we’d have ended up with him a second time (hypothetical) rather than with DM, we’d more likely than not still be in the Championship.
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Post by colnevalleyblue on Sept 18, 2024 13:57:04 GMT 1
I don’t understand the hate for Bruce. He’s not the best manager out there, but he’s definitely not the worst. I reckon if we’d have ended up with him a second time (hypothetical) rather than with DM, we’d more likely than not still be in the Championship. Couldn't stand the bloke for years after he left us but in the last decade I have mellowed to him and quite like him now. Thought he was treated really badly by Newcastle fans and started to feel sorry for him. He's had a successful managerial career. |
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Post by royrace on Sept 18, 2024 15:08:23 GMT 1
I don’t understand the hate for Bruce. He’s not the best manager out there, but he’s definitely not the worst. I reckon if we’d have ended up with him a second time (hypothetical) rather than with DM, we’d more likely than not still be in the Championship. Same here, don't blame him at all for what happened in 99/00 and he's gone on to have a very good career, now prepared to manage in the third tier when I dare say he doesn't need the cash so proves his love for the game. Needs to work on his dress sense though, looked like he was dressed for doing the gardening or putting the bins out on Saturday, seemed to be a Primark joggers and sweat shirt combo. I know the youth seem to think wearing joggers in public is acceptable but it's definitely not suitable attire for a man in his 60s IMO  |
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Post by keefer on Sept 18, 2024 15:29:13 GMT 1
I don’t understand the hate for Bruce. He’s not the best manager out there, but he’s definitely not the worst. I reckon if we’d have ended up with him a second time (hypothetical) rather than with DM, we’d more likely than not still be in the Championship. Same here, don't blame him at all for what happened in 99/00 and he's gone on to have a very good career, now prepared to manage in the third tier when I dare say he doesn't need the cash so proves his love for the game. Needs to work on his dress sense though, looked like he was dressed for doing the gardening or putting the bins out on Saturday, seemed to be a Primark joggers and sweat shirt combo. I know the youth seem to think wearing joggers in public is acceptable but it's definitely not suitable attire for a man in his 60s IMO Mmmmm those elastic waistbands. I'm in my 70s and just what I need |
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Post by mosher on Sept 19, 2024 8:27:36 GMT 1
I don’t understand the hate for Bruce. He’s not the best manager out there, but he’s definitely not the worst. I reckon if we’d have ended up with him a second time (hypothetical) rather than with DM, we’d more likely than not still be in the Championship. and he's gone on to have a very good career, now prepared to manage in the third tier when I dare say he doesn't need the cash so proves his love for the game. Needs to work on his dress sense though, looked like he was dressed for doing the gardening or putting the bins out on Saturday, seemed to be a Primark joggers and sweat shirt combo. I know the youth seem to think wearing joggers in public is acceptable but it's definitely not suitable attire for a man in his 60s IMO I lay part of the blame for the sale of Stewy at his doorstep. It was announced with quite some hoohah that he'd been given a place on the board and had final veto on ALL transfers, but then said he had no control over Stewy's departure. Although like a few others I've mellowed to him recently. I'll still boo him though  |
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Post by kayeb222 on Sept 20, 2024 14:16:00 GMT 1
Same here, don't blame him at all for what happened in 99/00 and he's gone on to have a very good career, now prepared to manage in the third tier when I dare say he doesn't need the cash so proves his love for the game. Needs to work on his dress sense though, looked like he was dressed for doing the gardening or putting the bins out on Saturday, seemed to be a Primark joggers and sweat shirt combo. I know the youth seem to think wearing joggers in public is acceptable but it's definitely not suitable attire for a man in his 60s IMO I lay part of the blame for the sale of Stewy at his doorstep. It was announced with quite some hoohah that he'd been given a place on the board and had final veto on ALL transfers, but then said he had no control over Stewy's departure. Although like a few others I've mellowed to him recently. I'll still boo him though You wouldn't say "boo to a Bruce"!! Lol |
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Post by Niggled on Sept 20, 2024 14:34:39 GMT 1
It wasn't just that he played a part in selling our best player , the fact that he fucked off mid season for three weeks whilst our manager to commentate on man u across the globe makes me dislike him.
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