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Post by workshyfop on Oct 10, 2022 9:50:10 GMT 1
Wonder if they’ll go back in for Wagner or possibly CC?
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Post by galpharm2400 on Oct 10, 2022 9:52:56 GMT 1
The players will be looking forward to Roy Keane shouting at them???😉
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Post by King Neil on Oct 10, 2022 9:55:42 GMT 1
Carlos I reckon
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Post by workshyfop on Oct 10, 2022 10:00:03 GMT 1
The players will be looking forward to Roy Keane shouting at them???😉 I noticed he was at their game. The players will be wishing they’d put a bit more effort in if that happens. |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Oct 10, 2022 10:01:30 GMT 1
The players will be looking forward to Roy Keane shouting at them???😉 I noticed he was at their game. The players will be wishing they’d put a bit more effort in if that happens. WBA will 'require' a name.. |
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Post by colnevalleyblue on Oct 10, 2022 10:20:33 GMT 1
Been coming and I think that will probably be it for Steve Bruce and management now.
I know he's not popular in Huddersfield and I spent about 15 years strongly disliking him but I started to feel sorry for him during the treatment Newcastle fans gave him and ended up feeling quite liking him.
A style of person/ manager that is going out of fashion.
He's done well to last so long in the management game and been quite successful really, all be it struggled in his last couple of jobs.
WBA have been very underwhelming again this season.
Least he's been sacked in time to go to the T20 World Cup.
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Post by Orinoco on Oct 10, 2022 10:42:34 GMT 1
surprised it took so long!!.
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Oct 10, 2022 10:50:38 GMT 1
I noticed he was at their game. The players will be wishing they’d put a bit more effort in if that happens. WBA will 'require' a name.. Big club 🤓 |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Oct 10, 2022 11:11:50 GMT 1
WBA will 'require' a name.. Big club 🤓 "Sleeping Giant"..🍩 |
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Post by Oblong of Dreams on Oct 10, 2022 11:13:06 GMT 1
Wonder if they’ll go back in for Wagner or possibly CC? If frau Wagner didn't want to come back to Huddersfield, she deffo won't want to live in the black country! As for Bruce, I could see him back at Hull. Their fans quite like him and it's the last job he was any good at. |
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Post by Orinoco on Oct 10, 2022 11:16:19 GMT 1
hardly a sleeping giant!! |
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Post by waggers on Oct 10, 2022 11:18:37 GMT 1
Wonder if they’ll go back in for Wagner or possibly CC? If frau Wagner didn't want to come back to Huddersfield, she deffo won't want to live in the black country! As for Bruce, I could see him back at Hull. Their fans quite like him and it's the last job he was any good at. Is old Brucey going to pocket another disgracefully large pay off here? He does well with sackings this lad. |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Oct 10, 2022 11:29:27 GMT 1
hardly a sleeping giant!! Must be the experts think so.. Their plan to bounce in between the premier and the championship was always in danger of being shite.. It involves the absolute requirement to get promotion from a league where there is less and less a guarantee you can buy it.. |
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Post by araucaria on Oct 10, 2022 11:38:50 GMT 1
If frau Wagner didn't want to come back to Huddersfield, she deffo won't want to live in the black country! As for Bruce, I could see him back at Hull. Their fans quite like him and it's the last job he was any good at. Is old Brucey going to pocket another disgracefully large pay off here? He does well with sacking this lad. Surprisingly, perhaps, he's only been sacked by 4 of his 11 clubs, starting with us. Most of his moves have been of his own volition and, incredibly, Wigan paid £3m compensation, a record at the time, to Birmingham to give him a second spell at the DW. Someone wrote that, at Preston v WBA last week, he looked like a clueless old man. The only difference between that and Bruce in our dugout v Wimbledon at home just before his sacking in Sept/Oct 2000 is that he wasn't old back then. |
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Post by paullow1 on Oct 10, 2022 11:59:10 GMT 1
Long time coming, I can go back to not minding West Brom now, ha.
That will surely be it for him, although he may still have some 'fire in his belly', and someone will likely take a chance on him, despite him being finished for years.
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Post by Captainslapper on Oct 10, 2022 11:59:30 GMT 1
Is old Brucey going to pocket another disgracefully large pay off here? He does well with sacking this lad. Surprisingly, perhaps, he's only been sacked by 4 of his 11 clubs, starting with us. Most of his moves have been of his own volition and, incredibly, Wigan paid £3m compensation, a record at the time, to Birmingham to give him a second spell at the DW. Someone wrote that, at Preston v WBA last week, he looked like a clueless old man. The only difference between that and Bruce in our dugout v Wimbledon at home just before his sacking in Sept/Oct 2000 is that he wasn't old back then. Dont think it is that surprising really. hes had failures but think most of his career has been pretty successful. Think he's proved himself to be a good manager on more occasions than he's looked clueless. Thats the 11th different club he's managed, with two spells at Wigan amongst them. Almost Warnock-esque. |
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Post by Oblong of Dreams on Oct 10, 2022 12:02:10 GMT 1
Long time coming, I can go back to not minding West Brom now, ha. That will surely be it for him, although he may still have some 'fire in his belly', and someone will likely take a chance on him, despite him being finished for years. Hasn't he said "this'll be my last job" at the last three clubs he's been at? He's no Colin, no matter how hard he wishes he was... |
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Post by Captainslapper on Oct 10, 2022 12:03:11 GMT 1
Long time coming, I can go back to not minding West Brom now, ha. That will surely be it for him, although he may still have some 'fire in his belly', and someone will likely take a chance on him, despite him being finished for years. Didnt he do at least as well at Newcastle as the 'messiah' Benitez that you all love so much? Is the hatred because he was a former Mackem? |
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Post by waggers on Oct 10, 2022 12:09:22 GMT 1
Is old Brucey going to pocket another disgracefully large pay off here? He does well with sacking this lad. Surprisingly, perhaps, he's only been sacked by 4 of his 11 clubs, starting with us. Most of his moves have been of his own volition and, incredibly, Wigan paid £3m compensation, a record at the time, to Birmingham to give him a second spell at the DW. Someone wrote that, at Preston v WBA last week, he looked like a clueless old man. The only difference between that and Bruce in our dugout v Wimbledon at home just before his sacking in Sept/Oct 2000 is that he wasn't old back then. I was mainly referring to the huge one he got from Newcastle. |
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Post by paullow1 on Oct 10, 2022 12:14:09 GMT 1
The narrative will always be the deluded and ungrateful Geordies giving him a hard time, as seen above, especially when he's 'statistically as good as Rafa', and some of the grief he gets from Newcastle fans, that you'll no doubt see on Twitter and other social media, may seem irrational to away fans, but he'll certainly go down as my least favourite manager ever. Always the victim, lies / exaggerations, shifting the blame, lowering expectations, trademark bingo cliche's, subtly criticising fans. I wrote this on another forum, so not wasting another 30 minutes of my life, but he really has been finished for a good few years now. Sacked at Villa for winning 3 of his first 11 matches of 2018/19 Championship season, and in the bottom half, despite having Abraham, Grealish, McGinn, and Bolasie at his disposal. Dean Smith comes in a week later and they get the promoted that same season :lol: www.11v11.com/league-tables/league-championship/03-october-2018/Delays taking over at Sheff Wed so he can get watch some cricket, does OK there in his 18 matches there before leaving at the first opportunity for seemingly better things - a story of his managerial career. Takes over an improving Newcastle side who won 8 and drew 3 of their final 16 matches of the previous PL campaign, becoming hard to beat, creating an identity with a respected boss, finally a bit of togetherness, and then that's all thrown out of the window instantly. He spends over £60m that summer including ASM and Joelinton, and finishes 13th which was OK, if not meh, and a reasonably fair reflection on the season. The following season he adds Wilson, Fraser and 15m on Jamaal Lewis, so he's getting a fair bit of backing, certainly relatively in the Mike Ashley era, most Newcastle fans would say given to the wrong man, and that 2nd season was terrible. From the 5-2 defeat to Leeds on Dec 16th, Newcastle won 2, drew 6, and lost 11 of their 19 PL matches, a period which also included a first hurdle FA Cup exit, and a league cup defeat to 2nd tier Brentford who pretty much changed their entire team. They won 3 of their last 4 PL matches that season, including the final 2 against already relegated Sheff Utd and Fulham, to go from 17th on May 6th to 12th on the final day - papering over the crack if there ever was any, and this was a team back in the PL 4 years, and a bit more quality added to the squad in his 2 years www.11v11.com/league-tables/premier-league/06-may-2021/The following season, Newcastle go out of the League Cup at home to Burnley and get 3 points, and no wins, out of their first 8 games and these games included Southampton, Leeds, Watford, Wolves, Villa, West Ham, and even a home match to Nuno's Spurs isn't the same as it is now - yet literally 3 points, and well on the way to relegation. A team with no tactics, no plan, no identity, no inspiration, no hope. Just pick your best 11 players, ask them to give it a go, and see if we can 'nick a result'. Pathetic. www.11v11.com/league-tables/premier-league/17-october-2021/Takes over at West Brom a few months later in 5th place, after his 8 MILLION pay off, with the one aim 'to get the Albion out of this league'. Ends up finishing 10th after winning only 6 of his 17 matches. The following season, they win literally one of their 13 league matches, into the bottom 3, with both teams below having games in hand (his one aim may well be coming true, just not the way he planned...) and this is a team who had never finished worse than 6th in the second tier since 1999, 'had' I say, because Brucie already spoiled that the season before, and they've got the 5th highest wage bill in the league. He's been finished for ages - his last 38 league games, including his final days at Newcastle, reads 7W 15D 16L which is awful when 30 of them were at a club who should be at the top end of the table. I could honestly go on and on for hours about my sheer disdain and contempt for the man, and some of it may seem irrational to away fans, but when it's your club and you see and hear his droning shite on a daily basis, to me, it's totally understandable. I've said it before, many times actually, Newcastle have statistically had worse managers in the Premier League era, and other unsavoury characters, but, taking everything into account, Stephen Roger Bruce will go down as the worst of the lot for the majority of Newcastle fans, and that includes Pardew, Allardyce, Souness, and Joe F'ing Kinnear, ha. |
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Post by Captainslapper on Oct 10, 2022 12:35:15 GMT 1
Yeah so 13th and then 12th.
So amongst all those bad results he presumably won a fair few too. And sounds like he made some good signings.
Start of 18/19 Newcastle failed to win any of their first 10 games and were dumped out of LC by championship Forest.. were you all screaming for Benitez's head?
You also won 3 and drew 1 of your last 5 games to give that season a bit of a rosey tint it didnt merit. So its a bit unfair isn't it to just lay those late season successes on bruce and ignore it for Benitez isn't it?
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Post by benroberts on Oct 10, 2022 12:38:59 GMT 1
But apart from that you quite like the guy, right? The narrative will always be the deluded and ungrateful Geordies giving him a hard time, as seen above, especially when he's 'statistically as good as Rafa', and some of the grief he gets from Newcastle fans, that you'll no doubt see on Twitter and other social media, may seem irrational to away fans, but he'll certainly go down as my least favourite manager ever. Always the victim, lies / exaggerations, shifting the blame, lowering expectations, trademark bingo cliche's, subtly criticising fans. I wrote this on another forum, so not wasting another 30 minutes of my life, but he really has been finished for a good few years now. Sacked at Villa for winning 3 of his first 11 matches of 2018/19 Championship season, and in the bottom half, despite having Abraham, Grealish, McGinn, and Bolasie at his disposal. Dean Smith comes in a week later and they get the promoted that same season :lol: www.11v11.com/league-tables/league-championship/03-october-2018/Delays taking over at Sheff Wed so he can get watch some cricket, does OK there in his 18 matches there before leaving at the first opportunity for seemingly better things - a story of his managerial career. Takes over an improving Newcastle side who won 8 and drew 3 of their final 16 matches of the previous PL campaign, becoming hard to beat, creating an identity with a respected boss, finally a bit of togetherness, and then that's all thrown out of the window instantly. He spends over £60m that summer including ASM and Joelinton, and finishes 13th which was OK, if not meh, and a reasonably fair reflection on the season. The following season he adds Wilson, Fraser and 15m on Jamaal Lewis, so he's getting a fair bit of backing, certainly relatively in the Mike Ashley era, most Newcastle fans would say given to the wrong man, and that 2nd season was terrible. From the 5-2 defeat to Leeds on Dec 16th, Newcastle won 2, drew 6, and lost 11 of their 19 PL matches, a period which also included a first hurdle FA Cup exit, and a league cup defeat to 2nd tier Brentford who pretty much changed their entire team. They won 3 of their last 4 PL matches that season, including the final 2 against already relegated Sheff Utd and Fulham, to go from 17th on May 6th to 12th on the final day - papering over the crack if there ever was any, and this was a team back in the PL 4 years, and a bit more quality added to the squad in his 2 years www.11v11.com/league-tables/premier-league/06-may-2021/The following season, Newcastle go out of the League Cup at home to Burnley and get 3 points, and no wins, out of their first 8 games and these games included Southampton, Leeds, Watford, Wolves, Villa, West Ham, and even a home match to Nuno's Spurs isn't the same as it is now - yet literally 3 points, and well on the way to relegation. A team with no tactics, no plan, no identity, no inspiration, no hope. Just pick your best 11 players, ask them to give it a go, and see if we can 'nick a result'. Pathetic. www.11v11.com/league-tables/premier-league/17-october-2021/Takes over at West Brom a few months later in 5th place, after his 8 MILLION pay off, with the one aim 'to get the Albion out of this league'. Ends up finishing 10th after winning only 6 of his 17 matches. The following season, they win literally one of their 13 league matches, into the bottom 3, with both teams below having games in hand (his one aim may well be coming true, just not the way he planned...) and this is a team who had never finished worse than 6th in the second tier since 1999, 'had' I say, because Brucie already spoiled that the season before, and they've got the 5th highest wage bill in the league. He's been finished for ages - his last 38 league games, including his final days at Newcastle, reads 7W 15D 16L which is awful when 30 of them were at a club who should be at the top end of the table. I could honestly go on and on for hours about my sheer disdain and contempt for the man, and some of it may seem irrational to away fans, but when it's your club and you see and hear his droning shite on a daily basis, to me, it's totally understandable. I've said it before, many times actually, Newcastle have statistically had worse managers in the Premier League era, and other unsavoury characters, but, taking everything into account, Stephen Roger Bruce will go down as the worst of the lot for the majority of Newcastle fans, and that includes Pardew, Allardyce, Souness, and Joe F'ing Kinnear, ha. |
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Post by westislandterrier on Oct 10, 2022 12:41:04 GMT 1
surprised it took so long!!. -ell B -ruce’s A -way |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Oct 10, 2022 12:42:29 GMT 1
Paullow1.
If Bruce was a liar and a cheat, maybe he’ll fit in nicely with a new role in the boardroom at the Toon?
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Post by incognito on Oct 10, 2022 12:58:37 GMT 1
The narrative will always be the deluded and ungrateful Geordies giving him a hard time, as seen above, especially when he's 'statistically as good as Rafa', and some of the grief he gets from Newcastle fans, that you'll no doubt see on Twitter and other social media, may seem irrational to away fans, but he'll certainly go down as my least favourite manager ever. Always the victim, lies / exaggerations, shifting the blame, lowering expectations, trademark bingo cliche's, subtly criticising fans. I wrote this on another forum, so not wasting another 30 minutes of my life, but he really has been finished for a good few years now. Sacked at Villa for winning 3 of his first 11 matches of 2018/19 Championship season, and in the bottom half, despite having Abraham, Grealish, McGinn, and Bolasie at his disposal. Dean Smith comes in a week later and they get the promoted that same season :lol: www.11v11.com/league-tables/league-championship/03-october-2018/Delays taking over at Sheff Wed so he can get watch some cricket, does OK there in his 18 matches there before leaving at the first opportunity for seemingly better things - a story of his managerial career. Takes over an improving Newcastle side who won 8 and drew 3 of their final 16 matches of the previous PL campaign, becoming hard to beat, creating an identity with a respected boss, finally a bit of togetherness, and then that's all thrown out of the window instantly. He spends over £60m that summer including ASM and Joelinton, and finishes 13th which was OK, if not meh, and a reasonably fair reflection on the season. The following season he adds Wilson, Fraser and 15m on Jamaal Lewis, so he's getting a fair bit of backing, certainly relatively in the Mike Ashley era, most Newcastle fans would say given to the wrong man, and that 2nd season was terrible. From the 5-2 defeat to Leeds on Dec 16th, Newcastle won 2, drew 6, and lost 11 of their 19 PL matches, a period which also included a first hurdle FA Cup exit, and a league cup defeat to 2nd tier Brentford who pretty much changed their entire team. They won 3 of their last 4 PL matches that season, including the final 2 against already relegated Sheff Utd and Fulham, to go from 17th on May 6th to 12th on the final day - papering over the crack if there ever was any, and this was a team back in the PL 4 years, and a bit more quality added to the squad in his 2 years www.11v11.com/league-tables/premier-league/06-may-2021/The following season, Newcastle go out of the League Cup at home to Burnley and get 3 points, and no wins, out of their first 8 games and these games included Southampton, Leeds, Watford, Wolves, Villa, West Ham, and even a home match to Nuno's Spurs isn't the same as it is now - yet literally 3 points, and well on the way to relegation. A team with no tactics, no plan, no identity, no inspiration, no hope. Just pick your best 11 players, ask them to give it a go, and see if we can 'nick a result'. Pathetic. www.11v11.com/league-tables/premier-league/17-october-2021/Takes over at West Brom a few months later in 5th place, after his 8 MILLION pay off, with the one aim 'to get the Albion out of this league'. Ends up finishing 10th after winning only 6 of his 17 matches. The following season, they win literally one of their 13 league matches, into the bottom 3, with both teams below having games in hand (his one aim may well be coming true, just not the way he planned...) and this is a team who had never finished worse than 6th in the second tier since 1999, 'had' I say, because Brucie already spoiled that the season before, and they've got the 5th highest wage bill in the league. He's been finished for ages - his last 38 league games, including his final days at Newcastle, reads 7W 15D 16L which is awful when 30 of them were at a club who should be at the top end of the table. I could honestly go on and on for hours about my sheer disdain and contempt for the man, and some of it may seem irrational to away fans, but when it's your club and you see and hear his droning shite on a daily basis, to me, it's totally understandable. I've said it before, many times actually, Newcastle have statistically had worse managers in the Premier League era, and other unsavoury characters, but, taking everything into account, Stephen Roger Bruce will go down as the worst of the lot for the majority of Newcastle fans, and that includes Pardew, Allardyce, Souness, and Joe F'ing Kinnear, ha. So he did a poor job, and accepted a substantial pay off at the end (to which he was contractually entitled)? I'm still not really any closer to understanding the extremity of your "sheer distain and contempt for the man". Surely the fans of several of his other clubs have more of a case to feel personally slighted by his preparedness to ditch them as soon as a better job came along. I think the disrespect he showed our club by fucking off to the World Club Championship on a pundit gig in the middle of our season was considerably more heinous than anything he ever did at NUFC. |
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Post by Orinoco on Oct 10, 2022 12:59:25 GMT 1
surprised it took so long!!. -ell B -ruce’s A -way W-ay B-elow A-verage |
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Post by rockwall on Oct 10, 2022 13:01:47 GMT 1
Can see him and Alex taking their families to live in the middle east and having a crack over there.
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Post by Clark W Griswald (CAS) on Oct 10, 2022 13:02:51 GMT 1
Paullow1. If Bruce was a liar and a cheat, maybe he’ll fit in nicely with a new role in the boardroom at the Toon? Zero hour contracts = disgusting Public flogging = acceptable. Those fans up there are so obsessed they'll turn a blind eye to anything. As for "wor" Amanda, she's just a poor man's Delia |
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Post by paullow1 on Oct 10, 2022 13:04:39 GMT 1
Yeah so 13th and then 12th. So amongst all those bad results he presumably won a fair few too. And sounds like he made some good signings. Start of 18/19 Newcastle failed to win any of their first 10 games and were dumped out of LC by championship Forest.. were you all screaming for Benitez's head? You also won 3 and drew 1 of your last 5 games to give that season a bit of a rosey tint it didnt merit. So its a bit unfair isn't it to just lay those late season successes on bruce and ignore it for Benitez isn't it? It was an awful start by Rafa that season, and no and the vast majority of fans didn't call for his head, not one person I know personally, and yes, his reputation and CV will have helped, but this was a man who was managing Real Madrid a couple of months before joining, not plucked from 2nd tier Sheff Wed. There was a feeling that he was too good for where we were, we were grateful to have him, a last glimpse of 'big club' relevancy, and a degree of hope, whereas Bruce represented mediocrity and a typical symbol of the Ashley era. On paper, you can't expect people to be happy going from Benitez to Bruce, surely that's understandable, so it always was going to be a tough job. Benitez's football wasn't the most exciting at times but you could at least see what he was trying to do, which wasn't the case with Bruce who did have a lot more money and better squad including players like Joelinton, Wilson, ASM, Schaar, Willock, Almiron etc. who all still feature predominantly today, well for now anyway, yet we were undoubtedly declining and heading in one direction. There's not really much point continuing because we'll never agree, and yes, there probably was a bit of selectivity there, but one thing I will say, and it goes for all football fans, not just Newcastle, and it's certainly not directed at you personally, but those that watch their team every match, chat about it at work, read and hear about everything, a huge part of their daily lives, will tend to know more about the ongoings of their own football club more than some outsiders simply seeing a few stats. |
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