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Post by leroy212 on Mar 11, 2023 22:50:37 GMT 1
Americans and Dutch both want us in League one Thought the Americans only wanted us if we stayed up |
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Post by rugbyterrier on Mar 11, 2023 23:41:04 GMT 1
Not another megalomaniac dwarf.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2023 0:00:00 GMT 1
Neither group seems to have much dough, so I hope we’re all prepared for a long stint of league 1 mediocrity
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Post by bells ringing :) on Mar 12, 2023 0:01:44 GMT 1
Neither group seems to have much dough, so I hope we’re all prepared for a long stint of league 1 mediocrity u r joking the americans have good amounts of dough..... |
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Post by Porrohman on Mar 12, 2023 0:48:34 GMT 1
Neither group seems to have much dough, so I hope we’re all prepared for a long stint of league 1 mediocrity u r joking the americans have good amounts of dough..... Look at the size of most Americans, they're all interested in dough |
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Post by terrier17 on Mar 12, 2023 9:38:03 GMT 1
Any idea on how much either party are worth?
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Post by Maynardblue on Mar 12, 2023 9:45:47 GMT 1
Any idea on how much either party are worth? The US are backed by a Billionaire family with ambitious plans for the club The Dutch group seem to follow a more sustainable model with Alkmaar making €125m profit on transfers in the last 8 years Have a guess which one DH will choose. |
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Post by portugalterrier on Mar 12, 2023 9:48:39 GMT 1
Any idea on how much either party are worth? The US are backed by a Billionaire family with ambitious plans for the club The Dutch group seem to follow a more sustainable model with Alkmaar making €125m profit on transfers in the last 8 years Have a guess which one DH will choose. My info is that the Americans have gone a bit lukewarm atm. |
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Post by dalesterrier on Mar 12, 2023 9:53:46 GMT 1
The US are backed by a Billionaire family with ambitious plans for the club The Dutch group seem to follow a more sustainable model with Alkmaar making €125m profit on transfers in the last 8 years Have a guess which one DH will choose. My info is that the Americans have gone a bit lukewarm atm. Assuming the Dutch group have more money behind them because on the face of it (and there's limited info available) Neelissen doesn't appear to have the funds on his own. That said he owns a chain of shoe shops in Holland so I could be totally wrong! |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Mar 12, 2023 9:54:46 GMT 1
The US are backed by a Billionaire family with ambitious plans for the club The Dutch group seem to follow a more sustainable model with Alkmaar making €125m profit on transfers in the last 8 years Have a guess which one DH will choose. My info is that the Americans have gone a bit lukewarm atm. Perhaps linked to the SVB crisis and knock on effect to other banks |
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Post by iangreaves on Mar 12, 2023 9:55:54 GMT 1
My info is that the Americans have gone a bit lukewarm atm. Assuming the Dutch group have more money behind them because on the face of it (and there's limited info available) Neelissen doesn't appear to have the funds on his own. That said he owns a chain of shoe shops in Holland so I could be totally wrong! Is he eyeing up Walkley’s Clogs? |
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Post by dalesterrier on Mar 12, 2023 9:55:59 GMT 1
Also noticed Billy Beane invested in AZ so maybe this is a moneyball approach
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Post by rockwall on Mar 12, 2023 9:59:15 GMT 1
Financial aspect aren't my strong point.
Would it be better for the potential new owners to buy us in administration than not?
If it is, we should go into admin now, take the points hit and reshape the club for next season.
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Post by pterrier on Mar 12, 2023 10:00:09 GMT 1
Any idea on how much either party are worth? The US are backed by a Billionaire family with ambitious plans for the club The Dutch group seem to follow a more sustainable model with Alkmaar making €125m profit on transfers in the last 8 years Have a guess which one DH will choose. The one that pays him more unfortunately. I also can’t shake a cynical hunch that he won’t want any owner to come in after who will splash the cash and make him look tight |
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Post by Big Ern on Mar 12, 2023 10:04:21 GMT 1
It doesn't matter how much money those people have that are interested in us, the club will be sold to those who will pay Dean the most.
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Post by dalesterrier on Mar 12, 2023 10:05:01 GMT 1
That said AZ are regularly in European competition and aren't one of the Dutch giants such as Ajax, feyenoord or PSV. So there is clearly ambition there.
Does he have to leave AZ if he's part of buying us?
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Post by Melc on Mar 12, 2023 10:09:10 GMT 1
That said AZ are regularly in European competition and aren't one of the Dutch giants such as Ajax, feyenoord or PSV. So there is clearly ambition there. Does he have to leave AZ if he's part of buying us? PH was ambitious and look how that panned out! |
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Post by dalesterrier on Mar 12, 2023 10:10:49 GMT 1
But at least this guy has a record of achievement to fall back on!
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Post by Mastercracker on Mar 12, 2023 10:26:10 GMT 1
The US are backed by a Billionaire family with ambitious plans for the club The Dutch group seem to follow a more sustainable model with Alkmaar making €125m profit on transfers in the last 8 years Have a guess which one DH will choose. The one that pays him more unfortunately. I also can’t shake a cynical hunch that he won’t want any owner to come in after who will splash the cash and make him look tight He’ll be dining out for years as ‘the only owner to take them to the premier league’ and would prefer to keep it that way imo. |
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Post by ram on Mar 12, 2023 10:39:19 GMT 1
u r joking the americans have good amounts of dough..... Look at the size of most Americans, they're all interested in dough That is why the GI,s were called "The Doughboys" |
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Post by portugalterrier on Mar 12, 2023 10:49:03 GMT 1
My understanding is the purchase consideration and debt repayment is minimal, just for the new owner to be in a position to keep funding the club, show commitment to the club and hopefully get the club moving forward.
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Post by ben1987 on Mar 12, 2023 10:53:42 GMT 1
Dean has told me the purchase consideration and debt repayment is minimal, just for the new owner to be in a position to keep funding the club, show commitment to the club and hopefully get the club moving forward. I’ve corrected your post for you. |
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Post by Porrohman on Mar 12, 2023 10:57:41 GMT 1
The US are backed by a Billionaire family with ambitious plans for the club The Dutch group seem to follow a more sustainable model with Alkmaar making €125m profit on transfers in the last 8 years Have a guess which one DH will choose. My info is that the Americans have gone a bit lukewarm atm. No surprise if they were the ones at the Coventry game |
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Post by portugalterrier on Mar 12, 2023 10:59:29 GMT 1
Dean has told me the purchase consideration and debt repayment is minimal, just for the new owner to be in a position to keep funding the club, show commitment to the club and hopefully get the club moving forward. I’ve corrected your post for you. Grow up, my info comes from one of the interested parties, if you want to continue being a knob fair enough. |
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Post by portugalterrier on Mar 12, 2023 10:59:58 GMT 1
My info is that the Americans have gone a bit lukewarm atm. No surprise if they were the ones at the Coventry game They were. |
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Post by dewsburyborn on Mar 12, 2023 11:09:26 GMT 1
No surprise if they were the ones at the Coventry game They were. but the bottom line is that the team that played vs Coventry have little to do with it - they'll all be long gone come end of this season |
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Post by portugalterrier on Mar 12, 2023 11:14:11 GMT 1
but the bottom line is that the team that played vs Coventry have little to do with it - they'll all be long gone come end of this season Americans seem to have a misunderstanding understanding the nuances of “ supporting” when results don’t quite match their expectations.I am waiting information on their current position. |
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Post by jjamez on Mar 12, 2023 11:23:26 GMT 1
If we go into administration, won't dean have no say in which group buys the club? Won't it be the administrators who decide which party is the preferred bidder?
For me, either or, if the US party have big ideas for the club then great. The Alkmaar group have shown they know what they are doing which is also great.
Personally, it would be great to be backed by some financially powerful people, but it doesn't guarantee success. My issues with the Americans would be if the big ideas are just that, words said that they ultimately are unable to do for one reason or another. But that is a common thing for town fans ain't it. The other thing would be how much they know about football, some American owners come over and are decent, others, not so much so.
As for the Alkmaar group, they obviously understand football, well continental football, but still. They will have decent links, they have a mantra that we apparently have, but with a better grasp of it and evidence of it working.
I'm not sure which one I'd be most inclined to go with, maybe the Alkmaar one. Ideally you get them to merge and work together, something we've not been able to achieve with our two fans at the helm
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Post by St Dogs Terrier on Mar 12, 2023 11:45:32 GMT 1
Hope this Rene Neelissen gets the gig if only for the amount of mipssellings of his name on here  |
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Post by ben1987 on Mar 12, 2023 12:24:56 GMT 1
If we go into administration, won't dean have no say in which group buys the club? Won't it be the administrators who decide which party is the preferred bidder? For me, either or, if the US party have big ideas for the club then great. The Alkmaar group have shown they know what they are doing which is also great. Personally, it would be great to be backed by some financially powerful people, but it doesn't guarantee success. My issues with the Americans would be if the big ideas are just that, words said that they ultimately are unable to do for one reason or another. But that is a common thing for town fans ain't it. The other thing would be how much they know about football, some American owners come over and are decent, others, not so much so. As for the Alkmaar group, they obviously understand football, well continental football, but still. They will have decent links, they have a mantra that we apparently have, but with a better grasp of it and evidence of it working. I'm not sure which one I'd be most inclined to go with, maybe the Alkmaar one. Ideally you get them to merge and work together, something we've not been able to achieve with our two fans at the helm Given our two previous owners in recent times, I’m skeptical and wary of anybody who comes in. I trust nobody. What concerns me with the Az mob is ultimately we would be in a pyramid scheme and I doubt we’d be at the top of it. |
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