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Post by alexdire on Mar 14, 2023 22:10:56 GMT 1
If the club goes into admin, surely the decision of who buys the club is no longer Hoyles to make anyways ? Don’t these pre pack administrations work by agreeing a buyer before they start the procedure, so they continue to pay and keep all the staff? Pre pack administration. www.begbies-traynorgroup.com/pre-pack-administration |
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Post by St Dogs Terrier on Mar 14, 2023 22:13:00 GMT 1
My view and has been for some time is, that to sell, Dean will need to write off a lot off his debt. In fact, a large part probably? If the administration rumours are to be believed and it is a pre pack 35p (as someone else has mentioned) turnaround then that feels like around two thirds written off or £20/30m (?), I don’t have a scoobies really ? Even a straight sale would need some significant write off.
I should say at this point that I am not ITK and have no contacts anywhere close to the club. This is purely IMHO.
What I do know, having worked and lived in Holland in the past is that the Dutch (as a generalisation) do not like to spend money. A Scots mate of mine once said he thought a Yorkshire man was like a Scot with the generosity squeezed out. Take it down some more notches and you’ve got the Dutch. In other words they don’t like to spend money when they don’t have to. This, in my view has two impacts:
Should they gain control what will be spent to improve us? Perhaps for another debate on a different thread, should it come about.
More urgently, they will not want to pay more for us than they absolutely have to – means they will not want to leverage too much debt in the process. Also, I don’t believe they will share. I think both Hoyle and Hodgkinson would be gone
Clearly the games afoot with brinkman ship pretty evident at the moment. Hopefully will all come out in the next few days.
As said above this is just my view and speculation on my part. If it’s not your thing please keep scrolling
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Post by ben1987 on Mar 14, 2023 22:14:22 GMT 1
If Hoyle is still loitering about with a percentage after this sale I’m completely giving up on the club. 👀 |
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Post by Sio on Mar 14, 2023 22:16:42 GMT 1
If Hoyle is still loitering about with a percentage after this sale I’m completely giving up on the club. I'd seriously struggle to come back after this season if that happens. Chance for a clean break but end up with another PH scenario with someone leeching off us behind the scenes AGAIN. Think I'd be done for the foreseeable. |
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Post by bells ringing :) on Mar 14, 2023 22:16:59 GMT 1
If Hoyle is still loitering about with a percentage after this sale I’m completely giving up on the club. 👀 What you hinting at Ben? |
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Post by Dan on Mar 14, 2023 22:25:23 GMT 1
Can we update the poll to include 'not so rich Dutch bloke' pls?
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Post by htfcterry on Mar 14, 2023 22:25:45 GMT 1
I’m hinting that I’m extremely concerned about the future of our football club. I do not want to be owned by the Az mob. I don’t like any of the noises I’m hearing, I want Hoyle gone more than ever. If he takes this club into administration the very little respect I have left for hoyle. The Americans are the perfect fit for us, I do not want Hoyle anywhere near this football club. Fans need to stand up and be heard now. Hoyle needs to know. If he is still around after a ‘sale’ - then it’s time to be heard. His ego can’t get in the way of this sale FFS |
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Mar 14, 2023 22:26:01 GMT 1
If Hoyle is still loitering about with a percentage after this sale I’m completely giving up on the club. No chance surely. Fans have well and truly turned on him. He has escaped most of the abuse now but if he retains a stake after this he won't be able to set foot back at Town again. |
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Post by Dan on Mar 14, 2023 22:29:25 GMT 1
I’m hinting that I’m extremely concerned about the future of our football club. I do not want to be owned by the Az mob. I don’t like any of the noises I’m hearing, I want Hoyle gone more than ever. If he takes this club into administration the very little respect I have left for hoyle. The Americans are the perfect fit for us, I do not want Hoyle anywhere near this football club. Fans need to stand up and be heard now. Hoyle needs to know. Is it not too late? Is the Thursday announcement stuff true? |
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Post by Mastercracker on Mar 14, 2023 22:30:20 GMT 1
No chance surely. Fans have well and truly turned on him. He has escaped most of the abuse now but if he retains a stake after this he won't be able to set foot back at Town again. You’re underestimating the size of ego. |
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Post by bells ringing :) on Mar 14, 2023 22:30:42 GMT 1
If we go into admin, then surely its not hoyles choice who the club gets sold to ?
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Post by ben1987 on Mar 14, 2023 22:31:46 GMT 1
Is it not too late? Is the Thursday announcement stuff true? Honestly, I don’t know, so many conflicting stories. If I was betting on it, I’d say yes. |
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Post by space hardware on Mar 14, 2023 22:34:35 GMT 1
No chance surely. Fans have well and truly turned on him. He has escaped most of the abuse now but if he retains a stake after this he won't be able to set foot back at Town again. Plenty of arselickers still around who love the guy, despite the evidence mounting up. |
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Post by kjf on Mar 14, 2023 22:36:41 GMT 1
We've been having talks with the Americans past few days
Anything could happen if we go into admin
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Post by leroy212 on Mar 14, 2023 22:37:19 GMT 1
Is it not too late? Is the Thursday announcement stuff true? Honestly, I don’t know, so many conflicting stories. If I was betting on it, I’d say yes. If dean is fed up as he says, why would he want to still own apart of the club. Even if his ego is that big, he must realise if he retained a part after the sale this situation could happen again |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Mar 14, 2023 22:37:32 GMT 1
Can we update the poll to include 'not so rich Dutch bloke' pls? We’ve all heard the phrase ‘shall we go Dutch’… |
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Post by leroy212 on Mar 14, 2023 22:38:02 GMT 1
We've been having talks with the Americans past few days Anything could happen if we go into admin If you had to bet, would you edge towards Dutch or American |
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Post by bells ringing :) on Mar 14, 2023 22:38:44 GMT 1
Honestly, I don’t know, so many conflicting stories. If I was betting on it, I’d say yes. If dean is fed up as he says, why would he want to still own apart of the club. Even if his ego is that big, he must realise if he retained a part after the sale this situation could happen again Which makes you think Hoyle is thick as shit , as with the Americans who are worth billions. He could ride off into the sunset, but doesn't want to but for what reason? |
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Post by leroy212 on Mar 14, 2023 22:40:41 GMT 1
If dean is fed up as he says, why would he want to still own apart of the club. Even if his ego is that big, he must realise if he retained a part after the sale this situation could happen again Which makes you think Hoyle is thick as shit , as with the Americans who are worth billions. He could ride off into the sunset, but doesn't want to but for what reason? I'd say it's because he's hoping he can be the saviour if it goes wrong again. But I think he's burning bridges with most of the fans now |
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Post by bells ringing :) on Mar 14, 2023 22:42:13 GMT 1
Which makes you think Hoyle is thick as shit , as with the Americans who are worth billions. He could ride off into the sunset, but doesn't want to but for what reason? I'd say it's because he's hoping he can be the saviour if it goes wrong again. But I think he's burning bridges with most of the fans now With the Americans there would be no need for him, to be the saviour they have hung around for a long time for a reason. |
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Post by townarentbest on Mar 14, 2023 22:42:57 GMT 1
We've had a number of players who have had Dutch cap's that were a bit of a let down and turned into baby's the way they handled their exit. |
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Post by townarentbest on Mar 14, 2023 22:44:31 GMT 1
If the club goes into admin, surely the decision of who buys the club is no longer Hoyles to make anyways ? He's the major creditor of the club, he can agree a pre-packaged deal. |
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Post by bells ringing :) on Mar 14, 2023 22:46:39 GMT 1
We've had a number of players who have had Dutch cap's that were a bit of a let down and turned into baby's the way they handled their exit. Wasn't that Danish? |
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Post by townarentbest on Mar 14, 2023 22:53:06 GMT 1
We've had a number of players who have had Dutch cap's that were a bit of a let down and turned into baby's the way they handled their exit. Wasn't that Danish? That would make no sense as a pun 🤷♂️ |
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Post by boooothy on Mar 14, 2023 23:02:18 GMT 1
Just to clarify: We defo want Hoyle out, Potless was an embarrassment due to his wealth, we didn’t like Davy cause he didn’t support Town, Rubery was a twat and nearly put us out if business, Taylor was a pauper as well as Longbottom or whatever he was called.
We don’t want Dutch investors cause they won’t spend money. So what we are actually expecting is a Billionaire to think Huddersfield would be a nice place to come occasionally on their private jet and spunk millions expecting no return other than enjoyment.
I’m surprised no one realised this in the last 125 years and it’s taken till now to allow such a man to take over.
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Post by pterrier on Mar 14, 2023 23:07:31 GMT 1
Just to clarify: We defo want Hoyle out, Potless was an embarrassment due to his wealth, we didn’t like Davy cause he didn’t support Town, Rubery was a twat and nearly put us out if business, Taylor was a pauper as well as Longbottom or whatever he was called. We don’t want Dutch investors cause they won’t spend money. So what we are actually expecting is a Billionaire to think Huddersfield would be a nice place to come occasionally on their private jet and spunk millions expecting no return other than enjoyment. I’m surprised no one realised this in the last 125 years and it’s taken till now to allow such a man to take over. I trust the viewpoint of well informed posters like Maynard who has previously stated that the Americans were a better choice but for some reason Dean has thrown his lot in with the Dutch. If Maynard implies it’s the wrong choice, that says a lot. |
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Post by terrier17 on Mar 14, 2023 23:15:16 GMT 1
Let’s all hope there is still a chance the Americans are intent with their interest. We could quite easily end up being a ‘Charlton’ in league one if not worse without having owners with some ambition.
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Post by boooothy on Mar 14, 2023 23:15:28 GMT 1
Just to clarify: We defo want Hoyle out, Potless was an embarrassment due to his wealth, we didn’t like Davy cause he didn’t support Town, Rubery was a twat and nearly put us out if business, Taylor was a pauper as well as Longbottom or whatever he was called. We don’t want Dutch investors cause they won’t spend money. So what we are actually expecting is a Billionaire to think Huddersfield would be a nice place to come occasionally on their private jet and spunk millions expecting no return other than enjoyment. I’m surprised no one realised this in the last 125 years and it’s taken till now to allow such a man to take over. I trust the viewpoint of well informed posters like Maynard who has previously stated that the Americans were a better choice but for some reason Dean has thrown his lot in with the Dutch. If Maynard implies it’s the wrong choice, that says a lot. Some would disagree with Hoyle if he said water was wet. |
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Post by pterrier on Mar 14, 2023 23:17:57 GMT 1
I trust the viewpoint of well informed posters like Maynard who has previously stated that the Americans were a better choice but for some reason Dean has thrown his lot in with the Dutch. If Maynard implies it’s the wrong choice, that says a lot. Some would disagree with Hoyle if he said water was wet. I trust Maynard over Dean, that’s for sure. Deans actions over the last four seasons have been deplorable. |
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Post by crux on Mar 14, 2023 23:20:00 GMT 1
Which makes you think Hoyle is thick as shit , as with the Americans who are worth billions. He could ride off into the sunset, but doesn't want to but for what reason? I'd say it's because he's hoping he can be the saviour if it goes wrong again. But I think he's burning bridges with most of the fans now I think he's blown up all the bridges ever made and then pulverised any remaining pieces! |
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