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Post by midge on Mar 20, 2023 11:07:35 GMT 1
Just chatting to my Wednesday supporting business partner and it just reminded me that we need to br careful what we wish for.
Chansiri has put over £200m onto that club over 6/7 years and not only have they had several failed Prem attempts, they are currently in the division below where they were when he bought them.
Just saying🤷🏼
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Mar 20, 2023 11:10:37 GMT 1
Just chatting to my Wednesday supporting business partner and it just reminded me that we need to br careful what we wish for. Chansiri has put over £200m onto that club over 6/7 years and not only have they had several failed Prem attempts, they are currently in the division below where they were when he bought them. Just saying🤷🏼 You do wonder if their owner is simply hedging his bets on them eventually reaching the PL and then aiming to claw back that via a sale, or them becoming ‘sustainable’ in the PL. I’m not sure where I put the multiple 😂😂😂😂😂 in the last part of that sentence? |
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Post by kennyk2 on Mar 20, 2023 11:17:06 GMT 1
Just chatting to my Wednesday supporting business partner and it just reminded me that we need to br careful what we wish for. Chansiri has put over £200m onto that club over 6/7 years and not only have they had several failed Prem attempts, they are currently in the division below where they were when he bought them. Just saying🤷🏼 Also, as I mentioned before, didn't the Brighton owner custodian spend nearly £450 million getting to the PL? That is DH's total worth. |
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Post by ruggedivy on Mar 20, 2023 11:20:52 GMT 1
Just chatting to my Wednesday supporting business partner and it just reminded me that we need to br careful what we wish for. Chansiri has put over £200m onto that club over 6/7 years and not only have they had several failed Prem attempts, they are currently in the division below where they were when he bought them. Just saying🤷🏼 It's a great point. Plenty of owners across football leagues with vast wealth but that doesn't often correlate with on the pitch success. I'd take someone with some real football business knowledge, great industry connections and a plan than some wealthy individual/s who would be starting from scratch. |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Mar 20, 2023 11:24:57 GMT 1
Just chatting to my Wednesday supporting business partner and it just reminded me that we need to br careful what we wish for. Chansiri has put over £200m onto that club over 6/7 years and not only have they had several failed Prem attempts, they are currently in the division below where they were when he bought them. Just saying🤷🏼 Also, as I mentioned before, didn't the Brighton owner custodian spend nearly £450 million getting to the PL? That is DH's total worth. That's probably including their time in the premier league and building a new stadium/training facility. He'd spent £250m before they got to the premier league. www.theguardian.com/football/2017/apr/18/brighton-promotion-premier-league-spending-owner-tony-bloom |
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Post by Sio on Mar 20, 2023 11:30:26 GMT 1
Just chatting to my Wednesday supporting business partner and it just reminded me that we need to br careful what we wish for. Chansiri has put over £200m onto that club over 6/7 years and not only have they had several failed Prem attempts, they are currently in the division below where they were when he bought them. Just saying🤷🏼 I don't know the ins and outs of Wednesday's financial situation - maybe they're in huge debt - but how much different is our scenario? Limited assets, awful playing squad, no long-term manager, failing backroom staff, probably League One, etc... One thing they do have going for them is that they're on the up again. Can't imagine we'll bounce back at the rate they have. |
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Post by Captainslapper on Mar 20, 2023 11:33:05 GMT 1
Just chatting to my Wednesday supporting business partner and it just reminded me that we need to br careful what we wish for. Chansiri has put over £200m onto that club over 6/7 years and not only have they had several failed Prem attempts, they are currently in the division below where they were when he bought them. Just saying🤷🏼 believe he also charges them some pretty eye-watering amounts for their season cards. |
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Post by Teddington Ted on Mar 20, 2023 11:42:04 GMT 1
I’m gonna miss threads like this.
As Yorkshiremen, there’s only 2 things we really hate:
1 - the way things are
2 - change
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Post by ram on Mar 20, 2023 11:44:50 GMT 1
For the life of me, I cannot see the Dutch improving the land surrounding the Stadium {HD1 style}as previously intimated {The American plan}  |
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Post by ritchie on Mar 20, 2023 12:05:38 GMT 1
Head says dutch
Heart says our fans deserve the excitement of a cash injection.
I'm leaning towards head. The clubs such a mess and we dont need another circus. The dutch might not be as exciting but I think they will be safer hands who will create a succesful football structure.
When that's in place i'd feel more comfortable selling the club to someone to take us to the next level.
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Post by space hardware on Mar 20, 2023 12:11:50 GMT 1
Just chatting to my Wednesday supporting business partner and it just reminded me that we need to br careful what we wish for. Chansiri has put over £200m onto that club over 6/7 years and not only have they had several failed Prem attempts, they are currently in the division below where they were when he bought them. Just saying🤷🏼 believe he also charges them some pretty eye-watering amounts for their season cards. Their earliest "early bird" prices for this season were: AdultsKop £365 North Stand £445 Grandstand £445 South Stand £495 U25sKop £285 North Stand £350 Grandstand £350 South Stand £400 U17sKop £150 North Stand £150 Grandstand £75 South Stand £150 U11sKop £75 North Stand £75 Grandstand £23 South Stand £75 Concessions (Over 65s, 17-20 yr olds, Armed Forces, full time students, disabled) Kop £205 North Stand £250 Grandstand £250 South Stand £280 |
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Post by midge on Mar 20, 2023 12:12:05 GMT 1
Just chatting to my Wednesday supporting business partner and it just reminded me that we need to br careful what we wish for. Chansiri has put over £200m onto that club over 6/7 years and not only have they had several failed Prem attempts, they are currently in the division below where they were when he bought them. Just saying🤷🏼 I don't know the ins and outs of Wednesday's financial situation - maybe they're in huge debt - but how much different is our scenario? Limited assets, awful playing squad, no long-term manager, failing backroom staff, probably League One, etc... One thing they do have going for them is that they're on the up again. Can't imagine we'll bounce back at the rate they have. I guess that the immediate difference is that despite chucking a load of money at it (transfer fees and particularly wages) they failed to achieve their objective of promotion to the Premier League, whereas we did achieve this on a much lower budget. A lot has happened since obviously(for both clubs) but still keep seeing the 'Americans is best bid cos they are billionaires' argument which brings to the fore the money v a good plan debate going forward! |
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Post by kennyk2 on Mar 20, 2023 12:20:22 GMT 1
I don't know the ins and outs of Wednesday's financial situation - maybe they're in huge debt - but how much different is our scenario? Limited assets, awful playing squad, no long-term manager, failing backroom staff, probably League One, etc... One thing they do have going for them is that they're on the up again. Can't imagine we'll bounce back at the rate they have. I guess that the immediate difference is that despite chucking a load of money at it (transfer fees and particularly wages) they failed to achieve their objective of promotion to the Premier League, whereas we did achieve this on a much lower budget. A lot has happened since obviously(for both clubs) but still keep seeing the 'Americans is best bid cos they are billionaires' argument which brings to the fore the money v a good plan debate going forward! I think that there is a red herring here about US billions. The club can only lose a finite amount each year and the owner custodian can only put so much in to address losses. How much was Ellis Short worth at Sunderland? A billion? That didn't work out too well. It all depends how money is invested in the club, how much the new people are willing to invest/lose and what the plan is to make Town successful. |
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Post by midge on Mar 20, 2023 12:30:56 GMT 1
I guess that the immediate difference is that despite chucking a load of money at it (transfer fees and particularly wages) they failed to achieve their objective of promotion to the Premier League, whereas we did achieve this on a much lower budget. A lot has happened since obviously(for both clubs) but still keep seeing the 'Americans is best bid cos they are billionaires' argument which brings to the fore the money v a good plan debate going forward! I think that there is a red herring here about US billions. The club can only lose a finite amount each year and the owner custodian can only put so much in to address losses. How much was Ellis Short worth at Sunderland? A billion? That didn't work out too well. It all depends how money is invested in the club, how much the new people are willing to invest/lose and what the plan is to make Town successful. Exactly! As well as the the argument that chucking money at it doesn't always work, we don't even know if they are willing to spend or how much? On the reverse of this people also seem to have formed the opinion that 'sustainable' = 'cheap' when in truth we know very little about either bid! |
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Post by royrace on Mar 20, 2023 12:39:16 GMT 1
Just chatting to my Wednesday supporting business partner and it just reminded me that we need to br careful what we wish for. Chansiri has put over £200m onto that club over 6/7 years and not only have they had several failed Prem attempts, they are currently in the division below where they were when he bought them. Just saying🤷🏼 I don't know the ins and outs of Wednesday's financial situation - maybe they're in huge debt - but how much different is our scenario? Limited assets, awful playing squad, no long-term manager, failing backroom staff, probably League One, etc... One thing they do have going for them is that they're on the up again. Can't imagine we'll bounce back at the rate they have. To be fair they've had a good crack at it, let down by some poor footballing decisions no doubt. No guarantees are there, seem to have kept a good squad for L1 and will be back in the champ next season. Probably have a better squad than Town right now, I'd take Bannan all day long. There was no fire sale as far as I'm aware, we only got Lees because he was out of contract. |
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Post by royrace on Mar 20, 2023 12:45:50 GMT 1
I don't know the ins and outs of Wednesday's financial situation - maybe they're in huge debt - but how much different is our scenario? Limited assets, awful playing squad, no long-term manager, failing backroom staff, probably League One, etc... One thing they do have going for them is that they're on the up again. Can't imagine we'll bounce back at the rate they have. I guess that the immediate difference is that despite chucking a load of money at it (transfer fees and particularly wages) they failed to achieve their objective of promotion to the Premier League, whereas we did achieve this on a much lower budget. A lot has happened since obviously(for both clubs) but still keep seeing the 'Americans is best bid cos they are billionaires' argument which brings to the fore the money v a good plan debate going forward! I think the first priority for any wealthy owner should be bringing in the best DoF or whatever you want to call it that money can buy and focus on recruitment (coach/manager included) before wasting tens of thousands a week on average players on inflated salaries. Plenty of championship players purchased for crazy fees on crazy long term deals, that's what kills clubs. Bristol City another one that have spent pretty big for years and achieved precisely FA. |
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Post by htfc1908 on Mar 20, 2023 12:49:14 GMT 1
It's the hope that kills you. Just let go I'm in a state of flux, I can't stand Americans but they're supposed to be the ones that are loaded. I quite like the Dutch but, apparently, we'd never get back out of League 1 if they get it 🤯🤯🤯 I'm not keen on Yanks and I've gone off the Dutch after the Verstappen shenanigans in F1 anyone else interested?  |
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Post by prepare on Mar 20, 2023 12:58:19 GMT 1
Head says dutch Heart says our fans deserve the excitement of a cash injection. I'm leaning towards head. The clubs such a mess and we dont need another circus. The dutch might not be as exciting but I think they will be safer hands who will create a succesful football structure. When that's in place i'd feel more comfortable selling the club to someone to take us to the next level. we certainly need stability that’s for sure but even that won’t be enough for some |
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Post by jqhtfc on Mar 20, 2023 13:05:32 GMT 1
Head says dutch Heart says our fans deserve the excitement of a cash injection. I'm leaning towards head. The clubs such a mess and we dont need another circus. The dutch might not be as exciting but I think they will be safer hands who will create a succesful football structure. When that's in place i'd feel more comfortable selling the club to someone to take us to the next level. we certainly need stability that’s for sure but even that won’t be enough for some That all depends on what stability means for the club |
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Post by Porrohman on Mar 20, 2023 13:22:33 GMT 1
For the life of me, I cannot see the Dutch improving the land surrounding the Stadium {HD1 style}as previously intimated {The American plan} The land around the stadium is the least of my worries. I only go down there on a matchday, nothing in Davy's white elephant interested me enough to want to come down, if it'd gone ahead. |
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Post by boooothy on Mar 20, 2023 13:31:00 GMT 1
I haven’t got a clue what any future custodian intends to do with the club. Whatever it is, it won’t be down to the love of Huddersfield. Their intentions/motives will only become clear when it’s too late to do anything about it.
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Post by Flowerdisco on Mar 20, 2023 13:48:57 GMT 1
I'd prefer one bid to the other for sure
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Mar 20, 2023 14:12:14 GMT 1
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Post by crux on Mar 20, 2023 14:18:10 GMT 1
Of the two sets of bidders being talked about, only one appears to have the financial resources to take on the stadium and developing the surrounding land, as well as the football club and training ground.
On the face of it the Dutch bid may need help with the stadium and the American bid may need help on the football side. Maybe they should get together 🤷♂️
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Post by space hardware on Mar 20, 2023 14:19:02 GMT 1
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Post by kennyk2 on Mar 20, 2023 14:24:02 GMT 1
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Post by Kenny irons on Mar 20, 2023 14:26:42 GMT 1
If the Dutch get the takeover DH could still potentially have a minority stake in the club until everything is paid. If the Americans take over DH won't be around.
Decision on administration is upon us
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Post by boooothy on Mar 20, 2023 14:29:35 GMT 1
Doesn’t seem 2 minutes since Huddersfield were the club every fan outside the Premier League wanted their club to run like.
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Mar 20, 2023 14:29:53 GMT 1
Head says dutch Heart says our fans deserve the excitement of a cash injection. I'm leaning towards head. The clubs such a mess and we dont need another circus. The dutch might not be as exciting but I think they will be safer hands who will create a succesful football structure. When that's in place i'd feel more comfortable selling the club to someone to take us to the next level. You’ll need a Dutch cap for your head then. |
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Post by prepare on Mar 20, 2023 14:34:02 GMT 1
we certainly need stability that’s for sure but even that won’t be enough for some That all depends on what stability means for the club good point but for me it means less knee jerk reactions and a better liaison between fans and club and a thoughtful road map for the future |
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