keefer
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Post by keefer on Sept 19, 2024 16:48:31 GMT 1
Talking of hamstrings, I see Pat Jones is out til 2025 with another injury to his hamstrings before he's played for Exeter, I think. Poor kid, he maybe needs to look at another career. If that's true I really feel for the kid. I struggled with hamstring injuries all through playing football. I always think about what could have been if I hadn't had such injuries. I reckon I could have made it to reserve division 1 of the district league if my legs were stronger. I used to dream about the rarified air of reserve division 1, and I had perfect hamstrings. It was a disappointment to my teammates when I turned up before a game. Anyway I got full revenge, I became a referee |
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Post by irverino on Sept 23, 2024 9:26:28 GMT 1
Only a few days since MD did a PC but many will be anxious to hear if Miller is close to training & back before the next international break or after?......Should be just Balker & Healey long term & no one from Saturday injured, we didn't get bloody stuck in to pick one up.
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Post by nickhtafc82 on Sept 23, 2024 10:30:17 GMT 1
Only a few days since MD did a PC but many will be anxious to hear if Miller is close to training & back before the next international break or after?......Should be just Balker & Healey long term & no one from Saturday injured, we didn't get bloody stuck in to pick one up. Saw Balker before the match, doesn't appear to be in a boot etc no crutches in sight. Hopefully his recovery is going well. |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Sept 23, 2024 12:06:53 GMT 1
Only a few days since MD did a PC but many will be anxious to hear if Miller is close to training & back before the next international break or after?......Should be just Balker & Healey long term & no one from Saturday injured, we didn't get bloody stuck in to pick one up. It sounded to me like Miller wasn't serious at all and could probably have played against Northampton but we thought they would be shit enough to not need him. That didn't turn out well. I wouldn't be surprised to see him start tomorrow |
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Post by runner76 on Sept 23, 2024 12:07:46 GMT 1
Not sure Healey long term yet, just seems ‘unknown’ but with no fresh injuries at weekend we can’t blame a lack of available players if we’re shite!!
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Post by nickhtafc82 on Sept 23, 2024 15:24:47 GMT 1
Only a few days since MD did a PC but many will be anxious to hear if Miller is close to training & back before the next international break or after?......Should be just Balker & Healey long term & no one from Saturday injured, we didn't get bloody stuck in to pick one up. It sounded to me like Miller wasn't serious at all and could probably have played against Northampton but we thought they would be shit enough to not need him. That didn't turn out well. I wouldn't be surprised to see him start tomorrow He's key to how we play. Seemed to be building an understanding with Wiles, a big part of what was right in the first half at Bolton. |
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Post by Up the Duff. on Sept 24, 2024 19:45:29 GMT 1
Is Ward injured still ?
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Sept 25, 2024 6:26:07 GMT 1
Helik looked like a pulled muscle, probably hamstring, so I doubt we'll be seeing him again before November
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Post by runner76 on Sept 26, 2024 14:56:21 GMT 1
As per presser:
Miller - 50:50 may be available
Helik - Nov
Healey (Week by week TBC)
Balker (Early 2025)
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Post by FloridaTerrier on Sept 26, 2024 15:05:16 GMT 1
As per presser: Miller - 50:50 may be available Helik - Nov Healey (Week by week TBC) Balker (Early 2025) With Helik out til November. I'd imagine a flat back 4 change to the system. Having a Lees/Pearson and Spencer and Lonwijk combination leaves us VERY lightweight in terms of physicality at the back, and slow in areas. We could however get away with a flat 4 of: Spencer, Lees/Pearson, Lonwijk and Headley/Miller combo. |
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Post by boooothy on Sept 26, 2024 15:15:05 GMT 1
Sounds ridiculous as i’d say Helik is our best play but could this actually be a good thing?
His form is poor and Lees isnt really quick enough or able to carry a ball out. Lees in the middle with Spencer and Longlyk however you spell it certainly gives us more ability to bring the ball out. Add Hodge or Kane and all of a sudden no more painful Lees to Hogg back to Lees to endure.
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Post by runner76 on Sept 26, 2024 15:33:04 GMT 1
Sounds ridiculous as i’d say Helik is our best play but could this actually be a good thing? His form is poor and Lees isnt really quick enough or able to carry a ball out. Lees in the middle with Spencer and Longlyk however you spell it certainly gives us more ability to bring the ball out. Add Hodge or Kane and all of a sudden no more painful Lees to Hogg back to Lees to endure. If we have any serious plan to be up and amongst it this season we need to be able to crack on with injuries like this to key players.... |
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Post by Paphos Terrier on Sept 26, 2024 15:58:43 GMT 1
When Miller came off at half time, after the game he was walking perfectly on the pitch and clapping the Town fans. So you would think he would be okay in a week or so with a bit of a tweak but at Town it's a month. If that was me I'd have played the next Saturday but given the Sunday game a miss. If it was a bad one he wouldn't have been walking perfectly. Medical team going overboard imo
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Post by galpharm2400 on Sept 26, 2024 16:08:14 GMT 1
You get injuriès in football, you get injuries in training, you get bad luck in both those scenarios at times but we have ripped the arse out of thè 'bad luck' law of averages on injuries. Add in the growing length of times out for these injuries and the reccurring injuries to certain players and we do need to look at more than players not really wanting to play. The strength and conditioning needs looking at closely, training methods overall also and the medical treatment also needs investigating.
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Post by hoggy1975 on Sept 26, 2024 16:15:49 GMT 1
You get injuriès in football, you get injuries in training, you get bad luck in both those scenarios at times but we have ripped the arse out of thè 'bad luck' law of averages on injuries. Add in the growing length of times out for these injuries and the reccurring injuries to certain players and we do need to look at more than players not really wanting to play. The strength and conditioning needs looking at closely, training methods overall also and the medical treatment also needs investigating. The head of strength and conditioning has worked at town for at least ten years … Maybe not always as head of the department but it is a constant. |
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Sparrow
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Post by Sparrow on Sept 26, 2024 16:22:01 GMT 1
The amount of injuries we've been getting over the last few seasons is seriously worrying.
Helik simply played a back pass, under no pressure, to the keeper, and he's somehow pulled his hamstring and is out till November.
Hogg 'felt' something in the warm-up
Kasumu, Miller, Kane, Healey, Radulovic etc etc all picking up little muscle injuries and being out for weeks.
What is going on?
If it was me I'd be bringing in a series of highly qualified, experienced, independent specialists to do a full, in-depth, microscopic review of our entire Medical, Strength & Conditioning, Nutrition, fitness departments.
Surely something is going badly wrong somewhere
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Post by royrace on Sept 26, 2024 16:28:17 GMT 1
You get injuriès in football, you get injuries in training, you get bad luck in both those scenarios at times but we have ripped the arse out of thè 'bad luck' law of averages on injuries. Add in the growing length of times out for these injuries and the reccurring injuries to certain players and we do need to look at more than players not really wanting to play. The strength and conditioning needs looking at closely, training methods overall also and the medical treatment also needs investigating. The head of strength and conditioning has worked at town for at least ten years … Maybe not always as head of the department but it is a constant. Something isn't right, I've no idea what but you don't get this much bad luck with pulls and strains unless you're doing something wrong. Unfortunately it's Cartwright's job to find out what's up so we'll just have to put up with it. |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Sept 26, 2024 16:36:17 GMT 1
You get injuriès in football, you get injuries in training, you get bad luck in both those scenarios at times but we have ripped the arse out of thè 'bad luck' law of averages on injuries. Add in the growing length of times out for these injuries and the reccurring injuries to certain players and we do need to look at more than players not really wanting to play. The strength and conditioning needs looking at closely, training methods overall also and the medical treatment also needs investigating. The head of strength and conditioning has worked at town for at least ten years … Maybe not always as head of the department but it is a constant. The 'constant' that went from the ranks to being the head might need looking at then? Speaking to someone who knows infinitely more than I do about sports conditioning and training , I am informed that some of the videos made of our 'training' over the last few seasons made them scratch their head, at the very least?? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2024 16:43:20 GMT 1
The head of strength and conditioning has worked at town for at least ten years … Maybe not always as head of the department but it is a constant. The 'constant' that went from the ranks to being the head might need looking at then? Speaking to someone who knows infinitely more than I do about sports conditioning and training , I am informed that some of the videos made of our 'training' over the last few seasons made them scratch their head, at the very least?? Or maybe it was head lice? |
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Post by runner76 on Sept 26, 2024 16:58:30 GMT 1
The amount of injuries we've been getting over the last few seasons is seriously worrying. Helik simply played a back pass, under no pressure, to the keeper, and he's somehow pulled his hamstring and is out till November. Hogg 'felt' something in the warm-up Kasumu, Miller, Kane, Healey, Radulovic etc etc all picking up little muscle injuries and being out for weeks. What is going on? If it was me I'd be bringing in a series of highly qualified, experienced, independent specialists to do a full, in-depth, microscopic review of our entire Medical, Strength & Conditioning, Nutrition, fitness departments. Surely something is going badly wrong somewhere Well, seemed a massive issue last season, looking at the list right now I don't think it's anything unusual (or is it>) |
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Post by iangreaves on Sept 26, 2024 17:00:50 GMT 1
As per presser: Miller - 50:50 may be available Helik - Nov Healey (Week by week TBC) Balker (Early 2025) With Helik out til November. I'd imagine a flat back 4 change to the system. Having a Lees/Pearson and Spencer and Lonwijk combination leaves us VERY lightweight in terms of physicality at the back, and slow in areas. We could however get away with a flat 4 of: Spencer, Lees/Pearson, Lonwijk and Headley/Miller combo. That would seem sensible but Duff in the presser was still insisting the shape isn't the problem, so I presume it will be a back three. |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Sept 26, 2024 17:04:00 GMT 1
The 'constant' that went from the ranks to being the head might need looking at then? Speaking to someone who knows infinitely more than I do about sports conditioning and training , I am informed that some of the videos made of our 'training' over the last few seasons made them scratch their head, at the very least?? Or maybe it was head lice? Thar was Danny Ward, he was out for a month with them😉 |
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Post by Paphos Terrier on Sept 26, 2024 18:07:19 GMT 1
Speaking of Danny Ward, he missed a number of games due to injury before Neil Warnock entered the building and, voila!, Danny Ward was playing in the next match!
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Post by terriersyndrome on Sept 26, 2024 21:04:44 GMT 1
With Helik out til November. I'd imagine a flat back 4 change to the system. Having a Lees/Pearson and Spencer and Lonwijk combination leaves us VERY lightweight in terms of physicality at the back, and slow in areas. We could however get away with a flat 4 of: Spencer, Lees/Pearson, Lonwijk and Headley/Miller combo. That would seem sensible but Duff in the presser was still insisting the shape isn't the problem, so I presume it will be a back three. We've not got two wingers on the books, what could he possibly change it to? More nievety from the top. |
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Post by jim59 on Sept 27, 2024 20:47:55 GMT 1
Healey
How long is he out for?
The recurrent injury problem makes me wonder if he will ever get fit.
At the risk of criticism for speculation is he realistically y going to be an asset for us at any point?
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Post by keithAM11532 on Sept 27, 2024 21:30:28 GMT 1
Is anybody in the know able to produce an updated list for this thread?
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Post by irverino on Sept 28, 2024 8:28:48 GMT 1
Is anybody in the know able to produce an updated list for this thread? Balker- injured while playing, estimated return early New Year. Healey-possible old injury problem, unknown return date. Helik-non contact injury while playing, estimated early Nov. Hogg & Miller-had non contact issues, but both training & available today........Ward back from suspension too. |
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Post by araucaria on Sept 28, 2024 9:53:05 GMT 1
Is anybody in the know able to produce an updated list for this thread? Balker- injured while playing, estimated return early New Year. Healey-possible old injury problem, unknown return date. Helik-non contact injury while playing, estimated early Nov. Hogg & Miller-had non contact issues, but both training & available today........Ward back from suspension too. Ward should always be picked at the Madejski (cf. Vicarage Road). Edit: not even on the bench. Is he injured? |
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Post by andre2000 on Sept 28, 2024 13:18:43 GMT 1
Lee Nichols
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Post by htfcfcfc on Sept 28, 2024 13:44:38 GMT 1
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