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Post by terriersyndrome on Dec 10, 2022 18:34:51 GMT 1
We are desperately short of quality. I don’t think we’re badly coached. It’s all well and good asking for another change but look at what he has to work with. Same as Blackburn, we limited a decent side and got in some good positions. I don’t know what the coach can do about having players who aren’t good enough to find the final pass or finish Would we be 5 points adrift with this squad under Carlos? Nicholls, Lees, Thomas, Ward, Russell, Holmes, were all regulars in the team that got us into 3rd last season, he's also had Turton for a decent chunk of games. We've brought in a Polish & Japanese international, Rudoni cost £1m aswell. This team would not be bottom under a half decent coach.
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Post by Moooooy on Dec 10, 2022 18:35:04 GMT 1
Decent performance given the difference in class. Thought we defended well for the most part against a side with better players all over the field. The players gave everything and that’s all we can ask for, we just don’t have the quality to cause teams problems unfortunately. January can’t come soon enough, need 5 or 6 players bringing in who can go straight into the team. I think we can ask for a bit of organisation and structure too True, the players gave everything it was a mess. i had Morocco on the other screen and they showed again how structure combined with spirit can win games against better opposition I thought we were well organised defensively, which is obviously where we’ve focussed our efforts in training. Attacking wise apart from set pieces we have nothing, but I’m of the opinion that is due to the players and the lack of creativity in the squad. I’m not sure how we get anymore out of this lot attacking wise. We need better players and lots of them.
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Post by portugalterrier on Dec 10, 2022 18:37:15 GMT 1
For all the crap being spouted Nichols never made a save, the sad thing about this division is that Sheff U are joint top. Did you watch the game? Are you telling me that Town played well? We could barely string two passes together, relied on deep defence and long hoofs, and hardly created a chance worthy of the name. Sheff Utd are better than us, but that does not excuse our extremely poor performance. Yes I did watch the match, very poor 1st half, far better second, defended extreamly well, midfield looked calm and settled, played some neat and tidy football, attacking , well we know where the problems are, at least we went forward with some intent second half, hopefully players returning and a bit of luck will see us through. In the second half we looked a competent and well coached side, imo.
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Post by mids on Dec 10, 2022 18:37:40 GMT 1
He needs putting out of his misery like Siewert was...New coach gets a couple of weeks to assess the squad (simple...mostly shite)...and then trade and borrow in January Wouldn't that depend on the owner giving a flying fuck about stopping up though 🤔 He's a Town fan so of course he gives a fuck. If he wasn't selling up Fat Paddy would have gone before the World Cup break. Hopefully the new owner cracks on and gers his own manager lined up asap.
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Post by shawsie on Dec 10, 2022 18:38:54 GMT 1
We are desperately short of quality. I don’t think we’re badly coached. It’s all well and good asking for another change but look at what he has to work with. Same as Blackburn, we limited a decent side and got in some good positions. I don’t know what the coach can do about having players who aren’t good enough to find the final pass or finish Would we be 5 points adrift with this squad under Carlos? Nicholls, Lees, Thomas, Ward, Russell, Holmes, were all regulars in the team that got us into 3rd last season, he's also had Turton for a decent chunk of games. We've brought in a Polish & Japanese international, Rudoni cost £1m aswell. This team would not be bottom under a half decent coach. Possibly yes.....the summer recruitment has been dire again. To replace colwill obrien and toffs with mbepe ruffels and kasumu sums it up. Then add to that the ineffective rudoni and injury / illness plagued tino and it all amounts to difficult times ahead. We are fitter and better organised now.......but without goals Accrington and forest green await im afraid.
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Post by Metch on Dec 10, 2022 18:41:01 GMT 1
I do agree with that but Fotheringham is the end result of those poor decisions. I'm sure there are managers who would get a better tune out of what we have. I’m sure there are, but are we willing to pay their wages and are they willing to play under our current board? The time it took to appoint MF suggests we knew the answer to all 3 questions and had no other viable option. I was more than happy to give Narcis longer in the caretaker role and see what developed. He talked far more sense than Fotheringham and the players really stepped up for his sole game in charge.
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Post by Porrohman on Dec 10, 2022 18:41:06 GMT 1
Wouldn't that depend on the owner giving a flying fuck about stopping up though 🤔 He's a Town fan so of course he gives a fuck. If he wasn't selling up Fat Paddy would have gone before the World Cup break. Hopefully the new owner cracks on and gers his own manager lined up asap. Going off the interview Baldwin gave, and the timelines, there's no way we'll have a new owner before the start of next season. And that's if someone was serious about it NOW.
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Post by rockwall on Dec 10, 2022 18:42:32 GMT 1
I’m sure there are, but are we willing to pay their wages and are they willing to play under our current board? The time it took to appoint MF suggests we knew the answer to all 3 questions and had no other viable option. I was more than happy to give Narcis longer in the caretaker role and see what developed. He talked far more sense than Fotheringham and the players really stepped up for his sole game in charge. I'm not defending MF, but this myth that they stepped up for Narcis is boring. Cardiff score their penalty they go on and win the game.
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Post by Metch on Dec 10, 2022 18:44:51 GMT 1
I was more than happy to give Narcis longer in the caretaker role and see what developed. He talked far more sense than Fotheringham and the players really stepped up for his sole game in charge. I'm not defending MF, but this myth that they stepped up for Narcis is boring. Cardiff score their penalty they go on and win the game. Well, we'll never know, he didn't get the chance.
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Post by hthp on Dec 10, 2022 18:47:29 GMT 1
Let's give it Pelach and when he's just as shite as the rest of them we can put that one to bed and move on.
I remember the clamour for Gerry Murphy to get the job and Mark Lillis.
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Post by Blueblood on Dec 10, 2022 18:48:34 GMT 1
This lot couldn't pass water.
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Post by shawsie on Dec 10, 2022 18:54:50 GMT 1
We are desperately short of quality. I don’t think we’re badly coached. It’s all well and good asking for another change but look at what he has to work with. Same as Blackburn, we limited a decent side and got in some good positions. I don’t know what the coach can do about having players who aren’t good enough to find the final pass or finish Would we be 5 points adrift with this squad under Carlos? Nicholls, Lees, Thomas, Ward, Russell, Holmes, were all regulars in the team that got us into 3rd last season, he's also had Turton for a decent chunk of games. We've brought in a Polish & Japanese international, Rudoni cost £1m aswell. This team would not be bottom under a half decent coach. Possibly yes.....but the summer recruitment has been dire again. To replace colwill obrien and toffs with mbepe ruffels and kasumu sums it up. None of them have the high pressung mobility of their predecessors and rudoni may have cost c1m but hes done basically nothing. Add to that an injury / illness plagued tino and its been a bit of a mare. We are fitter and better organised now definitely - we werent either under schofield.......but without a goal threat of note Accrington and Forest Green await im afraid.
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Post by space hardware on Dec 10, 2022 18:55:17 GMT 1
He's off his fucking swede, that guy.
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Post by rockwall on Dec 10, 2022 18:57:57 GMT 1
Would we be 5 points adrift with this squad under Carlos? Nicholls, Lees, Thomas, Ward, Russell, Holmes, were all regulars in the team that got us into 3rd last season, he's also had Turton for a decent chunk of games. We've brought in a Polish & Japanese international, Rudoni cost £1m aswell. This team would not be bottom under a half decent coach. Possibly yes.....but the summer recruitment has been dire again. To replace colwill obrien and toffs with mbepe ruffels and kasumu sums it up. None of them have the high pressung mobility of their predecessors and rudoni may have cost c1m but hes done basically nothing. Add to that an injury / illness plagued tino and its been a bit of a mare. We are fitter and better organised now definitely - we werent either under schofield.......but without a goal threat of note Accrington and Forest Green await im afraid. We replaced Colwill with Mbete (before his performances, no complaints) Toffolo with Yuta (apart from Toffs run towards the end of the last season, both on a par) And we have replaced LOB with Kasumu, promising start from Kasumu but LOB has huge boots to fill. We do really need a proven striker. The money we have wasted on mistakes could have done exactly that.
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Post by impact on Dec 10, 2022 19:02:20 GMT 1
Possibly yes.....but the summer recruitment has been dire again. To replace colwill obrien and toffs with mbepe ruffels and kasumu sums it up. None of them have the high pressung mobility of their predecessors and rudoni may have cost c1m but hes done basically nothing. Add to that an injury / illness plagued tino and its been a bit of a mare. We are fitter and better organised now definitely - we werent either under schofield.......but without a goal threat of note Accrington and Forest Green await im afraid. We replaced Colwill with Mbete (before his performances, no complaints) Toffolo with Yuta (apart from Toffs run towards the end of the last season, both on a par) And we have replaced LOB with Kasumu, promising start from Kasumu but LOB has huge boots to fill. We do really need a proven striker. The money we have wasted on mistakes could have done exactly that. Plus good money spent on Helik and Rudoni. LOB was always going and he was always going to be very difficult to replace. I wasn't too worried about the rest of the recruitment. The issue is they haven't hit their potential and the solid players from last year have hugely underperformed.
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Dec 10, 2022 19:04:30 GMT 1
I'm not defending MF, but this myth that they stepped up for Narcis is boring. Cardiff score their penalty they go on and win the game. Well, we'll never know, he didn't get the chance. He never wanted it in the first place, so why all the clamour for him? 🤷🏻♂️
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Post by duncfost01 on Dec 10, 2022 19:07:47 GMT 1
We lack quality and we all know why.
Mugged us all right off.
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Post by Metch on Dec 10, 2022 19:11:11 GMT 1
Well, we'll never know, he didn't get the chance. He never wanted it in the first place, so why all the clamour for him? 🤷🏻♂️ I'm not clamouring for him?? I was saying that Narcis impressed me in that one game so there was no rush to appoint the absolute jerk we have now. Why do people read what they want into a post to suit their own agenda, the curse of social media.
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Post by mids on Dec 10, 2022 19:15:35 GMT 1
He's off his fucking swede, that guy. Doesn't help his own cause does he
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Post by portugalterrier on Dec 10, 2022 19:15:52 GMT 1
We lack quality and we all know why. Mugged us all right off. What do you think 16000 @ £150 ( accounting for kids) buys, don’t think any new owners going to fund some on here who expect Man City for less than £10 ( ex vat) per match.
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Post by mids on Dec 10, 2022 19:17:10 GMT 1
He's a Town fan so of course he gives a fuck. If he wasn't selling up Fat Paddy would have gone before the World Cup break. Hopefully the new owner cracks on and gers his own manager lined up asap. Going off the interview Baldwin gave, and the timelines, there's no way we'll have a new owner before the start of next season. And that's if someone was serious about it NOW. True. Someone has got to be in control. Whoever that is needs to act, and get it sorted out.
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Post by townrwe on Dec 10, 2022 19:17:56 GMT 1
Sensible tactics, carried out reasonably well, the gulf in budgets wasn't as evident in the game, but one moment of magic from sharp and we lose the game.
A draw would have been a fair reflection and no way did we deserve to win it, but can't say sheff utd deserved to win either.
Utt
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Post by andyeastleake on Dec 10, 2022 19:25:13 GMT 1
but can't say sheff utd deserved to win either. Only if you ignore the fact they scored one we scored none. ....& 17 shots to 4 also gives a slight indication. ...although TBF they were disappointing for a team in second place
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Post by portugalterrier on Dec 10, 2022 19:31:00 GMT 1
but can't say sheff utd deserved to win either. Only if you ignore the fact they scored one we scored none. ....& 17 shots to 4 also gives a slight indication. ...although TBF they were disappointing for a team in second place Those 17 shots are probably responsible for about 15 people in row Z being hit, their shooting was worse than ours, quantity but certainly no quality.
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Post by andyeastleake on Dec 10, 2022 19:32:14 GMT 1
We lack quality and we all know why. Mugged us all right off. What do you think 16000 @ £150 ( accounting for kids) buys, don’t think any new owners going to fund some on here who expect Man City for less than £10 ( ex vat) per match. Remind me, who decided not to increase season ticket prices when we were promoted to the PL?
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Post by space hardware on Dec 10, 2022 19:33:33 GMT 1
Sensible tactics, carried out reasonably well, the gulf in budgets wasn't as evident in the game, but one moment of magic from sharp and we lose the game. A draw would have been a fair reflection and no way did we deserve to win it, but can't say sheff utd deserved to win either. Utt I know you're uber positive with your guy MF but, come on, that was shite.
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Dec 10, 2022 19:40:11 GMT 1
He never wanted it in the first place, so why all the clamour for him? 🤷🏻♂️ I'm not clamouring for him?? I was saying that Narcis impressed me in that one game so there was no rush to appoint the absolute jerk we have now. Why do people read what they want into a post to suit their own agenda, the curse of social media. I'm not say that YOU are clamouring for him, but there is a general feeling amongst many on here that he should have been given the gig. I only quoted your response because you and the quote that you used both mentioned him.
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Post by portugalterrier on Dec 10, 2022 19:58:35 GMT 1
What do you think 16000 @ £150 ( accounting for kids) buys, don’t think any new owners going to fund some on here who expect Man City for less than £10 ( ex vat) per match. Remind me, who decided not to increase season ticket prices when we were promoted to the PL? When you’re in the PL gate receipts are more or less of no importance, too many people on here want and expect champagne football at Irn Brew prices, and presumably you’re referring to the man who has apparently paid over £10 million into the club to cover every thing till the end of the season in the last few weeks.
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Post by Toxic Ted on Dec 10, 2022 20:27:39 GMT 1
Remind me, who decided not to increase season ticket prices when we were promoted to the PL? When you’re in the PL gate receipts are more or less of no importance, too many people on here want and expect champagne football at Irn Brew prices, and presumably you’re referring to the man who has apparently paid over £10 million into the club to cover every thing till the end of the season in the last few weeks. Who sold cheap season tickets for ten years, soaked up the adulation then demanded the club pay him back every penny of the subsequent shortfall once he was out of the limelight?
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Post by rockwall on Dec 10, 2022 20:34:04 GMT 1
Well, we'll never know, he didn't get the chance. He never wanted it in the first place, so why all the clamour for him? 🤷🏻♂️ Especially when fans moan at inexperienced people who haven't managed before.
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