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Post by bells ringing :) on Dec 28, 2022 11:46:42 GMT 1
I would have Barnes at town in a hearbeat, leads the line very well causes issues for defenders. I have seen him play a few times this season, granted in cameos but he was never quick and still has the problem factor to deal with for defenders. He is a leader, he will demand more from those around him, which we need, just enough is not enough anymore in our circumstance , we need players coming in like Lawton and barnes , who are very much use to winning games at this level . We need players who know what it takes to win at this level, yes we have them but we need more. The standards of what is expected have dropped off, we need to bring players in who bring that back up to the highest level .
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Post by benhomly on Dec 28, 2022 11:55:47 GMT 1
According to Wiki Barnes has made 16 appearances this season for a team who’s top of the league. He might be a target but has anyone asked him if he’d like to move to a side that’s bottom? If he’s available I’m sure better placed clubs than ours will come in for him
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Post by bells ringing :) on Dec 28, 2022 11:58:42 GMT 1
According to Wiki Barnes has made 16 appearances this season for a team who’s top of the league. He might be a target but has anyone asked him if he’d like to move to a side that’s bottom? If he’s available I’m sure better placed clubs than ours will come in for him Maybe Baldwin can win him round maybe?
Plus the factor or him been settled where he is, maybe not having to move or move to far away?
Playing week in week out might swing it?
The offer of a say 1 year deal with an option, if we were to stay up ?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2022 11:58:55 GMT 1
According to Wiki Barnes has made 16 appearances this season for a team who’s top of the league. He might be a target but has anyone asked him if he’d like to move to a side that’s bottom? If he’s available I’m sure better placed clubs than ours will come in for him Most of his appearances have been little cameos. |
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Dec 28, 2022 12:11:45 GMT 1
When you think Ondo was our option off the bench earlier this season, how could anyone complain about the prospect of Barnes potentially signing?
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Post by Porrohman on Dec 28, 2022 12:14:53 GMT 1
Obviously it’s the return of Andy King…. The original AK47, welcome back Anthony Kay. |
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Post by Detective Boyle on Dec 28, 2022 12:53:27 GMT 1
Whilst he adds some much needed experience, Barnes is way past it, don’t think that will be a good signing personally. Lowton is a good signing He's only a year older than lowton. Can't really say one is past it and other be a good signing. Plus don't need a big lump like Barnes running around Barnes imo is past it because every time I’ve seen him play he’s been shocking |
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Post by bells ringing :) on Dec 28, 2022 12:56:53 GMT 1
He's only a year older than lowton. Can't really say one is past it and other be a good signing. Plus don't need a big lump like Barnes running around Barnes imo is past it because every time I’ve seen him play he’s been shocking Depends what you mean by shocking, even when he is "shocking" he gives everything and causes huge problems for defenders still. I bet if you asked any defender , who do you hate playing against i be Barnes is up there still to this very day . |
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Post by Teddington Ted on Dec 28, 2022 13:02:22 GMT 1
We definitely need another 33 year old striker with limited mobility to stand up front on his own and have the ball booted at him from 60yds.
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Post by Kenny irons on Dec 28, 2022 13:04:09 GMT 1
Ashley barnes is 1 of the targets but a few deals need to fall into place for that to happen. Another player player from overseas and matt Lowton is ours on loan if we want him. Town having a good look at him before making a decision. Kenny bless you sir. Lowton was at canalside yesterday- therefore i do not think town need to "have a look at him" remember this is a football club, who signed connor Mahony off 14 apperances in 4 years. Lawton last season played games in the prem. I think with him been at canalside yesterday the fact is we want him.
Ah bluebell He wasn't just there yesterday pal he's been at canalside over Xmas.so around 2 or 3 days training with us 😉 Burnley have agreed for him to join us town are simply having a better look at him to get him upto speed. The deal will be done |
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Post by bells ringing :) on Dec 28, 2022 13:10:47 GMT 1
Kenny bless you sir. Lowton was at canalside yesterday- therefore i do not think town need to "have a look at him" remember this is a football club, who signed connor Mahony off 14 apperances in 4 years. Lawton last season played games in the prem. I think with him been at canalside yesterday the fact is we want him.
Ah bluebell He wasn't just there yesterday pal he's been at canalside over Xmas.so around 2 or 3 days training with us 😉 Burnley have agreed for him to join us town are simply having a better look at him to get him upto speed. The deal will be done Exactly my point Kenny
We are asessing a guy who played in the prem last season, yet did not assess a guy who has played 14 games in the last 4 years? more get him up to speed than a look , to see if he is good neough. Lawton is more than good neough for what we need right now.
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Post by Essex Terrier on Dec 28, 2022 13:24:18 GMT 1
Grant Holt.
When we signed him we got an experienced centre forward who was a master at his trade, albeit his best days were behind him. He livened the whole team and club up.
Same again please.
(Yes, not the actual GH, and I know that was at a lower level.)
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Post by bblueterrier on Dec 28, 2022 13:57:41 GMT 1
Ashley Barnes is very unlikely. He is still very much a part of Burnley's plans mostly as a sub for the latter stages. Lowton is done expect to see KKH return. Lowton is very much an orthodox, experienced solid RB similar to the signing of Danny Simpson. He certainly doesn't posses the attributes to play RWB so expect a change to a back 4 once Lowton is up to speed probably mid Jan.
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Post by bells ringing :) on Dec 28, 2022 14:22:18 GMT 1
If we got to a 3-5-2 or a 3-5-1-1 type system. Barnes could bring others into play and hold it up for the runners from midfield . in a two up front, he could defelect attention from the other cf , a lot like Novak did for rhodes , win flick ons etc for Simpson .
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Post by Next Manager coming soon on Dec 28, 2022 14:22:30 GMT 1
People suggesting Ashley Barnes wouldn’t be an improvement on what we have. The day DATM actually lost its mind!!!
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Post by bells ringing :) on Dec 28, 2022 14:26:53 GMT 1
Ashley Barnes is very unlikely. He is still very much a part of Burnley's plans mostly as a sub for the latter stages. Lowton is done expect to see KKH return. Lowton is very much an orthodox, experienced solid RB similar to the signing of Danny Simpson. He certainly doesn't posses the attributes to play RWB so expect a change to a back 4 once Lowton is up to speed probably mid Jan. Lawton can play both, i have seen him do it for Burnely as recently as last season. Simpson was past it when we signed him , other than the first game against millwall , Simpson was a shocking liability of a singing . Burnley are also looking at a number of CF's a few been mentioned from the belgian league, Barnes game time will be almost no existent by end of Jan. |
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Dec 28, 2022 14:35:30 GMT 1
Ashley Barnes is very unlikely. He is still very much a part of Burnley's plans mostly as a sub for the latter stages. Lowton is done expect to see KKH return. Lowton is very much an orthodox, experienced solid RB similar to the signing of Danny Simpson. He certainly doesn't posses the attributes to play RWB so expect a change to a back 4 once Lowton is up to speed probably mid Jan. The likelihood will change if Burnley get a striker in though. Town probably just making sure they are front of the queue if the opportunity arises. |
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Post by VLP Fan Club on Dec 28, 2022 14:35:55 GMT 1
Ashley Barnes isn’t happening or so I’ve been told
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Post by bells ringing :) on Dec 28, 2022 14:37:17 GMT 1
Ashley Barnes isn’t happening or so I’ve been told Currently things can change , Barnes may well happen if / when Burnley strengthen and we get rid of the wages we want to move on . |
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Post by VLP Fan Club on Dec 28, 2022 14:39:25 GMT 1
Ashley Barnes isn’t happening or so I’ve been told Currently things can change , Barnes may well happen if / when Burnley strengthen and we get rid of the wages we want to move on . Ashley Barnes earns more than any of our strikers. |
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Post by bells ringing :) on Dec 28, 2022 14:44:02 GMT 1
Currently things can change , Barnes may well happen if / when Burnley strengthen and we get rid of the wages we want to move on . Ashley Barnes earns more than any of our strikers. Exactly VLP- if we were to shift on say Ward, then the wage bill comes down, Mbete , Tino and maybe Holmes . This will free up a lot of wages to see what we can do. But also i think Town are playing the we have no money card, not saying we are going to throw it around by any means, but i think options of signings are higher than we think, we are looking/ close to tieing up Lawton he will be on good money. There is also KKH to go back . Lastly if we , which i know we are looking to loan out some of the younger guys , wages still gone. |
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Post by dezzly on Dec 28, 2022 15:28:00 GMT 1
Whilst he adds some much needed experience, Barnes is way past it, don’t think that will be a good signing personally. Lowton is a good signing Think more than comfortably does a job and a good one,was playing fairly regular in the prem last season was he not? Plus he’s got a nasty side to him that isn’t nice to play against. In the circumstances think be a good signing |
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Post by Uddersfield on Dec 28, 2022 16:53:51 GMT 1
Elliot Anderson is only getting a few minutes here and there. Would be a great loan.
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Post by Tiro on Dec 28, 2022 16:54:32 GMT 1
Are we all still thinking about Barnes, when we don’t know it’s Barnes? Surely there are more players in world football with the initials ‘AB’?
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Post by bells ringing :) on Dec 28, 2022 17:07:49 GMT 1
People said we were very keen on Elliot Anderson in the summer, if Newcastle are willing to let him out on loan maybe we are on it again? Would probs be the tino replacment i would asume.
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Post by FloridaTerrier on Dec 28, 2022 18:59:18 GMT 1
We definitely need another 33 year old striker with limited mobility to stand up front on his own and have the ball booted at him from 60yds. For what it's worth. (not a lot). I rate Barnes. What he does for a team in terms of impetus, aggression, he's a handful and an annoying striker. I think in Rhodes and Ward were probably a little "too nice" up top. Cracking pro's. But, for our situation we need a little bite. Especially if were looking to introduce Simpson more. Not your prolific goalscorer by any stretch. But, decent in the air, hold up play decent, link up play decent. We have an incredibly young squad in arguably the difficult transition we've faced as a club in recent time. We're going to need some experienced heads and pro's. I'd rather have him than not have him that's for sure. |
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Post by Kenny irons on Dec 28, 2022 19:01:51 GMT 1
Bizarre some on here think Barnes would not be a upgrade on what we have. He's scored goals in the premiership and championship on a consistant basis for a number of seasons now. He's on the list as of now but like I said previously alot of things have to fall into place for this to happen. If other targets happen before barnes gets the green light. It won't happen.
Transfers aren't as simple as some may think.
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Post by Teddington Ted on Dec 28, 2022 19:07:44 GMT 1
We definitely need another 33 year old striker with limited mobility to stand up front on his own and have the ball booted at him from 60yds. For what it's worth. (not a lot). I rate Barnes. What he does for a team in terms of impetus, aggression, he's a handful and an annoying striker. I think in Rhodes and Ward were probably a little "too nice" up top. Cracking pro's. But, for our situation we need a little bite. Especially if were looking to introduce Simpson more. Not your prolific goalscorer by any stretch. But, decent in the air, hold up play decent, link up play decent. We have an incredibly young squad in arguably the difficult transition we've faced as a club in recent time. We're going to need some experienced heads and pro's. I'd rather have him than not have him that's for sure. All good points. When Holt came in we had Wells & Vaughan buzzing around him, Scannell & Bunn making runs on the flanks. I just fear that he’d be as isolated as Rhodes/Ward have been. An experienced, old school number 9 can create havoc but we need others close to him to take advantage. Big Wayne Allison was a superb example: when he arrived Stewart & Dalton had a field day. I’m not sure we have the same attributes in the squad for him to set free. |
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Post by Tiro on Dec 28, 2022 19:26:36 GMT 1
For what it's worth. (not a lot). I rate Barnes. What he does for a team in terms of impetus, aggression, he's a handful and an annoying striker. I think in Rhodes and Ward were probably a little "too nice" up top. Cracking pro's. But, for our situation we need a little bite. Especially if were looking to introduce Simpson more. Not your prolific goalscorer by any stretch. But, decent in the air, hold up play decent, link up play decent. We have an incredibly young squad in arguably the difficult transition we've faced as a club in recent time. We're going to need some experienced heads and pro's. I'd rather have him than not have him that's for sure. All good points. When Holt came in we had Wells & Vaughan buzzing around him, Scannell & Bunn making runs on the flanks. I just fear that he’d be as isolated as Rhodes/Ward have been. An experienced, old school number 9 can create havoc but we need others close to him to take advantage. Big Wayne Allison was a superb example: when he arrived Stewart & Dalton had a field day. I’m not sure we have the same attributes in the squad for him to set free. I agree with this. I think Barnes would no doubt be an upgrade on what we have at the moment, but it’s not the key issue in my mind. If we were to feed Rhodes more, he’d score. But the options we have are all the same - we can’t mix it up. We need something different. |
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Dec 28, 2022 19:30:29 GMT 1
For what it's worth. (not a lot). I rate Barnes. What he does for a team in terms of impetus, aggression, he's a handful and an annoying striker. I think in Rhodes and Ward were probably a little "too nice" up top. Cracking pro's. But, for our situation we need a little bite. Especially if were looking to introduce Simpson more. Not your prolific goalscorer by any stretch. But, decent in the air, hold up play decent, link up play decent. We have an incredibly young squad in arguably the difficult transition we've faced as a club in recent time. We're going to need some experienced heads and pro's. I'd rather have him than not have him that's for sure. All good points. When Holt came in we had Wells & Vaughan buzzing around him, Scannell & Bunn making runs on the flanks. I just fear that he’d be as isolated as Rhodes/Ward have been. An experienced, old school number 9 can create havoc but we need others close to him to take advantage. Big Wayne Allison was a superb example: when he arrived Stewart & Dalton had a field day. I’m not sure we have the same attributes in the squad for him to set free. All valid points Ted. We have been crying out for a “proper”No 9 for a long time but agree he would need support. Sometimes (as with Grant Holt ) a new experienced arrival up front can provide some fresh impetus and have an effect on the rest of the team. On balance, if it is Barnes, I’d say it’s a great move. |
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