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Post by kennyk2 on Feb 2, 2023 9:28:16 GMT 1
Apologies if this has been mentioned elsewhere, but did LOB move to Blackburn on loan? Appears not from what I can glean online? More out of interest due to the fact it seemed to be being discussed as a done deal last night? By Alan Nixon Blackburn’s on-off move for Lewis O’Brien move is in the balance … and here is the breakdown of the drama. Deadline day starts with Rovers following up a previous inquiry for the Nottingham Forest midfielder. Rovers are happy to pay his wages in full on loan for the rest of the season and wait on the player to decide. West Brom coach Carlos Corberan wants his old Huddersfield player to join his squad but the club is yet to commit. Sheffield United are desperate for O’Brien and the player is keen on them. However Blades are under a transfer embargo and need to sell Sander Berge. The Norwegian is waiting on Newcastle, who do not seem keen come the crunch. Alternative choices are headed by Brighton but they pull the plug in Moises Caicedo leaving and do not come in. By this point Blackburn have kicked on and say they will take O’Brien and agree to the Forest demand that they sign him for £10 million. This part of the deal hinges on Rovers being promoted and they are happy to do that. Baggies do not want to sign up for that plan. At 3pm on deadline day O’Brien gives the green light to Blackburn and heads to Manchester for a medical. There are no snags and his agents are at Blackburn to sort out terms on the potential full time move at the end of it. O’Brien’s advisors and Blackburn discuss what the wages and length of contract will be in the deal should they go up. Those figures are disclosed and Blackburn are not out off, but no contract for that eventuality is signed. Paperwork is done and sent over for the loan but the timing is delayed by those discussions over the future of the player AFTER the end of the season. There are no problems again and Forest say they are happy for the deal to go ahead on the basis agreed between the clubs. In the frantic final minutes O’Brien, who did his interview with the club press, was interrupted just before the deadline to sign the form. But then it is discovered that ONE signed form that was needed for the deal to proceed was not sent off after it was signed before 11pm. Now the EFL are looking into the details and the explanations of the case - among several others that are also borderline decisions. Then the recent update: By Alan Nixon Blackburn Rovers are submitting a detailed case to the EFL to push for Lewis O’Brien’s move to go through. The EFL have not accepted the registration for the Nottingham Forest midfielder to join Rovers on loan. The deal would also see a potential £10 million switch if Rovers win promotion, making it the BIGGEST transfer this season. Now Rovers will explain why their paperwork included one part that arrived late and hope that the EFL board will accept the explanation. Rovers have until 9am on Friday to state their case and the EFL will then consider the case. The main hold up in talks was over the potential ‘next stage’ of the transfer when Rovers would pay Forest and the player would get a new contract. This may be used to explain why there was a delay in the late deal. The EFL need to be absolutely sure that regulations have been followed as rival clubs will be watching. There have been threatened legal cases in the past and if O’Brien played a part in promotion the details of his transfer could become open to scrutiny. The most interesting thing that I got from that is that Blackburn will be paying his wages in full whilst on loan. What will they be... £25,000, £30,000, £40,000 p/w? Without going into the financial backing debate at Town... this just shows the disparity between clubs in the Championship.
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Post by prepare on Feb 2, 2023 11:25:34 GMT 1
By Alan Nixon Blackburn’s on-off move for Lewis O’Brien move is in the balance … and here is the breakdown of the drama. Deadline day starts with Rovers following up a previous inquiry for the Nottingham Forest midfielder. Rovers are happy to pay his wages in full on loan for the rest of the season and wait on the player to decide. West Brom coach Carlos Corberan wants his old Huddersfield player to join his squad but the club is yet to commit. Sheffield United are desperate for O’Brien and the player is keen on them. However Blades are under a transfer embargo and need to sell Sander Berge. The Norwegian is waiting on Newcastle, who do not seem keen come the crunch. Alternative choices are headed by Brighton but they pull the plug in Moises Caicedo leaving and do not come in. By this point Blackburn have kicked on and say they will take O’Brien and agree to the Forest demand that they sign him for £10 million. This part of the deal hinges on Rovers being promoted and they are happy to do that. Baggies do not want to sign up for that plan. At 3pm on deadline day O’Brien gives the green light to Blackburn and heads to Manchester for a medical. There are no snags and his agents are at Blackburn to sort out terms on the potential full time move at the end of it. O’Brien’s advisors and Blackburn discuss what the wages and length of contract will be in the deal should they go up. Those figures are disclosed and Blackburn are not out off, but no contract for that eventuality is signed. Paperwork is done and sent over for the loan but the timing is delayed by those discussions over the future of the player AFTER the end of the season. There are no problems again and Forest say they are happy for the deal to go ahead on the basis agreed between the clubs. In the frantic final minutes O’Brien, who did his interview with the club press, was interrupted just before the deadline to sign the form. But then it is discovered that ONE signed form that was needed for the deal to proceed was not sent off after it was signed before 11pm. Now the EFL are looking into the details and the explanations of the case - among several others that are also borderline decisions. Then the recent update: By Alan Nixon Blackburn Rovers are submitting a detailed case to the EFL to push for Lewis O’Brien’s move to go through. The EFL have not accepted the registration for the Nottingham Forest midfielder to join Rovers on loan. The deal would also see a potential £10 million switch if Rovers win promotion, making it the BIGGEST transfer this season. Now Rovers will explain why their paperwork included one part that arrived late and hope that the EFL board will accept the explanation. Rovers have until 9am on Friday to state their case and the EFL will then consider the case. The main hold up in talks was over the potential ‘next stage’ of the transfer when Rovers would pay Forest and the player would get a new contract. This may be used to explain why there was a delay in the late deal. The EFL need to be absolutely sure that regulations have been followed as rival clubs will be watching. There have been threatened legal cases in the past and if O’Brien played a part in promotion the details of his transfer could become open to scrutiny. The most interesting thing that I got from that is that Blackburn will be paying his wages in full whilst on loan. What will they be... £25,000, £30,000, £40,000 p/w? Without going into the financial backing debate it Town... this just shows the disparity between clubs in the Championship. you are correct Kenny I just wish some on here realised it but there is not much chance of that!!
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Post by ram on Feb 2, 2023 11:26:43 GMT 1
And how will all that affect any sell on clause we have {If we have one}?
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Post by terriersyndrome on Feb 2, 2023 11:30:54 GMT 1
The most interesting thing that I got from that is that Blackburn will be paying his wages in full whilst on loan. What will they be... £25,000, £30,000, £40,000 p/w? Without going into the financial backing debate it Town... this just shows the disparity between clubs in the Championship. you are correct Kenny I just wish some on here realised it but therebb be is not much chance of that!! Realise what? That premier league teams pay far bigger wages than championship teams? I don't think anybody on here would doubt that. Your condescending posts are getting quite boring now.
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Post by prepare on Feb 2, 2023 11:35:55 GMT 1
you are correct Kenny I just wish some on here realised it but therebb be is not much chance of that!! Realise what? That premier league teams pay far bigger wages than championship teams? I don't think anybody on here would doubt that. Your condescending posts are getting quite boring now. thank you😉
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Post by Porrohman on Feb 2, 2023 11:55:33 GMT 1
By Alan Nixon Blackburn’s on-off move for Lewis O’Brien move is in the balance … and here is the breakdown of the drama. Deadline day starts with Rovers following up a previous inquiry for the Nottingham Forest midfielder. Rovers are happy to pay his wages in full on loan for the rest of the season and wait on the player to decide. West Brom coach Carlos Corberan wants his old Huddersfield player to join his squad but the club is yet to commit. Sheffield United are desperate for O’Brien and the player is keen on them. However Blades are under a transfer embargo and need to sell Sander Berge. The Norwegian is waiting on Newcastle, who do not seem keen come the crunch. Alternative choices are headed by Brighton but they pull the plug in Moises Caicedo leaving and do not come in. By this point Blackburn have kicked on and say they will take O’Brien and agree to the Forest demand that they sign him for £10 million. This part of the deal hinges on Rovers being promoted and they are happy to do that. Baggies do not want to sign up for that plan. At 3pm on deadline day O’Brien gives the green light to Blackburn and heads to Manchester for a medical. There are no snags and his agents are at Blackburn to sort out terms on the potential full time move at the end of it. O’Brien’s advisors and Blackburn discuss what the wages and length of contract will be in the deal should they go up. Those figures are disclosed and Blackburn are not out off, but no contract for that eventuality is signed. Paperwork is done and sent over for the loan but the timing is delayed by those discussions over the future of the player AFTER the end of the season. There are no problems again and Forest say they are happy for the deal to go ahead on the basis agreed between the clubs. In the frantic final minutes O’Brien, who did his interview with the club press, was interrupted just before the deadline to sign the form. But then it is discovered that ONE signed form that was needed for the deal to proceed was not sent off after it was signed before 11pm. Now the EFL are looking into the details and the explanations of the case - among several others that are also borderline decisions. Then the recent update: By Alan Nixon Blackburn Rovers are submitting a detailed case to the EFL to push for Lewis O’Brien’s move to go through. The EFL have not accepted the registration for the Nottingham Forest midfielder to join Rovers on loan. The deal would also see a potential £10 million switch if Rovers win promotion, making it the BIGGEST transfer this season. Now Rovers will explain why their paperwork included one part that arrived late and hope that the EFL board will accept the explanation. Rovers have until 9am on Friday to state their case and the EFL will then consider the case. The main hold up in talks was over the potential ‘next stage’ of the transfer when Rovers would pay Forest and the player would get a new contract. This may be used to explain why there was a delay in the late deal. The EFL need to be absolutely sure that regulations have been followed as rival clubs will be watching. There have been threatened legal cases in the past and if O’Brien played a part in promotion the details of his transfer could become open to scrutiny. The most interesting thing that I got from that is that Blackburn will be paying his wages in full whilst on loan. What will they be... £25,000, £30,000, £40,000 p/w? Without going into the financial backing debate it Town... this just shows the disparity between clubs in the Championship. If its £40k/week for 4 months and they went up 🤔 £640k doesn't seem bad. Would be much funnier if they don't go up though.
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Post by alexdire on Feb 2, 2023 13:33:01 GMT 1
Forrest have named 24 players for their squad and have to name the last by 3pm.
That's between Ayew and O'Brien. So at 3 pm O'Brien probably won't be playing Premier League football.
Blackburn are appealing the loan paperwork issue. But currently he isn't their player. So there's a good chance he isn't playing there either.
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Post by alexdire on Feb 2, 2023 13:35:51 GMT 1
By Alan Nixon Blackburn’s on-off move for Lewis O’Brien move is in the balance … and here is the breakdown of the drama. Deadline day starts with Rovers following up a previous inquiry for the Nottingham Forest midfielder. Rovers are happy to pay his wages in full on loan for the rest of the season and wait on the player to decide. West Brom coach Carlos Corberan wants his old Huddersfield player to join his squad but the club is yet to commit. Sheffield United are desperate for O’Brien and the player is keen on them. However Blades are under a transfer embargo and need to sell Sander Berge. The Norwegian is waiting on Newcastle, who do not seem keen come the crunch. Alternative choices are headed by Brighton but they pull the plug in Moises Caicedo leaving and do not come in. By this point Blackburn have kicked on and say they will take O’Brien and agree to the Forest demand that they sign him for £10 million. This part of the deal hinges on Rovers being promoted and they are happy to do that. Baggies do not want to sign up for that plan. At 3pm on deadline day O’Brien gives the green light to Blackburn and heads to Manchester for a medical. There are no snags and his agents are at Blackburn to sort out terms on the potential full time move at the end of it. O’Brien’s advisors and Blackburn discuss what the wages and length of contract will be in the deal should they go up. Those figures are disclosed and Blackburn are not out off, but no contract for that eventuality is signed. Paperwork is done and sent over for the loan but the timing is delayed by those discussions over the future of the player AFTER the end of the season. There are no problems again and Forest say they are happy for the deal to go ahead on the basis agreed between the clubs. In the frantic final minutes O’Brien, who did his interview with the club press, was interrupted just before the deadline to sign the form. But then it is discovered that ONE signed form that was needed for the deal to proceed was not sent off after it was signed before 11pm. Now the EFL are looking into the details and the explanations of the case - among several others that are also borderline decisions. Then the recent update: By Alan Nixon Blackburn Rovers are submitting a detailed case to the EFL to push for Lewis O’Brien’s move to go through. The EFL have not accepted the registration for the Nottingham Forest midfielder to join Rovers on loan. The deal would also see a potential £10 million switch if Rovers win promotion, making it the BIGGEST transfer this season. Now Rovers will explain why their paperwork included one part that arrived late and hope that the EFL board will accept the explanation. Rovers have until 9am on Friday to state their case and the EFL will then consider the case. The main hold up in talks was over the potential ‘next stage’ of the transfer when Rovers would pay Forest and the player would get a new contract. This may be used to explain why there was a delay in the late deal. The EFL need to be absolutely sure that regulations have been followed as rival clubs will be watching. There have been threatened legal cases in the past and if O’Brien played a part in promotion the details of his transfer could become open to scrutiny. The most interesting thing that I got from that is that Blackburn will be paying his wages in full whilst on loan. What will they be... £25,000, £30,000, £40,000 p/w? Without going into the financial backing debate at Town... this just shows the disparity between clubs in the Championship. That's an awful lot of chicken.
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Feb 2, 2023 15:09:48 GMT 1
Nixon reporting that the O'brien appeal has been knocked back and the move has been blocked.
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Post by VLP Fan Club on Feb 2, 2023 15:11:31 GMT 1
Nixon reporting that the O'brien appeal has been knocked back and the move has been blocked. He’s in exile now - U23’s till end of season he won’t kick a ball for them now
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Post by portugalterrier on Feb 2, 2023 15:40:09 GMT 1
£22000, basic before any bonuses according to my info.per week !
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Post by detox on Feb 2, 2023 15:45:24 GMT 1
Shows what a shit show it as at Forest..they're buying players by the dozen then buying more players to replace those they bought earlier and then trying to offload in any way they can because they can't have squad numbers in the 100's... i can't imagine how much cash they've spaffed and what their losses will be at the end of the year. This scattergun approach to building a team is bizarre, Cooper appears to be overwhelmed by the resources the owner has given him, like a kid in a sweet shop after being given £5 for their birthday... As for O'Brien..well he'll still be earning £1m plus a year , maybe £2m pa..which in the end is what it's all about in the short life of a footballer..it buys you a secure future having that sort of cash in the bank..will he be bothered he'll be playing 2nd team football ? I don't know the lad but if it were me I'd just be thinking , keep paying me guys, you've fooked up ..
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Post by kennyk2 on Feb 2, 2023 15:51:33 GMT 1
Nixon reporting that the O'brien appeal has been knocked back and the move has been blocked. Funny how he's highly prized and the best player ever now that he's not at Huddersfield. Couldn't even get in the Championship EFL of the season last year.
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Post by townarentbest on Feb 2, 2023 16:00:51 GMT 1
you are correct Kenny I just wish some on here realised it but therebb be is not much chance of that!! Realise what? That premier league teams pay far bigger wages than championship teams? I don't think anybody on here would doubt that. Your condescending posts are getting quite boring now. Isn't the realisation that - Championship teams like Blackburn are prepared to pay far bigger wages than Championship teams like Huddersfield are able to pay. Acknowledge that and those going, "why arent we in for OBrien/Toffolo...we're a shambolic mess" get their answer.
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Post by Dan on Feb 2, 2023 16:13:01 GMT 1
Nixon reporting that the O'brien appeal has been knocked back and the move has been blocked. He’s in exile now - U23’s till end of season he won’t kick a ball for them now Yet they're signing Ayew to be their 25th man when they've no need for him, knowing full well that leaves Lewis twiddling his thumbs for 6 months.
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Post by kennyk2 on Feb 2, 2023 16:32:57 GMT 1
Realise what? That premier league teams pay far bigger wages than championship teams? I don't think anybody on here would doubt that. Your condescending posts are getting quite boring now. Isn't the realisation that - Championship teams like Blackburn are prepared to pay far bigger wages than Championship teams like Huddersfield are able to pay. Acknowledge that and those going, "why arent we in for OBrien/Toffolo...we're a shambolic mess" get their answer. I think there may have been one of two stories behind this move. 1. Blackburn were willing to pay his wages in full and WBA were not... or 2. The corrupt dick-swinging (my dick's bigger than yours) owner of Notts Forest said that whoever wanted him has to pay his wages in full. That after spending hundreds of millions, signing over 20 players last summer and having Lingard on £200,000 per week, a bit of a cuntish thing to do.
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Post by ruggedivy on Feb 2, 2023 16:53:36 GMT 1
Shows what a shit show it as at Forest..they're buying players by the dozen then buying more players to replace those they bought earlier and then trying to offload in any way they can because they can't have squad numbers in the 100's... i can't imagine how much cash they've spaffed and what their losses will be at the end of the year. This scattergun approach to building a team is bizarre, Cooper appears to be overwhelmed by the resources the owner has given him, like a kid in a sweet shop after being given £5 for their birthday... As for O'Brien..well he'll still be earning £1m plus a year , maybe £2m pa..which in the end is what it's all about in the short life of a footballer..it buys you a secure future having that sort of cash in the bank..will he be bothered he'll be playing 2nd team football ? I don't know the lad but if it were me I'd just be thinking , keep paying me guys, you've fooked up .. One things for sure - they are up shit creek if they go down
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Post by prepare on Feb 2, 2023 17:10:15 GMT 1
Realise what? That premier league teams pay far bigger wages than championship teams? I don't think anybody on here would doubt that. Your condescending posts are getting quite boring now. read the post you numpty I was talking about the difference the championship not the prem dear me
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Post by Captainslapper on Feb 2, 2023 17:56:26 GMT 1
Feel for Obrien there. Looks like hes been mucked about no end between the clubs involved and isnt going to be eligible to play at all now. There again, £22k a week for doing knack all isnt bad!
Did Toffolo get a move? Not heard owt but he was linked to Anderlecht. If not , has he made Forests list of players they can use?
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Post by tepidterrier on Feb 2, 2023 18:00:04 GMT 1
Grass is always greener eh. Got to feel for Lewis that's dreadful treatment, far worse than we've doled out to players who've actually done things wrong
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Post by terriersyndrome on Feb 2, 2023 18:03:35 GMT 1
Some people think our fans are giving Bromby a rough ride. The Blackburn fans have got their knives out for Broughton big time over this.
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Post by Dan on Feb 2, 2023 18:08:05 GMT 1
Feel for Obrien there. Looks like hes been mucked about no end between the clubs involved and isnt going to be eligible to play at all now. There again, £22k a week for doing knack all isnt bad! Did Toffolo get a move? Not heard owt but he was linked to Anderlecht. If not , has he made Forests list of players they can use? Toffolo was in Brussels signing for Anderlecht, then Forest realised their 2nd choice left back is out injured for longer than they'd thought, so Toffolo's move was cancelled and he's got to sit on the bench for the rest of the season, whilst Lewis is sat in the stands.
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Post by tepidterrier on Feb 2, 2023 18:08:26 GMT 1
Some people think our fans are giving Bromby a rough ride. The Blackburn fans have got their knives out for Broughton big time over this. spare a thought for Swansea fans. 0 signings, even Cardiff got more and they were under embargo
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Feb 2, 2023 18:41:59 GMT 1
Some people think our fans are giving Bromby a rough ride. The Blackburn fans have got their knives out for Broughton big time over this. spare a thought for Swansea fans. 0 signings, even Cardiff got more and they were under embargo Saw something on Twitter a few days ago where some of their fans were unhappy with Julian Winter & Josh Marsh. Now where have I heard that before?
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Post by richhtfc on Feb 2, 2023 18:46:57 GMT 1
I blame whoever created the Ron Weasley song for him not coming back here 😃
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Post by Porrohman on Feb 2, 2023 20:56:17 GMT 1
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Post by richhtfc on Feb 2, 2023 21:14:23 GMT 1
I blame whoever created the Ron Weasley song for him not coming back here 😃 In all seriousness I feel for him, Forest have fucked him over.
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Post by Porrohman on Feb 2, 2023 22:35:28 GMT 1
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Post by space hardware on Feb 2, 2023 22:44:55 GMT 1
"I've been following since 2009" 😂 Pipe down, knob jockey
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Post by terrier10 on Feb 2, 2023 22:50:08 GMT 1
By Alan Nixon Blackburn Rovers have been turned down by the EFL in their bid to sign midfielder Lewis O’Brien from Nottingham Forest. Stunned Rovers submitted their case to explain why some paperwork was missing in the loan transfer but the board rejected their claims. Now furious O’Brien will return to Forest where he may not be in their Premier League squad and possibly playing under-21 football for the rest of the season. Blackburn have seven days to lodge an appeal and are expected to do so. And Rovers will face calls from angry fans for heads to roll after a deal that could have helped them make the play offs collapses. The focus will turn to how the mistake was made with two administrative staff on hand to finalise the transfer after O’Brien passed a medical. Leading officials Steve Waggott and Sohail Pascha were at the FA Cup tie in Birmingham while the potential £10 million move was going through in Lancashire. Secretary Ian Silvester was left to send across the relevant forms. The club put together their case and the reasons why there was a delay. However the EFL stuck to their rule book. With the transfer being potentially the biggest of the season in the EFL there really was no room for errors. It is a devastating blow for coach Jon Dahl Tomasson who wanted O’Brien in his team for the Wigan game on Monday. After a frustrating window Rovers have only landed Sorba Thomas from Huddersfield. Tomasson pleaded with his bosses not to waste a window…but that is exactly what they have done.
Nixon has followed up straight away with this:
By Alan Nixon Lewis O’Brien’s nightmare day just got worse with Nottingham Forest leaving him out of their Premier League squad. Midfielder O’Brien has dropped out of the group named by Steve Cooper for the rest of the season and can now only play under-23 games. It is a savage setback just hours after the EFL said no to Blackburn’s but to have O’Brien registered on loan before the deadline. Rovers have seven days to appeal against that decision but their chances of success seem limited. And the situation is just as horrific for O’Brien who is now facing life in the ‘stiffs’ rather than chasing promotion with Blackburn.
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