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Post by boooothy on Jan 30, 2023 10:03:35 GMT 1
We’re capable of clean sheets in all 3 games So 3 draws then?! We barely ever look like scoring a goal right now......and sat never looked like it. You cant keep relying on faultless defending to eke out a draw - we are in a mess and rab hasnt a clue how to turn it round. Im resigned to league 1 after sat - hope im wrong but cant see where we put a 3 or 4 game winning run together to lift us out given we are playing catch up big time. Most depressing on sat was the acceptance of we are crap on and off the pitch. No fight on it and not even anger off it anymore. We are in agreement with the sentiment but these 3 games are winnable. They’d be winnable if it was Bradford City playing these 3 teams. The bookies also think there is a good chance we get points. These teams teams are as bad as us and will probably give us a couple of goals with no effort. |
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Post by duncfost01 on Jan 30, 2023 10:14:09 GMT 1
Bromby - has to go
The loan signings.
Anjorin - unlucky but we knew he was injury prone - risk
Mbate - Too young.
KKH - Was just starting to get to grips with the championship - sent back.
Lowton - old. No better than Turton who they must have known was nearly back. - why not a left-back ?
Kamberi - not a loan but looks poor.
Waghorn - I remember laughing when he missed from a foot (for Leicester I think against us In the cup) and thinking how shit is he. - Jesus wept
Huggy - Not seen enough to judge but looked tidy on the ball. Didn't press though.
I feel like ive missed somebody...
Knockart - hasn't played more than 60 minutes in a game for 18 months - arrived injured - what a joke.
Sorba - Appalling decision. If he wanted to go it should've been 5 million or jog on. Not a bloody loan.
These are just some of the reasons why I would sack Bromby at midnight tomorrow night.
Fotheringham.- has to go
Apart from being very defensive I haven't seen a plan.
Camara - Why isn't he playing ?
High - didn't get a game at rotherham - yet gets straight into the team.- why ?
Ondo - why was he even in the 11 - he clearly wasn't ready.
Simpson - where has he gone ? easing him in - then he just disappeared.
Kasuma - what's he done wrong ?
Jackson - much better than ruffles going forward -so clearly the better player to play with 3 centre backs.- just disappeared.
Three centre backs. It only seems to be used by teams in trouble defensively. I would play 4-2-3-1.
Bilo (looks assured but remember he is young)
Turton Helik Pearson Lees (we dont have a left back)
Hogg Kasuma
Huggy Camara Rudhoni
Rhodes
And lets be honest that looks as weak as fuck.
shit times.
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Post by boooothy on Jan 30, 2023 10:20:23 GMT 1
Bromby - has to go The loan signings. Anjorin - unlucky but we knew he was injury prone - risk Mbate - Too young. KKH - Was just starting to get to grips with the championship - sent back. Lowton - old. No better than Turton who they must have known was nearly back. - why not a left-back ? Kamberi - not a loan but looks poor. Waghorn - I remember laughing when he missed from a foot (for Leicester I think against us In the cup) and thinking how shit is he. - Jesus wept Huggy - Not seen enough to judge but looked tidy on the ball. Didn't press though. I feel like ive missed somebody... Knockart - hasn't played more than 60 minutes in a game for 18 months - arrived injured - what a joke. Sorba - Appalling decision. If he wanted to go it should've been 5 million or jog on. Not a bloody loan. These are just some of the reasons why I would sack Bromby at midnight tomorrow night. Fotheringham.- has to go Apart from being very defensive I haven't seen a plan. Camara - Why isn't he playing ? High - didn't get a game at rotherham - yet gets straight into the team.- why ? Ondo - why was he even in the 11 - he clearly wasn't ready. Simpson - where has he gone ? easing him in - then he just disappeared. Kasuma - what's he done wrong ? Jackson - much better than ruffles going forward -so clearly the better player to play with 3 centre backs.- just disappeared. Three centre backs. It only seems to be used by teams in trouble defensively. I would play 4-2-3-1. Bilo (looks assured but remember he is young) Turton Helik Pearson Lees (we dont have a left back) Hogg Kasuma Huggy Camara Rudhoni Rhodes And lets be honest that looks as weak as fuck. shit times. I’m far from defending anyone but did you think those loans were a disaster at the time? I didn’t. Mbete played against Barcelona the week before we signed him. |
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Post by mosher on Feb 3, 2023 12:03:58 GMT 1
Let's compromise and get rid of Fozza only. Bring Jacko back I think maybe Jacko's time has gone now, but I like the thought of an ex player who loves the club. How about Mark Lillis? Or Danny Schofield?  |
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Post by morleyterrier on Feb 3, 2023 12:20:39 GMT 1
I think I must be the only one left on here who is still backing Fotheringham and thinks he will keep us up.
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Post by Captainslapper on Feb 3, 2023 12:25:54 GMT 1
I think I must be the only one left on here who is still backing Fotheringham and thinks he will keep us up. Me and you mate. Two beacons of stoic positivity in a sea of exaggerated negativity! Fotheringham will keep us up, but Id be very surprised if hes still our manager next season anyway. |
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Post by morleyterrier on Feb 3, 2023 13:04:47 GMT 1
I think I must be the only one left on here who is still backing Fotheringham and thinks he will keep us up. Me and you mate. Two beacons of stoic positivity in a sea of exaggerated negativity! Fotheringham will keep us up, but Id be very surprised if hes still our manager next season anyway. Yes that's us!. He took over a desperate situation. I have no idea if he had a full pre-season and wasn't inheriting a Team with a 37 game season to get enough points if he would have us playing differently, more on the front foot. The threat of relegation has been there for him from the off, he hasn't had the luxury of managing us in a different situation. |
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Post by Sparrow on Feb 3, 2023 13:10:16 GMT 1
I think I must be the only one left on here who is still backing Fotheringham and thinks he will keep us up. Me and you mate. Two beacons of stoic positivity in a sea of exaggerated negativity! Fotheringham will keep us up, but Id be very surprised if hes still our manager next season anyway. Make that 3 of us. The players are still with him, still like and still believe we will get out of trouble. |
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Post by Captainslapper on Feb 3, 2023 13:13:23 GMT 1
Me and you mate. Two beacons of stoic positivity in a sea of exaggerated negativity! Fotheringham will keep us up, but Id be very surprised if hes still our manager next season anyway. Yes that's us!. He took over a desperate situation. I have no idea if he had a full pre-season and wasn't inheriting a Team with a 37 game season to get enough points if he would have us playing differently, more on the front foot. The threat of relegation has been there for him from the off, he hasn't had the luxury of managing us in a different situation. Or without a lot of injuries to contend with,, until now really. Who knows what he'd do next season in very different circumstances? I just cant see he'll be given the chance. Presuming the club is sold to new owners sometime this summer, if not before, then chances are they'll want 'their' man at the helm. Keeping us up would be an achievement but dont think he'd have done it so well that he'd have much of an argument for keeping his job. The club ( and any new owner ) will be aware of what most of the fans think of him...although you could have said the same about Corboran after his first season here to be fair. He was incompetent, doesnt know what hes doing, tactically inept, difficult to understand, needs sacking, cheap option gone wrong, etc etc etc, according to almost all the people who are saying the same things about Fotheringham now, whilst now thinking Corboran is what happens when Alex Ferguson and Pep Guardiola have a child together! |
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Post by goodbet on Feb 3, 2023 13:24:31 GMT 1
Yes that's us!. He took over a desperate situation. I have no idea if he had a full pre-season and wasn't inheriting a Team with a 37 game season to get enough points if he would have us playing differently, more on the front foot. The threat of relegation has been there for him from the off, he hasn't had the luxury of managing us in a different situation. Or without a lot of injuries to contend with,, until now really. Who knows what he'd do next season in very different circumstances? I just cant see he'll be given the chance. Presuming the club is sold to new owners sometime this summer, if not before, then chances are they'll want 'their' man at the helm. Keeping us up would be an achievement but dont think he'd have done it so well that he'd have much of an argument for keeping his job. The club ( and any new owner ) will be aware of what most of the fans think of him...although you could have said the same about Corboran after his first season here to be fair. He was incompetent, doesnt know what hes doing, tactically inept, difficult to understand, needs sacking, cheap option gone wrong, etc etc etc, according to almost all the people who are saying the same things about Fotheringham now, whilst now thinking Corboran is what happens when Alex Ferguson and Pep Guardiola have a child together! You have overlooked MF's odd team selections, his lack of tactical awareness, lack of flexibility and strange substitutions that often come too late. It is not his accent that people don't take too as you mentioned earlier, it is the nonsense that comes out of his mouth. I agree that we have improved from when Scofield was in charge but that was such a low bar putting just about anyone in charge would have seen an improvement. Lets hope that we don't go behind and he sticks with 5 at the back and keeps two holding midfielders in the team. But we know that the team will be full of what MF thinks are good trainers whatever they do on the field of play. |
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Post by stinkypete on Feb 3, 2023 13:28:41 GMT 1
I don’t think the fact he’s coming across as a complete buffoon and David Brent on acid is helping his cause.
Anyone backing him after that Coventry performance is very very patient.
I think backing him is not wanting to admit the saviour has ballsed up again!
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Post by specialun on Feb 3, 2023 13:41:19 GMT 1
I think I must be the only one left on here who is still backing Fotheringham and thinks he will keep us up. I think we can stay up with him as coach - but if we stay up it won’t be a case of ‘he will keep us up’ it’ll be in spite of him rather than because of him Teams / squad much weaker than last season but far stronger than current position in a weak league |
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Post by Tinpot on Feb 3, 2023 14:23:40 GMT 1
Yes that's us!. He took over a desperate situation. I have no idea if he had a full pre-season and wasn't inheriting a Team with a 37 game season to get enough points if he would have us playing differently, more on the front foot. The threat of relegation has been there for him from the off, he hasn't had the luxury of managing us in a different situation. Or without a lot of injuries to contend with,, until now really. Who knows what he'd do next season in very different circumstances? I just cant see he'll be given the chance. Presuming the club is sold to new owners sometime this summer, if not before, then chances are they'll want 'their' man at the helm. Keeping us up would be an achievement but dont think he'd have done it so well that he'd have much of an argument for keeping his job. The club ( and any new owner ) will be aware of what most of the fans think of him...although you could have said the same about Corboran after his first season here to be fair. He was incompetent, doesnt know what hes doing, tactically inept, difficult to understand, needs sacking, cheap option gone wrong, etc etc etc, according to almost all the people who are saying the same things about Fotheringham now, whilst now thinking Corboran is what happens when Alex Ferguson and Pep Guardiola have a child together!Well, there's a mental image I didn't need on my lunch break! (not sure I want that sausage now) |
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Post by mosher on Feb 3, 2023 14:23:53 GMT 1
I think I must be the only one left on here who is still backing Fotheringham and thinks he will keep us up. Wouldn't say I was backing him exactly, but I still think we're staying up. Delusional (to some) I know but I still believe. |
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Post by Tinpot on Feb 3, 2023 14:29:40 GMT 1
When you look at the squad on paper we should have plenty to stay up. I just don't think we will.
Last season I recall somebody saying that a lot of the difference between success & failure in this division is simply having your shit together. Whilst that was a self congratulatory post as we overachieved last season, the same is true now as we underachieve.
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Post by 3Pipe on Feb 3, 2023 14:42:48 GMT 1
I'd be amazed if we don't go down. Potless, rudderless and clueless.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Feb 3, 2023 14:47:06 GMT 1
When you look at the squad on paper we should have plenty to stay up. I just don't think we will. Last season I recall somebody saying that a lot of the difference between success & failure in this division is simply having your shit together. Whilst that was a self congratulatory post as we overachieved last season, the same is true now as we underachieve. I think you can 'make some of your own luck' and we certainly did last season. We are playing the percentages badly this season. Most of it is obvious, losing your man outside the box is less dangerous than inside etc, more shots, more deflections etc..put every free kick you get up the pitch directly onto or into the opposition box.. Clear the ball inside or near your own box, dont pass it short or try anything clever. Lots of very simple stuff that we did but fail to do now. We did drop off last season but not as deep as we are prone to do now. We had periods of pressing last season, dont see it much if at all now. Might just be lacking a bit of bravery in our tactics and game plans, but the truth is we do concede as we are playing now so going more defensively( if thats possible) restricts the chances of winning even further. Dont believe we can win enough points by occasionally scoring this season. |
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Post by benhomly on Feb 3, 2023 14:53:39 GMT 1
I think I must be the only one left on here who is still backing Fotheringham and thinks he will keep us up. I'm wavering but tomorrow's team selection will make my mind up for me. Five at the back with 2 full backs who aren't wing backs and I'm definitely on the we're doomed side of the fence. Oh and if he picks Scott High as well then that will only enforce my opinion. |
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Post by Captainslapper on Feb 3, 2023 14:57:54 GMT 1
I don’t think the fact he’s coming across as a complete buffoon and David Brent on acid is helping his cause. Anyone backing him after that Coventry performance is very very patient. I think backing him is not wanting to admit the saviour has ballsed up again!No its not. It being willing to wait until its shown whether the saviour has ballsed up again. If we dont go down then Fotheringham will have achieved his directive and the appointment can be seen as a successful one for that reason, regardless of all the criticism about style, selections, interviews etc. hes not brilliant but the truth is we could have appointed someone worse... there are quite a few managers in this division who have gained fewer points than ours has over the last quarter/ third of a season. So those making out hes the worst manager in the world might want to chat to their fans and see if they agree! |
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Post by ACW on Feb 3, 2023 15:01:52 GMT 1
I think I must be the only one left on here who is still backing Fotheringham and thinks he will keep us up. I'm wavering but tomorrow's team selection will make my mind up for me. Five at the back with 2 full backs who aren't wing backs and I'm definitely on the we're doomed side of the fence. Oh and if he picks Scott High as well then that will only enforce my opinion. I think Fotheringham has the players to keep us up. The trouble is, he's not picking a few of them. |
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Post by dugnet on Feb 3, 2023 15:08:47 GMT 1
I hope he keeps us up. What I am witnessing on the pitch (I have given up listening to the dopey rhetoric) is very difficult to get behind.
We are where we are, what I think is of little consequence. My main hope is that we don't get ourselves in a worse position before we have a new direction. MF has a significant influence on that so why wouldn't I want him to succeed?
Do I think MF is up to the task? The best answer I can offer is that he hasn't won my confidence.
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Post by stinkypete on Feb 3, 2023 16:03:43 GMT 1
I don’t think the fact he’s coming across as a complete buffoon and David Brent on acid is helping his cause. Anyone backing him after that Coventry performance is very very patient. I think backing him is not wanting to admit the saviour has ballsed up again!No its not. It being willing to wait until its shown whether the saviour has ballsed up again. If we dont go down then Fotheringham will have achieved his directive and the appointment can be seen as a successful one for that reason, regardless of all the criticism about style, selections, interviews etc. hes not brilliant but the truth is we could have appointed someone worse... there are quite a few managers in this division who have gained fewer points than ours has over the last quarter/ third of a season. So those making out hes the worst manager in the world might want to chat to their fans and see if they agree! Hmmm we’ll see, I think the players will be the ones that keep us up (IF we stay up) due to professional pride , we can’t ignore the ‘in the know’ folk on here that say he’s universally not liked by the players. A poor defeat tomorrow and I think his number is up (or should be), we can dress up stats to suit our arguments all we want but the fact remains he still hasn’t pulled us out of the bottom 3 after nearly half a season and a mini pre season. He talks nonsense and is an embarrassment to the club IMO. Hope he massively proves everyone (apart from you) wrong and we go on a 6 game winning run. |
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Post by 28901 on Feb 3, 2023 21:03:18 GMT 1
Yes that's us!. He took over a desperate situation. I have no idea if he had a full pre-season and wasn't inheriting a Team with a 37 game season to get enough points if he would have us playing differently, more on the front foot. The threat of relegation has been there for him from the off, he hasn't had the luxury of managing us in a different situation. Or without a lot of injuries to contend with,, until now really. Who knows what he'd do next season in very different circumstances? I just cant see he'll be given the chance. Presuming the club is sold to new owners sometime this summer, if not before, then chances are they'll want 'their' man at the helm. Keeping us up would be an achievement but dont think he'd have done it so well that he'd have much of an argument for keeping his job. The club ( and any new owner ) will be aware of what most of the fans think of him...although you could have said the same about Corboran after his first season here to be fair. He was incompetent, doesnt know what hes doing, tactically inept, difficult to understand, needs sacking, cheap option gone wrong, etc etc etc, according to almost all the people who are saying the same things about Fotheringham now, whilst now thinking Corboran is what happens when Alex Ferguson and Pep Guardiola have a child together! The comments about Corberan first season were nothing like the comments about Fotheringham. We were very good first half of the season, scored some terrific goals. Even at the lowest ebb with the injuries and the constant defeats in the empty ground he didn't get the grief this guy gets. |
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