wildhogg
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Post by wildhogg on Jan 28, 2023 21:16:55 GMT 1
He's definitely not a fraud. Fraudsters are excellent at blagging and usually have a lot of charm as a strategy for covering up deficiencies and conning. MMF has all the charm of a rotting teddy bear at a graveside.
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Jan 28, 2023 21:19:14 GMT 1
We're in limbo and it feels like we're rudderless. These are tough times.
My positivity has taken a big hit today.
I love Town and Town supporters but accept that my posts can rile other supporters who feel a lot of anger.
I'm imposing a ban on myself until March 1st as it gives me no pleasure to continue posting as things stand.
I'm still hopeful but accept that I'm in the minority on here.
As the youngsters would say, peace out
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goodbet
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Post by goodbet on Jan 28, 2023 21:23:24 GMT 1
Obviously over qualified. agree what tactics would the use !! Pardon? Whatever tactics you start with you may want to change from 5 at the back and 2 holding midfielders when you go behind. That is if you wasn't to take anything from the game. |
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henryc
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Post by henryc on Jan 28, 2023 21:24:24 GMT 1
Come off it mate, your only defence is to try and insinuate people are mocking Hoyles health when they’re not. You then call those who are disgruntled vultures whilst playing another victim card that you’re being insulted. Maybe have a think about your last line yourself. Some definitely are but my 'only defence' of what? Don't worry about me. I know who the reasonable and balanced adults are on here I meant your only defence against those that criticise the club, and maybe I’ve missed it but I haven’t seen anyone being disrespectful of his illness. Honestly mate this is a football club what’s purpose is to provide a bit of release to its fans after a hard weeks work, it’s the nature of the beast and anyone that gets involved with it, be that player, manager or owner knows that there’s higher emotions and demands than in any other walk of life. Im actually quite proud that there’s still passion left in our fan base considering we achieved what many thought we never would, only to then watch it all be pissed away through extreme incompetence at best. |
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Post by rockwall on Jan 28, 2023 21:27:13 GMT 1
We're in limbo and it feels like we're rudderless. These are tough times. My positivity has taken a big hit today. I love Town and Town supporters but accept that my posts can rile other supporters who feel a lot of anger. I'm imposing a ban on myself until March 1st as it gives me no pleasure to continue posting as things stand. I'm still hopeful but accept that I'm in the minority on here. As the youngsters would say, peace out It is fine to be in a minority Pete. You're opinions are absolutely fine. I think though what gets backs up is you revert to Deans health at any opportunity. |
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Post by space hardware on Jan 28, 2023 21:31:13 GMT 1
agree what tactics would they use !! answers on a stamp!! Qué? |
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Post by 3Pipe on Jan 28, 2023 21:32:21 GMT 1
Peace out Pete homie. Ya daft wassock.   |
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Post by griffa on Jan 28, 2023 21:37:11 GMT 1
All the evidence that we've seen, seems to support what you say, even though it pays me to say it. In fairness, he does need to be given a few matches more (given the new acquisitions) to be judged objectively. The timing is not good though :-( Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo - P45 & a taxi for Mark & Kenny - UTT. |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Jan 28, 2023 21:45:20 GMT 1
I'm not bashing Rhodes because he tries but he just shouldn't be starting at this level anymore. The only thing he offers outside the box is winning the occasional cheap free kick when he dives from a slight touch in the back.
He can't move quick enough to get to any pass which isn't played to him somewhat accurately. The defender just strolls past him and takes the ball.
Compare it to Gyorkeres who was receiving it short, running in behind, taking players on, dragging defenders all over the place. I suspect if you swapped Rhodes and Holmes for Palmer and Gyorkeres we probably win that game
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Post by tepidterrier on Jan 28, 2023 21:45:28 GMT 1
can we delete the thread pls looks like I've made a separate one to post my own assessment!
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wigster
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Post by wigster on Jan 28, 2023 21:49:37 GMT 1
To be fair to Rhodes, he never stopped running.
Totally in vain and with next to no support.
He did ok with one header where the cross was way behind him but it didn't really trouble the goalie - some of our crossing was absolutely pitiful.
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Post by shawsie on Jan 28, 2023 21:50:29 GMT 1
Our tactics are so one dimensional.
We never set up to win today - started ok actually but just got worse.
No threat whatsoever - absolutely zero midfield creativity (high a passenger) and the less said about ruffles the better. He is and was nowhere near this standard.
Pearson on the left side of centre backs? Strange to me.
Rudoni - same promising glimpses but no end product.
Rhodes - dreadful.
Something radical needed - on that performance no way we are staying up.
Coventry were miles better than us 2nd half - they wanted to win and it showed-we were tentative, passive abd generally just shite.
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Post by stevvy on Jan 28, 2023 21:53:12 GMT 1
I know we nearly got promoted last season, but it's fucking criminal that May 2019 we were just finishing our 2nd season in the PL (relegated admittedly) and since then it's been relegation battle, followed by relegation battle, followed by near promotion, followed by what looks like an increasingly inevitable relegation just 4 years after getting relegated from the PL.
We lost today and I think my brother summed it up well when he said there was no anger, just apathy.
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ldr
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Post by ldr on Jan 28, 2023 21:56:30 GMT 1
Has anybody on here done any coaching? At any level? It is fucking horrendous and I’ve only stepped in a few times and coached matches for kids. It is without doubt, the hardest thing I’ve done. Playing is great, sidelines is shit.
Saying that, MF is useless.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2023 21:59:14 GMT 1
can we delete the thread pls looks like I've made a separate one to post my own assessment! Was it so difficult to find the match thread? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2023 22:00:00 GMT 1
MF & Bromby won't, IMHO, be going. If they were it would be before the window, not near the very end of it.
I think Dean Hoyle must be thoroughly worn out by it all now. He wants to get Phil's shares transferred, the ownership issue to go through the EFL process and get the stadium in the hands of the club. If he could do that tomorrow and get a buyer I am sure he would be delighted. He has put Dave Baldwin in charge but more for sorting out the shares, stadium and sale than run the club, I think. All the time he is having to put more of his money in to prop it up whilst getting slagged off on social media. He has both hands firmly around the poisoned chalice that is owning a football club.
Unless something miraculous happens with the squad I think we will limp on until the end of the season as we are. We may escape the drop, there are other poor teams in similar situations, but it does not feel like it will be much fun at all, for the staff, the players or us.
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ldr
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Post by ldr on Jan 28, 2023 22:00:42 GMT 1
We're in limbo and it feels like we're rudderless. These are tough times. My positivity has taken a big hit today. I love Town and Town supporters but accept that my posts can rile other supporters who feel a lot of anger. I'm imposing a ban on myself until March 1st as it gives me no pleasure to continue posting as things stand. I'm still hopeful but accept that I'm in the minority on here. As the youngsters would say, peace out Don’t. Please stay. I’m just back from an hiatus and I’ve realized that I miss it. Good times or shit, this is a forum for a diverse selection of folk connected by our love of Town. The forum is a better place if you stick around Pete. |
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Post by Teddington Ted on Jan 28, 2023 22:02:18 GMT 1
We're in limbo and it feels like we're rudderless. These are tough times. My positivity has taken a big hit today. I love Town and Town supporters but accept that my posts can rile other supporters who feel a lot of anger. I'm imposing a ban on myself until March 1st as it gives me no pleasure to continue posting as things stand. I'm still hopeful but accept that I'm in the minority on here. As the youngsters would say, peace out Don’t go Pete! Nobody should have to watch Town without a vast support network of dimwits only a few clicks away!! |
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ben1987
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Post by ben1987 on Jan 28, 2023 22:03:34 GMT 1
“I've been a fan my whole life and like them (the fans), I'm embarrassed, humiliated and shocked by the results. "Since coming back from the World Cup our form, other than one or two games, has been poor. Some of the players also need to take responsibility. "For me personally, I'm a fan and I'm 64 now. I've been going for nearly 60 years. I take responsibility. "At the end of the day, I'm the chairman of the club and I've overseen, on the football side, the changes we've made. "They deserve better than that. I'm absolutely determined to get this right and we will double down with the board our vision and our strategy across the club” Aberdeen’s Chairman after sacking Jim Goodwin today. Oh to hear some genuine leadership, ownership of the issues & taking of responsibility from our board. Instead, we get silence, a manager spouting bollocks and a club on free fall back into League 1. I posted the video link on another thread earlier basically saying similar. How we wish our custodians had the same size bollocks as the Aberdeen chairman, have some front and speak up. Nah, not ours. Silent, hidden, anonymous. Only appears when we are winning, carrying a message or jacking. 16k season tickets sold for this season, I bet we don’t sell more than 10k for next. The entire soul has gone, it lays on Hoyles doorstep smouldering away with nobody willing to put the fire out. Right now, we are vessel out at a stormy sea with no engine, no sails, no oars and no life boats. There we are drifting away into obscurity as all 16k of us look up at the captain waiting for some direction or some sort of plan and yet all there is, is pure and utter silence. Every single person who doesn’t see the problems is part of it. No soul, no identity, no spirit, no fight, no care. It’s time fans turn their apathy into actions because this is no longer acceptable. |
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Post by 4 pts on Jan 28, 2023 22:05:05 GMT 1
Both are branded "chancers" on here and its not too difficult to see why.
Both have landed on their feet and both have been given the most important roles within the club.
It actually beggars belief that anyone actually read their CV's, never mind allowed them through the front door.
A failed soccer school owner and a man that was probably rejected by a Highland football league club
Its like some sort of sick joke that only those at boardroom level find amusing......either that or at some point this season Bobby fuckin Ewings going to draw the half time golden gamble
Remove both from the building asap.
Give Narcis the job and forget about a DOF until the end of the season.
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Post by shawsie on Jan 28, 2023 22:05:49 GMT 1
Leadership comes from the top.
DH has an autocratic leadership style - as such the buck stops with him given the current majority shareholder no longer seemingly comes to games. Hes lucky right now not having to watch it to be fair.
Several yrs ago MF would have had anger aimed at him during and after the game - today nothing more than a few grumbles. Fans are increasingly resigned to league 1 - some harsh words behind closed doors required.
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Jimuano
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Post by Jimuano on Jan 28, 2023 22:07:09 GMT 1
We're desperate for a change.
Carrying on like this we'll be down sooner rather than later.
BUT- I think we are stuck with them both until the end of the season at least, so I'm expecting little to change on the field.
Fotheringham can clearly motivate, but if he hasn't got the correct systems or instructions across or players just aren't good enough, getting them running hard and putting lots of effort in isn't going to do much.
If the 2 are relieved of their duties, the coach job will go to Worthington, who will be out on his arse as per Schofield after a poor run. Then what?
It won't be difficult to find a replacement for Bromby.
We come across as a mickey mouse operation, with an owner who has given up -
A shoestring budget manager, provided with shoestring cheaper than cheap players (some of which are injured for a while). Matchdays are painful.
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Post by thomo on Jan 28, 2023 22:10:38 GMT 1
MF & Bromby won't, IMHO, be going. If they were it would be before the window, not near the very end of it. I think Dean Hoyle must be thoroughly worn out by it all now. He wants to get Phil's shares transferred, the ownership issue to go through the EFL process and get the stadium in the hands of the club. If he could do that tomorrow and get a buyer I am sure he would be delighted. He has put Dave Baldwin in charge but more for sorting out the shares, stadium and sale than run the club, I think. All the time he is having to put more of his money in to prop it up whilst getting slagged off on social media. He has both hands firmly around the poisoned chalice that is owning a football club. Unless something miraculous happens with the squad I think we will limp on until the end of the season as we are. We may escape the drop, there are other poor teams in similar situations, but it does not feel like it will be much fun at all, for the staff, the players or us. You reap what you sow |
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Post by boooothy on Jan 28, 2023 22:12:35 GMT 1
There’s no point bitching. This is what we’ve got. We’ve doubled down on this decision (a bad one). Just do what you can, get behind them and hope we get lucky.
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Post by boooothy on Jan 28, 2023 22:21:49 GMT 1
Both are branded "chancers" on here and its not too difficult to see why. Both have landed on their feet and both have been given the most important roles within the club. It actually beggars belief that anyone actually read their CV's, never mind allowed them through the front door. A failed soccer school owner and a man that was probably rejected by a Highland football league club Its like some sort of sick joke that only those at boardroom level find amusing......either that or at some point this season Bobby fuckin Ewings going to draw the half time golden gamble Remove both from the building asap. Give Narcis the job and forget about a DOF until the end of the season. Amazes me Narcis gets a free ride, he’s probably the only constant in this shit show of a season. |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Jan 28, 2023 22:23:46 GMT 1
The Preston and Rotherham victories gave everyone false hope but we just haven't built on them, although it's not unexpected though it it? Resigned to League One, question is do I renew my season ticket, the constant season ticket I've had since 87/88.
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Post by VLP Fan Club on Jan 28, 2023 22:28:16 GMT 1
Bromby, Hoyle, Fotheringham and Prepare can all quite frankly fuck off
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Post by 4 pts on Jan 28, 2023 22:30:09 GMT 1
Both are branded "chancers" on here and its not too difficult to see why. Both have landed on their feet and both have been given the most important roles within the club. It actually beggars belief that anyone actually read their CV's, never mind allowed them through the front door. A failed soccer school owner and a man that was probably rejected by a Highland football league club Its like some sort of sick joke that only those at boardroom level find amusing......either that or at some point this season Bobby fuckin Ewings going to draw the half time golden gamble Remove both from the building asap. Give Narcis the job and forget about a DOF until the end of the season. Amazes me Narcis gets a free ride, he’s probably the only constant in this shit show of a season. Yet under HIS management. we probably saw the best performance from this set of players this season |
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Post by haveitback on Jan 28, 2023 22:34:03 GMT 1
I've emailed the club enforcing my dismay at the state of affairs and piss poor management from top to bottom, it probably won't make any difference at all but it might take note if we all emailed.
If fans are still gonna turn up on a Saturday to watch this shite then the club will just laugh, we as fans need to show our anger at the situation, not just post on here,
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goodbet
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Post by goodbet on Jan 28, 2023 22:37:16 GMT 1
There’s no point bitching. This is what we’ve got. We’ve doubled down on this decision (a bad one). Just do what you can, get behind them and hope we get lucky. O |
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