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Post by Essex Terrier on Jan 29, 2023 19:43:05 GMT 1
No.
We need to stop children creating, and commenting on, adult subjects.
Other views *are* available.
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Post by El Mel on Jan 29, 2023 20:01:10 GMT 1
Administration might be the best option for the club. If Phil doesn’t want to give up what is unrightfully his, Dean, as the clubs biggest creditor could put it into admin. Of course, the Administrators for Mr Hodgkinsons company won’t be happy, as they are probably trying to do the same thing. I’m afraid the best route out of this situation might not be pretty. Do you not think admin might be in the clubs best interest longer term but Dean is pumping in just enough to avoid it because admin is not in his interests. He seems reluctant to write off his investment even though common sense would say no one will ever stump up £40 million for a bottom end championship club with no assets. Dean will know he’s never seeing most of his money again, barring a miracle. Admin wouldn’t be the worst option for him would it? He’ll get some of his money back - and get an opportunity to step away from the cash burden that the club is to him. |
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Post by goodbet on Jan 29, 2023 20:15:39 GMT 1
No. We need to stop children creating, and commenting on, adult subjects. Other views *are* available. And I assume that an adult in your view is someone who will be eternally grateful to Dean and never post about anything that even suggests that the club has made a mistake. |
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Post by prepare on Jan 29, 2023 20:27:01 GMT 1
Serious question: what is the point? We are up for sale. We are in the process of finding new owners. What exactly would anyone hope to achieve? A quicker sale? Unlikely to say the least. If anyone thinks people at the club want to be in this position, they need to give their heads a shake. Yes, pretty much every person at the club has made mistakes. But it's been compounded by the complicating factor that the club is still technically owned by Phil Hodgkinson and everything is being slowed up by that. We're in this position where the club has been propped up by someone who doesn't own it, incurring debts that make it less attractive to prospective buyers. So the aim has to be to keep debts down while doing enough on the pitch to attract buyers. That's the reality of the financial situation. People blaming Hoyle for Corberan's leaving need to realise that the above is the main reason we didn't have the money Corberan felt he should have in the summer. If Hodgkinson was around, maybe it would be different, but his financial situation is ultimately the root cause of our issues, and those at the club now are not in a position to deal with it. The whole club has a millstone around its neck until it is resolved. No, the people at the club haven't covered themselves in glory. From the Director of Football Operations down mistakes have been made. We need a reset in terms of personnel, but we can't just get rid of those in place when we're on sale. Bring in someone new and they could be out of the door in moments once the new owner is in. So we're saddled until new ownership arrives ence- hamstrung by the Hodgkinson/Hoyle situation. At that point we can have a clearing of the decks and a resetting. Hopefully whoever comes in clears the debts and has a bit of encmoney behind them to deal with the realities of a drop into League One, with drops in revenue and value. So I say again: what will a protest help? Because it'll change absolutely none of the above. protest won’t make a bit of difference I agree |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jan 29, 2023 21:02:08 GMT 1
I wish to protest about being bored at too many Town games.🤨
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2023 21:08:20 GMT 1
What do we think this will achieve?
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Post by sabailand on Jan 29, 2023 21:08:23 GMT 1
I wish to protest about being bored at too many Town games.🤨 Im not too bothered about being bored at games tbh, as long as we win im an happy bunny, much rather win a borefest than lose a thriller, especially in our current plight. |
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Post by dugnet on Jan 29, 2023 21:31:42 GMT 1
The club is up for sale so the only thing a protest would do is to confirm some people aren't very happy.
The only thing that can be changed now is the head coach. If there is a thought that that maybe required, some would say it is, to positively impact the sale that might happen.
The empty seats on Saturday and the likely morose atmosphere should be protest enough.
I don't sense that those in charge are that concerned about what we think. The focus is on selling the club. What the optimum outcome is anyone's guess now. A few people chanting or something similar isn't going to make a blind bit of difference.
I'm afraid it's sit and suffer
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Post by bluebeard on Jan 29, 2023 21:32:02 GMT 1
I wish to protest about being bored at too many Town games.🤨 I want to protest about the protest! plenty of football clubs have been badly managed in the past and you have to get rid of all the dead wood and start again, a total clear out and that is what we have to do' It is mind boggling how MF has ended up at this club and the most worrying thing is who ever the new owner/owners are it all depends on us staying in the Championship and that will not happen under MF. |
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Post by Teddington Ted on Jan 29, 2023 21:40:55 GMT 1
What are we protesting about? The main damage is done and all involved are trying to move on for a fresh start.
Administration would be a disaster. Yes, we owe most of our money to Hoyle but think of all the small, local suppliers who’d go bust without whatever money we owe them on usual trading? Think of the job losses. Real life hardship, not grumbles about a football team.
The one thing in our favour is the structured deals and guaranteed income from the likes of Grant. That would all go to creditors and damage us in the mid-term.
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Post by kjf on Jan 29, 2023 21:41:51 GMT 1
What are we protesting about? The main damage is done and all involved are trying to move on for a fresh start. Administration would be a disaster. Yes, we owe most of our money to Hoyle but think of all the small, local suppliers who’d go bust without whatever money we owe them on usual trading? Think of the job losses. Real life hardship, not grumbles about a football team. The one thing in our favour is the structured deals and guaranteed income from the likes of Grant. That would all go to creditors and damage us in the mid-term. The board |
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Post by Tinpot on Jan 29, 2023 21:52:18 GMT 1
What do we think this will achieve? That's where I am. I can't see the benefit. The board are selling up. They don't need telling to get out. They're already trying to do that. Fotheringham is shite. But who could we attract that would keep us up in this situation? No decent manager would touch this shit show with a barge pole. Creating a negative atmosphere just makes it even harder to keep us up. And if we go down, we get a worse owner than if we'd stayed up. Best we can do now is get behind the team. Support them until we're mathematically relegated. Which will probably be in mid April, giving us a few games to boo them. Or maybe we get a bit of luck. |
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Post by Essex Terrier on Jan 29, 2023 22:04:36 GMT 1
No. We need to stop children creating, and commenting on, adult subjects. Other views *are* available. And I assume that an adult in your view is someone who will be eternally grateful to Dean and never post about anything that even suggests that the club has made a mistake. Nope. Plenty of childish stuff on here though. I'm out. Enjoy. |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jan 29, 2023 22:20:59 GMT 1
I wish to protest about being bored at too many Town games.🤨 Im not too bothered about being bored at games tbh, as long as we win im an happy bunny, much rather win a borefest than lose a thriller, especially in our current plight. Have to win games that you set out simply to stifle the opposition and sneak something. If not its just adding insult to injury.? |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Jan 29, 2023 22:30:55 GMT 1
Are the hierarchy still even turning up at games?
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Post by space hardware on Jan 29, 2023 22:35:51 GMT 1
Do you not think admin might be in the clubs best interest longer term but Dean is pumping in just enough to avoid it because admin is not in his interests. He seems reluctant to write off his investment even though common sense would say no one will ever stump up £40 million for a bottom end championship club with no assets. Dean will know he’s never seeing most of his money again, barring a miracle. Admin wouldn’t be the worst option for him would it? He’ll get some of his money back - and get an opportunity to step away from the cash burden that the club is to him. He chose to buy the club. He chose Potless as his successor, presumably knowing he didn't have the poke to take the club on. He chose to get involved when Potless ended up defaulting on the grubby little deal they cooked up. It's on him. |
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Post by softboy on Jan 29, 2023 23:30:48 GMT 1
Exactly. Stop putting money in. DH isn’t going to get his money back. Go into administration and most will be content
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Post by El Mel on Jan 29, 2023 23:53:19 GMT 1
Dean will know he’s never seeing most of his money again, barring a miracle. Admin wouldn’t be the worst option for him would it? He’ll get some of his money back - and get an opportunity to step away from the cash burden that the club is to him. He chose to buy the club. He chose Potless as his successor, presumably knowing he didn't have the poke to take the club on. He chose to get involved when Potless ended up defaulting on the grubby little deal they cooked up. It's on him. It is, but he doesn’t owe Town fans a secure future - he’s done his bit, and shown us the good times. |
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Post by goodbet on Jan 29, 2023 23:56:34 GMT 1
He chose to buy the club. He chose Potless as his successor, presumably knowing he didn't have the poke to take the club on. He chose to get involved when Potless ended up defaulting on the grubby little deal they cooked up. It's on him. It is, but he doesn’t owe Town fans a secure future - he’s done his bit, and shown us the good times. You are right he doesn’t owe Town fans a secure future, we have seen good times and enjoyed them and now we are on the brink of something else. |
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Post by goodbet on Jan 29, 2023 23:59:55 GMT 1
And I assume that an adult in your view is someone who will be eternally grateful to Dean and never post about anything that even suggests that the club has made a mistake. Nope. Plenty of childish stuff on here though. I'm out. Enjoy. There are plenty of childish stuff on any board on any subject. I hope to start enjoying the football again sometime. Thanks for all the fish. |
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Post by specialun on Jan 30, 2023 0:03:57 GMT 1
Administration might be the best option for the club. If Phil doesn’t want to give up what is unrightfully his, Dean, as the clubs biggest creditor could put it into admin. Of course, the Administrators for Mr Hodgkinsons company won’t be happy, as they are probably trying to do the same thing. I’m afraid the best route out of this situation might not be pretty. How are you thinking we get out of admin? |
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Post by specialun on Jan 30, 2023 0:07:04 GMT 1
Classic - were suggesting a protest & too many things to protest against to agree what we’re protesting against
Fwiw I’m not sure what a protest achieves as above - short term aim is to survive on the pitch & only thing that can directly impact that is the players & the dugout, too late for the rest - which is already in motion in some sorts
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Post by goodbet on Jan 30, 2023 0:46:33 GMT 1
What do we think this will achieve? That's where I am. I can't see the benefit. The board are selling up. They don't need telling to get out. They're already trying to do that. Fotheringham is shite. But who could we attract that would keep us up in this situation? No decent manager would touch this shit show with a barge pole. Creating a negative atmosphere just makes it even harder to keep us up. And if we go down, we get a worse owner than if we'd stayed up. Best we can do now is get behind the team. Support them until we're mathematically relegated. Which will probably be in mid April, giving us a few games to boo them. Or maybe we get a bit of luck. I think that pointing out where the club can improve is supporting the club. My comments that are mainly negative at the moment only appear on this board and with my mates, it dose not come out in the stadium. I don't expect any negative comment from me or my mates being voiced in the stadium, unless we end up relegated and then I feel the temperature in the stadium will rise somewhat. I suppose it comes down to what you think a supporter is. For some it is sitting in the stadium and accepting whatever the club puts on the field. I believe that as a fan of the club I have bought in to Huddersfield Town and not an owner of the club as we all know that we will be here long after any owner has left. So if I think that if the club is making errors or wasting money on transfers I am at liberty to point this out. The club has shown that it will ignore me and continue making the same poor decisions. I am still a fan and I still support the team and hope that we will manage to stay in the Championship. Some on here think that making negative comments on a here makes me something else, I am not sure what. |
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Post by 3Pipe on Jan 30, 2023 7:09:27 GMT 1
Dean will know he’s never seeing most of his money again, barring a miracle. Admin wouldn’t be the worst option for him would it? He’ll get some of his money back - and get an opportunity to step away from the cash burden that the club is to him. He chose to buy the club. He chose Potless as his successor, presumably knowing he didn't have the poke to take the club on. He chose to get involved when Potless ended up defaulting on the grubby little deal they cooked up. It's on him. He failed to support/get on with 2 of the best managers the club has seen in my lifetime. He commenced stripping the club to bare bones as our equity and position on the football hierarchy plummeted. The list of negative factors that are directly on him goes on... |
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Post by 3Pipe on Jan 30, 2023 7:11:52 GMT 1
Classic - were suggesting a protest & too many things to protest against to agree what we’re protesting against Fwiw I’m not sure what a protest achieves as above - short term aim is to survive on the pitch & only thing that can directly impact that is the players & the dugout, too late for the rest - which is already in motion in some sorts Splitter! |
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Post by stinkypete on Jan 30, 2023 7:37:54 GMT 1
That's where I am. I can't see the benefit. The board are selling up. They don't need telling to get out. They're already trying to do that. Fotheringham is shite. But who could we attract that would keep us up in this situation? No decent manager would touch this shit show with a barge pole. Creating a negative atmosphere just makes it even harder to keep us up. And if we go down, we get a worse owner than if we'd stayed up. Best we can do now is get behind the team. Support them until we're mathematically relegated. Which will probably be in mid April, giving us a few games to boo them. Or maybe we get a bit of luck. I think that pointing out where the club can improve is supporting the club. My comments that are mainly negative at the moment only appear on this board and with my mates, it dose not come out in the stadium. I don't expect any negative comment from me or my mates being voiced in the stadium, unless we end up relegated and then I feel the temperature in the stadium will rise somewhat. I suppose it comes down to what you think a supporter is. For some it is sitting in the stadium and accepting whatever the club puts on the field. I believe that as a fan of the club I have bought in to Huddersfield Town and not an owner of the club as we all know that we will be here long after any owner has left. So if I think that if the club is making errors or wasting money on transfers I am at liberty to point this out. The club has shown that it will ignore me and continue making the same poor decisions. I am still a fan and I still support the team and hope that we will manage to stay in the Championship. Some on here think that making negative comments on a here makes me something else, I am not sure what. Your 3rd paragraph is what some Town fans need to remember. When I first started watching Town I didn’t have a clue who the owner was etc I just supported the team and wanted them to win. Some fans seem to support this owner and want what’s best for him even if it means we’re absolute shite and have a muppet as manager! The sooner Hoyle’s gone the better, some folk might start supporting the team again rather than blindly supporting this owner! |
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Post by Henry Mcgee on Jan 30, 2023 7:47:20 GMT 1
Let's turn our blazers inside out like they did on Grange Hill.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Jan 30, 2023 8:06:17 GMT 1
I think that pointing out where the club can improve is supporting the club. My comments that are mainly negative at the moment only appear on this board and with my mates, it dose not come out in the stadium. I don't expect any negative comment from me or my mates being voiced in the stadium, unless we end up relegated and then I feel the temperature in the stadium will rise somewhat. I suppose it comes down to what you think a supporter is. For some it is sitting in the stadium and accepting whatever the club puts on the field. I believe that as a fan of the club I have bought in to Huddersfield Town and not an owner of the club as we all know that we will be here long after any owner has left. So if I think that if the club is making errors or wasting money on transfers I am at liberty to point this out. The club has shown that it will ignore me and continue making the same poor decisions. I am still a fan and I still support the team and hope that we will manage to stay in the Championship. Some on here think that making negative comments on a here makes me something else, I am not sure what. Your 3rd paragraph is what some Town fans need to remember. When I first started watching Town I didn’t have a clue who the owner was etc I just supported the team and wanted them to win. Some fans seem to support this owner and want what’s best for him even if it means we’re absolute shite and have a muppet as manager! The sooner Hoyle’s gone the better, some folk might start supporting the team again rather than blindly supporting this owner! This seems to be a major problem amongst the Town fan base, who do you support Hoyle Town or Huddersfield Town? There are too many foregoing their support of the club in the defence of Dean Hoyle. |
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Post by rockwall on Jan 30, 2023 9:14:42 GMT 1
Is a protest going to change much? I don't think it would.
But,
What else can fans do? Those at the top know we are a soft touch and won't do anything.
A fans voice is needed. Tell the rest of the UK footballing world what is actually happening at our club.
Make those at the top embarrassed.
A protest is the only way that could happen.
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Post by crux on Jan 30, 2023 9:41:29 GMT 1
Classic - were suggesting a protest & too many things to protest against to agree what we’re protesting against Fwiw I’m not sure what a protest achieves as above - short term aim is to survive on the pitch & only thing that can directly impact that is the players & the dugout, too late for the rest - which is already in motion in some sorts Splitter! This has all the makings of a classic Monty Python sketch 🤣 |
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