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Post by Porrohman on Jan 31, 2023 23:40:50 GMT 1
If we play five at the back on Saturday I will lose my legendary cool š
5 at the back is front foot attacking football for Fotheringham Trouble is, he's that thick, he thinks it's a back 4
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Post by mids on Jan 31, 2023 23:48:15 GMT 1
5 at the back is front foot attacking football for Fotheringham Trouble is, he's that thick, he thinks it's a back 4 God help us with this bloke in charge. A day at the pub and the game used to be decent, win or loss. Now its just a soul less, drab, draining interruption to being in the pub. Wales v Ireland Six Nations with a few pints is far more appealing this Saturday, followed by the Calcutta Cup.
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Post by willo on Feb 1, 2023 0:32:32 GMT 1
Short term pain for long term gain. Do you feel we have a better chance of staying up by keeping MF until end of the season, or losing the next game but having him gone? There is 0 guarantee that weāll get anyone in to do a better job - and with LB/DH in charge even more so. Points on the board all day long. DH & LB should be lining up their ducks right now. It pains me to say it but I would take a defeat on Saturday if it finally meant MF was out the door. I donāt think the fans have ever taken to him - and are unlikely to - and weāre led to believe the players arenāt exactly enamoured either. I take your point there is no guarantee who comes through the door next will keep us up but almost anyone would be preferable to the current head coach. I can actually see us getting at least a point on Saturday (and a point would not be sufficient) but donāt see us getting anything after that at Blackpool, weād be delaying the inevitable and losing even more time.
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Post by townrwe on Feb 1, 2023 1:14:20 GMT 1
Vaclik
Lees helik Pearson
Turton Hogg Kasumu jacko
Rudoni waghorn knockhart
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Post by Big Ern on Feb 1, 2023 1:39:14 GMT 1
Vaclic
Lowton Pearson Helik Jackson
Hogg Camara
Hungbo Knockeart Jones
Rhodes
More chance of me taking over as the next town manager than that line up but hey ho
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Post by belizian on Feb 1, 2023 5:33:54 GMT 1
QPR struggling for money and have sold a couple of their regular squad today and not brought anyone in. Dykes is out injured or ill (surprised they didn't go for a loan to replace him?) Their fans seem to have given up on any hope of getting into either the top six or bottom three.
Will Fothers set us up for a hopeful draw again? A points a point ye ken.
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Post by Tinpot on Feb 1, 2023 8:18:24 GMT 1
Vaclik
Ruffels Boyle Lees Helik Pearson REG Turton Lowton
Hogg High
If we're going to show fuck all attacking intent then we might as well pick a line-up that reflects what we're trying to do.
Hopefully we can sneak a point at home to the second most out of form side in the division.
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Post by dugnet on Feb 1, 2023 8:43:31 GMT 1
We need to win, simple as that.
Lose and I cannot see any way MF can survive.
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Post by runner76 on Feb 1, 2023 8:48:03 GMT 1
We need to not lose
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Post by durhamterrier on Feb 1, 2023 8:49:45 GMT 1
In the next five games we need 10+ points to move away from those below and catch those above . Winning this eases some real pressure going into Blackpool and Wigan.
Good footballing team are qpr with some nifty players - Chair and Willock will take turns dancing past Ruffels at the current rate .
Team for me would be the below with wing backs having real license to overlap with inverted wingers . Kasumu gives us the energy and ball carrying ability Highs never had .
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Hogg Kasumu
Hungbo/Knockaert Waghorn Rudoni
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Post by tepidterrier on Feb 1, 2023 9:12:18 GMT 1
as depressing as it is, a boring draw will close the gap. So I guess we'll go for that unless Ruffels decides to turn into Lewandowski again
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Post by hthp on Feb 1, 2023 9:57:44 GMT 1
There is 0 guarantee that weāll get anyone in to do a better job - and with LB/DH in charge even more so. Points on the board all day long. DH & LB should be lining up their ducks right now. It pains me to say it but I would take a defeat on Saturday if it finally meant MF was out the door. I donāt think the fans have ever taken to him - and are unlikely to - and weāre led to believe the players arenāt exactly enamoured either. I take your point there is no guarantee who comes through the door next will keep us up but almost anyone would be preferable to the current head coach. I can actually see us getting at least a point on Saturday (and a point would not be sufficient) but donāt see us getting anything after that at Blackpool, weād be delaying the inevitable and losing even more time. I'd much rather he won games and proved us wrong, as much as I don't like him. I couldn't stand Corberan but I didn't want him to lose games. I'd rather this fella turned it round completely and proved us all wrong. For me, we should only sack him if an experienced head is brought in as a replacement. Sacking him to appoint the assistant manager, who is part of this mess in my opinion, and has even less managerial experience than Fotheringham, would be stupid.
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Post by Terriersmad on Feb 1, 2023 10:26:49 GMT 1
My team for Saturday (which will look nothing like the team we actually play):
Vaclik
Lowton Jackson Helik Pearson
Hogg Kasumu Camara
Waghorn Holmes Rhodes
Subs: Bilokapic, Turton, Ruffels, High, Hungbo, Rudoni, Kamberi.
Some might think that midfield is defensive. In reality, we need to get on the ball, push the full-backs forward for width, and work from there. Rudoni is unlucky to miss out, but I like having a pest up front and Waghorn is that.
What will happen is a back five, with wing-backs pegged back, a defensive midfield two, and an isolated forward line. All with no composure in possession.
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Post by duncfost01 on Feb 1, 2023 10:50:11 GMT 1
Holmes needs to be dropped along with Ruffels.
Holmes just let Hamer run past him for Coventryās first goal.
Jackson & Camara - why have they not been involved ?
We need to see a performance. I get the feeling that if qpr score first it will be difficult. The fans are ready to turn and MF should prepare himself for some stick.
Rudhoni must score soon and his recent performances have been encouraging. He just needs to find an end product.
Who to play up front ? For me Rhodes and kamberi and waghorn are nowhere near the finisher that Jordan can be.
High cannot start.
Hogg needs to put chair in the Kilner bank.
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Post by Essex Terrier on Feb 1, 2023 11:07:24 GMT 1
For me, this is undoubtedly the biggest game of the season so far. Desperately need a good response to last Saturday, so how confident are we? As our hero Nick would have said.... "Its a must win game". We miss his wise worms, don't we?
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Post by Essex Terrier on Feb 1, 2023 11:08:37 GMT 1
For me, this is undoubtedly the biggest game of the season so far. Desperately need a good response to last Saturday, so how confident are we? As our hero Nick would have said.... "Its a must win game". We miss his wise worms, don't we? Sorry, but back on thread, we should win, but I'm going for a narrow defeat. Soz.
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Post by kjf on Feb 1, 2023 11:26:22 GMT 1
1-0 town Jackson the goalscorer
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Post by willo on Feb 1, 2023 11:44:09 GMT 1
We need to win, simple as that. Lose and I cannot see any way MF can survive. Weāve been saying this for weeks.
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Post by willo on Feb 1, 2023 11:50:57 GMT 1
DH & LB should be lining up their ducks right now. It pains me to say it but I would take a defeat on Saturday if it finally meant MF was out the door. I donāt think the fans have ever taken to him - and are unlikely to - and weāre led to believe the players arenāt exactly enamoured either. I take your point there is no guarantee who comes through the door next will keep us up but almost anyone would be preferable to the current head coach. I can actually see us getting at least a point on Saturday (and a point would not be sufficient) but donāt see us getting anything after that at Blackpool, weād be delaying the inevitable and losing even more time. I'd much rather he won games and proved us wrong, as much as I don't like him. I couldn't stand Corberan but I didn't want him to lose games. I'd rather this fella turned it round completely and proved us all wrong. For me, we should only sack him if an experienced head is brought in as a replacement. Sacking him to appoint the assistant manager, who is part of this mess in my opinion, and has even less managerial experience than Fotheringham, would be stupid. Ordinarily Iād agree but not on this occasion, heās hopeless and shows no sign of improving. I canāt believe there is not a better option out there. Anyway weāll find out on Saturday. If he sets us up similarly to the Coventry game, we all know what the outcome will be and heāll only have himself to blame.
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Post by westislandterrier on Feb 1, 2023 11:59:05 GMT 1
We need to win, simple as that. Lose and I cannot see any way MF can survive. I think they might even give him until Blackpool even if he loses - but if itās anything bar a narrow loss it could get a tad ugly at The John Smithās stadium on Saturday... If he loses that one and Blackpool then even the normal ultra positive Westie would probably say thanks guys, but please just go (Foddy, Miller and Brondby) - Hopefully tho after Blackpool weāre all celebrating 6 points and the tide has stopped ebbing away our energy and the flood tidal race of recovery is on !
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Post by goodbet on Feb 1, 2023 12:03:36 GMT 1
I'd much rather he won games and proved us wrong, as much as I don't like him. I couldn't stand Corberan but I didn't want him to lose games. I'd rather this fella turned it round completely and proved us all wrong. For me, we should only sack him if an experienced head is brought in as a replacement. Sacking him to appoint the assistant manager, who is part of this mess in my opinion, and has even less managerial experience than Fotheringham, would be stupid. Ordinarily Iād agree but not on this occasion, heās hopeless and shows no sign of improving. I canāt believe there is not a better option out there. Anyway weāll find out on Saturday. If he sets us up similarly to the Coventry game, we all know what the outcome will be and heāll only have himself to blame. Just a thought, if we do let Fotheringham go, we have the same people in place making the decision on who will replace him. Also remember that they are also responsible for putting Schofield into that position a short time before. What are the chances that they will have reviewed their selection criteria and will look for something different this time around rather than just who will cost us less.
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Post by ram on Feb 1, 2023 12:08:43 GMT 1
I put WIN, every time hoping that the law of averages works in my favour{not holding mi breath though}
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Post by dugnet on Feb 1, 2023 12:25:37 GMT 1
We need to win, simple as that. Lose and I cannot see any way MF can survive. I think they might even give him until Blackpool even if he loses - but if itās anything bar a narrow loss it could get a tad ugly at The John Smithās stadium on Saturday... If he loses that one and Blackpool then even the normal ultra positive Westie would probably say thanks guys, but please just go (Foddy, Miller and Brondby) - Hopefully tho after Blackpool weāre all celebrating 6 points and the tide has stopped ebbing away our energy and the flood tidal race of recovery is on ! I hope you're right about the 6 points Westie. If MF and his merry men can start getting results then happy days, but patience is now a thin as it possibly can be, in my view. I don't however think there will be too much in the way of being ugly should we not get a result on Saturday. I expect a poor attendance and an atmosphere to match. The quicker we have a fulsome change at the club the better. I fear interest in our fortunes has hit a level of apathy that the club should be concerned about. Of course as we are up for sale that is the focus for those in charge and a few fans venting their opinion is of little consequence (to them).
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Post by terriersyndrome on Feb 1, 2023 12:37:23 GMT 1
1-0 town Jackson the goalscorer Deal š¤
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Post by 28901 on Feb 1, 2023 13:12:11 GMT 1
My team for Saturday (which will look nothing like the team we actually play): Vaclik Lowton Jackson Helik Pearson Hogg Kasumu Camara Waghorn Holmes Rhodes Subs: Bilokapic, Turton, Ruffels, High, Hungbo, Rudoni, Kamberi. Some might think that midfield is defensive. In reality, we need to get on the ball, push the full-backs forward for width, and work from there. Rudoni is unlucky to miss out, but I like having a pest up front and Waghorn is that. What will happen is a back five, with wing-backs pegged back, a defensive midfield two, and an isolated forward line. All with no composure in possession. I agree with everything here except I would swap Holmes for Rudoni in the starting xi, and Simpson for Kamberi on bench.
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Post by Terriersmad on Feb 1, 2023 13:24:09 GMT 1
My team for Saturday (which will look nothing like the team we actually play): Vaclik Lowton Jackson Helik Pearson Hogg Kasumu Camara Waghorn Holmes Rhodes Subs: Bilokapic, Turton, Ruffels, High, Hungbo, Rudoni, Kamberi. Some might think that midfield is defensive. In reality, we need to get on the ball, push the full-backs forward for width, and work from there. Rudoni is unlucky to miss out, but I like having a pest up front and Waghorn is that. What will happen is a back five, with wing-backs pegged back, a defensive midfield two, and an isolated forward line. All with no composure in possession. I agree with everything here except I would swap Holmes for Rudoni in the starting xi, and Simpson for Kamberi on bench. I prefer Holmes as he can carry the ball and is slightly quicker than Rudoni. Not that the lad's done much wrong.
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Post by Henry Mcgee on Feb 1, 2023 13:26:05 GMT 1
My team for Saturday (which will look nothing like the team we actually play): Vaclik Lowton Jackson Helik Pearson Hogg Kasumu Camara Waghorn Holmes Rhodes Subs: Bilokapic, Turton, Ruffels, High, Hungbo, Rudoni, Kamberi. Some might think that midfield is defensive. In reality, we need to get on the ball, push the full-backs forward for width, and work from there. Rudoni is unlucky to miss out, but I like having a pest up front and Waghorn is that. What will happen is a back five, with wing-backs pegged back, a defensive midfield two, and an isolated forward line. All with no composure in possession. I agree with everything here except I would swap Holmes for Rudoni in the starting xi, and Simpson for Kamberi on bench. We're playing Pearson at left back???!!!
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Post by Porrohman on Feb 1, 2023 13:48:33 GMT 1
My team for Saturday (which will look nothing like the team we actually play): Vaclik Lowton Jackson Helik Pearson Hogg Kasumu Camara Waghorn Holmes Rhodes Subs: Bilokapic, Turton, Ruffels, High, Hungbo, Rudoni, Kamberi. Some might think that midfield is defensive. In reality, we need to get on the ball, push the full-backs forward for width, and work from there. Rudoni is unlucky to miss out, but I like having a pest up front and Waghorn is that. What will happen is a back five, with wing-backs pegged back, a defensive midfield two, and an isolated forward line. All with no composure in possession. Change Holmes and Waghorn for Rudoni and Hungbo and I could go for that team
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Post by Porrohman on Feb 1, 2023 13:50:57 GMT 1
Ordinarily Iād agree but not on this occasion, heās hopeless and shows no sign of improving. I canāt believe there is not a better option out there. Anyway weāll find out on Saturday. If he sets us up similarly to the Coventry game, we all know what the outcome will be and heāll only have himself to blame. Just a thought, if we do let Fotheringham go, we have the same people in place making the decision on who will replace him. Also remember that they are also responsible for putting Schofield into that position a short time before. What are the chances that they will have reviewed their selection criteria and will look for something different this time around rather than just who will cost us less. Hopefully Bromby would be out too, how much say did Baldwin get in Buzz getting appointed ?
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Post by Porrohman on Feb 1, 2023 13:53:47 GMT 1
I agree with everything here except I would swap Holmes for Rudoni in the starting xi, and Simpson for Kamberi on bench. I prefer Holmes as he can carry the ball and is slightly quicker than Rudoni. Not that the lad's done much wrong. Is he quicker ? He's 6" shorter so his legs have to go more to cover the same ground. Rudoni is, apparently, now the in the lead in assists and is our only decent dead ball taker.
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