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Post by nicovaesen on Aug 22, 2023 16:04:26 GMT 1
Go down as a town managing legend. We should have more memes of him than the buzz one.
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Post by htafcokay on Aug 22, 2023 17:24:45 GMT 1
Slapps hasn’t found it yet that’s why. Im tempted to mention again that his points per game ratio would have kept us up, but I dont want to spoil the pile on about him being the worst manager ever. Despite us not once venturing out of the bottom three during his 20 games in charge.
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Post by Captainslapper on Aug 22, 2023 17:46:42 GMT 1
Im tempted to mention again that his points per game ratio would have kept us up, but I dont want to spoil the pile on about him being the worst manager ever. Despite us not once venturing out of the bottom three during his 20 games in charge. 21 games I think, but yes.
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Post by htafcokay on Aug 22, 2023 18:36:29 GMT 1
Despite us not once venturing out of the bottom three during his 20 games in charge. 21 games I think, but yes. Didn't realise F.A. Cup games effected your league position.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Aug 22, 2023 19:09:17 GMT 1
21 games I think, but yes. Didn't realise F.A. Cup games effected your league position. I think I totted up that he got 18 points from 20 games . In captainpottymouth's World that keeps us up last season so you best not argue with him
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Post by Leporid on Aug 22, 2023 19:25:34 GMT 1
Im tempted to mention again that his points per game ratio would have kept us up, but I dont want to spoil the pile on about him being the worst manager ever. Despite us not once venturing out of the bottom three during his 20 games in charge. He avoided trying to change things too quickly.
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Post by htafcokay on Aug 22, 2023 19:26:02 GMT 1
Didn't realise F.A. Cup games effected your league position. I think I totted up that he got 18 points from 20 games . In captainpottymouth's World that keeps us up last season so you best not argue with him He'll be claiming cup games as league games next...
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Post by htafcokay on Aug 22, 2023 19:26:23 GMT 1
Despite us not once venturing out of the bottom three during his 20 games in charge. He avoided trying to change things too quickly. Oh he did change things, we got worse.
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Post by Leporid on Aug 22, 2023 19:28:58 GMT 1
He avoided trying to change things too quickly. Oh he did change things, we got worse. He achieved a level of consistency.
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Post by 28901 on Aug 22, 2023 19:46:20 GMT 1
I think I totted up that he got 18 points from 20 games . In captainpottymouth's World that keeps us up last season so you best not argue with him He'll be claiming cup games as league games next... Play off finals are league games in slaps world so why not?
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Post by shawsie on Aug 22, 2023 20:56:50 GMT 1
How anyone can think the listerine donkey was going to keep us up is beyond me. Warnock worked a miracle of lazarus proportions.
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Post by Huddy Town Black Sox on Aug 22, 2023 21:21:57 GMT 1
Slapps hasn’t found it yet that’s why. Im tempted to mention again that his points per game ratio would have kept us up, but I dont want to spoil the pile on about him being the worst manager ever. This, has to be early signs of the on set of dementia
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Post by Captainslapper on Aug 22, 2023 23:13:45 GMT 1
He'll be claiming cup games as league games next... Play off finals are league games in slaps world so why not? You mean League 1, League 2 and Championship play off finals where one team moves up a division in the league?? No, theyre nothing to do with the league obviously!
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Post by Captainslapper on Aug 22, 2023 23:26:24 GMT 1
Didn't realise F.A. Cup games effected your league position. I think I totted up that he got 18 points from 20 games . In captainpottymouth's World that keeps us up last season so you best not argue with him Probably is best not to argue with me because your maths is as shite as your trolling. from his first game at reading to his last at Blackpool he had 20 league games and won 21 points .. 1.05 points per game which over a full season would be 48 points.. we stay up by 4 clear points. If he'd have just continued getting the points per game he'd got in those 20 games until the end of the season ..we'd have finished on 46 points...we stay up by 2 clear points. So yeah, in my world, that a points per game ratio that does keep us up last season. Youre the joke that keeps on giving teddy boy.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Aug 22, 2023 23:30:23 GMT 1
Rofl ..
We've had this nonsense debate before . In his last 6 games we got (was it ?) 2 draws against shit teams giving away leads. We had all the top teams upcoming and team morale was on the floor . I'll check out your maths later . Me trolling you ? Haha ... wash your mouth out with fairy
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Post by krtek on Aug 23, 2023 1:19:47 GMT 1
sometimes when you are getting shit results and inconsistent performances because you are a bad manager, best thing you can do is lob a grenade out every presser. No need to engage the brain or have any humility, just scapegoat individuals. No need to even engage with reality, just talk about the game as you imagined it - rather than what actually happened. This c*** would have got Burnley in a relegation battle.
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Post by willo on Aug 23, 2023 9:05:31 GMT 1
Absolutely no way in the know, however, I have a feeling he may end up at our Chicken friends, if they get rid of Hughes any time soon, which wouldn't be the most ridiculous scenario if they carry on like they are. Then it’ll be a one-way ticket to the non-league.
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Post by omegasupreme on Aug 23, 2023 16:45:18 GMT 1
He believed in himself.
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Post by mosher on Aug 23, 2023 16:54:08 GMT 1
That makes 4 people then; him, his mam, his dad and Bromby
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Post by waggers on Aug 23, 2023 17:12:22 GMT 1
I think I totted up that he got 18 points from 20 games . In captainpottymouth's World that keeps us up last season so you best not argue with him Probably is best not to argue with me because your maths is as shite as your trolling. from his first game at reading to his last at Blackpool he had 20 league games and won 21 points .. 1.05 points per game which over a full season would be 48 points.. we stay up by 4 clear points. If he'd have just continued getting the points per game he'd got in those 20 games until the end of the season ..we'd have finished on 46 points...we stay up by 2 clear points. So yeah, in my world, that a points per game ratio that does keep us up last season. Youre the joke that keeps on giving teddy boy. The argument would be would Foz have been able to maintain that 1.05 points per game over the remainder of the season in order to survive. Reading also took up a drop spot due to points deduction forgot how many they got docked. You'd need to compare who Foz played to get his 1.05 points per game, were they anywhere near the calibre of team Warnock had to play to reach survival. Foz couldn't get a win against Blackpool who had 10 men for 45 minutes. I think a lot of the players were also sick to the back teeth of him, if that man was left in charge we'd be league 1.
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Post by Captainslapper on Aug 23, 2023 17:40:52 GMT 1
Probably is best not to argue with me because your maths is as shite as your trolling. from his first game at reading to his last at Blackpool he had 20 league games and won 21 points .. 1.05 points per game which over a full season would be 48 points.. we stay up by 4 clear points. If he'd have just continued getting the points per game he'd got in those 20 games until the end of the season ..we'd have finished on 46 points...we stay up by 2 clear points. So yeah, in my world, that a points per game ratio that does keep us up last season. Youre the joke that keeps on giving teddy boy. The argument would be would Foz have been able to maintain that 1.05 points per game over the remainder of the season in order to survive. Reading also took up a drop spot due to points deduction forgot how many they got docked. You'd need to compare who Foz played to get his 1.05 points per game, were they anywhere near the calibre of team Warnock had to play to reach survival. Foz couldn't get a win against Blackpool who had 10 men for 45 minutes. I think a lot of the players were also sick to the back teeth of him, if that man was left in charge we'd be league 1. His 20 games were almost half a season..we didnt avoid all the good sides! In fact I remember a run of games where almost every side we played over the course of 10 games were in the top 6 when we played them. And we did that during one of the worst injury situations I can recall this club ever having...something that had hugely improved by the time Warnock came in. Would he have kept his points per game average going ?? Maybe..maybe not..We'll never know... much like statements suggesting the players were sick of him actually have any truth to them. I dont think he was a very good manager in various ways but the way the facts gets distorted and skewed to fit this narrative that he was the worst manager of all time is all bit naff IMO.
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Post by htafcokay on Aug 23, 2023 17:43:55 GMT 1
Imagine still debating this, six months after his departure and after employing a proper manager to clean up the mess Fotheringham had left in the first place.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Aug 23, 2023 17:45:24 GMT 1
Lad's lost it
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Post by Captainslapper on Aug 23, 2023 17:53:37 GMT 1
Lost what ted? My ability to work out a points per game ratio? No, think that was you.
Damn those pesky facts!
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Aug 23, 2023 17:54:25 GMT 1
Step away from the keyboard . Do some breathing exercises
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Post by htfcfcfc on Aug 23, 2023 17:59:14 GMT 1
Lost what ted? My ability to work out a points per game ratio? No, think that was you. Damn those pesky facts! Sorry Captain but he was a disaster. Not a chance he’d have got close to Warnock’s total. No idea if the players liked him or not but we weren’t staying up with him in charge On a personal note, never in my ~36 years of watching Town have I ever had to avoid watching a manager pre or post match interview no matter how crap the team was. I suspect I wasn’t alone.
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Post by htafcokay on Aug 23, 2023 18:14:41 GMT 1
Lost what ted? My ability to work out a points per game ratio? No, think that was you. Damn those pesky facts! Sorry Captain but he was a disaster. Not a chance he’d have got close to Warnock’s total. No idea if the players liked him or not but we weren’t staying up with him in charge On a personal note, never in my ~36 years of watching Town have I ever had to avoid watching a manager pre or post match interview no matter how crap the team was. I suspect I wasn’t alone. There's been very few managers in our history that were as bad as him, that's for sure. It wasn't just the results. It was the lack of any kind of gameplan, the nonsense interviews where he'd obviously watched a completely different match, his antics at half-time where he didn't go into the dressing room to do a team talk (I mean, what the fuck?) and the utter delusion about being a big cheese in Germany. He only lasted 21 games but it felt like a fucking lifetime. I remember him coming over to some of the fans that had gathered by the dugout after the Watford match saying "Listen guys, don't worry, stick with us, we'll win, we'll win". He couldn't have even convinced himself at that point. The Cowshed Loyal's original plan was apparently to put "Clown in the dugout" on their now infamous banner. Four words that sum him up perfectly.
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Post by waggers on Aug 23, 2023 18:18:46 GMT 1
Lost what ted? My ability to work out a points per game ratio? No, think that was you. Damn those pesky facts! Sorry Captain but he was a disaster. Not a chance he’d have got close to Warnock’s total. No idea if the players liked him or not but we weren’t staying up with him in charge On a personal note, never in my ~36 years of watching Town have I ever had to avoid watching a manager pre or post match interview no matter how crap the team was. I suspect I wasn’t alone. Captain's points per game comment is a legitimate argument to be fair, but most fans from a subjective viewpoint are very confident he would not have got the points required to survive. It is technically hearsay he lost the dressing room but I've heard it plenty times and it certainly looked that way after the Blackpool and Wigan games. Also Hoyle certainly wasn't confident Foz could do it did he, cost a fair few quid to get rid of him and pay for Warnock.
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Post by htafcokay on Aug 23, 2023 18:19:55 GMT 1
Sorry Captain but he was a disaster. Not a chance he’d have got close to Warnock’s total. No idea if the players liked him or not but we weren’t staying up with him in charge On a personal note, never in my ~36 years of watching Town have I ever had to avoid watching a manager pre or post match interview no matter how crap the team was. I suspect I wasn’t alone. Captain's points per game point is a legitimate argument to be fair, but most fans from a subjective viewpoint are very confident he would not have got the points required to survive. It is technically hearsay he lost the dressing room but I've heard it plenty times and it certainly looked that way after the Blackpool and Wigan games. Alledgedly, he smashed the dressing room up at Blackpool after the game.
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Post by westislandterrier on Aug 23, 2023 18:34:52 GMT 1
Sorry Captain but he was a disaster. Not a chance he’d have got close to Warnock’s total. No idea if the players liked him or not but we weren’t staying up with him in charge On a personal note, never in my ~36 years of watching Town have I ever had to avoid watching a manager pre or post match interview no matter how crap the team was. I suspect I wasn’t alone. There's been very few managers in our history that were as bad as him, that's for sure. It wasn't just the results. It was the lack of any kind of gameplan, the nonsense interviews where he'd obviously watched a completely different match, his antics at half-time where he didn't go into the dressing room to do a team talk (I mean, what the fuck?) and the utter delusion about being a big cheese in Germany. He only lasted 21 games but it felt like a fucking lifetime. I remember him coming over to some of the fans that had gathered by the dugout after the Watford match saying "Listen guys, don't worry, stick with us, we'll win, we'll win". He couldn't have even convinced himself at that point. The Cowshed Loyal's original plan was apparently to put " Clown in the dugout" on their now infamous banner. Four words that sum him up perfectly. Clown in the dug out... But some might say that Deano... dug out the Clown ! 😬 😉
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