duncfost01
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Post by duncfost01 on Feb 15, 2023 19:28:33 GMT 1
If Hungbo isn’t starting my mood may change…
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bluetit
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Post by bluetit on Feb 15, 2023 19:32:47 GMT 1
Doesn’t matter who is in the team or manages it I think sadly squad is incapable of winning a football match. Sad to think this way but I’m a realist we have one of the worst teams I’ve seen in 55+ years supporting them
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kindo
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Post by kindo on Feb 15, 2023 19:40:48 GMT 1
Please name me more than one match where Holmes has "made things happen in the final third" - either since he returned or when he was first here. Not looking at his first spell, I didn’t rate him then but I think he’s been noticeably better (to me at least) since he came back. I agree with the OP he often looks like the only player trying to make things happen. Obviously in true HTFC fashion a few still have the knives out for him This season Rotherham (goal) Luton (goal) Stoke ( 2 assists) Last season Hull (goal) Bristol (goal) Derby (goal) Forest (goal) Fulham (goal) As I've said previously this says everything about the pisspoor state we're in. Anybody out there sad enough to be able to quote what his XLOSINGPOSSESIONINDANGEROUSAREAS is?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2023 19:40:52 GMT 1
Strange feeling we will go grab a win tonight and Pat Jones will cause Stoke problems in the last ten mins……
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Post by richhtfc on Feb 15, 2023 19:42:45 GMT 1
Not looking at his first spell, I didn’t rate him then but I think he’s been noticeably better (to me at least) since he came back. I agree with the OP he often looks like the only player trying to make things happen. Obviously in true HTFC fashion a few still have the knives out for him This season Rotherham (goal) Luton (goal) Stoke ( 2 assists) Last season Hull (goal) Bristol (goal) Derby (goal) Forest (goal) Fulham (goal) It's not a case of anyone having knives out for him, surely you realise that your stats show that he is blatantly not good enough for the creative job he's supposed to be doing for a Championship club? In over a season & a half (including a full season where we finished 3rd in the league) 7 goals & 2 assists isn't the end product of a prolific Championship attacking player. He was used largely as an impact sub last year and I’d argue that return of 5 goals is pretty good in that context. So far this season the whole team has been shit but he still looks like one of the only players likely to create something in my opinion. The op asked for ‘more than one occasion’ where he’s contributed since he came back and there are 9 listed above.
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Post by rockwall on Feb 15, 2023 19:42:46 GMT 1
Thing with High is that he has played 42 games and is 22. I have not seen any improvement at all. If anything, he has got worse. We are not in a position to be 'developing or giving people a chance. If Hungbo is on the bench tonight that is horrendous. Probably the only positive from Wigan. The only changes should be Kasumu for Camara. Lowton for Turton and a huge call, but I would play Boyle over Lees based on Lees current form. Might it be fair to say that his getting worse as you put it could reflect the deterioration in the quality of coaching. Corberan - Schofield - Fotheringham, and perhaps with Warnock we might see an improvement in his performances? Can't blame Schofield or Fotheringham. He was at Rotherham.....
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buckers
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Post by buckers on Feb 15, 2023 19:46:49 GMT 1
That starting 11 😬
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Post by impact on Feb 15, 2023 19:46:56 GMT 1
What on earth is that? Rudoni right wing back or something?
No striker on the bench.
High over Kasumu and Camara.
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Post by Solihull Terrier on Feb 15, 2023 19:47:37 GMT 1
Town’s team vs Stoke City 1. Tomáš Vaclík 4. Matty Pearson 6. Jonathan Hogg (c) 10. Josh Koroma 12. Will Boyle 15. Scott High 22. Jack Rudoni 32. Tom Lees 48. Jaheim Headley 49. Martyn Waghorn 50. Anthony Knockaert
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Post by galpharm2400 on Feb 15, 2023 19:48:27 GMT 1
Hope it works but you get the feeling its another 'trial' 11.?
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Post by Solihull Terrier on Feb 15, 2023 19:49:25 GMT 1
I don't see any of those names doing a job at right back.
Maybe High at a push.
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Post by leroy212 on Feb 15, 2023 19:49:29 GMT 1
What is that line up? Where's Rhodes? High in instead of kasumu. Got job Warnock starts tomorrow. As can't see us getting anything with that line up
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goodbet
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Post by goodbet on Feb 15, 2023 19:50:14 GMT 1
Not a positive team selection. We must be hoping for a draw.
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Post by terriers2000 on Feb 15, 2023 19:50:36 GMT 1
What the fuck is that
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Post by Porrohman on Feb 15, 2023 19:50:47 GMT 1
It's not a case of anyone having knives out for him, surely you realise that your stats show that he is blatantly not good enough for the creative job he's supposed to be doing for a Championship club? In over a season & a half (including a full season where we finished 3rd in the league) 7 goals & 2 assists isn't the end product of a prolific Championship attacking player. He was used largely as an impact sub last year and I’d argue that return of 5 goals is pretty good in that context. So far this season the whole team has been shit but he still looks like one of the only players likely to create something in my opinion. The op asked for ‘more than one occasion’ where he’s contributed since he came back and there are 9 listed above. He doesn't create anything, 2 assists in a season and a half for an attacking midfielder 🤨
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Feb 15, 2023 19:50:47 GMT 1
No striker on the bench or on the field judging by recent displays
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Post by rockwall on Feb 15, 2023 19:50:59 GMT 1
Hogg high and Rudoni as a 3 = game lost.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Feb 15, 2023 19:51:04 GMT 1
What is that line up? Where's Rhodes? High in instead of kasumu. Got job Warnock starts tomorrow. As can't see us getting anything with that line up Warnock is going to love Kasumu.
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Post by leroy212 on Feb 15, 2023 19:51:45 GMT 1
It's like the players pictures been put on a wall and had 11 darts chucked at them. Where ever darts land that player starts
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Post by Waterloo Terrier on Feb 15, 2023 19:51:49 GMT 1
I’m not really sure what the formation is there. Pearson at right back? Surprise Kasumu isn’t getting a run. That midfield is static.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Feb 15, 2023 19:53:05 GMT 1
If we could find 10 players, playing in their right positions and playing a system they both understand and enjoy, we might do better. Colins job is just to make them more effective whatever their feelings about how we do it? This swapping and changing hasnt worked till now.
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Post by leroy212 on Feb 15, 2023 19:53:28 GMT 1
I’m not really sure what the formation is there. Pearson at right back? Surprise Kasumu isn’t getting a run. That midfield is static. Least kasumu will tackle someone unlike high
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Post by VLP Fan Club on Feb 15, 2023 19:53:43 GMT 1
That teams got nothing to do with Warnock - Narcis has full control until tomorrow.
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Post by The King's Head 1230 on Feb 15, 2023 19:53:51 GMT 1
Why I there no mention of Simpson? We need goals especially with Rhodes ill
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Post by Big Ern on Feb 15, 2023 19:53:53 GMT 1
What the fuckinghell is that team. Where is Rhodes??
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Feb 15, 2023 19:54:30 GMT 1
No idea what the thinking is behind that team. The same players keeping their place regardless of how poor they play
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Post by johnb1 on Feb 15, 2023 19:55:24 GMT 1
Hope Jones gets minutes
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Post by Kirchenglocken on Feb 15, 2023 19:55:34 GMT 1
Town win 3-1
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Post by Porrohman on Feb 15, 2023 19:55:35 GMT 1
Well, I was going to watch Town on the red button with Arsenal/City on my phone but after seeing that line up I might just put Amazon on the telly.
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Yuta be a terrier
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Feb 15, 2023 19:55:56 GMT 1
Could be any formation that lineup. Could be wing backs with Headley and possibly Rudoni? Get Knockaert and Koroma squeezed in closer to Waghorn and let High and Hogg hold the middle of the park?
Or it could be that they have found Lee Clarks tombola.
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