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May 15, 2023 18:38:55 GMT 1
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Post by VLP Fan Club on May 15, 2023 18:38:55 GMT 1
All depends if the new manager fancies him or if he has his own ideas, I’m sure we’ll explore it at the very least.
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Post by Terrier Ramone on May 15, 2023 18:40:00 GMT 1
Would love to sign the lad, I thought he did really well & made a big contribution.
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Post by ben1987 on May 15, 2023 20:54:50 GMT 1
I love how a loanee from Watford talks the club up more than the board and fan base.
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Post by workshyfop on May 15, 2023 20:59:21 GMT 1
I love how a loanee from Watford talks the club up more than the board and fan base. As I’ve said before, love the lad. Very exciting to watch, bags of talent and great attitude.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on May 15, 2023 21:11:49 GMT 1
Sign him up, sign him up, sign him uuppp.
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Jun 3, 2023 17:10:42 GMT 1
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Post by Lovechops on Jun 3, 2023 17:10:42 GMT 1
I’m suprised no one has started a thread for this lad , altho not a rumour I’m hoping he’s at the top of NW’s wish list!
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Jun 3, 2023 17:49:56 GMT 1
Post by 3Pipe on Jun 3, 2023 17:49:56 GMT 1
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Jun 3, 2023 21:25:04 GMT 1
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Post by Lovechops on Jun 3, 2023 21:25:04 GMT 1
That thread is lost on talk of the town not in transfers!
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Post by Wingman on Jun 4, 2023 7:00:26 GMT 1
Merge....
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Jun 4, 2023 7:35:43 GMT 1
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Post by Solihull Terrier on Jun 4, 2023 7:35:43 GMT 1
I'd be surprised if we signed him if Warnock is made manager. Was never a first choice for him despite some key goals.
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Jun 4, 2023 8:17:51 GMT 1
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Post by mightyterrier on Jun 4, 2023 8:17:51 GMT 1
I'd be surprised if we signed him if Warnock is made manager. Was never a first choice for him despite some key goals. Who was?
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Post by rockwall on Jun 4, 2023 8:25:12 GMT 1
I'd be surprised if we signed him if Warnock is made manager. Was never a first choice for him despite some key goals. Because he wanted solidity over attack given the situation.
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Post by Sio on Jun 4, 2023 16:26:29 GMT 1
I love how a loanee from Watford talks the club up more than the board and fan base. Just seen this thread and was about to post the same. Not sure anyone at the Club has ever described us as 'big' before.
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Post by Detective Boyle on Jun 4, 2023 17:03:12 GMT 1
I love how a loanee from Watford talks the club up more than the board and fan base. Just seen this thread and was about to post the same. Not sure anyone at the Club has ever described us as 'big' before. We’ve always peddled ourselves to other players as a stepping stone club. Never a “join us and help us win promotion”, always a “join us to join a bigger club”. Hopefully that is going to change, and sentiment amongst the board and fans will be one of ambition and confidence. One thing I think will be helped with Hoyle leaving is forgetting the small club mindset.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Jun 5, 2023 0:05:31 GMT 1
Just seen this thread and was about to post the same. Not sure anyone at the Club has ever described us as 'big' before. We’ve always peddled ourselves to other players as a stepping stone club. Never a “join us and help us win promotion”, always a “join us to join a bigger club”. Hopefully that is going to change, and sentiment amongst the board and fans will be one of ambition and confidence. One thing I think will be helped with Hoyle leaving is forgetting the small club mindset. Do you really think we peddle ourselves as that sort of club to prospective signings? I think that’s rubbish to support your viewpoint about Dean Hoyle and co. I wonder what you’ll be saying about the new owner when he starts telling folk to be patient?
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Jun 5, 2023 0:37:01 GMT 1
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Post by Detective Boyle on Jun 5, 2023 0:37:01 GMT 1
We’ve always peddled ourselves to other players as a stepping stone club. Never a “join us and help us win promotion”, always a “join us to join a bigger club”. Hopefully that is going to change, and sentiment amongst the board and fans will be one of ambition and confidence. One thing I think will be helped with Hoyle leaving is forgetting the small club mindset. Do you really think we peddle ourselves as that sort of club to prospective signings? I think that’s rubbish to support your viewpoint about Dean Hoyle and co. I wonder what you’ll be saying about the new owner when he starts telling folk to be patient? Calm down Janet. If you can’t see that we had a small club mentality under Hoyle then I’m afraid I can’t help you there. The club openly stated itself as a stepping stone club. Although that was I would add part of a successful business model which established us in the championship (Coady, Clayton, Butterfield) the board under Hoyle unfortunately never shifted away from a small club mindset and have never seen ourselves as big hitters in this league. And that’s a DATM fact.
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Jun 5, 2023 6:08:58 GMT 1
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Post by Tinpot on Jun 5, 2023 6:08:58 GMT 1
We’ve always peddled ourselves to other players as a stepping stone club. Never a “join us and help us win promotion”, always a “join us to join a bigger club”. Hopefully that is going to change, and sentiment amongst the board and fans will be one of ambition and confidence. One thing I think will be helped with Hoyle leaving is forgetting the small club mindset. Do you really think we peddle ourselves as that sort of club to prospective signings? I think that’s rubbish to support your viewpoint about Dean Hoyle and co. I wonder what you’ll be saying about the new owner when he starts telling folk to be patient? I don't know, but imo it's not a bad strategy for attracting promising players with the potential to go higher.
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Jun 5, 2023 7:40:33 GMT 1
Post by melbourneterrier on Jun 5, 2023 7:40:33 GMT 1
I wonder if we would sound him out. Seems to have enjoyed his time here, scored some very important goals for us. In general, a very exciting player. Swap for Sorba....
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Post by htfcfcfc on Jun 5, 2023 8:12:02 GMT 1
Do you really think we peddle ourselves as that sort of club to prospective signings? I think that’s rubbish to support your viewpoint about Dean Hoyle and co. I wonder what you’ll be saying about the new owner when he starts telling folk to be patient? I don't know, but imo it's not a bad strategy for attracting promising players with the potential to go higher. The thing is, aren’t 90% plus of clubs in England in the same boat to some extent. There’s not many who aren’t a stepping stone to the ambition of youngsters who want to end up in the top six of the Premier League. Then reality kicks in
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Jun 5, 2023 8:13:29 GMT 1
Do you really think we peddle ourselves as that sort of club to prospective signings? I think that’s rubbish to support your viewpoint about Dean Hoyle and co. I wonder what you’ll be saying about the new owner when he starts telling folk to be patient? Calm down Janet. If you can’t see that we had a small club mentality under Hoyle then I’m afraid I can’t help you there. The club openly stated itself as a stepping stone club. Although that was I would add part of a successful business model which established us in the championship (Coady, Clayton, Butterfield) the board under Hoyle unfortunately never shifted away from a small club mindset and have never seen ourselves as big hitters in this league. And that’s a DATM fact. I think it’s all relative. If you look at Brighton for example, Bissouma, White, Cucurella, Trossard have all moved on to what most would call bigger clubs, so in that sense Brighton is a stepping stone club. Ive no problem being a stepping stone club if it means attracting players good enough to play at a higher level, it can only benefit the team short term, and short term is pretty much all that matters in football.
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Post by htafcokay on Jun 5, 2023 9:08:36 GMT 1
Do you really think we peddle ourselves as that sort of club to prospective signings? I think that’s rubbish to support your viewpoint about Dean Hoyle and co. I wonder what you’ll be saying about the new owner when he starts telling folk to be patient? Calm down Janet. If you can’t see that we had a small club mentality under Hoyle then I’m afraid I can’t help you there. The club openly stated itself as a stepping stone club. Although that was I would add part of a successful business model which established us in the championship (Coady, Clayton, Butterfield) the board under Hoyle unfortunately never shifted away from a small club mindset and have never seen ourselves as big hitters in this league. And that’s a DATM fact. Actively encouraged by our own supporters. A good chunk of our fanbase would tell you that we're a shitty League One club that doesn't deserve to be in the Championship. That always seems to be the attitude whenever we have any success or reach play-offs or whatever. Wembley last year was weird, the amount of people that were saying "we don't deserve to be here" was ridiculous. Of course we deserved to be there! Same as the 2017 promotion, we did it with a negative goal difference, without a scoring a goal (which is complete nonsense) and some fans will seriously try and tell you that we were shite and that we fluked it. I've never known a fanbase talk their own club's achievements down as much as ours do. It's embarrassing.
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Jun 5, 2023 11:17:37 GMT 1
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Jun 5, 2023 11:17:37 GMT 1
Do you really think we peddle ourselves as that sort of club to prospective signings? I think that’s rubbish to support your viewpoint about Dean Hoyle and co. I wonder what you’ll be saying about the new owner when he starts telling folk to be patient? Calm down Janet. If you can’t see that we had a small club mentality under Hoyle then I’m afraid I can’t help you there. The club openly stated itself as a stepping stone club. Although that was I would add part of a successful business model which established us in the championship (Coady, Clayton, Butterfield) the board under Hoyle unfortunately never shifted away from a small club mindset and have never seen ourselves as big hitters in this league. And that’s a DATM fact. OK, that’s me told then… I suppose you’ve conveniently forgotten about the short tenure of Phil H? I still think your point about us having a small club mentality is nonsense though. That’s my opinion which it seems will be unable to trump your claim about it being a fact. Hey ho…
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Jun 5, 2023 11:19:34 GMT 1
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Jun 5, 2023 11:19:34 GMT 1
Some right bollocks being written on here about fans accepting we’re a L1 club, small club mentality etc.
All it seemed to need to trigger those opinions was a tweet from a loan player we had for half a season.
Nowt as strange as folk…
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Post by 3Pipe on Jun 5, 2023 11:30:11 GMT 1
I particularly remember Wagner loved playing the underdog. He seemed to be able to turn it to our advantage.
Are there still 92 clubs in the football league? Let's say 90.
30 big clubs
30 medium clubs
30 small clubs
We're a medium club on the cusp of being a big club on the odd occasion.
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Post by mosher on Jun 5, 2023 11:31:30 GMT 1
Some right bollocks being written on here about fans accepting we’re a L1 club, small club mentality etc. All it seemed to need to trigger those opinions was a tweet from a loan player we had for half a season. Nowt as strange as folk… Agree about the fans' mentality. I'm not sure I know any Town fans that believe we're a "small" club, but we know we're not "massive" (c) Sheff Wed. But some of the sounds coming out of the club right back to the days of Herr Wagner DID seem to imply that the boardroom (and Wagner himself tbh) DID see us a small club punching well above our weight and just happy to be giving the big boys a bloody nose every now and then. Although, at the time, that rhetoric DID seem to pull the fanbase closer together like I'd not seen since Colin's first tenure (after the cup run and first Wembley anyway).
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Post by htafcokay on Jun 5, 2023 11:33:57 GMT 1
Before our first game in the Premier League David Wagner said something along the lines of "we are the smallest club ever in the Premier League". It was bollocks then and is still bollocks now, I hated that mentality from the club, the management and the fans as well, they certainly played their part in it.
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Post by htafcokay on Jun 5, 2023 11:37:31 GMT 1
Some right bollocks being written on here about fans accepting we’re a L1 club, small club mentality etc. All it seemed to need to trigger those opinions was a tweet from a loan player we had for half a season. Nowt as strange as folk… It's not bollocks. There's a lot of our fans who seem to think we are a League One club. Look at our attitude in the Premier League, "happy to be here", "we are the smallest club EVER in the PL", "don't care if we lose every game" and so on. Even this season during one of the Fotheringham's games, I was stood having a piss and overheard some guy saying "Oh well, back to normality next season, League One". Back to normality? We haven't been there for 11 years and even when we were there, it was only for eight years. In fact, out of the last 30 years, we've spent more time out of League One (third tier) than in it yet we still seem to have this mentality that we "belong" there.
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Post by turbo2 on Jun 5, 2023 11:38:37 GMT 1
Just seen this thread and was about to post the same. Not sure anyone at the Club has ever described us as 'big' before. We’ve always peddled ourselves to other players as a stepping stone club. Never a “join us and help us win promotion”, always a “join us to join a bigger club”. Hopefully that is going to change, and sentiment amongst the board and fans will be one of ambition and confidence. One thing I think will be helped with Hoyle leaving is forgetting the small club mindset. I dont mind us being a stepping stone club. In reality most clubs are, certainly much bigger clubs than us are. What i dont like is the underdog mentality. Its a game of 11 vs 11. Get on the pitch and have a go. Brighton who are also defo a stepping stone club have been showing no respect to any of the big clubs and Brentford the same.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Jun 5, 2023 11:44:53 GMT 1
Ah, that one bloke, having a piss and jokingly doing the self deprecating thing…
If it helps I’d say we’re a good solid top 30 club with the fanbase & the catchment area we have. I think that’s pretty decent.
What do people term as ‘ambition’? Maybe that’s the way to look at this. If you asked me that Q I’d probably say a yo-yo club wouldn’t be a bad outcome. I’ve no delusions of achieving 7th place in the corruption of the PL.
Would people also want us to become a pseudo Man C or Chelsea etc., and buy our way to success? Would that be ambition, or would we just join what seems like a growing number of clubs who are prepared to pawn the family silver while the good times roll in these TV money laden times? That wouldn’t feel like ‘ambition’ to me, it’d feel a bit plastic.
Nobody has a clue how this new owner will turn out, but I can guarantee that if it’s not the ‘ambition’ that some on here wish for, they’ll be throwing fried chicken at his car…
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Post by htafcokay on Jun 5, 2023 11:47:53 GMT 1
Ah, that one bloke, having a piss and jokingly doing the self deprecating thing…If it helps I’d say we’re a good solid top 30 club with the fanbase & the catchment area we have. I think that’s pretty decent. What do people term as ‘ambition’? Maybe that’s the way to look at this. If you asked me that Q I’d probably say a yo-yo club wouldn’t be a bad outcome. I’ve no delusions of achieving 7th place in the corruption of the PL. Would people also want us to become a pseudo Man C or Chelsea etc., and buy our way to success? Would that be ambition, or would we just join what seems like a growing number of clubs who are prepared to pawn the family silver while the good times roll in these TV money laden times? That wouldn’t feel like ‘ambition’ to me, it’d feel a bit plastic. Nobody has a clue how this new owner will turn out, but I can guarantee that if it’s not the ‘ambition’ that some on here wish for, they’ll be throwing fried chicken at his car… More than one bloke. Have you forgotten the Premier League era where we spent almost every week apologising for being there? Clapping oppositions players and managers for fucks sake. Constant cries of "enjoy the ride", "let's be happy to be here", or one of the club's directors saying "who cares if we get relegated?". Our attitude in the Premier League stank to high heaven, I'd rather we'd have taken the attitude of Brighton and Brentford and not given a flying fuck about showing respect to anyone. It's very easy to just blame the club for this mentality but the fans were the ones that championed it and continued to peddle the myth that we didn't deserve to be in the Premier League.
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