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Post by kayeb222 on Feb 20, 2023 17:20:36 GMT 1
Warnock says he wants a part-time job for a few days a week or a few months a year. Why not offer him the Director of football role? He could surely find decent signings with all his contacts in the game,he could do a lot of that from home and just travel when needed. Then he could come in for a few weeks in pre-season to tell the players and coaches what he expects and teach them the game plans he wants them to follow. He could come in every month for a team meeting with the players and coaches and address any problems. Then in Feb/March he could come in if necessary to aid with a promotion push or to save us from relegation. Like Warnock says "people don't value experience as much these days". I could think of worse ideas than that!! Surely it's an improvement.
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Post by Essex Terrier on Feb 20, 2023 17:41:07 GMT 1
Thank you Sharon - we'll let you know.
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Post by tepidterrier on Feb 20, 2023 17:45:34 GMT 1
As he says himself, Warnock's strength is in man management, turning bad players average, and average players good. Some incredible finds during his first spell with us, but not so much in the last decade or so.
I also think there's a lot more work in a DOF role than can be filled in that amount of time.
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Post by kayeb222 on Feb 20, 2023 17:47:21 GMT 1
Thank you Sharon - we'll let you know. Lol. My husband loves Huddersfield and so do I. Thought it was worth trying to blag him an easy job!! I didn't think anyone would sus my true identity so easily!! |
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Post by kayeb222 on Feb 20, 2023 17:51:43 GMT 1
As he says himself, Warnock's strength is in man management, turning bad players average, and average players good. Some incredible finds during his first spell with us, but not so much in the last decade or so. I also think there's a lot more work in a DOF role than can be filled in that amount of time. Director of football is a relatively new job title and we managed for decades without them. I think it would be worth trying to do it differently and if it doesn't work out then we can go back to what we are doing now,it can't be too much worse than this season so far! |
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Post by hthp on Feb 20, 2023 18:02:11 GMT 1
As he says himself, Warnock's strength is in man management, turning bad players average, and average players good. Some incredible finds during his first spell with us, but not so much in the last decade or so. I also think there's a lot more work in a DOF role than can be filled in that amount of time. Director of football is a relatively new job title and we managed for decades without them. I think it would be worth trying to do it differently and if it doesn't work out then we can go back to what we are doing now,it can't be too much worse than this season so far! We've still never had a Director of Football. |
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Post by Tinpot on Feb 20, 2023 18:03:32 GMT 1
The hours that it would take up to do the job properly are significantly more than NW has said he wants to do, but if a part time role (e.g. on a consultancy basis) could be found for him I'd be bloody delighted to have him on board.
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Post by kayeb222 on Feb 20, 2023 18:13:54 GMT 1
Director of football is a relatively new job title and we managed for decades without them. I think it would be worth trying to do it differently and if it doesn't work out then we can go back to what we are doing now,it can't be too much worse than this season so far! We've still never had a Director of Football. I thought head of football operations was the same thing? |
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Post by Mastercracker on Feb 20, 2023 18:16:40 GMT 1
He's absolutely brilliant at what he's doing now - building a team from scraps into an effective unit, firefighting, giving people confidence. The problems start when he starts signing players - www.transfermarkt.co.uk/neil-warnock/spielertransfers/trainer/1527There's some right crap on there, for decent money in a lot of cases. Not ideal for a DOF really. |
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Post by kayeb222 on Feb 20, 2023 18:22:19 GMT 1
He's absolutely brilliant at what he's doing now - building a team from scraps into an effective unit, firefighting, giving people confidence. The problems start when he starts signing players - www.transfermarkt.co.uk/neil-warnock/spielertransfers/trainer/1527There's some right crap on there, for decent money in a lot of cases. Not ideal for a DOF really. I'm sure they could find something that works. Maybe the new manager could suggest the players he is interested in signing and Warnock could do the rest. I bet he could be very persuasive and talk the players into signing with us!! |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2023 18:24:18 GMT 1
We've still never had a Director of Football. I thought head of football operations was the same thing? My understanding (which might well be completely wrong!) is: Head of football operations is more logistics; looking after loans, player digs / welfare, contracts, travel, day-to-day stuff. Director of football is more strategic; footballing style / philosophy, scouting, succession planning. Happy to be corrected! |
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Post by kayeb222 on Feb 20, 2023 18:32:25 GMT 1
I thought head of football operations was the same thing? My understanding (which might well be completely wrong!) is: Head of football operations is more logistics; looking after loans, player digs / welfare, contracts, travel, day-to-day stuff. Director of football is more strategic; footballing style / philosophy, scouting, succession planning. Happy to be corrected! I think Director of football is something that might be worth trying with Warnock then. Strategy,style, philosophy definitely. |
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Post by Tiro on Feb 20, 2023 18:57:10 GMT 1
Warnock says he wants a part-time job for a few days a week or a few months a year. Why not offer him the Director of football role? He could surely find decent signings with all his contacts in the game,he could do a lot of that from home and just travel when needed. Then he could come in for a few weeks in pre-season to tell the players and coaches what he expects and teach them the game plans he wants them to follow. He could come in every month for a team meeting with the players and coaches and address any problems. Then in Feb/March he could come in if necessary to aid with a promotion push or to save us from relegation. Like Warnock says "people don't value experience as much these days". I could think of worse ideas than that!! Surely it's an improvement. It’s not a bad shout. But he also said he wanted a role where he could still live in Cornwall. I don’t think a remote DoF would work/have the right impact. |
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Post by sabailand on Feb 20, 2023 18:58:40 GMT 1
He's absolutely brilliant at what he's doing now - building a team from scraps into an effective unit, firefighting, giving people confidence. The problems start when he starts signing players - www.transfermarkt.co.uk/neil-warnock/spielertransfers/trainer/1527There's some right crap on there, for decent money in a lot of cases. Not ideal for a DOF really. Not going to dispute any of that, but i remember a video i saw on here not long ago recounting his time here with Andy Booth, him and Mick jones went to Watch one of his targets Darren Bullock playing for Nuneaton, Bullock won an header won a tackle and got booked all in the first 5-10 minutes and Warnock walked off, Mick jones said where you off and Warnock replied 'home, we're signing him'.  His actual signings for us were good, i suppose two wembley visits and a promotion validates that. |
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Post by kayeb222 on Feb 20, 2023 19:05:30 GMT 1
Warnock says he wants a part-time job for a few days a week or a few months a year. Why not offer him the Director of football role? He could surely find decent signings with all his contacts in the game,he could do a lot of that from home and just travel when needed. Then he could come in for a few weeks in pre-season to tell the players and coaches what he expects and teach them the game plans he wants them to follow. He could come in every month for a team meeting with the players and coaches and address any problems. Then in Feb/March he could come in if necessary to aid with a promotion push or to save us from relegation. Like Warnock says "people don't value experience as much these days". I could think of worse ideas than that!! Surely it's an improvement. It’s not a bad shout. But he also said he wanted a role where he could still live in Cornwall. I don’t think a remote DoF would work/have the right impact. Maybe your right. But he could maybe do the odd bits via zoom and then come back to Huddersfield for a few weeks/months here and there or a few days a week perhaps. It's not ideal but I'm sure they could come to some sort of agreement that will suit both parties. |
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Post by workshyfop on Feb 20, 2023 19:05:52 GMT 1
The trouble with Warnock signing players is he can turn a rough diamond into a good footballer, but not every manager can. Bullock was great for Town (admittedly under Horton too for a time), but not for anyone else.
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Post by Teddington Ted on Feb 20, 2023 19:08:28 GMT 1
I reckon there’d be a touch of Barry Fry in his negotiating technique….
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Post by kayeb222 on Feb 20, 2023 19:14:18 GMT 1
I reckon there’d be a touch of Barry Fry in his negotiating technique…. lol. "Ow Arya mayte? Ope your goals darnt put us darn". Then. "nah,nah,nah mayte you ain't gonna fackin get that. Fackin ell you ain't gonna get that"!!!! Lol "sold to the fat barstaad in the blue blazer" |
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Post by Tinpot on Feb 20, 2023 19:29:04 GMT 1
Sports psychologist?
Let's be honest, that's where he's at his best, man-management.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2023 19:45:41 GMT 1
Sports psychologist? Let's be honest, that's where he's at his best, man-management. I'm not really down with the kids, but I think what you're alluding to is what youngsters call a "Hype Man". For real. |
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Post by Oblong of Dreams on Feb 20, 2023 19:49:03 GMT 1
Warnock says he wants a part-time job for a few days a week or a few months a year. Why not offer him the Director of football role? He could surely find decent signings with all his contacts in the game,he could do a lot of that from home and just travel when needed. Then he could come in for a few weeks in pre-season to tell the players and coaches what he expects and teach them the game plans he wants them to follow. He could come in every month for a team meeting with the players and coaches and address any problems. Then in Feb/March he could come in if necessary to aid with a promotion push or to save us from relegation. Like Warnock says "people don't value experience as much these days". I could think of worse ideas than that!! Surely it's an improvement. Saw a thread with this title and thought "Bromby gone? Thank fook for that" Alas, just a tease! |
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Post by Oblong of Dreams on Feb 20, 2023 19:54:19 GMT 1
He's absolutely brilliant at what he's doing now - building a team from scraps into an effective unit, firefighting, giving people confidence. The problems start when he starts signing players - www.transfermarkt.co.uk/neil-warnock/spielertransfers/trainer/1527There's some right crap on there, for decent money in a lot of cases. Not ideal for a DOF really. Not going to dispute any of that, but i remember a video i saw on here not long ago recounting his time here with Andy Booth, him and Mick jones went to Watch one of his targets Darren Bullock playing for Nuneaton, Bullock won an header won a tackle and got booked all in the first 5-10 minutes and Warnock walked off, Mick jones said where you off and Warnock replied 'home, we're signing him'. His actual signings for us were good, i suppose two wembley visits and a promotion validates that. Quality of Warnock signings was inversely proportional to the transfer fee... or at least it seemed that way. Remember him snapping up Gary Crosby on a free from Scabby Trees midway through the season, he was real quality for the third tier. |
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Post by midge on Feb 20, 2023 20:01:16 GMT 1
Warnock says he wants a part-time job for a few days a week or a few months a year. Why not offer him the Director of football role? He could surely find decent signings with all his contacts in the game,he could do a lot of that from home and just travel when needed. Then he could come in for a few weeks in pre-season to tell the players and coaches what he expects and teach them the game plans he wants them to follow. He could come in every month for a team meeting with the players and coaches and address any problems. Then in Feb/March he could come in if necessary to aid with a promotion push or to save us from relegation. Like Warnock says "people don't value experience as much these days". I could think of worse ideas than that!! Surely it's an improvement. Saw a thread with this title and thought "Bromby gone? Thank fook for that" Alas, just a tease! Bromby in has list of signings! Never knew that!? …as is Jason Puncheon and Tyrone Thompson(twice)!😬 |
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Post by Fish & Chips on Feb 20, 2023 20:15:27 GMT 1
We need to keep NW in some capacity. Senior / Consultant Coach / Manager, an advisory role most of the season...then for the last 3 months of each season he physically gets stuck in and rescues us from relegation!  |
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Post by kayeb222 on Feb 20, 2023 20:19:47 GMT 1
We need to keep NW in some capacity. Senior / Consultant Coach / Manager, an advisory role most of the season...then for the last 3 months of each season he physically gets stuck in and rescues us from relegation! Yeah that's what I thought when I made the thread,I'm sure we can use his experience and find a job for him that suits both parties. |
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Post by Teddington Ted on Feb 20, 2023 21:12:59 GMT 1
He’d be a terrible appointment. He’s an all or nothing man. Can anyone see him sitting back, not getting involved in the dressing room and wearing his suit in the director’s box on match day?
It’s like saying ‘Danny Schofield’s a good coach, let’s make him the manager’.
Sentimental drivel.
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Post by Tinpot on Feb 20, 2023 21:21:50 GMT 1
Not going to dispute any of that, but i remember a video i saw on here not long ago recounting his time here with Andy Booth, him and Mick jones went to Watch one of his targets Darren Bullock playing for Nuneaton, Bullock won an header won a tackle and got booked all in the first 5-10 minutes and Warnock walked off, Mick jones said where you off and Warnock replied 'home, we're signing him'. His actual signings for us were good, i suppose two wembley visits and a promotion validates that. Quality of Warnock signings was inversely proportional to the transfer fee... or at least it seemed that way. Remember him snapping up Gary Crosby on a free from Scabby Trees midway through the season, he was real quality for the third tier. Pretty much the story of our club. The entirety of last season's squad cost what, £3m? Compare with the business done in summer 2018, where we didn't get much change out of £50m for Kongolo, Mbenza, Diakhaby, Pritchard. |
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Post by kayeb222 on Feb 20, 2023 21:26:16 GMT 1
Quality of Warnock signings was inversely proportional to the transfer fee... or at least it seemed that way. Remember him snapping up Gary Crosby on a free from Scabby Trees midway through the season, he was real quality for the third tier. Pretty much the story of our club. The entirety of last season's squad cost what, £3m? Compare with the business done in summer 2018, where we didn't get much change out of £50m for Kongolo, Mbenza, Diakhaby, Pritchard. It's painful thinking about the 10s of millions we pissed up the wall on absolute f*#king moomins! Imagine where we could be now if the money was invested wisely. |
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Post by waggers on Feb 20, 2023 21:39:36 GMT 1
Pretty much the story of our club. The entirety of last season's squad cost what, £3m? Compare with the business done in summer 2018, where we didn't get much change out of £50m for Kongolo, Mbenza, Diakhaby, Pritchard. It's painful thinking about the 10s of millions we pissed up the wall on absolute f*#king moomins! Imagine where we could be now if the money was invested wisely. It's too painful I've banned myself from revisiting that topic. There's always a chance we sneak into the Prem again (got to avoid relegation first) and learn the lessons from 18/19. |
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Post by kayeb222 on Feb 20, 2023 21:50:43 GMT 1
It's painful thinking about the 10s of millions we pissed up the wall on absolute f*#king moomins! Imagine where we could be now if the money was invested wisely. It's too painful I've banned myself from revisiting that topic. There's always a chance we sneak into the Prem again (got to avoid relegation first) and learn the lessons from 18/19. Imagine if we'd just spent 20 million on 3 or 4 proven premiership players to add to the squad that got us promoted. We might have got relegated but it would have saved the pain of the 2nd prem season and we would still have had a chunk of cash left to try again the following season!! |
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