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Post by Leporid on Mar 22, 2023 16:40:17 GMT 1
Apart from a few light hearted puns, I’ve not expanded any energy on the takeover situation, predominantly because I’m far away from any inside information, but I have read every post with interest of course but I’m unable to influence who it will eventually be or won’t... However I’ve been on to the club today regarding tickets, matchday Sky conformation dates, the club shop, and finally the main club switchboard - and NOBODY is answering phones in any division - (the shop did yesterday) - Are they being called to a meeting about administration... or a meeting about the new owners... or maybe it’s just the dinner hour and all have nipped up to The Yorkshire Rose for their lunch break ! You don't need anymore expanding Westie. Anyway no point in worrying what's happening with the Dutch-courage mon brave! There's no worth in those of us with no information clogging up the board with speculation about the American, or Dutch auction for Town, as it's as dull as ditch water. Barge into the thread if you like by all means though. There's barn to be some twists and turns ahead, but let's hope the final deal is for the gouda of the club. |
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Mar 22, 2023 16:40:53 GMT 1
Anyone have an idea when an update or announcement is likely to be made?
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Post by goodbet on Mar 22, 2023 16:42:36 GMT 1
Hoyle still having involvement in the club for two to three years? And thats coming from Htafc35. Im not going to jump to conclusions but its not sounding great is it. Two things really. 1, did you follow the club before hoyles involvement? Its really not been anything other than a very good era for this club..dont lose sight of that. 2, he'd presumably be a small stakeholder with no actual decision making power at all. So I struggle to see what part of him still being involved for a period people are worried about, even if they've decided he is the devil incarnate. I think that people are concerned that if Dean is still involved, there will be a continuation of the bleeding of funds away from the club, that they would rather was spent on the team. They don't want to see the continuation of the budget cuts! It is all speculation but any continued involvement by Dean in the club would be a concern to me. |
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Post by sabailand on Mar 22, 2023 16:48:36 GMT 1
Anyone have an idea when an update or announcement is likely to be made? Walking down the street today a neighbours cat sat under a car told me an update on the situation was imminent(and theres about as much fact in that as whats been posted on here lately). |
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Post by samhudds on Mar 22, 2023 16:57:50 GMT 1
Where did Nixon suggest it could be a smokescreen? Isn't he good friends with Baldwin?
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Post by waggers on Mar 22, 2023 16:58:49 GMT 1
If I were to guess I dare say there is plenty info Maynard holds back.If he didn’t I think you would probably see what a real frenzy was. The way some hang onto his every word.. or even his every like.. if I was him Id have some right fun on here winding them up! To be honest I think he does a bit anyway. You seem a bit jealous of Maynard... |
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Post by Captainslapper on Mar 22, 2023 17:15:48 GMT 1
Two things really. 1, did you follow the club before hoyles involvement? Its really not been anything other than a very good era for this club..dont lose sight of that. 2, he'd presumably be a small stakeholder with no actual decision making power at all. So I struggle to see what part of him still being involved for a period people are worried about, even if they've decided he is the devil incarnate. I guess because the fact he needs to stay around, like in the Phil deal, either means: 1) The Dutch can't afford to buy the club outright immediately - brilliant. 2) He wants to cling on to a small amount of power and continue having a say - not good either. There is simply no positive scenario whereby Dean is still involved medium-term - this is why it potentially stinks if it does transpire that he isn't just here for the 6 month transition phase. If it was a clean, 100% immediate sale I think the majority would be less concerned. Personally I'd much rather the Americans anyway, but the AZ lot buying us outright and starting clean certainly wouldn't alarm me either. I honestly think he will be desperate to not be involved in the clubs ownership. He must be thoroughly sick of it...the stress,,,, the financial responsibility,,, the acrimony he gets.. If hes staying on I would be very surprised if it isnt at the request of the new owners for what could be any one or more of various reasons. Its REALLY common in business for people to stay involved for a period of time after a business is sold during a transition period. Someone who knows the club, the fans, the area, the council, the FA, the EFL, etc etc etc Even in the Phil deal, it was stated that PH would take the remainder of Hoyles stake off him over a period of time.. that was the plan. ( and it turned out to be very good news for HTFC that he didnt have chance to take all 100% ) from the little we know,, or think we know,,,I dont see any reason to favour the US option other than they supposedly have a lot more money. Which of course means nothing really as there are so many examples where that doesnt translate into the owner pumping huge amounts of it into their club. or even being successful when they do. The dutch option may have less money behind it, but they do have a proven track record of running a club very well and maintaining a level of success by doing that....AZ are effectively a dutch Brentford or Brighton. Might be the dull option, but it seems the sensible one to me. |
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Post by kennyk2 on Mar 22, 2023 17:21:04 GMT 1
For me it's got to be, Davidson, Ullman, Trinder, Carson and Hancock  The video of Matt Hancock with his girlfriend is funny, but he's not that funny! I wouldn't give an armful to see him anyway 😉 Too cryptic for my own good. |
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Post by Melc on Mar 22, 2023 17:21:34 GMT 1
Where did Nixon suggest it could be a smokescreen? Isn't he good friends with Baldwin? Nixon tweet Yesterday… Two interested parties … so always wary of ‘results’ being leaked before the final decision … people play games at this stage. All over. |
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Post by COWSHEDPHIL on Mar 22, 2023 17:22:03 GMT 1
I guess because the fact he needs to stay around, like in the Phil deal, either means: 1) The Dutch can't afford to buy the club outright immediately - brilliant. 2) He wants to cling on to a small amount of power and continue having a say - not good either. There is simply no positive scenario whereby Dean is still involved medium-term - this is why it potentially stinks if it does transpire that he isn't just here for the 6 month transition phase. If it was a clean, 100% immediate sale I think the majority would be less concerned. Personally I'd much rather the Americans anyway, but the AZ lot buying us outright and starting clean certainly wouldn't alarm me either. I honestly think he will be desperate to not be involved in the clubs ownership. He must be thoroughly sick of it...the stress,,,, the financial responsibility,,, the acrimony he gets.. If hes staying on I would be very surprised if it isnt at the request of the new owners for what could be any one or more of various reasons. Its REALLY common in business for people to stay involved for a period of time after a business is sold during a transition period. Someone who knows the club, the fans, the area, the council, the FA, the EFL, etc etc etc Even in the Phil deal, it was stated that PH would take the remainder of Hoyles stake off him over a period of time.. that was the plan. ( and it turned out to be very good news for HTFC that he didnt have chance to take all 100% ) from the little we know,, or think we know,,,I dont see any reason to favour the US option other than they supposedly have a lot more money. Which of course means nothing really as there are so many examples where that doesnt translate into the owner pumping huge amounts of it into their club. or even being successful when they do. The dutch option may have less money behind it, but they do have a proven track record of running a club very well and maintaining a level of success by doing that....AZ are effectively a dutch Brentford or Brighton. Might be the dull option, but it seems the sensible one to me. I wish people would start remembering Brightons owner has put 500 million in!! Not sure about Brentford but I’m sure it’s not been cheap to scout the best players. They also spent 7 million on Toney in the championship, with small crowds |
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Post by Captainslapper on Mar 22, 2023 17:23:01 GMT 1
Two things really. 1, did you follow the club before hoyles involvement? Its really not been anything other than a very good era for this club..dont lose sight of that. 2, he'd presumably be a small stakeholder with no actual decision making power at all. So I struggle to see what part of him still being involved for a period people are worried about, even if they've decided he is the devil incarnate. I think that people are concerned that if Dean is still involved, there will be a continuation of the bleeding of funds away from the club, that they would rather was spent on the team. They don't want to see the continuation of the budget cuts! It is all speculation but any continued involvement by Dean in the club would be a concern to me. The new owners would set the budgets. They arent going to buy the club to let someone else run it. Hoyle has been bleeding funds INTO the club, not out of it!! If youre income had dropped by about 70% would that not make you lower your household budgets as best you can? What else was the club supposed to do? |
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Post by Dan on Mar 22, 2023 17:25:08 GMT 1
I honestly think he will be desperate to not be involved in the clubs ownership. He must be thoroughly sick of it...the stress,,,, the financial responsibility,,, the acrimony he gets.. If hes staying on I would be very surprised if it isnt at the request of the new owners for what could be any one or more of various reasons. Its REALLY common in business for people to stay involved for a period of time after a business is sold during a transition period. Someone who knows the club, the fans, the area, the council, the FA, the EFL, etc etc etc Even in the Phil deal, it was stated that PH would take the remainder of Hoyles stake off him over a period of time.. that was the plan. ( and it turned out to be very good news for HTFC that he didnt have chance to take all 100% ) from the little we know,, or think we know,,,I dont see any reason to favour the US option other than they supposedly have a lot more money. Which of course means nothing really as there are so many examples where that doesnt translate into the owner pumping huge amounts of it into their club. or even being successful when they do. The dutch option may have less money behind it, but they do have a proven track record of running a club very well and maintaining a level of success by doing that....AZ are effectively a dutch Brentford or Brighton. Might be the dull option, but it seems the sensible one to me. I wish people would start remembering Brightons owner has put 500 million in!! Not sure about Brentford but I’m sure it’s not been cheap to scout the best players. They also spent 7 million on Toney in the championship, with small crowds They spent 7 mil on Toney only after they'd sold Watkins for 27 million to be fair |
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Post by desertstorm on Mar 22, 2023 17:25:29 GMT 1
It’s been mentioned on this thread that another party reads this group. What a fantastic way to try and manipulate interested parties into action.
I don’t doubt the credibility of some posters on here, but perhaps they are being drip fed information with a twist.
Bottom line - Don’t believe everything you read. It’s not over yet.
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Post by bells ringing :) on Mar 22, 2023 17:26:44 GMT 1
It’s been mentioned on this thread that another party reads this group. What a fantastic way to try and manipulate interested parties into action. I don’t doubt the credibility of some posters on here, but perhaps they are being drip fed information with a twist. Bottom line - Don’t believe everything you read. It’s not over yet. Have you heard different to the OP? |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Mar 22, 2023 17:27:56 GMT 1
I honestly think he will be desperate to not be involved in the clubs ownership. He must be thoroughly sick of it...the stress,,,, the financial responsibility,,, the acrimony he gets.. If hes staying on I would be very surprised if it isnt at the request of the new owners for what could be any one or more of various reasons. Its REALLY common in business for people to stay involved for a period of time after a business is sold during a transition period. Someone who knows the club, the fans, the area, the council, the FA, the EFL, etc etc etc Even in the Phil deal, it was stated that PH would take the remainder of Hoyles stake off him over a period of time.. that was the plan. ( and it turned out to be very good news for HTFC that he didnt have chance to take all 100% ) from the little we know,, or think we know,,,I dont see any reason to favour the US option other than they supposedly have a lot more money. Which of course means nothing really as there are so many examples where that doesnt translate into the owner pumping huge amounts of it into their club. or even being successful when they do. The dutch option may have less money behind it, but they do have a proven track record of running a club very well and maintaining a level of success by doing that....AZ are effectively a dutch Brentford or Brighton. Might be the dull option, but it seems the sensible one to me. I wish people would start remembering Brightons owner has put 500 million in!! Not sure about Brentford but I’m sure it’s not been cheap to scout the best players. They also spent 7 million on Toney in the championship, with small crowds Building a new stadium and training ground in the process. |
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Post by desertstorm on Mar 22, 2023 17:30:03 GMT 1
It’s been mentioned on this thread that another party reads this group. What a fantastic way to try and manipulate interested parties into action. I don’t doubt the credibility of some posters on here, but perhaps they are being drip fed information with a twist. Bottom line - Don’t believe everything you read. It’s not over yet. Have you heard different to the OP? I’m not talking double Dutch just yet :-) |
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Post by Champers on Mar 22, 2023 17:30:14 GMT 1
We should have a takeover every season. Way more exciting than the shit we have to watch most Saturdays.
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Post by bells ringing :) on Mar 22, 2023 17:31:51 GMT 1
Have you heard different to the OP? I’m not talking double Dutch just yet :-) So its not a cert that the Dutch have sealed the deal? are other groups, or group in the running ? Living in america as such haha or others? |
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Post by Orinoco on Mar 22, 2023 17:32:46 GMT 1
I honestly don't think there is 1 poster on this board who does not appreciate what Dean has contributed to the club since he took over, memories have been created that we will all never forget, unfortunately he has made a mess of it also since survival in 1st prem season.
The club needs a fresh start, everyone knows that, if this deal is true and Dean is remaining in the day to day running of the club, unfortunately I can only see a lot of supporters saying enough is enough.
He needs to do the right thing and walk away, he says that is what he wants, so if this rumour is true he will make an even bigger rod for his back amongst the supporters if nothing changes.
He did state he never expected any of his investment back, but the unexpected promotion to the big time seemed to trigger greed somehow, only he knows how his mind works, but an individual who takes over a football club surely cant expect to make money?, he spent money in his 1st season like he was like a lottery winner and saying look at me I'm the centre of attention.
Like a lot have stated on here, he could have made money back with the parachute payments, but the 2nd season recruitment was a shambles and the club has suffered since. Fresh start please, no offence Dean,if you are a true fan please let the club move on, iam certainly grateful for the memories you have provided in your time at the club.
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Post by goodbet on Mar 22, 2023 17:32:53 GMT 1
I think that people are concerned that if Dean is still involved, there will be a continuation of the bleeding of funds away from the club, that they would rather was spent on the team. They don't want to see the continuation of the budget cuts! It is all speculation but any continued involvement by Dean in the club would be a concern to me. The new owners would set the budgets. They arent going to buy the club to let someone else run it. Hoyle has been bleeding funds INTO the club, not out of it!! If youre income had dropped by about 70% would that not make you lower your household budgets as best you can? What else was the club supposed to do? Why would Dean want to stick around, the obvious reason was to see that he got as much money back as he could! The new owners would set the budget with Dean sitting at the table. If this is the case the deal dose not appear to be the best deal for the club. |
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Post by dbterrier32 on Mar 22, 2023 17:33:50 GMT 1
To be honest, I'm not 100% sure anything would work with Town fans in relation to improving the experience around the ground. It may be ok for a few weeks but will just die off then. Look at the food zone type area they introduced this season. Was packed with about 5/6 different stalls in the car park area near the cinema for the 1st few home games. Then it just started dying a death. It is now just a beer stand and a hot dog stand in the lay by out side the main stand. I think it would need a drastic change in facilities and mentality from all involved to try get some kind of permanent change/experience. I don’t wish to sound like a curmudgeon, but that sort of pre and post match entertainment thing is not the mentality of the English football supporter IMHO. For that to work you’d have to be a staple within the PL and have the footfall to make it work for the vendors. For me that sort of thing is a little bit plastic for English football, the theory that the English game would ever see tailgate BBQ’s etc. would be the point the game loses its soul. I’m not decrying how that happens in the US, but we’re chalk and cheese in our mentality towards the 90 minute football experience. I didn’t mean it in the full blown yank experience. Fully agree us brits won’t buy into that shit. I once went to indoor American Football in Florida and the sights I saw there were unbelievable. But just trying to improve the experience overall would be a struggle. |
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Post by Sio on Mar 22, 2023 17:34:56 GMT 1
I guess because the fact he needs to stay around, like in the Phil deal, either means: 1) The Dutch can't afford to buy the club outright immediately - brilliant. 2) He wants to cling on to a small amount of power and continue having a say - not good either. There is simply no positive scenario whereby Dean is still involved medium-term - this is why it potentially stinks if it does transpire that he isn't just here for the 6 month transition phase. If it was a clean, 100% immediate sale I think the majority would be less concerned. Personally I'd much rather the Americans anyway, but the AZ lot buying us outright and starting clean certainly wouldn't alarm me either. I honestly think he will be desperate to not be involved in the clubs ownership. He must be thoroughly sick of it...the stress,,,, the financial responsibility,,, the acrimony he gets.. If hes staying on I would be very surprised if it isnt at the request of the new owners for what could be any one or more of various reasons. Its REALLY common in business for people to stay involved for a period of time after a business is sold during a transition period. Someone who knows the club, the fans, the area, the council, the FA, the EFL, etc etc etc Even in the Phil deal, it was stated that PH would take the remainder of Hoyles stake off him over a period of time.. that was the plan. ( and it turned out to be very good news for HTFC that he didnt have chance to take all 100% ) from the little we know,, or think we know,,,I dont see any reason to favour the US option other than they supposedly have a lot more money. Which of course means nothing really as there are so many examples where that doesnt translate into the owner pumping huge amounts of it into their club. or even being successful when they do. The dutch option may have less money behind it, but they do have a proven track record of running a club very well and maintaining a level of success by doing that....AZ are effectively a dutch Brentford or Brighton. Might be the dull option, but it seems the sensible one to me. As I say, I've no real negative feeling towards the Dutch option other than - from what I've heard - it sounds far less ambitious, and after several years of us downplaying ourselves as a club I'd love for someone to come in all-guns-blazing and reverse the mindset, even if it is a riskier game to play. Obviously this puts a lot of faith in them to do that too, which they could certainly not do. However, as I say, 90% of my concern lies in why Hoyle may need to stick around. 6 months I would understand if the EFL process runs slowly - no trouble. Any longer and there is a deeper reason. You've referenced Hoyle hanging around during the Phil deal - that's not a positive comparison. We know why Dean stayed on there. For me, Hoyle has a responsibility in explaining his reasons if he does decide to stick around, otherwise people will rightly make the assumption that it is purely financial - and that reflects badly on everyone involved. Either the Dutch can afford to buy us, or they can't. Either Dean wants to leave, or he doesn't. It will all be obvious in the eventual structure of the deal. |
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Post by samhudds on Mar 22, 2023 17:41:20 GMT 1
Where did Nixon suggest it could be a smokescreen? Isn't he good friends with Baldwin? Nixon tweet Yesterday… Two interested parties … so always wary of ‘results’ being leaked before the final decision … people play games at this stage. All over. Thanks Melc, interesting too as this could well have come from Baldwin. |
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Post by rothwellterrier on Mar 22, 2023 17:42:11 GMT 1
We should have a takeover every season. Way more exciting than the shit we have to watch most Saturdays. I had hoped it would be all sorted by next Monday as that’s when Succession is back on TV. I can only concentrate on one lot of scheming powermongers at once  |
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Post by softboy on Mar 22, 2023 17:43:33 GMT 1
Let’s assume we are in the ‘Here and Now’ And we cannot change history. As I see it DH has 2 options today. Take some sort of deal that may lead to a full takeover, may lead to him getting his money back, may lead to neither, may lead to both. Accept he may/will not get his money back, cut his losses, put the club in Administration, take the 12 point deduction now. Still no gtee than anyone would buy the club
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Post by townohiofan on Mar 22, 2023 17:53:04 GMT 1
OK great, understood - so presumably once the new buyers are approved he'll be off! not until the agreed deal is completed and paid up, very few deals for any business are instant and normally paid over over a number of years, the same way transfer fees are not paid in full, the time scale of this is not fixed and is down to a number of factors including what league we are in. DH will not be involved day to day at the club, and a new board and management structure will be in place, this to me is the key to it all Dean wants out but only in a way that works best for both HTAFC and for DH, he could easily get out sooner if he wanted a deal just to work for DH........ I see no way that DH can be completly out of the club at this time with any deals and the shortest possible time for DH to be completly out approx 6months but it could also be 2-3years or more until full ownership is completed (this is pretty much the same with any offer that has come been discussed). You are correct in saying that oftentimes deals of this type often have payment schedules over years. The unusual part would be if Hoyle would maintain a percentage of the club until paid off. That allows for the possibility of everything going back to Hoyle if things go up in smoke again. I understand your POV that allowing for that to occur is better to avoid administration (although sounds like we were awfully close by your assessment even with that arrangement) but it also is undoubtably better for Hoyle because he can go looking for another buyer to pay him off if this occurs again instead of having to try to collect from a party without that ability. So this arrangement would significantly lower the risk for Hoyle. Is there anything being done to lower risk for the buyer to recollect what they put into the club if the worst occurs? Is the change in risk being recognized by Hoyle agreeing to take a significant decrement to his asking price for a deal that would not involve him maintaining a stake in the club (post-fit and proper and test)? The worry here is that the consideration the Dutch are being given to engage in this type of relationship may be that they can make the payments over a longer time/less up front because of lack of funds. This would make it more likely that we are sitting in this same situation in the near future. |
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Mar 22, 2023 17:58:27 GMT 1
His investment is gone, may be he protected his club he supported for a life time? Just a thought, I think that isn't impossible but you have to factor in the poor decisions he presided over that led us here. He is still not a "bad" man, but he is capable of bad decisions. It is that which worries me most i.e. not so much his integrity but his judgement. Thats fair enough, i have some sympathy with that view. You have to remember at heart he has been a remarkable trader (market) selling greetings cards. He operated in a rigged and corrupt market that outside football would have SFO ripping it to shreds. I think he was like many owners of football clubs out of his depth dealing with crooks, pornographers, racists, murders and criminals. |
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Post by Captainslapper on Mar 22, 2023 17:58:30 GMT 1
The new owners would set the budgets. They arent going to buy the club to let someone else run it. Hoyle has been bleeding funds INTO the club, not out of it!! If youre income had dropped by about 70% would that not make you lower your household budgets as best you can? What else was the club supposed to do? Why would Dean want to stick around, the obvious reason was to see that he got as much money back as he could! The new owners would set the budget with Dean sitting at the table. If this is the case the deal dose not appear to be the best deal for the club. You dont have to stick around to get the money back you agree in a deal... its in the deal. You both sign it and leave them your bank details. If hes sticking around, then its probably because the new owners see a benefit in that and they persuaded him to agree to it,, reluctantly Id imagine. You cant possibly say what 'appears to be the best deal for the club' because like everyone else you have absolutely no idea what any of the deals are! |
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Post by desertstorm on Mar 22, 2023 18:00:46 GMT 1
I honestly don't think there is 1 poster on this board who does not appreciate what Dean has contributed to the club since he took over, memories have been created that we will all never forget, unfortunately he has made a mess of it also since survival in 1st prem season. The club needs a fresh start, everyone knows that, if this deal is true and Dean is remaining in the day to day running of the club, unfortunately I can only see a lot of supporters saying enough is enough. He needs to do the right thing and walk away, he says that is what he wants, so if this rumour is true he will make an even bigger rod for his back amongst the supporters if nothing changes. He did state he never expected any of his investment back, but the unexpected promotion to the big time seemed to trigger greed somehow, only he knows how his mind works, but an individual who takes over a football club surely cant expect to make money?, he spent money in his 1st season like he was like a lottery winner and saying look at me I'm the centre of attention. Like a lot have stated on here, he could have made money back with the parachute payments, but the 2nd season recruitment was a shambles and the club has suffered since. Fresh start please, no offence Dean,if you are a true fan please let the club move on, iam certainly grateful for the memories you have provided in your time at the club. I’ve no doubt about Deans intentions for the club, but believe over time due to various reasons, he has become conflicted between club and other influences away from the club. People mentioned him getting his money back. I believe our training facility does not belong to the club. Who funded the development of canalside, and have the club at any time made any payments to the holding company who owns Canalside. Interesting isn’t it, because if the club have funded the development and that has come out of the club and the training ground either being rented to the club or bought from DH, HTAFC are paying for something they’ve subsidised already. DH has the perfect opportunity to achieve what he wants (to walk away with his money and cut ties) but what’s stopping him ? Time to put egos aside. All is not cut and dry!! |
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Post by Captainslapper on Mar 22, 2023 18:03:04 GMT 1
I honestly don't think there is 1 poster on this board who does not appreciate what Dean has contributed to the club since he took over, memories have been created that we will all never forget, unfortunately he has made a mess of it also since survival in 1st prem season. The club needs a fresh start, everyone knows that, if this deal is true and Dean is remaining in the day to day running of the club, unfortunately I can only see a lot of supporters saying enough is enough. He needs to do the right thing and walk away, he says that is what he wants, so if this rumour is true he will make an even bigger rod for his back amongst the supporters if nothing changes. He did state he never expected any of his investment back, but the unexpected promotion to the big time seemed to trigger greed somehow, only he knows how his mind works, but an individual who takes over a football club surely cant expect to make money?, he spent money in his 1st season like he was like a lottery winner and saying look at me I'm the centre of attention. Like a lot have stated on here, he could have made money back with the parachute payments, but the 2nd season recruitment was a shambles and the club has suffered since. Fresh start please, no offence Dean,if you are a true fan please let the club move on, iam certainly grateful for the memories you have provided in your time at the club. I’ve no doubt about Deans intentions for the club, but believe over time due to various reasons, he has become conflicted between club and other influences away from the club. People mentioned him getting his money back. I believe our training facility does not belong to the club. Who funded the development of canalside, and have the club at any time made any payments to the holding company who owns Canalside. Interesting isn’t it, because if the club have funded the development and that has come out of the club and the training ground either being rented to the club or bought from DH, HTAFC are paying for something they’ve subsidised already. DH has the perfect opportunity to achieve what he wants (to walk away with his money and cut ties) but what’s stopping him ? Time to put egos aside. All is not cut and dry!! The club own canalside. It will be included in any sale. Hoyle owns the land Canalside is built on. |
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