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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Mar 22, 2023 18:03:06 GMT 1
Going from what you've read? On here? God help us Pretty much all I've got to go by! Maynards reaction to the spin htafc is putting on things says all you need to know I think. Maynard watch your back, Hoyle will be after you Maynard an unknown but informed poster commenting on postings of those on here can not be the basis of a judgement. A bit similar to "liking" the paint work on Boris's 360Million bus, without considering the validity of the message. Maynard may have his own agenda, most of us do. |
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Mar 22, 2023 18:04:03 GMT 1
A few of my thoughts from things within this thread. Mentioned that it is quite common for Ownership changes to take 2/3 years. Is it fuck. When Abramovich sold to Todd it was concluded in a few months. Pretty sure when Hull were taken over by the Turkish fella that didn’t drag on for years. There’s only one reason that our deal could be prolonged for years and that’s to try and facilitate Hoyle getting his loan back. Now I’m not ‘entitled’ as some may be accused of previously. I had absolutely no problem with Dean getting his money back under the previous circumstances and deal. But this stinks for HTAFC. I don’t care if his deal is 3.5million for the next 10 years, it’s money the club doesn’t have. In his own words the club needs 5-10million a season putting in just to stand still and operate at break even. So where in gods fucking name does the extra money come from for his repayment?! Maybe we’ll get lucky and the proposed new Dutch owners will be brilliant and unearth enough gems to either get us promoted or have enough saleable assets to facilitate his payments but I’m not holding my breath on that one. I agree with this, but I also don't begrudge the bloke his brass. Just have to hope hoyle is willing to take a real cut in what he's owed. If he walks away for 5-10 mill I could swallow that I think he'd be delighted  . |
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Mar 22, 2023 18:06:25 GMT 1
Two things really. 1, did you follow the club before hoyles involvement? Its really not been anything other than a very good era for this club..dont lose sight of that. 2, he'd presumably be a small stakeholder with no actual decision making power at all. So I struggle to see what part of him still being involved for a period people are worried about, even if they've decided he is the devil incarnate. I guess because the fact he needs to stay around, like in the Phil deal, either means: 1) The Dutch can't afford to buy the club outright immediately - brilliant. 2) He wants to cling on to a small amount of power and continue having a say - not good either. There is simply no positive scenario whereby Dean is still involved medium-term - this is why it potentially stinks if it does transpire that he isn't just here for the 6 month transition phase. If it was a clean, 100% immediate sale I think the majority would be less concerned. Personally I'd much rather the Americans anyway, but the AZ lot buying us outright and starting clean certainly wouldn't alarm me either. a 3rd option could be that he wishes to ensure the club isnt abused, a small ownership has no power but must be kept informed. It makes him the perfect whistle blower |
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Mar 22, 2023 18:08:33 GMT 1
If I were to guess I dare say there is plenty info Maynard holds back.If he didn’t I think you would probably see what a real frenzy was. The way some hang onto his every word.. or even his every like.. if I was him Id have some right fun on here winding them up! To be honest I think he does a bit anyway. beat me to it! |
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Post by Detective Boyle on Mar 22, 2023 18:10:41 GMT 1
Why would Dean want to stick around, the obvious reason was to see that he got as much money back as he could! The new owners would set the budget with Dean sitting at the table. If this is the case the deal dose not appear to be the best deal for the club. You dont have to stick around to get the money back you agree in a deal... its in the deal. You both sign it and leave them your bank details. If hes sticking around, then its probably because the new owners see a benefit in that and they persuaded him to agree to it,, reluctantly Id imagine. You cant possibly say what 'appears to be the best deal for the club' because like everyone else you have absolutely no idea what any of the deals are! If it turns out the Dutch have persuaded Hoyle to stay, then I’d be very concerned at their judgement and due diligence considering the mess Hoyle has made of the club. |
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Post by desertstorm on Mar 22, 2023 18:18:55 GMT 1
I’ve no doubt about Deans intentions for the club, but believe over time due to various reasons, he has become conflicted between club and other influences away from the club. People mentioned him getting his money back. I believe our training facility does not belong to the club. Who funded the development of canalside, and have the club at any time made any payments to the holding company who owns Canalside. Interesting isn’t it, because if the club have funded the development and that has come out of the club and the training ground either being rented to the club or bought from DH, HTAFC are paying for something they’ve subsidised already. DH has the perfect opportunity to achieve what he wants (to walk away with his money and cut ties) but what’s stopping him ? Time to put egos aside. All is not cut and dry!! The club own canalside. It will be included in any sale. Hoyle owns the land Canalside is built on. Why wasn’t it included with the original sale to PH ? |
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Post by Sio on Mar 22, 2023 18:33:04 GMT 1
I guess because the fact he needs to stay around, like in the Phil deal, either means: 1) The Dutch can't afford to buy the club outright immediately - brilliant. 2) He wants to cling on to a small amount of power and continue having a say - not good either. There is simply no positive scenario whereby Dean is still involved medium-term - this is why it potentially stinks if it does transpire that he isn't just here for the 6 month transition phase. If it was a clean, 100% immediate sale I think the majority would be less concerned. Personally I'd much rather the Americans anyway, but the AZ lot buying us outright and starting clean certainly wouldn't alarm me either. a 3rd option could be that he wishes to ensure the club isnt abused, a small ownership has no power but must be kept informed. It makes him the perfect whistle blower The irony in us needing Hoyle to save us from another party making a mess of us. |
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Post by isitjustme on Mar 22, 2023 18:33:37 GMT 1
Just can't help thinking, maybe we are keeping our gun powder dry, until we know for sure which division we are playing in next season. Lg1, sounds like the Yanks not interested, but the Dutch are. Championship, Yanks very interested along with Dutch, but Yanks with more financial clout. Possibly nonsense, but something that just keeps knocking on my head....!!!
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Post by softboy on Mar 22, 2023 18:37:20 GMT 1
So basically winning at Millwall, Cardiff not winning at Rotherham really has cocked things up.
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Post by Orinoco on Mar 22, 2023 18:45:34 GMT 1
I honestly don't think there is 1 poster on this board who does not appreciate what Dean has contributed to the club since he took over, memories have been created that we will all never forget, unfortunately he has made a mess of it also since survival in 1st prem season. The club needs a fresh start, everyone knows that, if this deal is true and Dean is remaining in the day to day running of the club, unfortunately I can only see a lot of supporters saying enough is enough. He needs to do the right thing and walk away, he says that is what he wants, so if this rumour is true he will make an even bigger rod for his back amongst the supporters if nothing changes. He did state he never expected any of his investment back, but the unexpected promotion to the big time seemed to trigger greed somehow, only he knows how his mind works, but an individual who takes over a football club surely cant expect to make money?, he spent money in his 1st season like he was like a lottery winner and saying look at me I'm the centre of attention. Like a lot have stated on here, he could have made money back with the parachute payments, but the 2nd season recruitment was a shambles and the club has suffered since. Fresh start please, no offence Dean,if you are a true fan please let the club move on, iam certainly grateful for the memories you have provided in your time at the club. I’ve no doubt about Deans intentions for the club, but believe over time due to various reasons, he has become conflicted between club and other influences away from the club. People mentioned him getting his money back. I believe our training facility does not belong to the club. Who funded the development of canalside, and have the club at any time made any payments to the holding company who owns Canalside. Interesting isn’t it, because if the club have funded the development and that has come out of the club and the training ground either being rented to the club or bought from DH, HTAFC are paying for something they’ve subsidised already. DH has the perfect opportunity to achieve what he wants (to walk away with his money and cut ties) but what’s stopping him ? Time to put egos aside. All is not cut and dry!! Like you say it's not all cut and dry,supporters are the blood of the club, without them may as well give up, there are some hardy long time passionate supporters on this board who are saying enough is enough and that takes a lot with what our age group has put up with, egos have to be put aside like you say, time to put the future of HTFC 1st. |
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Post by richhtfc on Mar 22, 2023 18:47:38 GMT 1
Pretty much all I've got to go by! Maynards reaction to the spin htafc is putting on things says all you need to know I think. Maynard watch your back, Hoyle will be after you Maynard an unknown but informed poster commenting on postings of those on here can not be the basis of a judgement. A bit similar to "liking" the paint work on Boris's 360Million bus, without considering the validity of the message. Maynard may have his own agenda, most of us do. Am I the only person in the world with Google? I mean I know who it is anyway but why nobody else has bothered to find out says a lot about the mentality of some on here. I thought ‘they’ were lovely in my dealings with ‘them’, but they definitely have an agenda in the situation, not entirely sure why. |
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Post by wigster on Mar 22, 2023 18:50:56 GMT 1
I guess because the fact he needs to stay around, like in the Phil deal, either means: 1) The Dutch can't afford to buy the club outright immediately - brilliant. 2) He wants to cling on to a small amount of power and continue having a say - not good either. There is simply no positive scenario whereby Dean is still involved medium-term - this is why it potentially stinks if it does transpire that he isn't just here for the 6 month transition phase. If it was a clean, 100% immediate sale I think the majority would be less concerned. Personally I'd much rather the Americans anyway, but the AZ lot buying us outright and starting clean certainly wouldn't alarm me either. a 3rd option could be that he wishes to ensure the club isnt abused, a small ownership has no power but must be kept informed. It makes him the perfect whistle blower So you're saying that he doesn't trust the people he's selling to !! I certainly hope he does. "We've agreed this deal, shaken hands and signed contracts - but, I'm staying involved in case I need to be a whistle blower ! Sounds like the Hoyle/Hodgkinson deal all over again. From what I've read (bloody little thanks to NDA's), I wouldn't trust DH or PH as far as I could throw them. Should I include our new Dutch friends in this ? Up to now I've no reason to. |
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Post by The Sheriff Strikes Back on Mar 22, 2023 18:51:42 GMT 1
I guess because the fact he needs to stay around, like in the Phil deal, either means: 1) The Dutch can't afford to buy the club outright immediately - brilliant. 2) He wants to cling on to a small amount of power and continue having a say - not good either. There is simply no positive scenario whereby Dean is still involved medium-term - this is why it potentially stinks if it does transpire that he isn't just here for the 6 month transition phase. If it was a clean, 100% immediate sale I think the majority would be less concerned. Personally I'd much rather the Americans anyway, but the AZ lot buying us outright and starting clean certainly wouldn't alarm me either. a 3rd option could be that he wishes to ensure the club isnt abused, a small ownership has no power but must be kept informed. It makes him the perfect whistle blower There's no way you typed that with a straight face. |
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Post by terriers321 on Mar 22, 2023 18:52:10 GMT 1
The way some hang onto his every word.. or even his every like.. if I was him Id have some right fun on here winding them up! To be honest I think he does a bit anyway. beat me to it! Pull the other one. You just dont like the fact that the one person that is ITK on this board, proves your narrative to be bullshit. |
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Post by Mastercracker on Mar 22, 2023 18:56:18 GMT 1
Maynard an unknown but informed poster commenting on postings of those on here can not be the basis of a judgement. A bit similar to "liking" the paint work on Boris's 360Million bus, without considering the validity of the message. Maynard may have his own agenda, most of us do. Am I the only person in the world with Google? I mean I know who it is anyway but why nobody else has bothered to find out says a lot about the mentality of some on here. I thought ‘they’ were lovely in my dealings with ‘them’, but they definitely have an agenda in the situation, not entirely sure why. Do you think it's ? |
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Post by Dan on Mar 22, 2023 19:04:38 GMT 1
Maynard an unknown but informed poster commenting on postings of those on here can not be the basis of a judgement. A bit similar to "liking" the paint work on Boris's 360Million bus, without considering the validity of the message. Maynard may have his own agenda, most of us do. Am I the only person in the world with Google? I mean I know who it is anyway but why nobody else has bothered to find out says a lot about the mentality of some on here. I thought ‘they’ were lovely in my dealings with ‘them’, but they definitely have an agenda in the situation, not entirely sure why. Got to love the condescending manner of this post only to then come out with something completely wrong |
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Post by richhtfc on Mar 22, 2023 19:05:56 GMT 1
Am I the only person in the world with Google? I mean I know who it is anyway but why nobody else has bothered to find out says a lot about the mentality of some on here. I thought ‘they’ were lovely in my dealings with ‘them’, but they definitely have an agenda in the situation, not entirely sure why. Got to love the condescending manner of this post only to then come out with something completely wrong Fair enough if I’m wrong I’m wrong, not impressed how one person is dictating the agenda on here regardless. |
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Post by dbterrier32 on Mar 22, 2023 19:16:40 GMT 1
What’s frustrating about all of this is the ‘Huddersfield Town’ way we always go about things.
Like the complete lack of communication from the club. I understand they don’t need to disclose figures/negotiations etc.
Nothing communicated about the transfer embargo. They could released a statement like Burnley did. If there is nothing to worry about and is just simply because the accounts are delayed because of the take over process or admins of Pure Legal not releasing them, just say that. Put the fans minds at rest and end speculation.
Look at Man Utd, it is common knowledge and reported all over Sky News that the Qataris and Jim Radcliffe are going to bid for the club. So why can’t something be said to us fans.
When the Man Utd preferred bidder gets decided/announced it will go quiet until the process is complete. Nothing will be reported on the negotiation side. Just like that, why can’t we get some information to say there is an American group and a Dutch group. Then nothing until the process is complete. Again it would stop the speculation
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Post by Porrohman on Mar 22, 2023 19:21:58 GMT 1
Tommy Cooper, centre half, but is he classed as a comedian or a magician, or general entertainer? Either way him and Russ Abbot are my centre backs. Tommy certainly kept it tight as a gnat's chuff.... on the spending front that is......... The story of him being taken somewhere by chauffeur driven car and when he got out slipping something into the chauffeurs breast pocket, with the words "have a drunk on me". The bloke waited til he was back in the car, went into his pocket wondering how much he'd been given and pulled out a teabag 🤣 |
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Post by midge on Mar 22, 2023 19:24:52 GMT 1
What’s frustrating about all of this is the ‘Huddersfield Town’ way we always go about things. Like the complete lack of communication from the club. I understand they don’t need to disclose figures/negotiations etc. Nothing communicated about the transfer embargo. They could released a statement like Burnley did. If there is nothing to worry about and is just simply because the accounts are delayed because of the take over process or admins of Pure Legal not releasing them, just say that. Put the fans minds at rest and end speculation. Look at Man Utd, it is common knowledge and reported all over Sky News that the Qataris and Jim Radcliffe are going to bid for the club. So why can’t something be said to us fans. When the Man Utd preferred bidder gets decided/announced it will go quiet until the process is complete. Nothing will be reported on the negotiation side. Just like that, why can’t we get some information to say there is an American group and a Dutch group. Then nothing until the process is complete. Again it would stop the speculation Do you not think that journalists are probing the Man U deal and the interested parties are using the media? Man U are one of the biggest clubs in th e world and are being sold for billions. It's newsworthy and that's why stuff is coming out. unfortunately, other than Town fans no one gives a shite about our little old sale!! |
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Post by Porrohman on Mar 22, 2023 19:27:56 GMT 1
Anyone have an idea when an update or announcement is likely to be made? Walking down the street today a neighbours car sat under a car told me an update on the situation was imminent(and theres about as much fact in that as whats been posted on here lately). Your neighbour has a very small car 🤔 |
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Post by Sio on Mar 22, 2023 19:31:24 GMT 1
Am I the only person in the world with Google? I mean I know who it is anyway but why nobody else has bothered to find out says a lot about the mentality of some on here. I thought ‘they’ were lovely in my dealings with ‘them’, but they definitely have an agenda in the situation, not entirely sure why. Do you think it's ? 😂😂😂 he absolutely does |
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Post by ldr on Mar 22, 2023 19:35:28 GMT 1
Right, I’m just settling down for a pint or ten with htafc35 and Maynard?
What does anyone want to know?
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Post by richhtfc on Mar 22, 2023 19:37:06 GMT 1
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Post by Orinoco on Mar 22, 2023 19:40:58 GMT 1
Right, I’m just settling down for a pint or ten with htafc35 and Maynard? What does anyone want to know? Saturdays lottery numbers please!! |
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Post by SurreyTerrier on Mar 22, 2023 19:44:31 GMT 1
Pretty much all I've got to go by! Maynards reaction to the spin htafc is putting on things says all you need to know I think. Maynard watch your back, Hoyle will be after you Maynard an unknown but informed poster commenting on postings of those on here can not be the basis of a judgement. A bit similar to "liking" the paint work on Boris's 360Million bus, without considering the validity of the message. Maynard may have his own agenda, most of us do. Personally I dont know Maynards agenda because like most on here I dont know them. Sounds like you have an agenda about paint, as for the message the recent corruption investigation and failure to fully support Ukraine as shown the validity of the rotten edifice . |
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Post by dbterrier32 on Mar 22, 2023 19:46:33 GMT 1
What’s frustrating about all of this is the ‘Huddersfield Town’ way we always go about things. Like the complete lack of communication from the club. I understand they don’t need to disclose figures/negotiations etc. Nothing communicated about the transfer embargo. They could released a statement like Burnley did. If there is nothing to worry about and is just simply because the accounts are delayed because of the take over process or admins of Pure Legal not releasing them, just say that. Put the fans minds at rest and end speculation. Look at Man Utd, it is common knowledge and reported all over Sky News that the Qataris and Jim Radcliffe are going to bid for the club. So why can’t something be said to us fans. When the Man Utd preferred bidder gets decided/announced it will go quiet until the process is complete. Nothing will be reported on the negotiation side. Just like that, why can’t we get some information to say there is an American group and a Dutch group. Then nothing until the process is complete. Again it would stop the speculation Do you not think that journalists are probing the Man U deal and the interested parties are using the media? Man U are one of the biggest clubs in th e world and are being sold for billions. It's newsworthy and that's why stuff is coming out. unfortunately, other than Town fans no one gives a shite about our little old sale!! The point I’m making is it wouldn’t hurt for some clarity and communication from the club. It won’t have a detrimental impact to the take over |
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Post by westislandterrier on Mar 22, 2023 19:48:07 GMT 1
Apart from a few light hearted puns, I’ve not expanded any energy on the takeover situation, predominantly because I’m far away from any inside information, but I have read every post with interest of course but I’m unable to influence who it will eventually be or won’t... However I’ve been on to the club today regarding tickets, matchday Sky conformation dates, the club shop, and finally the main club switchboard - and NOBODY is answering phones in any division - (the shop did yesterday) - Are they being called to a meeting about administration... or a meeting about the new owners... or maybe it’s just the dinner hour and all have nipped up to The Yorkshire Rose for their lunch break ! Maybe they just recognise your number ? 🤔🤣 They certainly recognise ma bank card and the £600 that I buy outta the shop every year ! 😉 But they are a truly FANTASTIC team in The HTAFC superstore, pleasent, helpful - and I simply couldn’t do without them... The boardroom ain’t exactly covering themselves in glory - the players certainly aren’t either - but take a bow The HTAFC retail team... Yous are FANTASTIC !!! 👍👍👍 |
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Post by CurlyWurly on Mar 22, 2023 19:54:20 GMT 1
Maybe they just recognise your number ? 🤔🤣 They certainly recognise ma bank card and the £600 that I buy outta the shop every year ! 😉 But they are a truly FANTASTIC team in The HTAFC superstore, pleasent, helpful - and I simply couldn’t do without them... The boardroom ain’t exactly covering themselves in glory - the players certainly aren’t either - but take a bow The HTAFC retail team... Yous are FANTASTIC !!! 👍👍👍 Ticket office isn't open on Wednesdays, perhaps other departments are the same? |
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Post by prepare on Mar 22, 2023 20:00:21 GMT 1
Why would Dean want to stick around, the obvious reason was to see that he got as much money back as he could! The new owners would set the budget with Dean sitting at the table. If this is the case the deal dose not appear to be the best deal for the club. You dont have to stick around to get the money back you agree in a deal... its in the deal. You both sign it and leave them your bank details. If hes sticking around, then its probably because the new owners see a benefit in that and they persuaded him to agree to it,, reluctantly Id imagine. You cant possibly say what 'appears to be the best deal for the club' because like everyone else you have absolutely no idea what any of the deals are! correct |
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