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Post by Henry Mcgee on Mar 21, 2023 21:09:25 GMT 1
As someone who knows about as much as the next man on this situation, can I say I don't know anything about the deal. But I'm furious - so fucking furious my heads about to explode. I'm not sure what I'm furious about yet, because I don't know what the deal is - but when I find out then I'll be able to let everyone know what I'm fucking furious about.
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Post by sheps on Mar 21, 2023 21:09:50 GMT 1
genuine question here, i've not been following everything as close as some others on here so it may get shot down,
But surely a club with Dean still involved to some extent, but with financial backing from an external party is better than some sort of dodgy pre pack agreement where the club ends up in and out of administration and then back in Deans hands?
I understand a lot of the bad feeling towards Dean, but if he's still involved, even if thats to protect his own money then surely he will have more passion about it staying afloat and in the championship than not?
Like i say, I'm not as close to this as a lot of other people are on the thread, but i have heard a couple of bits and been trying to keep up to date with everything.
Ultimately I just hope the truth comes out and the club is solid over the coming years. I'd do anything for a boring mid table season.
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Post by exberlinerterrier on Mar 21, 2023 21:10:58 GMT 1
I’m clinging onto the hope the Americans could have taken over and got bored if they didn’t get instant results and that the Dutch guy, although it may be more boring has a longer term plan. Massive straws being clutched. Be interesting to hear what he has to say. I thought the American consortium was headed by the guys who used to own the San Diego Padres. People who definitely know how to run a sports club and understand that it often requires a bit of patience.
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Post by keithAM11532 on Mar 21, 2023 21:11:10 GMT 1
As someone who knows about as much as the next man on this situation, can I say I don't know anything about the deal. But I'm furious - so fucking furious my heads about to explode. I'm not sure what I'm furious about yet, because I don't know what the deal is - but when I find out then I'll be able to let everyone know what I'm fucking furious about.
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Post by pauldaltonsboots on Mar 21, 2023 21:14:11 GMT 1
My head is in a spin just reading all the snippets of insight and trying to make head nor tail of it.
For now, as much as ignorance is certainly not bliss in this case, I’ve accepted I am only privy to half truths at the most, and just hope that the next developments are positive for us to move forward as a club. And that once this happens and the dust settles, as fans, we are treated with respect and given all the facts.
Over the years there have been players, managers and owners that I have liked and those I have disliked. It’s painful right now, but ultimately my allegiance and love is for Huddersfield Town football club. I can’t change that bond. The club is what we love and is bigger than any one person.
I find it disheartening that so many are considering turning their back on the club they love (for info I am not having a go, as I know many have come to the end of their patience, and with the cost of living etc, we are having to make tough decisions for the good of our families). It is just so sad that it has come to this.
Personally whatever happens at the club, good or bad, the club is not to blame, people are, and therefore my love and commitment for Hudds will never change, and my boy and I will keep going and cheering the team on.
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Post by ColchTerrier on Mar 21, 2023 21:15:08 GMT 1
I’m clinging onto the hope the Americans could have taken over and got bored if they didn’t get instant results and that the Dutch guy, although it may be more boring has a longer term plan. Massive straws being clutched. Be interesting to hear what he has to say. I thought the American consortium was headed by the guys who used to own the San Diego Padres. People who definitely know how to run a sports club and understand that it often requires a bit of patience. No idea. You could be right, Maynard liked it which means you are. Which means…. Where’s the noose
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Post by Teddington Ted on Mar 21, 2023 21:15:55 GMT 1
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Mar 21, 2023 21:16:02 GMT 1
I think that may be harsh on the Dutch. I'm sure they'll have some fresh ideas and a new head coach and style of play/culture. It's the financial model that I have serious concerns over and future financial 'commitments'. Who knows, these concerns may be allayed if/when we get to hear more detail of their plans. agree let’s see the deal and then we can judge but if course some who are less informed have made there minds up !! Nothing new there It's neither here nor their
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Post by boooothy on Mar 21, 2023 21:21:51 GMT 1
genuine question here, i've not been following everything as close as some others on here so it may get shot down, But surely a club with Dean still involved to some extent, but with financial backing from an external party is better than some sort of dodgy pre pack agreement where the club ends up in and out of administration and then back in Deans hands? I understand a lot of the bad feeling towards Dean, but if he's still involved, even if thats to protect his own money then surely he will have more passion about it staying afloat and in the championship than not? Like i say, I'm not as close to this as a lot of other people are on the thread, but i have heard a couple of bits and been trying to keep up to date with everything. Ultimately I just hope the truth comes out and the club is solid over the coming years. I'd do anything for a boring mid table season. My thoughts too, just worded better
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Post by bells ringing :) on Mar 21, 2023 21:22:20 GMT 1
agree let’s see the deal and then we can judge but if course some who are less informed have made there minds up !! Nothing new there It's neither here nor their I think the concern, well my concern is. Will these guys put the money in required to enable us to compete whatever league we are in. IE what is there aims for the club etc, have they got the fininical backing to be able to move the club on / further than Hoyle did ...
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Post by King Curtis on Mar 21, 2023 21:27:24 GMT 1
So to summarise...
DH is retaining his 25%
PH's 75% is being sold to the Dutch owners of AZ?
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Post by leroy212 on Mar 21, 2023 21:34:36 GMT 1
So to summarise... DH is retaining his 25% PH's 75% is being sold to the Dutch owners of AZ? Probably right
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Post by Up the Duff. on Mar 21, 2023 21:35:35 GMT 1
Hoyle has made the club a rotten smouldering cesspit. I certainly won’t be getting a season ticket if he’s sticking around in any capacity. Whatever happens then you will not be getting a season ticket, DH will be around minimum I would say of 6months whatever the final outcome as DH is currently the only person approved to run the club and changing this to someone new is not a quick process. And by the way DH has actually saved the club again...........admittedly from a mistake he was part of selling to PH. If he had sold to PH completely and fully cut ties, the chances are you also would not be getting a season ticket next season in fact you probably would not have one this season............. it will all come out in time and I am quite sure your opinion will change. The club should be in an extremly healthy position should everything go to plan now if we have the investment announcement in the next few days / weeks then this could give a massive lift to everyone and give us a great chance of survial in the championship. Will we get one side of the story or will PH be allowed to give his ? More NDAs ?
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Post by alexdire on Mar 21, 2023 21:39:37 GMT 1
So in a nut shell Maynardblue, are we in an identical situation as we were with PH, but with the Dutch playing the PH roll? I think that may be harsh on the Dutch. I'm sure they'll have some fresh ideas and a new head coach and style of play/culture. It's the financial model that I have serious concerns over and future financial 'commitments'. Who knows, these concerns may be allayed if/when we get to hear more detail of their plans. So the Dutch have guaranteed the staged payments from the club to Hoyle. To repay him the money HE spent?
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Post by Stiggy on Mar 21, 2023 21:40:51 GMT 1
So to summarise... DH is retaining his 25% PH's 75% is being sold to the Dutch owners of AZ? Reading through 9 pages of drivel and riddled clues that sounds about right.
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Post by richhtfc on Mar 21, 2023 21:45:56 GMT 1
It's neither here nor their I think the concern, well my concern is. Will these guys put the money in required to enable us to compete whatever league we are in. IE what is there aims for the club etc, have they got the fininical backing to be able to move the club on / further than Hoyle did ... Theres always a possibility they are blood sucking vampires only investing money to enable us to fail. What on earth are you going on about?
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Post by boooothy on Mar 21, 2023 21:46:01 GMT 1
Maybe this thread is one big wind up? Let everyone rant we’ve made the wrong choice then announce the Americans later in the week leaving DATM with egg in its face having to congratulate Hoyle.
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Post by space hardware on Mar 21, 2023 21:49:54 GMT 1
Maybe this thread is one big wind up? Let everyone rant we’ve made the wrong choice then announce the Americans later in the week leaving DATM with egg in its face having to congratulate Hoyle. Hopefully 😂
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Post by Up the Duff. on Mar 21, 2023 21:50:06 GMT 1
He's having to put money in because of his own fucking mistakes. What planet are you living on? He doesnt / didnt have to put a penny in, it would have been cheaper not to when PH couldnt afford to pay. That would have meant admin.. he was protecting his loans
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Post by bells ringing :) on Mar 21, 2023 21:51:18 GMT 1
I think the concern, well my concern is. Will these guys put the money in required to enable us to compete whatever league we are in. IE what is there aims for the club etc, have they got the fininical backing to be able to move the club on / further than Hoyle did ... Theres always a possibility they are blood sucking vampires only investing money to enable us to fail. What on earth are you going on about? I didn't say that did i ? i mean have they got the cash firstly to try and help us thrive and move on ? what is their long term plan for us , are they aiming to stick around for the long term , to try and move us as far as possible. What are their intentions so to speak .
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Post by St Dogs Terrier on Mar 21, 2023 21:52:12 GMT 1
As has been hinted at above, my questions would be who will be making the decisions, who will sign the cheques and what, if any, impingements are there for any new investors? In other words can we move forward, whatever division we are in next season? Other than that I couldn't a fying fluck who owns what percentage of the club.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Mar 21, 2023 21:53:21 GMT 1
The Eredivese is a terrible standard of football barring 3 clubs. I find the idea that we’d be a so called ‘feeder club’ to a team outside of those 3 clubs incredibly hard to believe. I know you’re only joking but the likes of Camara or Diarra will surely have their goals set a little bit higher than AZ. Especially at this stage of their careers. Are you the DATM equivalent of that alter ego character a la Tommy Cooper? 😂😂 (yes, I did work out which post you were responding to, obviously the pace of this thread caught you out 😉)
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Post by richhtfc on Mar 21, 2023 21:55:12 GMT 1
Theres always a possibility they are blood sucking vampires only investing money to enable us to fail. What on earth are you going on about? I didn't say that did i ? i mean have they got the cash firstly to try and help us thrive and move on ? what is their long term plan for us , are they aiming to stick around for the long term , to try and move us as far as possible. What are their intentions so to speak . Yeah we don’t know is the answer but could things possibly turn out well? It feels like every post on here is negative.
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Post by richhtfc on Mar 21, 2023 21:57:58 GMT 1
I think that may be harsh on the Dutch. I'm sure they'll have some fresh ideas and a new head coach and style of play/culture. It's the financial model that I have serious concerns over and future financial 'commitments'. Who knows, these concerns may be allayed if/when we get to hear more detail of their plans. So the Dutch have guaranteed the staged payments from the club to Hoyle. To repay him the money HE spent? How dare Dean Hoyle sell the club he owns for the value of the money he put in. I’d much prefer he took his loans back and then said the club is worth X amount more on top. Honestly this board is ridiculous, thick as mince the vast majority.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Mar 21, 2023 22:01:02 GMT 1
This is my take on the last few days on here…
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Post by townian on Mar 21, 2023 22:02:56 GMT 1
So the Dutch have guaranteed the staged payments from the club to Hoyle. To repay him the money HE spent? How dare Dean Hoyle sell the club he owns for the value of the money he put in. I’d much prefer he took his loans back and then said the club is worth X amount more on top. Honestly this board is ridiculous, thick as mince the vast majority. There’s more conspiracy theories on here than at a Trump rally
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Post by townrwe on Mar 21, 2023 22:03:32 GMT 1
I just want someone rich to say you buy the tickets we will buy the players and then actually fucking do it.
A Dutch investment needs to be announced with a fan fair and a strategy or selling season tickets will be like selling hot soup in the desert.
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Post by alexdire on Mar 21, 2023 22:05:22 GMT 1
So the Dutch have guaranteed the staged payments from the club to Hoyle. To repay him the money HE spent? How dare Dean Hoyle sell the club he owns for the value of the money he put in. I’d much prefer he took his loans back and then said the club is worth X amount more on top. Honestly this board is ridiculous, thick as mince the vast majority. The business isn't worth the money he invested in it.
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Post by richhtfc on Mar 21, 2023 22:05:29 GMT 1
How dare Dean Hoyle sell the club he owns for the value of the money he put in. I’d much prefer he took his loans back and then said the club is worth X amount more on top. Honestly this board is ridiculous, thick as mince the vast majority. There’s more conspiracy theories on here than at a Trump rally Far as I know the main person everyone holds as their prime source on here lost their job when PH came in but is incredibly loyle to him, it’s all very confusing.
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Post by space hardware on Mar 21, 2023 22:07:18 GMT 1
So the Dutch have guaranteed the staged payments from the club to Hoyle. To repay him the money HE spent? How dare Dean Hoyle sell the club he owns for the value of the money he put in. I’d much prefer he took his loans back and then said the club is worth X amount more on top. Honestly this board is ridiculous, thick as mince the vast majority. Take his so called loans back from where, exactly?
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