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Post by Detective Boyle on Mar 21, 2023 22:08:08 GMT 1
I just want someone rich to say you buy the tickets we will buy the players and then actually fucking do it. A Dutch investment needs to be announced with a fan fair and a strategy or selling season tickets will be like selling hot soup in the desert. We might get this Dutch striker after all. |
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Post by richhtfc on Mar 21, 2023 22:09:32 GMT 1
How dare Dean Hoyle sell the club he owns for the value of the money he put in. I’d much prefer he took his loans back and then said the club is worth X amount more on top. Honestly this board is ridiculous, thick as mince the vast majority. Take his so called loans back from where, exactly? His nominal value for the club matches what he is owed. |
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Post by space hardware on Mar 21, 2023 22:11:00 GMT 1
Take his so called loans back from where, exactly? His nominal value for the club matches what he is owed. What, £35m? Who is going to pay that? For what is, essentially, nothing? |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Mar 21, 2023 22:11:04 GMT 1
So the Dutch have guaranteed the staged payments from the club to Hoyle. To repay him the money HE spent? How dare Dean Hoyle sell the club he owns for the value of the money he put in. I’d much prefer he took his loans back and then said the club is worth X amount more on top. Honestly this board is ridiculous, thick as mince the vast majority. I'd have a bit more respect for him if he admitted that this is the reason why he has gone with the Dutch offer. He may do but I fully expect he will state it is was the best deal for the club |
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Post by waggers on Mar 21, 2023 22:11:30 GMT 1
How dare Dean Hoyle sell the club he owns for the value of the money he put in. I’d much prefer he took his loans back and then said the club is worth X amount more on top. Honestly this board is ridiculous, thick as mince the vast majority. Take his so called loans back from where, exactly? They became 'loans', I don't believe the vast majority were spent with the idea of getting them back. That is what caused this mess. |
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Post by waggers on Mar 21, 2023 22:14:16 GMT 1
How dare Dean Hoyle sell the club he owns for the value of the money he put in. I’d much prefer he took his loans back and then said the club is worth X amount more on top. Honestly this board is ridiculous, thick as mince the vast majority. I'd have a bit more respect for him if he admitted that this is the reason why he has gone with the Dutch offer. He may do but I fully expect he will state it is was the best deal for the club Hoyle will pull out the standard 'best for the club' routine and a chunk on here will buy it. I don't necessarily think the Dutch are a bad option it could turn out well, but I truly believe Hoyles only point on his checklist was 1. Will you give me all my money back?. The Dutch said yes the Yanks likely told him to swivel. |
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Post by ColchTerrier on Mar 21, 2023 22:15:25 GMT 1
Is it 100% done or is there still a say from the Americans?
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Post by Porrohman on Mar 21, 2023 22:16:14 GMT 1
I’m clinging onto the hope the Americans could have taken over and got bored if they didn’t get instant results and that the Dutch guy, although it may be more boring has a longer term plan. Massive straws being clutched. Be interesting to hear what he has to say. I thought the American consortium was headed by the guys who used to own the San Diego Padres. People who definitely know how to run a sports club and understand that it often requires a bit of patience. What sport do they play ? |
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Post by yorkshiretripod on Mar 21, 2023 22:16:52 GMT 1
Is it 100% done or is there still a say from the Americans? They usually turn up at the last minute, don't they? Then take all the plaudits. |
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Post by rothwellterrier on Mar 21, 2023 22:17:09 GMT 1
I thought the American consortium was headed by the guys who used to own the San Diego Padres. People who definitely know how to run a sports club and understand that it often requires a bit of patience. What sport do they play ? Same as the Liverpool, Chelsea owners. |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Mar 21, 2023 22:17:19 GMT 1
I thought the American consortium was headed by the guys who used to own the San Diego Padres. People who definitely know how to run a sports club and understand that it often requires a bit of patience. What sport do they play ? Rounders |
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Post by sabailand on Mar 21, 2023 22:17:46 GMT 1
This is my take on the last few days on here… 😵💫😵💫😵💫🤪🤪🤪😠😠😠☹️☹️🥸🥸🫣🫣🫣🤫🤫🤫🫥🫥🙄🙄🙄😬😬😬😧😧😧🫤🫤🤔🤔🤔🤗🤕🤕🤕😵💫😵💫😵💫🥴🤐🤐🤑🤑🤑🤠🤠🥷🏼🥷🏼🚲🚲🚲💰💰🪤🇳🇱🇳🇱🏴☠️🏁🏁🇺🇸🇺🇸🏴☠️🇳🇱🇳🇱🇺🇸🇺🇸🧐🧐🧐😎😎🤬🤬🤬😳👍👎🧀🧀🧀🍔🍔🍔 Not the foggiest… Thats as much concise and fact laden as most of this thread. |
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Post by 4 pts on Mar 21, 2023 22:17:47 GMT 1
So the Dutch have guaranteed the staged payments from the club to Hoyle. To repay him the money HE spent?
I’d much prefer he took his loans back and then said the club is worth X amount more on top. Honestly this board is ridiculous, thick as mince the vast majority. Probably because it wasn't worth the asking price the first time he sold it and it is now worth a hell of a lot less |
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Post by richhtfc on Mar 21, 2023 22:19:32 GMT 1
How dare Dean Hoyle sell the club he owns for the value of the money he put in. I’d much prefer he took his loans back and then said the club is worth X amount more on top. Honestly this board is ridiculous, thick as mince the vast majority. I'd have a bit more respect for him if he admitted that this is the reason why he has gone with the Dutch offer. He may do but I fully expect he will state it is was the best deal for the club To be honest I don’t see what the difference is, as long as he’s not asking an extortionate price for the club who cares? Is HTFC worth £40m ( a guess) ? You’d hope so if you believe in its potential and history. Is the current owner owed a ridiculous amount becaue he’s run the club into the ground? No it’s about £40m (again guessing). So let him take that as value and move on. |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Mar 21, 2023 22:19:55 GMT 1
How dare Dean Hoyle sell the club he owns for the value of the money he put in.
I’d much prefer he took his loans back and then said the club is worth X amount more on top. Honestly this board is ridiculous, thick as mince the vast majority. Probably because it wasn't worth the asking price the first time he sold it and it is now worth a hell of a lot less A bit like buying a BMW for 30k, spending 10k modifying it and then expecting 40k for it 10 years later. |
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Post by richhtfc on Mar 21, 2023 22:22:15 GMT 1
Probably because it wasn't worth the asking price the first time he sold it and it is now worth a hell of a lot less A bit like buying a BMW for 30k, spending 10k modifying it and then expecting 40k for it 10 years later. So now we think he’s overpricing the club? 😂 |
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Post by space hardware on Mar 21, 2023 22:23:06 GMT 1
I'd have a bit more respect for him if he admitted that this is the reason why he has gone with the Dutch offer. He may do but I fully expect he will state it is was the best deal for the club To be honest I don’t see what the difference is, as long as he’s not asking an extortionate price for the club who cares? Is HTFC worth £40m ( a guess) ? You’d hope so if you believe in its potential and history. Is the current owner owed a ridiculous amount becaue he’s run the club into the ground? No it’s about £40m (again guessing). So let him take that as value and move on. £40m? For what? Potential and history? Are you on glue? |
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Post by 4 pts on Mar 21, 2023 22:24:34 GMT 1
Probably because it wasn't worth the asking price the first time he sold it and it is now worth a hell of a lot less A bit like buying a BMW for 30k, spending 10k modifying it and then expecting 40k for it 10 years later. Exactly |
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Post by Up the Duff. on Mar 21, 2023 22:25:01 GMT 1
It’s just good to know Deans health must have improved if he’s not taking the total break as he’d said. Praise the Lord 🙏 Will Hoyle still have a say in any decisions that matter or will the investment be enough to give the Dutch control, leaving Hoyle as a figurehead whilst he has his loans repaid ? Cheers Maynard. |
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Post by townian on Mar 21, 2023 22:25:40 GMT 1
Take his so called loans back from where, exactly? They became 'loans', I don't believe the vast majority were spent with the idea of getting them back. That is what caused this mess. They’ve been shown as loans in the audited statutory accounts every year since his first year on the board. To suggest they are anything else is nonsense. |
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Post by Maynardblue on Mar 21, 2023 22:26:44 GMT 1
Will Hoyle still have a say in any decisions that matter or will the investment be enough to give the Dutch control, leaving Hoyle as a figurehead whilst he has his loans repaid ? Cheers Maynard. That remains to be seen but I'm pretty sure the Dutch will be running the show |
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Mar 21, 2023 22:27:41 GMT 1
I'd have a bit more respect for him if he admitted that this is the reason why he has gone with the Dutch offer. He may do but I fully expect he will state it is was the best deal for the club To be honest I don’t see what the difference is, as long as he’s not asking an extortionate price for the club who cares? Is HTFC worth £40m ( a guess) ? You’d hope so if you believe in its potential and history. Is the current owner owed a ridiculous amount becaue he’s run the club into the ground? No it’s about £40m (again guessing). So let him take that as value and move on. Probably not, but it might be worth a whole lot more than the £5m he sold it to Phil for, if full operational control of the stadium & Canalside are part of the deal. The repayment of loans were not part of the asking price last time. |
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Post by richhtfc on Mar 21, 2023 22:27:43 GMT 1
To be honest I don’t see what the difference is, as long as he’s not asking an extortionate price for the club who cares? Is HTFC worth £40m ( a guess) ? You’d hope so if you believe in its potential and history. Is the current owner owed a ridiculous amount becaue he’s run the club into the ground? No it’s about £40m (again guessing). So let him take that as value and move on. £40m? For what? Potential and history? Are you on glue? What’s your valuation for us? |
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Post by 4 pts on Mar 21, 2023 22:28:02 GMT 1
A bit like buying a BMW for 30k, spending 10k modifying it and then expecting 40k for it 10 years later. So now we think he’s overpricing the club? 😂 Its one thing trying to get back the money you put in, its a completely different story trying to convince someone that what you are selling is worth that money |
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Post by Porrohman on Mar 21, 2023 22:30:40 GMT 1
What sport do they play ? Same as the Liverpool, Chelsea owners. Fucked if I know, I've no interest in anything American |
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Post by Porrohman on Mar 21, 2023 22:31:05 GMT 1
What sport do they play ? Rounders Cheers |
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Post by Wingman on Mar 21, 2023 22:31:35 GMT 1
So now we think he’s overpricing the club? 😂 Its one thing trying to get back the money you put in, its a completely different story trying to convince someone that what you are selling is worth that money As goes the saying, something is only worth what someone is willing to pay. DH is a businessman, he will have mentioned ‘potential’ a number of times in talks I would imagine. |
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Post by suttystolemymarsbar on Mar 21, 2023 22:33:00 GMT 1
Assume you weren’t one of those at the Town Hall Saturday then. Debate for another day but joking about a bad thing in no way changes how bad that thing is. Back to Town. I hope this takeover works better than… insert your own punchline I didn't mind Slapps attempt at humour but he's no Jimmy Carr. You make that sound like its a bad thing. |
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Post by space hardware on Mar 21, 2023 22:33:00 GMT 1
£40m? For what? Potential and history? Are you on glue? What’s your valuation for us? About £2.50 |
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Post by Up the Duff. on Mar 21, 2023 22:34:14 GMT 1
It’s just good to know Deans health must have improved if he’s not taking the total break as he’d said. Just like it did before the playoff final, incredible isn’t it. Pancreatitus is manageable once known about. They even have fixes for it using botox. Too much has been made of the ongoing health issue.. life threatening initially but shouldn't be long term. Hard to argue when the health card gets pulled. |
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