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Post by waggers on Apr 24, 2023 15:03:43 GMT 1
Just cant see it being anything to do with Warnock. Why would he? Theres nothing to gain for him or our team by doing it at all. Possibly the opposite in fact if it encourages Sheff Utd to NOT rest players when they play us. It'll be Baldwin and its maybe not a coincidence its Burnley hes trying to have a dig at. I'd say its exactly the type of thing Warnock would kick off about, he's a winner and if he thinks having a whinge about it might give us an extra 1% in the battle for survival he'll take it. Could be mind games, publicising the fact Burnley are on the beach, letting teams beat them. Who knows but we've played them twice now, Cardiff I think still have them to play. He was keen to bring up his beef with Wilder prior to the Watford game which I thought may have been a mistake, that may also have been done to try and unsettle, even a tiny amount....fine lines and all that. I personally don't give a fck what other clubs or their fans think about Town complaining (if they did). Priority number one is staying in this division, full stop. All this talk of it being 'embarrassing' is a bit 'embarrassing' IMO. "Oh we shouldn't complain because we did something a little bit like it 6 years ago and people might think we're silly", give over!! Could very well be Warnock chipping in with some mind games and he's an experienced man, I'll back him. Who gives a fuck what other clubs think of us it isn't a popularity contest.
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Post by Drew Peacock on Apr 24, 2023 15:27:23 GMT 1
Personally couldn't care less who Burnley choose from their playing squads, they're all paid by the club to play football so they can play whoever they want.
The problem is though that we were fined for it. Maybe we should be asking for that money back? 🤷♂️
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Post by rockwall on Apr 24, 2023 15:39:10 GMT 1
Personally couldn't care less who Burnley choose from their playing squads, they're all paid by the club to play football so they can play whoever they want. The problem is though that we were fined for it. Maybe we should be asking for that money back? 🤷♂️ But what would they be fined for? They haven't broken any rules...
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Post by turbo2 on Apr 24, 2023 15:41:35 GMT 1
Personally couldn't care less who Burnley choose from their playing squads, they're all paid by the club to play football so they can play whoever they want. The problem is though that we were fined for it. Maybe we should be asking for that money back? 🤷♂️ But what would they be fined for? They haven't broken any rules... Because they’ve offended someone. It’s the modern way
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Post by htafcokay on Apr 24, 2023 15:47:55 GMT 1
Personally couldn't care less who Burnley choose from their playing squads, they're all paid by the club to play football so they can play whoever they want. The problem is though that we were fined for it. Maybe we should be asking for that money back? 🤷♂️ We weren't fined for it.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Apr 24, 2023 15:52:03 GMT 1
Blah blah blah.
Blah blah blah blah, blah blah.
Blah, blah blah blah blah blah…
I think that’s this topic summed up for now, onto some actual football debate. Back to the week ahead, where we’ll have a much clearer picture of the ask come 12 moon on Sunday.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Apr 24, 2023 16:12:41 GMT 1
Blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah, blah blah. Blah, blah blah blah blah blah… I think that’s this topic summed up for now, onto some actual football debate. Back to the week ahead, where we’ll have a much clearer picture of the ask come 12 moon on Sunday. None of the bottom 4 win another game??? We stay up by a one better GD Thats one for those with a weak constitution.🤢
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Post by ldotm on Apr 24, 2023 18:54:34 GMT 1
Blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah, blah blah. Blah, blah blah blah blah blah… I think that’s this topic summed up for now, onto some actual football debate. Back to the week ahead, where we’ll have a much clearer picture of the ask come 12 moon on Sunday. Agree with your first sentence and second. But disagree with your third, one too many blah’s for me
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Post by johntheterrier on Apr 24, 2023 19:04:36 GMT 1
But what would they be fined for? They haven't broken any rules... Because they’ve offended someone. It’s the modern way Yes, they certainly offended me. In fact, I can't remember the last time I was so offended by a football result. 😜
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Apr 24, 2023 19:20:00 GMT 1
Any of the Burley squad would most likely be town or other champiuonship clubs first choice players so not that weak ehh
Town did the same v Birmingham in our promotion year and that game V Barnsley is still talked about today
They just need to get on with it now as in our hands and forgod sakes dont f--k it up
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Post by ritchie on Apr 25, 2023 0:38:43 GMT 1
Can you imagine how much it would rattle NW if he thought this could affect our chances of 3 points vs Sheff U? Warnock will be making the football decisions (and given theres still games going on this is a football desicion imo), he even said recently baldwin doesnt have to now. No chance on earth (if true) he's not had a say in it. Last thing the club would want is NW getting the hump over board interfering I doubt they'd care. Warnocks going in 3 games time. He could be as pissed off as he wants about this, it isnt going to effect anything he does in terms of our team or how much he wants us to stay up. He knows hes on the cusp of a great achievement that will be a great boost to his reputation ( and the offers hell get next February to do the same for some other club ) . Not even sure it qualifies as a footballing decision. Its an FA policy and guidelines decision.. the sort of thing CEOs get very interested in. I missed this line in your last post "Possibly the opposite in fact if it encourages Sheff Utd to NOT rest players when they play us." I agree and I cant work out what NW's angle would be. I too see it as only likely causing sheff to not rest players*. It is Neil Warnock though.. either he has a plan us lot cant quite see..or he's just being a mischevious/or moany, old git. I don't, however, think Baldwin would do it without running it past warnock given we both agree it has (if only minor?) football connotations* Warnock even mentioned it annoyed him in his presser iirc, so i'd wager he maybe just cant help himself calling them out for it.
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Post by griffa on Apr 25, 2023 6:52:45 GMT 1
It was a mistake for Town not to appeal against, the deplorable decision, not to appeal against the shocking failure of Hawkeye goal line technology. EFL should have awarded Town a point, it was clear that the ball had crossed the line, common sense on the day by match officials, was totally lacking - UTT.
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Post by aksaiblue on Apr 25, 2023 7:25:17 GMT 1
I doubt they'd care. Warnocks going in 3 games time. He could be as pissed off as he wants about this, it isnt going to effect anything he does in terms of our team or how much he wants us to stay up. He knows hes on the cusp of a great achievement that will be a great boost to his reputation ( and the offers hell get next February to do the same for some other club ) . Not even sure it qualifies as a footballing decision. Its an FA policy and guidelines decision.. the sort of thing CEOs get very interested in. I missed this line in your last post "Possibly the opposite in fact if it encourages Sheff Utd to NOT rest players when they play us." I agree and I cant work out what NW's angle would be. I too see it as only likely causing sheff to not rest players*. It is Neil Warnock though.. either he has a plan us lot cant quite see..or he's just being a mischevious/or moany, old git. I don't, however, think Baldwin would do it without running it past warnock given we both agree it has (if only minor?) football connotations* Warnock even mentioned it annoyed him in his presser iirc, so i'd wager he maybe just cant help himself calling them out for it. Maybe, Colin is highlighting the point so that Sheff Utd get the message and do just that - rest some of their players, what's Goose is good for the Gander too.
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Post by irverino on Apr 25, 2023 7:40:44 GMT 1
It was a mistake for Town not to appeal against, the deplorable decision, not to appeal against the shocking failure of Hawkeye goal line technology. EFL should have awarded Town a point, it was clear that the ball had crossed the line, common sense on the day by match officials, was totally lacking - UTT. I bet one or two of the half a million permutations would see Town & Blackpool finish 21st & 22nd with identical goal difference.........Doesn't bear thinking about, till it happens.
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Post by westislandterrier on Apr 25, 2023 10:37:08 GMT 1
I missed this line in your last post "Possibly the opposite in fact if it encourages Sheff Utd to NOT rest players when they play us." I agree and I cant work out what NW's angle would be. I too see it as only likely causing sheff to not rest players*. It is Neil Warnock though.. either he has a plan us lot cant quite see..or he's just being a mischevious/or moany, old git. I don't, however, think Baldwin would do it without running it past warnock given we both agree it has (if only minor?) football connotations* Warnock even mentioned it annoyed him in his presser iirc, so i'd wager he maybe just cant help himself calling them out for it. Maybe, Colin is highlighting the point so that Sheff Utd get the message and do just that - rest some of their players, what's Goose is good for the Gander too. If there is such a thing as ‘on the beach’ - and there clearly is although no club or player would ever admit it... It’d be interesting if Sheffield United who will inevitably be up by their visit to Huddersfield Town really do care about their fellow Yorkshire kith n’ kin or will they play to their full strengths and aid a team from Barkshire or even Lancashire depending on Wigan Athletic and Blackpool’s weekend results !
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Post by detox on Apr 25, 2023 11:52:20 GMT 1
Maybe, Colin is highlighting the point so that Sheff Utd get the message and do just that - rest some of their players, what's Goose is good for the Gander too. If there is such a thing as ‘on the beach’ - and there clearly is although no club or player would ever admit it... It’d be interesting if Sheffield United who will inevitably be up by their visit to Huddersfield Town really do care about their fellow Yorkshire kith n’ kin or will they play to their full strengths and aid a team from Barkshire or even Lancashire depending on Wigan Athletic and Blackpool’s weekend results ! I'd expect them to be 'professional'...fringe players might try harder than established pro's...hoping for a PL contract...big money. In fact they'll all be looking for that once in a lifetime £2m a year 3 year contract..so I reckon there'll be motivation..if not intent. Town need to get at them..it could be do or die for us..and if Utd aren't happy with being ruffled up then tough titties. On our day, under NW, we can beat some of the best..Boro', Millwall..so why not 2nd placed Utd.. blimey QPR won at Burnley..so there's the motivation for us.. Mind you, it would be nice to get the 3 points from Cardiff first...that could change things a bit..
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Post by onesteviekindon on Apr 25, 2023 12:16:47 GMT 1
We should just focus on earning the points we need without moaning about things over which we have absolutely no control.
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Post by mosher on Apr 25, 2023 12:26:02 GMT 1
We should just focus on earning the points we need without moaning about things over which we have absolutely no control. No, no, no. We're BRITISH, in fact not just British, we're YORKSHIRE. We HAVE to moan about something
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Post by galpharm2400 on Apr 25, 2023 13:17:36 GMT 1
We should just focus on earning the points we need without moaning about things over which we have absolutely no control. No, no, no. We're BRITISH, in fact not just British, we're YORKSHIRE. We HAVE to moan about something Im waiting and building up to a right moan saturday afternoon and then again on sunday afternoon. Dont waste it, save it all up, dont peak too early.😡
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Post by Tinpot on Apr 25, 2023 13:28:39 GMT 1
It was a mistake for Town not to appeal against, the deplorable decision, not to appeal against the shocking failure of Hawkeye goal line technology. EFL should have awarded Town a point, it was clear that the ball had crossed the line, common sense on the day by match officials, was totally lacking - UTT. I bet one or two of the half a million permutations would see Town & Blackpool finish 21st & 22nd with identical goal difference.........Doesn't bear thinking about, till it happens. Rotherham & QPR pick up at least 1 point each from their remaining games. We lose to Cardiff 5-4 & Blades 5-4, but beat Reading 4-3. Blackpool win both of their fixtures 2-0. Equal on points, goal difference & goals scored. I think it goes to head-to-head results in that case. Relegated due to a faulty hawkeye in the home fixture & abysmal game management in the away fixture.
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Post by wigster on Apr 25, 2023 14:37:08 GMT 1
On TalkSport this morning Neil Warnock said that he did NOT make a complaint to the EFL about Burnley's weakened team.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Apr 25, 2023 15:09:21 GMT 1
On TalkSport this morning Neil Warnock said that he did NOT make a complaint to the EFL about Burnley's weakened team. Had we been secure in the play offs I think Colin would have given me a game?😉
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Post by Orinoco on Apr 25, 2023 16:40:22 GMT 1
Seems weird they are doing, could be they are putting their fringe players in the spotlight as they will most likely be sold? Who knows, up to them at end of the day, they are squad players at end of the day.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Apr 26, 2023 11:07:32 GMT 1
Any of the Burley squad would most likely be town or other champiuonship clubs first choice players so not that weak ehh
Town did the same v Birmingham in our promotion year and that game V Barnsley is still talked about today
They just need to get on with it now as in our hands and forgod sakes dont f--k it up
I wouldn’t mind a full squad of Kindon-esque players… 😉
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Apr 26, 2023 11:30:30 GMT 1
It was a mistake for Town not to appeal against, the deplorable decision, not to appeal against the shocking failure of Hawkeye goal line technology. EFL should have awarded Town a point, it was clear that the ball had crossed the line, common sense on the day by match officials, was totally lacking - UTT. What would have been the grounds for an appeal? It was a shitty bit of luck, in and amongst other shitty luck and crap performances. If it was the last minute of added time, and the Ref could have said it was the last kick of the game, then maybe there’s a precedent that wouldn’t have caused too much controversy (other than in Blackpool), but there was still plenty of time to play, therefore awarding a point would have been a very subjective decision. If it ultimately plays a part in relegating us, it will be a proper kick in the bits, but the only recourse might then be a civil case against Hawkeye themselves for consequential loss etc. Even then it would be incredibly churlish and something that wouldn’t sit right with me. There’s enough off the pitch stuff nowadays, without introducing litigious things into promotion & relegation outcomes. What should happen for me, is that they take this & the Blades incident and maybe decide that there’s an option for an on the spot review VAR style. Given the number of failures I suspect Hawkeye will say their technology is highly accurate anyway, so no need. If we get 2 crap decisions with 2 defining moments in consecutive seasons the only hope is that the authorities look at these things and improve things going forward, but we’re Huddersfield Town, not Man Utd, where such decisions are scrutinised to the nth degree. Anyway, UTT!!!
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Post by Tinpot on Apr 27, 2023 15:52:22 GMT 1
don't see the point, only team Burnley have left is cardiff on the last day, would have made more sense to wait till after sheffield utd to complain. Won't do us any good either in any way. They also have Blackburn away. Little cynic that I am, it has crossed my mind that they're going to win the title at Ewood Park and rub their rival's noses in it. Called it.
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Post by BLUE&WHITE on Apr 27, 2023 22:29:35 GMT 1
Been found to not have breached any rules. No fine.
That's nicely timed so that sheff utd know they can't catch them and also effectively gives them permission to rotate the squad also.
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