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Post by Detective Boyle on Jul 7, 2023 17:34:56 GMT 1
Heard Lees is out for a few months? I’d say that’s one position we’re well stocked on though.
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Post by bells ringing :) on Jul 7, 2023 17:38:09 GMT 1
Heard Lees is out for a few months? I’d say that’s one position we’re well stocked on though. I wouldn't be so sure, helik, pearson then who ? Boyle behave yourself, REG hasn't exactly shown he can do it at centre half. REG is more a def mid or right back for Warnock.
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Post by typical on Jul 7, 2023 17:38:15 GMT 1
Someone I know has said we’re interested in Keinan Davis on loan from Villa. Not sure how true that is, but would be a huge upgrade!
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Post by VLP Fan Club on Jul 7, 2023 17:39:56 GMT 1
Someone I know has said we’re interested in Keinan Davis on loan from Villa. Not sure how true that is, but would be a huge upgrade! I’d take him - was a real fucking handful for forest but suspect he’s out of budget as he’s on a whack.
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Post by bells ringing :) on Jul 7, 2023 17:40:33 GMT 1
Someone I know has said we’re interested in Keinan Davis on loan from Villa. Not sure how true that is, but would be a huge upgrade! Well he suits the typical Warnock cf type. Saying that so does Simpson, if he improves his fitness.
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Post by Headless Chicken on Jul 7, 2023 17:46:21 GMT 1
Can anyone whinging about the LOB and Toff transfer fees cite an offer or at least somewhat substantiated rumour of an other higher offer on the table?
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Post by harris on Jul 7, 2023 18:26:19 GMT 1
Someone I know has said we’re interested in Keinan Davis on loan from Villa. Not sure how true that is, but would be a huge upgrade! Be a great signing, but there’ll be 10-15 teams in this league wanting him ahead of us. So next to no chance I’d say
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Post by rockwall on Jul 7, 2023 18:34:16 GMT 1
Can anyone whinging about the LOB and Toff transfer fees cite an offer or at least somewhat substantiated rumour of an other higher offer on the table? Oh so just sell to the only and first bidder then? You do realise you can say 'no thank you' and reject an offer? Toff fair enough. But I genuinely think if we had held out with LOB we could and would have got more for him.
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Jul 7, 2023 18:37:13 GMT 1
Heard Lees is out for a few months? I’d say that’s one position we’re well stocked on though. I thought I hadn't seen him on the first day back training vid.
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Post by arry11 on Jul 7, 2023 18:41:47 GMT 1
Can anyone whinging about the LOB and Toff transfer fees cite an offer or at least somewhat substantiated rumour of an other higher offer on the table? Oh so just sell to the only and first bidder then? You do realise you can say 'no thank you' and reject an offer? Toff fair enough. But I genuinely think if we had held out with LOB we could and would have got more for him. If the guy wants' to leave and the club have there hands tied and the club may end up with sod all it was the best we could do and we held out for awhile. We were lucky he signed a new contract earlier.
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Post by Headless Chicken on Jul 7, 2023 18:43:11 GMT 1
Can anyone whinging about the LOB and Toff transfer fees cite an offer or at least somewhat substantiated rumour of an other higher offer on the table? Oh so just sell to the only and first bidder then? You do realise you can say 'no thank you' and reject an offer? Toff fair enough. But I genuinely think if we had held out with LOB we could and would have got more for him. No, and I'm also not saying I didn't find the fee on the low side, it's just some of you are simplifying it to a ridiculous degree. If the fee was that clearly out of sync I'm sure another PL club would've come in sharpish. PS - I know an agent and by coincidence he used to have LOB on his books! As much as he wouldn't divulge specifics, I've got an idea of what goes on.
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Post by royrace on Jul 7, 2023 18:50:53 GMT 1
Oh so just sell to the only and first bidder then? You do realise you can say 'no thank you' and reject an offer? Toff fair enough. But I genuinely think if we had held out with LOB we could and would have got more for him. If the guy wants' to leave and the club have there hands tied and the club may end up with sod all it was the best we could do and we held out for awhile. We were lucky he signed a new contract earlier. Club was desperate to cash in to balance the books as usual, same old story, and even after all that we still almost went into admin! There are many examples of champ clubs who don’t sell at the first whiff of any interest in their top players. You don’t have to sell and LOB wouldn’t have been the type to spit his dummy. Could have kept him and got 15 in jan or 20 this summer, who knows. When there’s only one club interested and they know you’re desperate to sell you end up taking a low offer. £10M for those two was daylight robbery! Toff now a PL LB. O’Brien unfortunate that his deal fell through last minute but prob still worth more than they paid.
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Post by royrace on Jul 7, 2023 18:51:53 GMT 1
Heard Lees is out for a few months? I’d say that’s one position we’re well stocked on though. I thought I hadn't seen him on the first day back training vid. That’s really bad news if true, he definitely won’t be smiling now
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Post by emleyterrier on Jul 7, 2023 18:55:02 GMT 1
Someone I know has said we’re interested in Keinan Davis on loan from Villa. Not sure how true that is, but would be a huge upgrade! Season he went to Forest on loan he was on 25k a week at Villa. No chance we can afford him unless Villa take part his wages and given he is quite a sort after player i don’t see Villa obliging. Only way we could get around it given EFL restrictions, and this also goes for any player is to offer a 1 or a 2 year loan for a player on reduced wages, while making it an obligation to buy the player at the end of the loan as the committed spending would not come under this season.
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Post by arroloui on Jul 7, 2023 18:56:13 GMT 1
I thought I hadn't seen him on the first day back training vid. That’s really bad news if true, he definitely won’t be smiling now can the Chinese lad play CB ?
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Post by crux on Jul 7, 2023 18:57:01 GMT 1
I thought I hadn't seen him on the first day back training vid. That’s really bad news if true, he definitely won’t be smiling now That may be one reason for re-signing Ruffels. Nakayama can play left side centre half with Helik and Pearson.
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Jul 7, 2023 19:16:32 GMT 1
That’s really bad news if true, he definitely won’t be smiling now That may be one reason for re-signing Ruffels. Nakayama can play left side centre half with Helik and Pearson. Yup, I wouldn't be surprised at all.
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Post by willo on Jul 7, 2023 19:27:19 GMT 1
Someone I know has said we’re interested in Keinan Davis on loan from Villa. Not sure how true that is, but would be a huge upgrade! Not a chance. We’re spending coppers this summer and he’ll be off to a club that are spending big boys money.
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Post by rockwall on Jul 7, 2023 19:30:08 GMT 1
Oh so just sell to the only and first bidder then? You do realise you can say 'no thank you' and reject an offer? Toff fair enough. But I genuinely think if we had held out with LOB we could and would have got more for him. If the guy wants' to leave and the club have there hands tied and the club may end up with sod all it was the best we could do and we held out for awhile. We were lucky he signed a new contract earlier. The first part is what really narks me. He was under contract until 2025 which he had signed. If he wants to leave earlier its tough. Club should have said, we will allow you to leave, but only at a price that benefits us. Not bow down to the team that cheated us a few weeks earlier.
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Post by Maynardblue on Jul 7, 2023 19:51:11 GMT 1
If the guy wants' to leave and the club have there hands tied and the club may end up with sod all it was the best we could do and we held out for awhile. We were lucky he signed a new contract earlier. The first part is what really narks me. He was under contract until 2025 which he had signed. If he wants to leave earlier its tough. Club should have said, we will allow you to leave, but only at a price that benefits us. Not bow down to the team that cheated us a few weeks earlier. That's pretty much what we did though, LOB had a release clause in his contract for £10m to make sure we got decent value were he to leave, unfortunately our bottle didn't hold and we needed the money.
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Post by bells ringing :) on Jul 7, 2023 20:03:58 GMT 1
The first part is what really narks me. He was under contract until 2025 which he had signed. If he wants to leave earlier its tough. Club should have said, we will allow you to leave, but only at a price that benefits us. Not bow down to the team that cheated us a few weeks earlier. That's pretty much what we did though, LOB had a release clause in his contract for £10m to make sure we got decent value were he to leave, unfortunately our bottle didn't hold and we needed the money. Anything looking on its way in Maynard?
On the LOB chat, i wish we had kept our nerve and got the money we deserved for him out of forrest. But it was clear as soon as the play off final ended, that the club was up for sale. It was just a matter of how quickly the deal could get done, with the ranglings behind the scnes not helping.
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Post by htfcfcfc on Jul 7, 2023 20:20:52 GMT 1
That's pretty much what we did though, LOB had a release clause in his contract for £10m to make sure we got decent value were he to leave, unfortunately our bottle didn't hold and we needed the money. Anything looking on its way in Maynard?
On the LOB chat, i wish we had kept our nerve and got the money we deserved for him out of forrest. But it was clear as soon as the play off final ended, that the club was up for sale. It was just a matter of how quickly the deal could get done, with the ranglings behind the scnes not helping.
Is he worth more than £10m though? He’s showed he’s not Premier League (yet). He was great for us and probably under appreciated but I just don’t see him being a regular PL starter and to be frank, the lack of demand for him pretty much demonstrates that
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Jul 7, 2023 21:26:18 GMT 1
Anything looking on its way in Maynard?
On the LOB chat, i wish we had kept our nerve and got the money we deserved for him out of forrest. But it was clear as soon as the play off final ended, that the club was up for sale. It was just a matter of how quickly the deal could get done, with the ranglings behind the scnes not helping.
Is he worth more than £10m though? He’s showed he’s not Premier League (yet). He was great for us and probably under appreciated but I just don’t see him being a regular PL starter and to be frank, the lack of demand for him pretty much demonstrates that We'll soon find out if he goes to Sheffield Utd. My bet is that he'll be a regular starter there. Remember that Notts Forest used a scatter-gun approach to bringing in players and spent millions on foreigners; I don't think that the Blunts will do that.
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Post by Tinpot on Jul 7, 2023 21:26:38 GMT 1
Heard Lees is out for a few months? I’d say that’s one position we’re well stocked on though. I wouldn't be so sure, helik, pearson then who ? Boyle behave yourself, REG hasn't exactly shown he can do it at centre half. REG is more a def mid or right back for Warnock. If Lees is only out for a few months then what's the issue? We have Helik, Pearson then.... * Nakayama * Boyle * REG * Hogg can drop into the centre of a 3 * Ayina reportedly improved enormously at Dundee Utd and was trusted in some big games for them. If you're worried about CB you must be shitting it about the rest of the positions on the field!
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Post by bells ringing :) on Jul 7, 2023 21:40:57 GMT 1
I wouldn't be so sure, helik, pearson then who ? Boyle behave yourself, REG hasn't exactly shown he can do it at centre half. REG is more a def mid or right back for Warnock. If Lees is only out for a few months then what's the issue? We have Helik, Pearson then.... * Nakayama * Boyle * REG * Hogg can drop into the centre of a 3 * Ayina reportedly improved enormously at Dundee Utd and was trusted in some big games for them. If you're worried about CB you must be shitting it about the rest of the positions on the field! Think the issue is, last season when one of our "main" centre half's was out, non of the guys stated stepped up enough. When pearon came back into the team we were what 7 points adrift at the botom of the league, with the above guys "covering".
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Post by htfcfcfc on Jul 7, 2023 21:51:30 GMT 1
Is he worth more than £10m though? He’s showed he’s not Premier League (yet). He was great for us and probably under appreciated but I just don’t see him being a regular PL starter and to be frank, the lack of demand for him pretty much demonstrates that We'll soon find out if he goes to Sheffield Utd. My bet is that he'll be a regular starter there. Remember that Notts Forest used a scatter-gun approach to bringing in players and spent millions on foreigners; I don't think that the Blunts will do that. You’re right. He’s more likely to play at Sheff but overall he’s just a solid buy for when they probably get relegated. Forest didn’t even consider him for their 25 man squad after Christmas. Don’t get me wrong. Id have him back in a heartbeat. Only in hindsight can we see how good he made Jon Russell look.
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Post by ebargum on Jul 7, 2023 21:54:01 GMT 1
If Lees is only out for a few months then what's the issue? We have Helik, Pearson then.... * Nakayama * Boyle * REG * Hogg can drop into the centre of a 3 * Ayina reportedly improved enormously at Dundee Utd and was trusted in some big games for them. If you're worried about CB you must be shitting it about the rest of the positions on the field! Think the issue is, last season when one of our "main" centre half's was out, non of the guys stated stepped up enough. When pearon came back into the team we were what 7 points adrift at the botom of the league, with the above guys "covering". Still panicking then...
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Post by Big Ern on Jul 7, 2023 21:59:11 GMT 1
We'll soon find out if he goes to Sheffield Utd. My bet is that he'll be a regular starter there. Remember that Notts Forest used a scatter-gun approach to bringing in players and spent millions on foreigners; I don't think that the Blunts will do that. You’re right. He’s more likely to play at Sheff but overall he’s just a solid buy for when they probably get relegated. Forest didn’t even consider him for their 25 man squad after Christmas. Don’t get me wrong. Id have him back in a heartbeat. Only in hindsight can we see how good he made Jon Russell look. God John Russel I forgot about him. Is he back?
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Post by Headless Chicken on Jul 7, 2023 22:20:41 GMT 1
Think the issue is, last season when one of our "main" centre half's was out, non of the guys stated stepped up enough. When pearon came back into the team we were what 7 points adrift at the botom of the league, with the above guys "covering". Still panicking then... The 'above guys covering'....one of which was injured, one of which was on loan at Dundee Utd...... PANIC!
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Post by bells ringing :) on Jul 7, 2023 22:43:24 GMT 1
The 'above guys covering'....one of which was injured, one of which was on loan at Dundee Utd...... PANIC! Nakayama played some games at centre half, prior to injury and didn't exactly stand out.
No lets not disscuss the fact that, to do date we haven't strengthened in key areas. I mean last season we almost went down. The blind thought of it doesn't matter what squad Warnock has or is given, fuck it it's be rite he will keep us up. Is in my opinnion a very dangrous game, he earned the right to be back last year. 1-2 signings and we will be OK is a very dangrous game.
Warnock is good yes , in fact very good. The problem is that he be expected, to repeat last season's break neck finish thorughout the season? or even get close to it again ?
Its not a panick at all , i remember myself included who thought and and rightly so, that this squad is not good enough. I still believe it needs a big shake up to be anything better than a bottom 6/7 team.
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