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Post by Porrohman on Jul 17, 2023 19:23:38 GMT 1
🚨BREAKING: David Moyes is having a medical at West Ham after expressing an interest to sign Harry Maguire.
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Post by Headless Chicken on Jul 17, 2023 19:46:50 GMT 1
So reading the Examiner, the players left at home (who weren’t injured - which includes Rhodes apparently) were High, Mahoney, Rowe, Phillips, and Chapman. We all kinda guessed these lads were available but Rowe and Chapman surprise me a bit. I’d assumed Chapman at least was considered a prospect? Clear those five off and Rhodes too, the squad does look slim. Mind you, deadwood is deadwood and needs cutting away. Rowe been around a few years and not made much impact at all (he had a few good games) so many best if he moves on He looked like he was going to make it, but he looks well out of the picture now, especially considering his loans too.
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Post by dalesterrier on Jul 17, 2023 20:43:40 GMT 1
Twitter rumours of Austerfield to Tranmere on loan And Derby leading the race for Rhodes
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Post by saintlyterrier on Jul 17, 2023 20:58:05 GMT 1
Twitter rumours of Austerfield to Tranmere on loan And Derby leading the race for Rhodes At last! A post related to the title of the thread. Thank you.
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Post by bells ringing :) on Jul 17, 2023 21:00:00 GMT 1
Twitter rumours of Austerfield to Tranmere on loan And Derby leading the race for Rhodes Good moves for both to be fair.
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Post by calken on Jul 17, 2023 22:03:14 GMT 1
Twitter rumours of Austerfield to Tranmere on loan And Derby leading the race for Rhodes At last! A post related to the title of the thread. Thank you. Ade Edmondson: “F**kin’ hell; a line from the play!” Bottom Live
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Post by inapickle on Jul 18, 2023 0:18:25 GMT 1
So this short list of forwards MC has put together....who do we think might be on it!? A possible few might be Benik Afobe(As a Free agent) and Britt Asombalonga. Any other ideas? ...its something to ponder till we do get some news!!
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Post by RickDangerous on Jul 18, 2023 6:48:46 GMT 1
So this short list of forwards MC has put together....who do we think might be on it!? A possible few might be Benik Afobe(As a Free agent) and Britt Asombalonga. Any other ideas? ...its something to ponder till we do get some news!! I think it's most likely going to be Britt Assombalonga. Warnock played him alot at boro. Conor Wickham fits the bill too maybe. Both okay age wise but fitness worries having had serious injuries.
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Post by uw2ba on Jul 18, 2023 6:58:33 GMT 1
Could it be Billy sharp? He's a free agent and a Warnockesque player who knows the league inside and out
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Post by cowshed1992 on Jul 18, 2023 7:30:06 GMT 1
A bit like you're obsession with having a dig at the new owners. My ‘obsession’ is with us having a competitive team at the start of the season. I’m not as easily won over by the PR as most of our fan base appear to be. Less than a month to go and nothing but a pointless trip to play pub teams on Warnock’s doorstep. How many more sales do we have to complete before we can afford Junior Hoilett’s wages?
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Post by drumriggend on Jul 18, 2023 8:40:40 GMT 1
Could it be Billy sharp? He's a free agent and a Warnockesque player who knows the league inside and out Could do a job.. 🍻🍻
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Post by rockwall on Jul 18, 2023 8:40:51 GMT 1
A bit like you're obsession with having a dig at the new owners. My ‘obsession’ is with us having a competitive team at the start of the season. I’m not as easily won over by the PR as most of our fan base appear to be. Less than a month to go and nothing but a pointless trip to play pub teams on Warnock’s doorstep. How many more sales do we have to complete before we can afford Junior Hoilett’s wages? As many have stated. The new owner cannot do anything about this seasons budget. Read up on numerous threads regarding FFP. What bit of that don't you understand? How was the trip pointless? Whether you are on Blackpool beach or a Sandals resort, team bonding wouldn't be any different. The friendlies are more about fitness, heavy training sessions in the morning and a game in the evening. Building partnerships. Working on shapes. There has never been a correlation in teams you play against in friendlies Vs how successful your season is. You just need to chill out with the Nagel bashing. And get it between them ears of yours that this season, he cannot change the budget. He can however, invest elsewhere in the club such as facilities.
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Post by cowshed1992 on Jul 18, 2023 8:50:17 GMT 1
My ‘obsession’ is with us having a competitive team at the start of the season. I’m not as easily won over by the PR as most of our fan base appear to be. Less than a month to go and nothing but a pointless trip to play pub teams on Warnock’s doorstep. How many more sales do we have to complete before we can afford Junior Hoilett’s wages? As many have stated. The new owner cannot do anything about this seasons budget. Read up on numerous threads regarding FFP. What bit of that don't you understand? How was the trip pointless? Whether you are on Blackpool beach or a Sandals resort, team bonding wouldn't be any different. The friendlies are more about fitness, heavy training sessions in the morning and a game in the evening. Building partnerships. Working on shapes. There has never been a correlation in teams you play against in friendlies Vs how successful your season is. You just need to chill out with the Nagel bashing. And get it between them ears of yours that this season, he cannot change the budget. He can however, invest elsewhere in the club such as facilities. No supporters of any other Championship club would accept that. Is that it then? No budget this year move on. Would you have accepted that from statement from any of our previous owners. Of course not.
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Post by runner76 on Jul 18, 2023 8:53:46 GMT 1
Pretty sure there will be at least one, likely two signings, and likely a loan or two....which based on current squad, and the magic touch of Neil and with some players coming back (which is kind of like 2 or 3 new signings anyway...) we will have a squad that can survive the league next season........will we compete at the top? No! But have faith.....UTT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2023 9:11:21 GMT 1
As many have stated. The new owner cannot do anything about this seasons budget. Read up on numerous threads regarding FFP. What bit of that don't you understand? How was the trip pointless? Whether you are on Blackpool beach or a Sandals resort, team bonding wouldn't be any different. The friendlies are more about fitness, heavy training sessions in the morning and a game in the evening. Building partnerships. Working on shapes. There has never been a correlation in teams you play against in friendlies Vs how successful your season is. You just need to chill out with the Nagel bashing. And get it between them ears of yours that this season, he cannot change the budget. He can however, invest elsewhere in the club such as facilities. No supporters of any other Championship club would accept that. Is that it then? No budget this year move on. Would you have accepted that from statement from any of our previous owners. Of course not. It's understandable that you might be concerned about the standard of the squad and our lack of signings. Personally I'm not panicking, but can understand why others might be. However, people are getting frustrated at the number of times you've made the same point. The club isn't going to change their strategy in this window, so you can either keep repeating yourself or consider your opinion 'on the record' and we can all wait and see whether you were right. You now seem to be doubling down with negativity for the sake of negativity. Possibly because of the reaction that your posts have been getting. A pre-season trip that has worked numerous times for the manager isn't pointless, Junior Hoilett has already been dismissed as a rumour and there hasn't been any statement that there is no budget. It's starting to come across as contrived to get a reaction, rather than your genuine opinion.
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Post by Wingman on Jul 18, 2023 9:15:35 GMT 1
As many have stated. The new owner cannot do anything about this seasons budget. Read up on numerous threads regarding FFP. What bit of that don't you understand? How was the trip pointless? Whether you are on Blackpool beach or a Sandals resort, team bonding wouldn't be any different. The friendlies are more about fitness, heavy training sessions in the morning and a game in the evening. Building partnerships. Working on shapes. There has never been a correlation in teams you play against in friendlies Vs how successful your season is. You just need to chill out with the Nagel bashing. And get it between them ears of yours that this season, he cannot change the budget. He can however, invest elsewhere in the club such as facilities. No supporters of any other Championship club would accept that. Is that it then? No budget this year move on. Would you have accepted that from statement from any of our previous owners. Of course not. Funnily enough we have lived through that for the last three years. Have you been living under a rock?
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Post by Tinpot on Jul 18, 2023 9:29:22 GMT 1
Twitter rumours of Austerfield to Tranmere on loan And Derby leading the race for Rhodes Decent moves for both if true.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jul 18, 2023 9:29:32 GMT 1
Warnock playing the patient game.
"Steven has got some good players and I can see him signing one or two as well. We are probably a little bit behind them at the moment because we have not signed anybody, but sometimes you have got to be patient to get the ones that you want."
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Post by Porrohman on Jul 18, 2023 9:29:32 GMT 1
No supporters of any other Championship club would accept that. Is that it then? No budget this year move on. Would you have accepted that from statement from any of our previous owners. Of course not. Funnily enough we have lived through that for the last three years. Have you been living under a rock? Or in a Skip 🤔😉
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Post by Tinpot on Jul 18, 2023 10:04:24 GMT 1
As many have stated. The new owner cannot do anything about this seasons budget. Read up on numerous threads regarding FFP. What bit of that don't you understand? How was the trip pointless? Whether you are on Blackpool beach or a Sandals resort, team bonding wouldn't be any different. The friendlies are more about fitness, heavy training sessions in the morning and a game in the evening. Building partnerships. Working on shapes. There has never been a correlation in teams you play against in friendlies Vs how successful your season is. You just need to chill out with the Nagel bashing. And get it between them ears of yours that this season, he cannot change the budget. He can however, invest elsewhere in the club such as facilities. No supporters of any other Championship club would accept that. Is that it then? No budget this year move on. Would you have accepted that from statement from any of our previous owners. Of course not. Given the EFL regulations restricting our spending (which you know about!), what would you have the current owners do?
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Post by Tinpot on Jul 18, 2023 10:13:44 GMT 1
Warnock playing the patient game. "Steven has got some good players and I can see him signing one or two as well. We are probably a little bit behind them at the moment because we have not signed anybody, but sometimes you have got to be patient to get the ones that you want." Under previous managers and head coaches I would have been more concerned about leaving our business until late. Carlos's methods were a bit more complex than most so players would have needed time to bed in before they were all on the same page. Warnock's way is simpler. Man management expert rather than a coaching or tactical whiz. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see him sign somebody on a Friday morning and they'd be in the starting lineup the following day. Also, for all that I think the squad needs strengthening for the season, it doesn't necessarily have to be done for day 1. We could put out a competitive first XI plus bench for the opening fixture without signing anyone. Tiny budget isn't helping though.
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Post by seasonticket on Jul 18, 2023 10:16:08 GMT 1
As many have stated. The new owner cannot do anything about this seasons budget. Read up on numerous threads regarding FFP. What bit of that don't you understand? How was the trip pointless? Whether you are on Blackpool beach or a Sandals resort, team bonding wouldn't be any different. The friendlies are more about fitness, heavy training sessions in the morning and a game in the evening. Building partnerships. Working on shapes. There has never been a correlation in teams you play against in friendlies Vs how successful your season is. You just need to chill out with the Nagel bashing. And get it between them ears of yours that this season, he cannot change the budget. He can however, invest elsewhere in the club such as facilities. No supporters of any other Championship club would accept that. Is that it then? No budget this year move on. Would you have accepted that from statement from any of our previous owners. Of course not. Maybe you should ask Wigan and Reading fans about how they feel about their points deductions....
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jul 18, 2023 10:17:08 GMT 1
No supporters of any other Championship club would accept that. Is that it then? No budget this year move on. Would you have accepted that from statement from any of our previous owners. Of course not. Given the EFL regulations restricting our spending (which you know about!), what would you have the current owners do? Id wait and see. We will have to recruit but it may be that we have to wait for availability of the player to be confirmed etc. We are highly unlikely to be banging down doors with offers that cannot be refused. Money probably isnt the option, clever recruitment to an agreed plan of action between the manager and the recruiters has to work for us. Im sure we are far from alone in this approach?
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Post by willo on Jul 18, 2023 10:17:34 GMT 1
Just seen on Twitter an article touting a player about. What about Danny Drinkwater? Fits the bill as an ex player… Granted he’s had a terrible past few years due form and mainly attitude it appears. But it seems he is desperate to turn it around and get back into football. Obviously he’d expect way too much in wages for us but surely Warnock could be a good manager to have for him and this could be a selling point. Sign a 1 year deal, let Neil manage you and get you in a position for a better contract elsewhere. No doubt he has the talent just needs to get his attitude sorted He was way past it when on loan at Reading in our play off season. Thought he’d retired tbh.
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Post by willo on Jul 18, 2023 10:19:18 GMT 1
Given the EFL regulations restricting our spending (which you know about!), what would you have the current owners do? Id wait and see. We will have to recruit but it may be that we have to wait for availability of the player to be confirmed etc. We are highly unlikely to be banging down doors with offers that cannot be refused. Money probably isnt the option, clever recruitment to an agreed plan of action between the manager and the recruiters has to work for us. Im sure we are far from alone in this approach? Too early to be jumping up and down about our transfer policy. Plenty of time to go, let’s chill and see where we are in a month’s time. Not much activity going on elsewhere in the main.
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Post by goodbet on Jul 18, 2023 10:29:08 GMT 1
Let's just hope that Town have a spare fax machine on standby.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jul 18, 2023 10:30:45 GMT 1
Id wait and see. We will have to recruit but it may be that we have to wait for availability of the player to be confirmed etc. We are highly unlikely to be banging down doors with offers that cannot be refused. Money probably isnt the option, clever recruitment to an agreed plan of action between the manager and the recruiters has to work for us. Im sure we are far from alone in this approach? Too early to be jumping up and down about our transfer policy. Plenty of time to go, let’s chill and see where we are in a month’s time. Not much activity going on elsewhere in the main. Always hope we can bring in 2 or 3 that the manager knows and wants that are fairly unknown to most of the supporters. Schindler, Heff, lowe spring to mind. Id never heard of Mooy before we got him. If we have eleven starting the first game who are happy to be here, happy with the boss and the set up and will give it 100%, then we may be better off than we have been lately.?
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Post by rockwall on Jul 18, 2023 10:52:56 GMT 1
As many have stated. The new owner cannot do anything about this seasons budget. Read up on numerous threads regarding FFP. What bit of that don't you understand? How was the trip pointless? Whether you are on Blackpool beach or a Sandals resort, team bonding wouldn't be any different. The friendlies are more about fitness, heavy training sessions in the morning and a game in the evening. Building partnerships. Working on shapes. There has never been a correlation in teams you play against in friendlies Vs how successful your season is. You just need to chill out with the Nagel bashing. And get it between them ears of yours that this season, he cannot change the budget. He can however, invest elsewhere in the club such as facilities. No supporters of any other Championship club would accept that. Is that it then? No budget this year move on. Would you have accepted that from statement from any of our previous owners. Of course not. Our previous owners set the budgets ffs. Nagel hasn't not and can't set or change the budget for this season. If he had, then it would be different and you would have a valid point. Hoyle had to set the budgets sensibly incase a takeover didn't go through and we were relying on him covering costs until someone took control. I am sure other clubs supporters such as Portsmouth, Bolton, Reading, Wigan are all wishing they had people using common sense. Or let's go down your route and spend millions on Diakhaby, Pritchard, Sobhi et al. That worked didn't it?
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Post by prepare on Jul 18, 2023 10:58:32 GMT 1
My ‘obsession’ is with us having a competitive team at the start of the season. I’m not as easily won over by the PR as most of our fan base appear to be. Less than a month to go and nothing but a pointless trip to play pub teams on Warnock’s doorstep. How many more sales do we have to complete before we can afford Junior Hoilett’s wages? As many have stated. The new owner cannot do anything about this seasons budget. Read up on numerous threads regarding FFP. What bit of that don't you understand? How was the trip pointless? Whether you are on Blackpool beach or a Sandals resort, team bonding wouldn't be any different. The friendlies are more about fitness, heavy training sessions in the morning and a game in the 😀 Building partnerships. Working on shapes. There has never been a correlation in teams you play against in friendlies Vs how successful your season is. You just need to chill out with the Nagel bashing. And get it between them ears of yours that this season, he cannot change the budget. He can however, invest elsewhere in the club such as facilities. correct but some like cowshed need locking in one!!
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Post by pilks123 on Jul 18, 2023 11:05:12 GMT 1
No supporters of any other Championship club would accept that. Is that it then? No budget this year move on. Would you have accepted that from statement from any of our previous owners. Of course not. Our previous owners set the budgets ffs. Nagel hasn't not and can't set or change the budget for this season. If he had, then it would be different and you would have a valid point. Hoyle had to set the budgets sensibly incase a takeover didn't go through and we were relying on him covering costs until someone took control. I am sure other clubs supporters such as Portsmouth, Bolton, Reading, Wigan are all wishing they had people using common sense. Or let's go down your route and spend millions on Diakhaby, Pritchard, Sobhi et al. That worked didn't it? Nobody is asking for the club to spaf millions on star players, just to replace the near 15 players that have left with "something". (5/6 players with first team minutes released - aarons, critch, kamberi, daly, schofield, vaclik). Another 6 loanees (Anjorin, Knockaert, Waghorn, Hungbo, Lawton, Smith). 3 more supposedly sold in Holmes, Camara, Doyle. And that's before any more go, expect to see the likes of Rhodes to also move on. I have faith they'll complete at least a few signings, but you can see why people including myself are starting to get nervous when almost every other club (bar leeds/west brom) have made at least some progress in player recruitment. I can't make my mind up whether it's being savvy and waiting for the right players to become available, or town just being tight and offering peanuts.
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