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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Jul 21, 2023 19:05:09 GMT 1
Another £500 off the wage bill 🤣🤣🎣🎣 That £10 million loss will be taken care of in no time. |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jul 21, 2023 19:11:00 GMT 1
We've still got two talented young keepers on the books in Chapman and Bellagambi, the latter is a full international.
Bilo needs games and has the opportunity to get that at Peterborough. He'll struggle to get that over the next few years here with Nicholls and Maxwell as senior, experienced, solid keepers.
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Post by twyford on Jul 21, 2023 19:50:55 GMT 1
Doesn't surprise me in the slightest that Warnock would prefer the proven experience of Maxwell over the potential of Bilokapic. Warnock gets his results through playing the percentage game and Maxwell is the much lower risk option of the two.
There are other options for the third choice so moving Bilokapic on also makes sense. Peterborough would appear to have been adamant that it had to be a permanent move so they would seem to see value in that potential (where they have a good track record).
As long as we have protected ourselves with an appropriate sell on clause then it strikes me as good business all round.
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Post by Tinpot on Jul 21, 2023 20:44:01 GMT 1
NW on Maxwell signing “We’ve got a great ‘keeper in Lee as well, and Chris’ arrival strengthens that department.” Spent all summer looking for a striker and options going forward...... and the first signing is a back-up keeper. Only at Huddersfield Town. No. At pretty much every club in the country. A striker may be priority but if you can get another deal over the line earlier you take the opportunity when it comes. Otherwise you miss out. |
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Post by bells ringing :) on Jul 21, 2023 20:45:57 GMT 1
Spent all summer looking for a striker and options going forward...... and the first signing is a back-up keeper. Only at Huddersfield Town. No. At pretty much every club in the country. A striker may be priority but if you can get another deal over the line earlier you take the opportunity when it comes. Otherwise you miss out. look at united , spent all summer looking for a cf signed a goalkeeper and a cm - two positions you would say they weren't needing as much. things happen when they do, cfs are the most in demand, therefore normally take longer. |
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Post by Gold Coast Terrier on Jul 21, 2023 22:55:44 GMT 1
The disappointment aside, at least we’re actually making some cash out of our academy’s players rather than just nursing them onto other clubs. That’s the model. He’s talented, but he doesn’t have a pathway at the moment as long as we can keep our resolve and keep Nicholls. We have two more internationals to take his place in which we have reviewed and place our trust. Problem is the model doesn’t work if you cap your winners. For all the Camara’s there’s a hundred that don’t make it that we’ve had to invest in up until that poInt. We need to be able to let these successful ones pay for the rolling investment in the academy. The clanger is not spotting Camara’s potential and locking him down earlier. When it comes to Bilo it’s probably a different situation, let’s hope we see more potential further down the pecking order. |
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Post by yorkshiretripod on Jul 21, 2023 23:01:36 GMT 1
NW knows what he is doing striker and attacking midfielder to be announced on what I’m hearing 🥰 I am the ultimate doubting Thomas. May we have evidence for your claim please? Well, he doesn't seem to contribute from open play, set pieces are all well and good, but maybe Warnock will get more from him. Oh, hold on a minute, I see where I've gone wrong. |
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Post by saintlyterrier on Jul 21, 2023 23:41:13 GMT 1
I am the ultimate doubting Thomas. May we have evidence for your claim please? Well, he doesn't seem to contribute from open play, set pieces are all well and good, but maybe Warnock will get more from him. Oh, hold on a minute, I see where I've gone wrong. Ah! I see what you've done there. Fair enough: I have doubt in Thomas as well as being a doubting Thomas. (I really must avoid these biblical references.) |
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Post by Tiro on Jul 22, 2023 0:26:54 GMT 1
The disappointment aside, at least we’re actually making some cash out of our academy’s players rather than just nursing them onto other clubs. That’s the model. He’s talented, but he doesn’t have a pathway at the moment as long as we can keep our resolve and keep Nicholls. We have two more internationals to take his place in which we have reviewed and place our trust. Problem is the model doesn’t work if you cap your winners. For all the Camara’s there’s a hundred that don’t make it that we’ve had to invest in up until that poInt. We need to be able to let these successful ones pay for the rolling investment in the academy. The clanger is not spotting Camara’s potential and locking him down earlier. When it comes to Bilo it’s probably a different situation, let’s hope we see more potential further down the pecking order. Que? We’ve made cash ok Camara. And you’d have to go back and 10 years to find 100 we’ve lost out on. Where do you draw the line? I draw it when we dropped the Academy in favour of U18s upwards. And we’re starting to see value. They whole reason we dropped the usual concept was because we were losing hand over fist before they even made the ‘reserves’. |
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Post by keefer on Jul 22, 2023 1:41:57 GMT 1
Problem is the model doesn’t work if you cap your winners. For all the Camara’s there’s a hundred that don’t make it that we’ve had to invest in up until that poInt. We need to be able to let these successful ones pay for the rolling investment in the academy. The clanger is not spotting Camara’s potential and locking him down earlier. When it comes to Bilo it’s probably a different situation, let’s hope we see more potential further down the pecking order. Que? We’ve made cash ok Camara. And you’d have to go back and 10 years to find 100 we’ve lost out on. Where do you draw the line? I draw it when we dropped the Academy in favour of U18s upwards. And we’re starting to see value. They whole reason we dropped the usual concept was because we were losing hand over fist before they even made the ‘reserves’. Could anyone please interpret that into English for me |
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Post by durhamterrier on Jul 22, 2023 7:27:01 GMT 1
The disappointment aside, at least we’re actually making some cash out of our academy’s players rather than just nursing them onto other clubs. That’s the model. He’s talented, but he doesn’t have a pathway at the moment as long as we can keep our resolve and keep Nicholls. We have two more internationals to take his place in which we have reviewed and place our trust. Problem is the model doesn’t work if you cap your winners. For all the Camara’s there’s a hundred that don’t make it that we’ve had to invest in up until that poInt. We need to be able to let these successful ones pay for the rolling investment in the academy. The clanger is not spotting Camara’s potential and locking him down earlier. When it comes to Bilo it’s probably a different situation, let’s hope we see more potential further down the pecking order. Whilst I agree with the Camara sentiment, find me an academy that has a strike rate of anything above 10% (volume not value) for selling their players on or getting a return on investment ? There’s probably Chelsea , Man U, Man C and Liverpool that do it. It’s the nature of the academy system . Each age bracket need 18ish players and they progress into our main academy and b team . That’s about 40 players we have to deal that all need to oust more experienced players aged between 18/19 and 35 . |
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Post by Kenny irons on Jul 22, 2023 7:30:15 GMT 1
Good bit of business for the club in my view.
Bilo was never going to take Nicholls place Aslong as he was here. We have 2 very good young keepers coming through and brought in an experienced keeper as back up to Nicholls and to help nurture the youngsters coming through.
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Post by Gold Coast Terrier on Jul 22, 2023 7:33:39 GMT 1
Problem is the model doesn’t work if you cap your winners. For all the Camara’s there’s a hundred that don’t make it that we’ve had to invest in up until that poInt. We need to be able to let these successful ones pay for the rolling investment in the academy. The clanger is not spotting Camara’s potential and locking him down earlier. When it comes to Bilo it’s probably a different situation, let’s hope we see more potential further down the pecking order. Whilst I agree with the Camara sentiment, find me an academy that has a strike rate of anything above 10% (volume not value) for selling their players on or getting a return on investment ? There’s probably Chelsea , Man U, Man C and Liverpool that do it. It’s the nature of the academy system . Each age bracket need 18ish players and they progress into our main academy and b team . That’s about 40 players we have to deal that all need to oust more experienced players aged between 18/19 and 35 . I completely agree, the strike rate is to be expected. Which is why we need to make it count when one does make it through, like Camara. |
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Jul 22, 2023 7:40:46 GMT 1
The disappointment aside, at least we’re actually making some cash out of our academy’s players rather than just nursing them onto other clubs. That’s the model. He’s talented, but he doesn’t have a pathway at the moment as long as we can keep our resolve and keep Nicholls. We have two more internationals to take his place in which we have reviewed and place our trust. Problem is the model doesn’t work if you cap your winners. For all the Camara’s there’s a hundred that don’t make it that we’ve had to invest in up until that poInt. We need to be able to let these successful ones pay for the rolling investment in the academy. The clanger is not spotting Camara’s potential and locking him down earlier. When it comes to Bilo it’s probably a different situation, let’s hope we see more potential further down the pecking order. Seems as though Camara got an agent that was always going to move him on as soon as he could. Maybe if we hadn’t been a basket case post relegation he might have stayed, but I doubt it. Can’t repeat the mistake with Diarra. |
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Jul 22, 2023 7:44:01 GMT 1
Whilst I agree with the Camara sentiment, find me an academy that has a strike rate of anything above 10% (volume not value) for selling their players on or getting a return on investment ? There’s probably Chelsea , Man U, Man C and Liverpool that do it. It’s the nature of the academy system . Each age bracket need 18ish players and they progress into our main academy and b team . That’s about 40 players we have to deal that all need to oust more experienced players aged between 18/19 and 35 . I completely agree, the strike rate is to be expected. Which is why we need to make it count when one does make it through, like Camara. It's a shame that Camara and Bilo left - I think both will have good careers. Crichlow is another in that bracket as well I do think that we still have the best two from that intake in Jones (who was Academy player of the year in the class with Camara and Bilo) as well as Diarra. I think Ayina will have a good career The role of the academy is to produce players good enough for the first team; REG. Headley, Jackson, Diarra, Jones and Harratt I think all will be in or around the first 16 all season. |
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Post by Tinpot on Jul 22, 2023 8:05:33 GMT 1
Good bit of business for the club in my view. Bilo was never going to take Nicholls place Aslong as he was here. We have 2 very good young keepers coming through and brought in an experienced keeper as back up to Nicholls and to help nurture the youngsters coming through. Surely, whether it's good business depends upon the deal we've got. I can't see Posh paying much up front. If it's based on appearances then any amount that makes it worth our while would put Posh out of the running. A decent sell on clause &/or buy-back clause though may well prove very good for us though and affordable for all parties. Labelling this as either a good or bad deal without knowing what the deal actually was seems strange to me. |
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Post by htfcfcfc on Jul 22, 2023 8:09:44 GMT 1
Yeah. Decent sell on and an option to buy back would probably make this a good deal.
Nice to finally have a more established reserve finally after years of inadequacy on the bench
Bilo did pretty well to be fair but prior to him ..🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈
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Post by dalesterrier on Jul 22, 2023 8:59:01 GMT 1
Third time lucky?!
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Post by terriers2000 on Jul 22, 2023 9:41:28 GMT 1
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Jul 22, 2023 10:43:49 GMT 1
If Tino can stay fit he would absolutely destroy league one
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Post by alexdire on Jul 22, 2023 11:00:05 GMT 1
Good bit of business for the club in my view. Bilo was never going to take Nicholls place Aslong as he was here. We have 2 very good young keepers coming through and brought in an experienced keeper as back up to Nicholls and to help nurture the youngsters coming through. Bottom line Bilo needs to playing as much first team football as he can at this stage. Otherwise his career will pass him by. It sounds as though Bilo asked for the move. |
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Post by htfcfcfc on Jul 22, 2023 11:18:32 GMT 1
If Tino can stay fit he would absolutely destroy league one Agree. If you could guarantee 40+ games from him I’d snap him up. Sadly I doubt we could guarantee 4 |
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Post by Tinpot on Jul 22, 2023 12:04:57 GMT 1
If Tino can stay fit he would absolutely destroy league one If Tino can stay fit he would absolutely destroy the championship tbf |
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Post by wildhogg on Jul 22, 2023 12:08:55 GMT 1
Tino has two states - barely fit and unfit. Great talent and great to watch, but even when he was in the side (either as a sub or a starter) he was blowing out of his arse after an alarmingly short period of time. He's young, but it looks like his body is always going to let him down.
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Post by bells ringing :) on Jul 22, 2023 12:11:35 GMT 1
Tino has two states - barely fit and unfit. Great talent and great to watch, but even when he was in the side (either as a sub or a starter) he was blowing out of his arse after an alarmingly short period of time. He's young, but it looks like his body is always going to let him down. I was going to say that, also when he first arrived under CC.I understand he had, had a foot injury, but he was wayyyy over weight. Very talented footballer, but the word IF will probs follow him around in his career. |
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Post by arroloui on Jul 22, 2023 12:12:29 GMT 1
Morning everyone
Can anyone tell me if we have signed anyone yet ?
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Post by bells ringing :) on Jul 22, 2023 12:13:30 GMT 1
Morning everyone Can anyone tell me if we have signed anyone yet ? Goalkeeper , but we are still waiting for anything we need . |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jul 22, 2023 12:25:06 GMT 1
Morning everyone Can anyone tell me if we have signed anyone yet ? Have you just got up? It's the afternoon btw. |
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Jul 22, 2023 12:39:14 GMT 1
Morning everyone Can anyone tell me if we have signed anyone yet ? Cheque the confirmed signings thread  |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Jul 22, 2023 12:45:19 GMT 1
Morning everyone Can anyone tell me if we have signed anyone yet ? 3 signings expected to be announced early next week. A striker, attacking midfielder and right back |
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